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  • Remote reading is more complicated than flipping a switch

    Posted by Unknown Member on September 14, 2020 at 10:15 am

    Teleradiology – 
    Our volume has come back to normal – between 40-60% of cases are being interpreted via teleradiology. We fulfill all the requirements of monitors, etc with workstations, glow etc 
    BUT 
    the most involved and which works out the best is tele-Mammography. We are doing both screens and diagnostics via tele-mammography.
    All equipment and mammographers fulfill MQSA – but with diags – we are in constant contact with the technologists and in the case of a biopsy recommendation: the patients are talked to directly after the diagnostic dtusy as well as the referring physician. Workflow is quite fluid and evrything works quite well. 
    Teleradiology and TeleMammography is here, well run and works quite efficiently.

    mpezeshkirad_710 replied 3 years, 8 months ago 9 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Unknown Member

    Deleted User
    September 14, 2020 at 10:45 am

    That’s too bad.
     
    I thought mammo was going to be like fluoro and IR, i.e. could not be easily displaced by telerad. At least they still need one person to do the wire locs and biopsies.

    • g.giancaspro_108

      Member
      September 14, 2020 at 10:47 am

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      • ruszja

        Member
        September 14, 2020 at 11:26 am

        You dont need MQSA to do a wire-loc. Just train a PA 😉

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          September 14, 2020 at 12:25 pm

          Et tu, Brutus?
           
          There are people saying the same about reading CXRs and noncon heads. And we want to open that door for what, so there is some more breast work for teleradiologists to do remotely ?  Give it up a little here and a little there for a little convenience, and we will eventually find ourselves with neither work nor convenience. 

          • cytek1

            Member
            September 14, 2020 at 3:17 pm

            Talking to your patients through a screen? I bet they enjoy that a lot.

            • Unknown Member

              Deleted User
              September 15, 2020 at 8:28 am

              No, I’m talking about diagnostics as per OP and training PAs to do breast procedures, as in the post above. 

            • seb_arrosa_904

              Member
              September 15, 2020 at 10:04 am

              great point, teleradiology is like junk food  and is becoming fast food medicine. Trying to short cut may work with normal reads but sooner or later will compromise patient care and its surprising that malpractice lawyers have not picked up on this gold mine.  There is no short cut when you need to talk to the patient and the clinician in person. Just like virtual sex, its not the same as real sex,  is it.

              • leann2001nl

                Member
                September 15, 2020 at 10:28 am

                How do you do a diagnostic virtually

                That sounds horrific

                The computer told me I had cancer

                • seb_arrosa_904

                  Member
                  September 15, 2020 at 10:38 am

                  exactly my point, virtual garbage

          • ruszja

            Member
            September 15, 2020 at 12:43 pm

            Quote from Flounce

            Et tu, Brutus?

             
            Its a joke, sarcasm. Even put the little smiley after it.
             
            90% of my mammo practice could be done via tele. Stereos and ultrasound biopsies can be lined up for a half day in the hospital. Locs can be done by the IR. The only thing I ever loc these days is the marker from the biopsy that diagnosed the patients cancer.

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              September 15, 2020 at 4:57 pm

              Is there now 2 definitions for teleradiology. In house teleradiology and shipping the work to another party? If its in house Id be curious to know what kind setup is being used successfully for mammo. Especially diagnostic which need real-time attention. We have lots of people who can sit at home buts its a tangled web and theres not much view into a lot of it like various internet service providers.

              • Nieves1953

                Member
                September 19, 2020 at 10:24 pm

                I’ve been reading mammography and all modalities from home for 8 years. A used Dell T5500 workstation for a few hundred dollars, a used Barco 30 inch 10 MP monitor for around $7 grand and a $500 8 GB video card. 25-50 mbs internet speed and a large hard drive for tomography caching. There is a team of traveling physicists that certify the local hospitals who come by once a year for a couple hundred bucks and download the QC data generated by Barco software. I have recently looked at mammos on a $500 4K TV and I can’t tell the difference, but it isn’t legal.  I travel to the hospital 1-2 days a work week for locs and biopsies. Diagnostics by phone consult in real time. It allows tiny rural hospitals to provide mammo services without in house coverage. 

                • ruszja

                  Member
                  September 20, 2020 at 4:06 am

                  Heresy !!

                • mpezeshkirad_710

                  Member
                  September 20, 2020 at 8:12 pm

                  Quote from Haltmadness

                  I’ve been reading mammography and all modalities from home for 8 years. A used Dell T5500 workstation for a few hundred dollars, a used Barco 30 inch 10 MP monitor for around $7 grand and a $500 8 GB video card. 25-50 mbs internet speed and a large hard drive for tomography caching. There is a team of traveling physicists that certify the local hospitals who come by once a year for a couple hundred bucks and download the QC data generated by Barco software. I have recently looked at mammos on a $500 4K TV and I can’t tell the difference, but it isn’t legal.  I travel to the hospital 1-2 days a work week for locs and biopsies. Diagnostics by phone consult in real time. It allows tiny rural hospitals to provide mammo services without in house coverage. 

                  Nice post and I wonder how the lockdowns and nationwide shift to remote work will affect radiology.