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[b]Greitens Fade Reorders Missouri Senate Race[/b][/h1]
Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R) is surging toward the front of the pack in Missouris GOP Senate primary, reordering a crowded race thats long been marked by former Gov. Eric Greitens (R) lead in the polls, [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/11/greitens-hartzler-missouri-senate-race-00024351]Politico[/link] reports.
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[b]John Fetterman Expands Lead In Pennsylvania[/b][/h1]
A new [link=https://www.post-gazette.com/news/politics-state/2022/04/14/fetterman-pulls-ahead-as-democratic-favorite-gop-pa-senate-race-still-wide-open-in-april-f-m-poll/stories/202204130138]Franklin & Marshall College Poll[/link] in Pennsylvania finds John Fetterman (D) has pulled ahead as the Democratic U.S. Senate frontrunner over Rep. Conor Lamb (D), 41% to 17%, while 26% are still undecided.
Said pollster Berwood Yost: If you are a candidate, you want to be in Fettermans position. He seemed to solidify his advantage. It doesnt seem like Lamb is making any inroads in his name recognition.
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[h1][link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sltrib.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F2022%2F04%2F23%2Fsaturdays-utah-democratic%2F]Utah Democrats back independent Evan McMullin for U.S. Senate in a historic vote[/link][/h1]
In an extraordinary move on Saturday, Utah Democrats voted to back independent candidate Evan McMullin over Democrat Kael Weston to challenge the winner of the Republican primary later this year. At the Utah Democratic Convention at Cottonwood High School in Murray, McMullin received 782 of the delegates votes, around 57%, to Westons 594 votes …
Its an unprecedented measure for Democrats in a state with an all-Republican congressional delegation. Convention delegates grappled between party loyalty or backing an outsider, who in supporters minds, increased the likelihood of defeating a Republican in November. Democrats were motivated by the prospect of unseating Sen. Mike Lee …
Lee still needs to defeat challengers Ally Isom and Becky Edwards in his June primary to face McMullin in the general election.
Democrats are putting country over party, McMullin said after the vote. This is our democracy and, yes, it can be messy at times as we saw today, but its sure a heck of a lot better than the alternative.
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Evan McMullin Pledges Not to Caucus with Either Party[/h1]
Evan McMullins U.S. Senate campaign spokesperson on Monday reiterated that if he were to become elected the independent candidate vying for incumbent Mike Lees seat would not caucus with the Republican or Democratic parties, the [link=https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2022/04/26/evan-mcmullin-says-he/]Salt Lake Tribune[/link] reports.
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Teagan Goddard:
[b][link=https://politicalwire.com/2022/05/04/how-abortion-could-allow-democrats-to-keep-the-senate/]How Abortion Could Help Democrats Keep the Senate[/link][/b]If abortion becomes a major issue in the midterm elections, it has the potential to dramatically impact the race for control of the U.S. Senate.
Courtesy of the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/upshot/polling-abortion-states.html?searchResultPosition=1]New York Times[/link], heres the net support for abortion rights in each of the battleground states with important Senate races:
[ul][*]Georgia +2[*]North Carolina +5[*]Ohio +10[*]Wisconsin +13[*]Pennsylvania +13[*]Arizona +13[*]Florida +18[*]Colorado +20[*]Nevada +32[*]New Hampshire +35 [/ul]
[ul] [/ul] These numbers suggest that not many Republican Senate candidates are going to be celebrating the overturning of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court this summer. Its also why you see most Senate Republicans currently more interested in talking about the leaked draft decision instead of its substance.
If these numbers are correct and polling on abortion is notoriously hard theres just no upside for the GOP in making this a big campaign issue.With inflation and the economy [link=https://politicalwire.com/2022/05/04/most-americans-have-dismal-view-of-economy/]the top worries for most voters[/link], it wont be easy for Democrats to keep the focus on abortion rights. But if they can, it could help them win many of these key Senate races.
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As if the Pennsylvania races werent crazy enough.
Now John Fetterman, up by over 20 points over Conor Lamb, had a stroke over weekend due to a-fib
He looks good in his post-event video but wow
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the silent killer. I know someone that went to get a wart removed at an urgent care and they took vitals. Saw the high heart rate and bang. Next thing you know you’re getting treated for AFib.
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Teagan Goddard:
[b][link=https://politicalwire.com/2022/05/04/how-abortion-could-allow-democrats-to-keep-the-senate/]How Abortion Could Help Democrats Keep the Senate[/link][/b]If abortion becomes a major issue in the midterm elections, it has the potential to dramatically impact the race for control of the U.S. Senate.
Courtesy of the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/04/upshot/polling-abortion-states.html?searchResultPosition=1]New York Times[/link], heres the net support for abortion rights in each of the battleground states with important Senate races:
[ul][*]Georgia +2[*]North Carolina +5[*]Ohio +10[*]Wisconsin +13[*]Pennsylvania +13[*]Arizona +13[*]Florida +18[*]Colorado +20[*]Nevada +32[*]New Hampshire +35 [/ul]
[ul] [/ul] These numbers suggest that not many Republican Senate candidates are going to be celebrating the overturning of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court this summer. Its also why you see most Senate Republicans currently more interested in talking about the leaked draft decision instead of its substance.If these numbers are correct and polling on abortion is notoriously hard theres just no upside for the GOP in making this a big campaign issue.
With inflation and the economy [link=https://politicalwire.com/2022/05/04/most-americans-have-dismal-view-of-economy/]the top worries for most voters[/link], it wont be easy for Democrats to keep the focus on abortion rights. But if they can, it could help them win many of these key Senate races.
Add gun control to the mix and maybe we will see something surprising happen?
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3523512-warnock-walker-tied-in-georgia-senate-race-kemp-leads-abrams-for-governor-poll/]https://thehill.com/homen…ams-for-governor-poll/[/link]
[link=https://surveyresearch-ecu.reportablenews.com/pr/georgia-senate-race-tied-kemp-leads-abrams-by-five]https://surveyresearch-ec…p-leads-abrams-by-five[/link]
[b]Warnock and Walker are tied[/b][b] in a new poll at 46 percent.[/b]
Among Black voters: Warnock- 83% Walker- 7%
White voters: Warnock-29% Walker-65%(and, as predicted, Abrams running about 5 points behind)
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You’ve got to be dumber than Hershel Walker to vote for him
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You’ve got to be dumber than Hershel Walker to vote for him
It’s a truly sad state of affairs that Walker, who is either brain damaged, baseline stupid, or both is tied.
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You’ve got to be dumber than Hershel Walker to vote for him
It’s a truly sad [b]state [/b]of affairs that Walker, who is either brain damaged, baseline stupid, or both is tied.
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have to maintain turnout in the face of republican efforts to keep people from voting, or votes from counting.
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wow[link=https://twitter.com/EricGreitens/status/1538876823978713089]https://twitter.com/EricGreitens/status/1538876823978713089[/link]
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Another Republican ***hole outing themselves. Time for the Dems to embrace the RINOs and return to a functional government. Can anyone on the left see this historic opportunity?
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I am becoming very tired seeing the Dems get their **s handed to them by a bunch of ****heads who know how to play election politics better than they do. I know the deck is stacked with partisan primaries but this is winnable with the right approach. Hint, its not going farther left and trying to convince people that the voters they should be courting are deplorable because they are right leaning.
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Deleted UserJune 20, 2022 at 11:42 amIm in total shock
I am becoming very tired seeing the Dems get their **s handed to them by a bunch of ****heads who know how to play election politics better than they do
I 100 % agree with you for maybe the first time ever
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Haha. If you spent any time talking to me in person you would realize we agree on just about everything, policy wise.
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Im in total shock
I am becoming very tired seeing the Dems get their **s handed to them by a bunch of ****heads who know how to play election politics better than they do
I 100 % agree with you for maybe the first time ever
Yes, but. Democrats are certainly bringing a debate team to a Republican gun fight, yes. But the single problem I have about this argument is that it places all the blame on Democrats for not doing something that is supposed to attract the voters voting for Trumps lies and attraction to racism, fascism & authoritarianism and all the other things while essentially giving Republicans a pass for supporting those lies & fascism, etc.
Might as well ask why so many Europeans – and Americans supported fascism in the 1930s. Was it because the opposition wasnt appealing enough to counter that support?While at it, I see the GQP as a close if not identical equivalent to the Russians who believe they are fighting Nazis. So someone tell me, what should Ukrainians do to get Russians see reality?
Identical problem with Trump/Republican voters. How to get the believers in evil lies to see the truth?
Fundamentally, what would Trump supporters actually cross over to vote Democrats in? Is it policy? Socialism? Ok, so someone please explain this Socialism that is so evil. Social security? Medicare? Farm support? That is the fundamental question. No one seems to be able to answer that question.
The problem is all those who support Trump, Trumpism and all the anti-American, anti-democratic and fundamental religion, racism that the GQP now stands for. The problem for Democrats is about actually turning out to vote, even against the measures Republicans use to void and discount Democratic votes.
How is Trump all Democrats fault? What would make the MAGA crowd vote Democratic? Tax cuts? Please explain someone.
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Boy are you confused Frumi. Its not the MAGA crowd the Dems should courting. Its independents like me and Republicans that support Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney. You know, the RINOs that Trump and the GQP hates and hate Trump. Im sorry you dont believe there is a such a thing.
Not one person I know suggested Trump is the Dems fault. Strange assumption really.
The more I read that post its not just strange. Its pathological. You are having one of your pillow fights again with an imagined foe. Who in their right mind would think what chiro and I believe and just comments on suggests the insane Trump supporters would vote Dem? You need to go back and read what we have written.
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Deleted UserJune 21, 2022 at 3:25 amI have actually always been more of a centrist and the party that appeals to the center usually wins
That being said who exactly are the leaders of todays Democratic Party and what do they stand for?
Where are they?
Or better yet where have they been fit the last year?
They are largely silent letting the republicans control the narrative while fixating on Donald trump
Now granted The events of January 6 were a terrible atrocity and should be talked about and looked into but the democrats need to step up more so on other issues too
Instead they are sitting back getting beat over the head on nearly every current issue
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Deleted UserJune 21, 2022 at 3:28 amI mean seriously how sick is fixation on critical race anti education anti science and the demonization of facts that the republicans are using today?
How sick and how threatening is that and why arent the democrats being more effective in countering this crazy sheet?
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It motivates their base.
And it’s been very effective GOP messaging. They have been able to convince a huge chunk of the American public that any discussion about race is “critical race theory.” It takes something totally reasonable (and necessary) and morphs it into something that appears scary and radical to rubes in the suburbs.
And Democrats do not have an effective counter message. It has been mostly “don’t put white supremacists in charge of school curriculum” or academic terminology like “systemic racism.” … that makes right-leaning and independents feel accused and/or stupid.
Bannon was right about Dems: The longer they talk about identity politics, I got em. I want them to talk about racism every day. If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.
That Bannon message has now morphed into [i]Republicans[/i] making sure that their base thinks the only issues are race and identity. And the Right leaning media is happy to oblige to CRT all day every day.
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I mean seriously how sick is fixation on critical race anti education anti science and the demonization of facts that the republicans are using today?
How sick and how threatening is that and why arent the democrats being more effective in countering this crazy sheet?
I have been trying to explain it to you for a couple of years and you keep saying I dont agree. To use your term these people are bat sheet crazy. We all know that. The problem is when you call them that in public you become the enemy that they will use any method to defeat you, even illegal. It rallies their base as dergon says. Just laugh and let them flounder.
Then go to the center for a bit to win a majority. Heck, I dont know for sure if it will work but it has to be better than what has been happening.
Edit, I should have read more. What has been happening is displayed nicely by Frumi above. I agree with him on a lot of policy issues but the vitriol is so strong and mocking that I am almost tempted to vote against him just to spite him. Notice I said almost.-
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Deleted UserJune 21, 2022 at 6:32 amConsidering social media as well as “mainstream media” like Fox is spreading misinformation propaganda, what does anyone here think should be done?
I think what should be done is constantly beat your winning points into the ground over and over and over again
Republicans do have talking points
I dont agree with almost all of them but they at least have them
Democrats have no talking points.
Furthermore they let themselves get labeled by republicans to easily
I think we need to look more at politicians like Sherrod Brown and Fetterman and Stacey Abrams
What are they doing right.
We should look at them and learn
Heck also Bernie and AOC. At least they stand for something and arent afraid
The other democrats need to pick it up
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Deleted UserJune 21, 2022 at 6:39 amI do think that continuing to point out conspiracy and false information is important
The problem is the democrats point it out laugh about it then move on
I think we need to fixate on their false claims and routinely beat them over the head with it
The one thing the demon are doing well is routinely bashing the election deniers
Thats is one battle the democrats are winning and its because they are tenacious about it and dont let the lie go without a correction
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I do think that continuing to point out conspiracy and false information is important
The problem is the democrats point it out laugh about it then move on
I think we need to fixate on their false claims and routinely beat them over the head with it
The one thing the demon are doing well is routinely bashing the election deniers
Thats is one battle the democrats are winning and its because they are tenacious about it and dont let the lie go without a correction
Agree they should stick with messages that have facts on their side. You dont understand what I mean by move on. This is not an issue the should move on from. But they need to be careful how they play identity politics. What they should move on from is trying to convince people that any Republican or right leaning independent is to blame. Bring these people in. They can help.
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This is a good start. Lets find the points we do agree on. There are many. Then dont assume that because someone moves left or right on one we dont agree with that they are an example of the worst of the other side.
chiro, you mention labels. They are best avoided. Ive tried many times here but maybe this another chance to discuss what this organization is doing?
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The Democrats have to get very angry about what the Right is doing to our country and government.
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I have actually always been more of a centrist and the party that appeals to the center usually wins
Agreeing is becoming common. I sensed this was your smart position.
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[h1]Ex-Prosecutor Urged to Make Independent Senate Run In Missouri[/h1]
John Wood, a former federal prosecutor currently serving as a top attorney on the congressional panel probing the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, is being urged to run for Missouris U.S. Senate seat as an independent, the [link=https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/missouri-political-group-eyes-former-prosecutor-to-run-as-independent-for-u-s-senate/article_666e5271-e5bf-5cc6-bd05-068bc9475b2e.html?utm_campaign=social-alert&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newslit]St. Louis Post-Dispatch[/link] reports.Danforth is pushing for an independent candidate in order to provide Missouri voters a principled, traditional conservative choice for the United States Senate this year.
The formation of the campaign committee came on a day when the focus of the Senate race was a [link=https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/greitens-recycles-campaign-meme-from-2016-urging-supporters-to-hunt-people/article_9201c9d6-92a6-5ced-b2c5-9010dd2a649f.html]video released by former Gov. Eric Greitens[/link] showing him and a team of soldiers violently entering a house in search of what Greitens calls RINOS, or Republicans in name only.
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Regarding this “identity politics” thing, let’s remember how old this accusation is.
How about 1964 and 1965 old. That’s when Republicans started calling Democrats, the former supporters of Jim Crow, the party for minorities and started the argument that Democrats were taking from White people and giving it to minorities.
There’s nothing new about that. After signing, Lyndon predicted losing the South to Republicans for the next couple of generations. Little did he know as Nixon won with his Southern Strategy then Reagan with his using resentment to gain votes. That is when everything changed and has remained so since.
[link=https://www.southerncultures.org/article/southern-strategy-from-nixon-to-trump/]https://www.southerncultu…y-from-nixon-to-trump/[/link]
This has been the way of American politics since, this is anything but new. What is new is the Internet and social media giving the propagandists new powerful tools for disinformation and resentment.
How about Lee Atwater? Any of you remember him or were you too young to realize his propaganda?
[link=https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/]https://www.thenation.com…iew-southern-strategy/[/link]
None of this is new.
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I know its not new. It just happens to be a terrible way to get a things done that are beneficial for the majority. Especially trying to identify who is worse.
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This sooooo reminds me of the joke about the psychiatrist showing the patient Rorschach blots; the patient describes every blot having to so with sex and sexual scenes; the psychiatrist tell the patient he is obsessed with sex, why he sees sexual things in all the blots whereupon the patient says, Hey Doc, Im not the one showing dirty pictures!
CRT theory is a couple of decades old. It is older than Trumps term. It is older than Obamas terms. It is older than Bushs & Clintons terms. Yet! How did it become some sort of obsession by the Right? Now?
Because it is the Right and its media suddenly bringing up these decades old things and presenting them to their gullible angry and defensive audiences that THIS! is what the Left is doing and thinks of them. Forget that Trump made dog whistles passé & gave permission for racism & control of women to be said loud and proud.
If anything its LGBTQ things that are causing new panic as they see their children accepting LGBTQ people, and panic it is, akin to that Satanic panic in the 1980s and 1990s by the Right, but that was before the Internet and social media giving a soapbox to hate and fear.
Yes, Democrats are the open party and have not yet been able to counter the message from the Right media like Fox & Tucker, the sole media source for very many Americans. Rather identical to Putins control of Russian media making very many Russians believe they are fighting Nazis.
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Face facts, this shift to the Right and scapegoatism is not local only to America even if Trump used it to excellent results for him and Republicans uniting the fearful against Muslims this time around instead of Jews. Although anti-Semitism is getting stronger around the world.
First the Right admired Putin more than Obama and saw Putin as a more effectual and better leader than Obama. Now they also love Hungary and Victor Orban and his getting love letters from Tucker and the Right and Evangelicals. Putin and Orban and Christian warriors defending the faith! Xi is even believed to have a better and effective government than the US and Western countries because their leaders don’t have to have consensus of any kind. I remember The Federalist publishing articles extolling Putin and dictators as being “effective” and therefore deserving admiration.
How exactly did Democrats mis-message against them? If anything, Democrats are in the same boat as all the other defenders of democracy around the world. Deja vu the 1930’s when Lindbergh and others thought Adolph and Benito were soooo admirable and had the right ideas about the right government and what to do about the “Jewish problem.”
It wasn’t the Democrats then or now although it does seem they are thrashing against the Right’s messaging.
Considering social media as well as “mainstream media” like Fox is spreading misinformation propaganda, what does anyone here think should be done? Never talk about racism or LGBTQ? Act as if those people and their problems do not exist knowing talking about those subjects provides Bannon and his ilk more propaganda of fear???
How should Democrats address this? How should Republicans who don’t support Trumpism address this?
Stop blaming Democrats for the actions and beliefs of the Right.
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Sure get angry, I am. However, I know that channeling that anger into speech and messaging wont help much. Sure its fun in here but I would rather see change.
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Anger begets anger and this leads to war. Heres the problem. The people the dems are truly up against are very afraid of the other side. Sure that fear comes from ignorance, but a scared ignoramus is a very dangerous foe. Be careful how you engage. Also dont make the mistake of ignoring those on the inside that can help with the ignorance part. There are many that cant be reached. There are also many willing to learn. Dont continue to give them bad examples.
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Ron Johnson wanted to deliver the WI and MI fake electors to Pence personally …
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Like any of this is a surprise now. Please. Make something of it! I will be extremely disappointed if all of these people get off clean.
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I guess Mo Brooks wasn’t trumpy enough:
Trump-endorsed Katie Britt defeats Rep. Mo Brooks in Alabama Senate runoff
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Deleted UserJune 21, 2022 at 6:53 pmReally great
Really really great for you and yours
congrats
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Great video of Ron Johnson today. Hes pretending to take a phone call and the reporter goes we can see your screen. Its black.
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[b]Blake Masters Backs Privatizing Social Security[/b][/h1] Arizona U.S. Senate candidate Blake Masters (R) [link=https://twitter.com/KyungLahCNN/status/1540173323098652672?s=20&t=duscYjF_0wKGHADfWu1RxQ]called for privatizing social security[/link] yesterday at a FreedomWorks forum.
“Privatize social security” @bgmasters tells FreedomWorks, saying he will bring fresh thinking to the US Senate. Hard to tell if that sunk in this room, where many are of social security age. #AZprimary pic.twitter.com/jNqKbCiMSa
— Kyung Lah (@KyungLahCNN) June 24, 2022
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[b]John Wood Launches Independent Missouri Senate Bid[/b][/h1]
John Wood, a former senior investigator for the House select committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, launched a Senate campaign in Missouri as an independent, calling for a commonsense alternative to the field of Republican and Democratic candidates, [link=https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/29/politics/john-wood-running-for-senate-missouri-independent/index.html]CNN[/link] reports.
Wood predicted [link=https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/john-wood-former-jan-6-investigator-launches-independent-bid-for-u-s-senate-in-missouri/article_75b2e344-73c3-5c12-bd8a-3b21477bc65f.html]in an interview with the St. Louis Post Dispatch[/link] that former Gov. Eric Greitens (R) would win the GOP primary on Aug. 2 and said voters deserved an alternative in the heavily Republican state.
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Andrew Anglin, the neo-Nazi publisher of [i]The Daily Stormer[/i], one of the internets most notorious hate sites, announced his endorsement of Blake Masters, declaring that the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Arizona is getting better and better, [link=https://jewishinsider.com/2022/07/daily-stormer-andrew-anglin-blake-masters-arizona-senate-republican/]Jewish Insider[/link] reports. -
[b]Missouri GOP Senate Primary Tightens[/b][/h1]
A new [link=https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/TRF-MO-GOP-Sen-Poll-Report-0701.pdf?mkt_tok=NTU2LVlFRS05NjkAAAGFbg8nvv4ehTdFaUTZCHxH6mucgN96VAWdxNVSCkxwHex4biGra6h7ic9Nky_95zKoXvV2hak65EKhsosZtz6YVFXLgovELJu7nzK4on1c6cma]Trafalgar Group poll[/link] in Missouri finds Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R) and former Gov. Eric Greitens (R) tied in the Republican U.S. Senate race at 24%, followed by Attorney General Eric Schmitt (R) at 23% and 17% undecided.
Meanwhile, Schmitt [link=https://youtu.be/OZycleepMRc]launched a new ad[/link] saying that if elected hell take a blowtorch to the Biden agenda while literally holding a blowtorch.-
I don’t know enough about MO politics to know if there is a Dem candidate that has a chance, in which case I hope for a very Trumpy opponent, or if it’s going to be a Republican no matter what and we should hope for a moderate? Can anyone give a primer?
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