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2024 Republican Candidates for President
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David Frum with the post-debate take on the GOP field –
[link=https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/1694699023930691939]https://twitter.com/david…us/1694699023930691939[/link]
tl;dr
DeSantis candidacy is dead, soon to be buried.
Haley may return in 2028.
Hutchinson will do good service on many boards.
Scott will waste much big-donor money.
Pence recovered his dignity.
Christie missed his moment. … -
[h2][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4169315-haley-trump-criticism-most-disliked-politician/]Haley steps up Trump criticism: The most disliked politician in all of America[/link][/h2]
Republican presidential candidate [link=https://thehill.com/people/nikki-haley/]Nikki Haley [/link]stepped up her criticism of her former boss and fellow candidate, former President Trump, calling him the most disliked politician in all of America.
Haley noted that while she was proud to serve in his administration, Trump is going to spend more time in a courtroom than hes gonna spend on the campaign trail.
We cannot allow a President [link=https://thehill.com/people/kamala-harris/]Kamala Harris,[/link] Haley told Hemmer. We have to win that general election and in order to do that, you cant do that with someone who literally three-quarters of the American people dont wanna see Biden and Trump run again, and the majority of Americans, he is the most disliked politician in all of America, thats reality. [/QUOTE]
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[h1]A Ramaswamy Bump Is Coming[/h1]
[link=https://www.natesilver.net/p/ramaswamy-and-the-physics-of-multi?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1198116&post_id=136367120&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email]Nate Silver[/link]: I have a confession: I havent yet watched last nights Republican debate. But I think I can make this prediction regardless. In fact, maybe it doesnt matter that I havent watched, because Im not sure my subjective impressions would help all that much its not as though what Im looking for in a presidential candidate maps very well to the median Iowa caucusgoer.
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Look at all those surge-and-collapses: Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich (twice!), Herman Cain, Rick Santorum, and to some degree Michele Bachmann. On average, they took 6-8 weeks to play out: three or four weeks on the upswing, then a roughly equally rapid descent with the exception of Santorum, who actually sustained his momentum into the voting period and won a few states. This race isnt exactly like 2012 Trump is a much clearer frontrunner than Romney was but it follows some of the same dynamics. The media is bored with [link=https://www.natesilver.net/p/ron-desantiss-electoral-track-record]Trumps ostensible main challenger (DeSantis) underperforming[/link], and the Democratic primary being noncompetitive. It will have a high propensity to chase shiny objects.…
Will this hypothesized Ramaswamy surge be sustained? I have no prediction about that, which would require me to do more scouting (i.e. rely more on my subjective opinion) than I want to do right now. But most surges arent expectations rise, which means candidates are judged against a higher standard, and voters and the media go chasing the next shiny object.
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“Vivek Ramaswamy is a Vegas lounge act version of Donald Trump.” ~ GOP Presidential candidate Will Hurd.
He added: “The more people see of him and what he’s doing, the more disappointed they are going to be.”
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Nik Catogio scores a direct hit with his assessment of Vivek Ramaswamy –
[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fthedispatch.com%2Fnewsletter%2Fboilingfrogs%2Fthe-demagogue-won%2F]https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/b…demagogue-won/[/link]
Quote:
“Republican voters are what they are, and they like what they like. And so it seemed to me ([link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fmorningshots.thebulwark.com%2Fp%2Fthe-vivek-and-nikki-show]and others[/link]) that a glib, shameless, boorish, sloganeering populist outsider brimming with shallow charisma was destined to make the biggest splash in a glib, shameless, boorish, sloganeering populist party. This would end up as The Vivek Debate. How could it be otherwise?”…
“Standing on a stage with one senator and six governors … a brash 38-year-old whos never held public office and who comes off like a coked-up crypto bro made solving Americas problems sound like childs play.”
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“A walking, talking example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.”
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[h2][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4173713-christie-knocks-ramaswamy-as-worst-of-what-politicians-are-characterized-to-be/]Christie on Ramaswamy: The worst of what politicians are characterized to be [/link][/h2]
He [Ramaswamy] stood up there and said, hes not a politician, Christie said Sunday in an interview on CBS Face the Nation. He looks to me to be the worst of what politicians are characterized to be someone who says one thing, does another, and then when you call them, like I did on the negative things he said about [link=https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump/]Donald Trump [/link]on Jan. 6, in his book, he didnt say it.
Christie was referencing a [link=https://rollcall.com/2023/08/24/transcript-gop-presidential-hopefuls-debate-in-milwaukee/]comment he made[/link] during last weeks GOP debate about Ramaswamy regarding his book, in which Christie claimed Ramaswamy had much different things to say about former President Trump than on the debate stage.
[b]If you believe Donald Trump was the greatest president of the 21[sup]st[/sup] century, which is what Vivek said on the stage, then what the hell are you doing running against him? [/b]Christie said. The fact is that Vivek says one thing, does another.
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of course …
[link=https://www.meidastouch.com/news/oj-simpson-endorses-vivek-ramaswamy] OJ Simpson Endorses Vivek Ramaswamy[/h3] [/link]
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[h1][b]Trump Loses Some Support After Republican Debate[/b][/h1]
A new [link=https://emersoncollegepolling.com/august-2023-national-poll-trump-debate-snub-may-open-door-for-other-candidates/]Emerson College poll[/link] finds 50% of Republican Primary voters plan to vote for Donald Trump, the lowest support to date for the former President in Emerson national polls.
Trumps support has dropped by six percentage points since last weeks pre-debate national poll.
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[b]Ramaswamy Fires at Nikki Haley Using Her Birth Name[/b][/h1]
GOP presidential hopeful Vivek Ramaswamy pushed back against fellow Republican candidate Nikki Haleys attacks on his foreign policy positions by targeting her Indian name, [link=https://themessenger.com/politics/ramaswamy-fires-at-nikki-haley-on-campaign-website-keep-lying-namrata-randhawa]The Messenger[/link] reports.
Said Ramaswamy: Keep lying, Namrata Randhawa. The desperation is showing.-
If you believe Donald Trump was the greatest president of the 21st century, which is what Vivek said on the stage, then what the hell are you doing running against him? Christie said. The fact is that Vivek says one thing, does another.
Because he thinks he can do better and be less divisive?
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[b]Trump Way Ahead in Georgia Despite Criminal Charges[/b][/h1]
A new [link=https://www.ajc.com/politics/ajc-poll-trump-leads-republicans-in-georgia-despite-fulton-county-charges/3YXEW4VA7NBNBKJVM6RIE777V4/]Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll[/link] in Georgia finds Donald Trump led the GOP field of presidential contenders with 57%, followed by Ron DeSantis a distant second at 15%.
Every other contender was mired in single digits, while 14% of the respondents were undecided. -
[h1][b]Internal Trump Poll Shows Him with Massive Lead[/b][/h1]
An [link=https://www.semafor.com/article/08/29/2023/internal-post-debate-poll-shows-trump-up-39-points-on-desantis]internal poll[/link] conducted for the Trump campaign finds Donald Trump leading the GOP primary race with 58%, followed by Ron DeSantis at 13%, Nikki Haley at 7% and Vivek Ramaswamy at 4%.
Polls conducted at the behest of presidential campaigns are typically taken with a grain of salt compared to polls conducted independently, though its hardly alone in finding Trump with a massive lead.
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Miami Mayor Francis Suarez becomes the first to drop out of the 2024 race
[link=https://twitter.com/FrancisSuarez/status/1696566861196914997]https://twitter.com/Franc…us/1696566861196914997[/link]
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As a much as 50% of them would like to, it’s been clear for quite a while that the Reps are not going to be the ones to beat Trump. That leaves the Dems or a third party team from the moderates of both parties. I remember when the Dems had a ticket that was a lock to get it done. Sad it is dwindling in popularity.
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Maybe a coincidence but seems coordinated. GOP floating a Trump is too old message?
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Ive said I want someone else to be the Republican nominee right nowI have a no boomer policy right now. No boomers for nominees.
Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-WI), quoted by WISN, on whether hell vote for Donald Trump if hes Republican nominee.
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Tucker Carlson thinks Trump is too old to be president again
[link=https://news.yahoo.com/even-tucker-carlson-thinks-trump-151226269.html]https://news.yahoo.com/ev…s-trump-151226269.html[/link]
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[h1][b]GOP Primary Voters See Trump as Most Electable[/b][/h1]
A new [link=https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/trump-electability-post-gop-debate-poll]Morning Consult poll[/link] finds 62% of potential Republican primary voters said Trump has the best chance of beating Biden, matching a tracking high.
Just 13% of potential GOP primary voters said Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is most electable against President Joe Biden matching a tracking low while the share who said the same of entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy fell from 10% to 6% following his high-profile appearance in the debate.
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[link=https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/trump-is-top-choice-for-nearly-60-of-gop-voters-wsj-poll-shows-877252b6]https://www.wsj.com/polit…sj-poll-shows-877252b6[/link]
Trump Is Top Choice for Nearly 60% of GOP Voters:
Donald Trump has expanded his dominating lead for the Republican presidential nomination, a new Wall Street Journal pollshows, as GOP primary voters overwhelmingly see his four criminal prosecutions as lacking merit and about half say the indictments fuel their support for him.
The new survey finds that what was once a two-man race for the nomination has collapsed into a lopsided contest in which Trump, for now, has no formidable challenger. The former president is the top choice of 59% of GOP primary voters, up 11 percentage points since April, when the Journal tested a slightly different field of potential and declared candidates.
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[link=https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/02/donald-trump-leads-gop-primary-field-by-46-points-wsj-poll-finds-00113829]https://www.politico.com/…sj-poll-finds-00113829[/link]
WSJ poll: Trump leads GOP primary field by 46 points as DeSantis drops
Haley, Ramaswamy and Christie all grew their share of supporters since the April survey, albeit by single digits.think the criminal charges might shake Trumps support with the base?
[b]Even is the allegations are true[/b] only 16% of GOP voters think that would be disqualifying for the presidency
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Mehdi Hassan pounds Ramaswamy’s vj in this interview.
[link]https://youtu.be/qmNg689wlKI?si=04fZqJuiMhphUOlx[/link]-
Some more of it.
Like his whole story has Mehdi shooting holes through it. He took a soros scholarship and is like anyone a few hundred thousand in the bank would take a a scholarship.
[link=https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1699782281748197506?s=46&t=rWwiVdwocpuvqskgif1xxA]https://x.com/mehdirhasan…rWwiVdwocpuvqskgif1xxA[/link]
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