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2024 Republican Candidates for President
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Tip toeing up to a challenge
[h1][b]Nikki Haley says if Trump accusations are true, it’s “incredibly dangerous to our national security”[/b][/h1]
Nikki Haley [link=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nikki-haley-donald-trump-accusations-dangerous/]told CBS News[/link] that if the new accusations made against Donald Trump are true, its incredibly dangerous to our national security.
Said Haley: It doesnt matter if youre Republican or Democrat. You shouldnt be erasing anything unless you have something to hide.
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Fmr GA Lt Gov Geoff Duncan: Nominating Trump is a lot like peeing in your pants. Its gonna feel good for a couple of seconds, but then you wake up and realize the reality of what you just did.
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[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/2024-poll-nyt-siena-trump-republicans.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email]New York Times/Siena College poll[/link]
Trump Crushing DeSantis and G.O.P. Rivals, Times/Siena Poll Finds[/h1] The twice-indicted former president leads across nearly every category and region, as primary voters wave off concerns about his escalating legal jeopardy.
Trump 54
DeSantis 17
Pence 3
Scott 3
Haley 3
Ramaswamy 2
Christie 2Trump leads by wide margins among men and women, younger and older voters, moderates and conservatives, those who went to college and those who didnt, and in cities, suburbs and rural areas.
Even if…DeSantis got a hypothetical one-on-one race against Mr. Trump, he would still lose by a two-to-one margin, 62 percent to 31 percent, the poll found.
He might say mean things and make all the men cry because all the men are wearing your wifes underpants and you cant be a man anymore. You got to be a little sissy and cry about everything. But at the end of the day, you want results. Donald Trumps my guy. Hes proved it on a national level.
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Which candidate spent $108k on his wifes hair?
[link=https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1686158398608310272?s=46&t=rWwiVdwocpuvqskgif1xxA]https://twitter.com/rpyer…rWwiVdwocpuvqskgif1xxA[/link]
Incredibly, despite Trump's cash crunch, his Save America leadership PAC shelled out another $108,000 in the first six months of the year for Melania Trump's stylist, Herve Pierre Braillard, while insisting to the FEC that it's for 'strategy consulting'. pic.twitter.com/tWL9gmFIQF
— Rob Pyers (@rpyers) July 31, 2023
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I think that some of them are unwilling to do it because they dont think its politically smart, some of them are auditioning for a potential Trump administration, and I think some of them just arent able to do it: they just physically arent equipped to be able to be in that combat.
Chris Christie, [link=https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/is-chris-christie-really-the-anti-trump/id1643307527?i=1000623289759]talking to Kara Swisher[/link] on why other GOP candidates wont call out Donald Trump.
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[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/us/politics/trump-iowa-poll.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…s/trump-iowa-poll.html[/link]
Desantis finally gets a decent poll in Iowa[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2rJaUvXcAAEvxC?format=jpg&name=medium[/img]
2024 Iowa Republican Caucus
Trump 44% (+24)
DeSantis 20%
Scott 9%
Ramaswamy 5%
Haley 4%
Pence 3%
Burgum 1%
Undecided 12%Head to head
Trump 55% (+16)
DeSantis 39%-
Thats really bad news for the Reps. RD would lose worse than Trump in a general election.
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[h3][link=https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4139325-the-gops-warholian-campaign-and-the-inevitability-of-trump/]The GOP’s Warholian campaign and the inevitability of Trump[/link][/h3]
No one who wrote [link=https://thehill.com/people/ron-desantis/]Ron DeSantis [/link]a check with six or seven figures on it expected their golden boy would hire a claque of barely disguised alt-right cranks for his campaign. No one sitting in a board room off Sand Hill Road thought DeSantis would [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4121368-desantis-floats-rfk-jr-to-run-cdc-or-fda/#:~:text=Florida%20governor%20and%20GOP%20presidential,the%20major%20federal%20health%20agencies.]float[/link] naming conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., as head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or Food and Drug Administration.
They believed all that money and the talented people surrounding DeSantis would mold him into the candidate they needed to defeat Trump.
But some things cant be trained. Even if DeSantis had been willing (and he most certainly was not) to be trained, it wouldve been an uphill battle. Hes not good with humans, hes terrible in the room and he bleats out the word woke as if hes suffering from culture war Tourettes syndrome.
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When you drop, as DeSantis did, from the mid-30s to the low teens in GOP primary polling, you can forget your Camelot dream house.
This shouldve surprised no one who observed DeSantis. But now Republican elite circles are in a frenzy to find the next substitute to take on Trumpand the next and the next.
The nomination was always Trumps to lose, and with the former president polling at over 50 percent in Iowa, their chances are narrowing by the day.I like the line on DeSantis: “Hes not good with humans, hes terrible in the room and he bleats out the word woke as if hes suffering from culture war Tourettes syndrome.”
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He’s as bad as Trump. They were supposedly spending lavishly taking care of his Disney Princess’ travel requirements.
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[h1][b]Trump Crushing Rivals in New Hampshire, GOP Support Remains Despite Indictments[/b][/h1]
A new [link=https://nhjournal.com/exclusive-poll-trump-holds-big-lead-in-nh-desantis-drops-to-tie-with-christie/]NHJournal/co-efficient poll[/link] in New Hampshire finds that[b] 62% of GOP primary voters said they would vote to elect Donald Trump president even if he were convicted of a felony.[/b]
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In a further display of resolve, [b]57% said they would vote to send Trump back to the White House even if he were serving time in prison on Election Day.[/b]
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The primary itself, Trump leads with 43%, followed by. Chris Christie at 9%, Ron DeSantis at 9%, Nikki Haley at 7%, Tim Scott at 5% and Vivek Ramaswamy at 5%.
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New Hampshire live free or die! Here’s your cup, the kegs over there.
[link]https://youtu.be/hnTVNZojojU[/link]
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[link=https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/national/]https://projects.fivethir…imary-r/2024/national/[/link]
Trump dominates 2024 GOP polling.
Desantis falls below 15%
Trump: 53.7
DeSantis: 14.3
Ramaswamy: 7.5
Pence: 5.5 -
[link=https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1690375946480570369]https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1690375946480570369[/link]
Dude can rap.
In an alternate universe where Ramaswamy was a progressive and not an anti-woke tech bro d-bag Trump bootlick with repugnant political views, he would be a Democratic up and coming.
There would be NYT and WaPo articles about him being the next Obama
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4152546-christie-pulls-ahead-of-desantis-in-new-hampshire-gop-primary-poll/]Christie pulls ahead of DeSantis in New Hampshire GOP primary:
[link=https://emersoncollegepolling.com/new-hampshire-2024-desantis-fades-trump-maintains-lead-in-primary/]https://emersoncollegepol…tains-lead-in-primary/[/link]
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2024 GOP Primary:Trump 49%
Christie 9%
DeSantis 8%
Scott 6%
Burgum 4%
Haley 4%
Ramaswamy 3%
Johnson 2%
Pence 1%
Hurd 1%
13% undecided -
Another day, another poll with Rob DeSantis sliding into 3rd
[link=https://kaplanstrategies.com/2023/08/14/trump-leads-close-race-for-second-place/]https://kaplanstrategies….race-for-second-place/[/link]\\
Kaplan Strategies
2024 National Republican Primary
Trump 48% (+37)
Ramaswamy 11%
DeSantis 10%
Pence 8%
Christie 4%
Haley 4%
Scott 2%
Burgum 1%-
[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediaite.com%2Fpolitics%2Framaswamy-says-hed-run-the-government-like-elon-musk-runs-twitter-a-good-example-of-what-i-want-to-do%2F]https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ra…-i-want-to-do/[/link]
[i]Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy explained that if he is elected, he will use Elon Musks stewardship of Twitter as a model for how to run the government.[/i]
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As the Founders intended, twits running the country elected by twits.
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Another garbage post? You copy pasted one line from an article printed in a news organization that leans left and has a reputation for using sensational headlines and at times lacks presentation of facts. Why didnt you post his entire comment?
His point was Musk eliminated waste and his openness about the government involvement w Twitter. Here is what he said:
Look, I think Elon is an excellent example of what he did at Twitter, is a good example of what I want to do to the administrative state, Ramaswamy replied. Take out 75% of the dead weight cost, improve the actual experience of what its supposed to do. And at the same time, I love the way he released the Twitter files. Ill release the state action files. Any time a bureaucrat has pressured a private company, lets publish it for the world to see. And he put an X through Twitter? Ill put an X on the administrative state. So, thats where Im at on common tactics with Elon.
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I see, he is going to ‘drain the swamp’.
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This is more Musk marketeering than reality. Twit looks trashed by Musk these days. Not to mention his capricious moves or the free speech “absolutist” deciding to block, even if ‘only’ temporarily, those accounts, posts or users he does not like.
He’s proving to be a rich flake. We already had a rich capricious flake for President imposing his idiocy on the country, we don’t need that as THE ideal government and leader. That’s beyond stupid.-
The butt hurt you people have for Elon is hilarious.
We are lucky to have someone like him to shine the light on the authoritarian Biden censorship regime.
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ROTFLMAO!
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Trump is all they need, why bother with job interviews for others? Biden is so bad Trump will be a shoo-in.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/20/us/politics/biden-trump-republican-primary.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=US%20Politics]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/20/us/politics/biden-trump-republican-primary.html[/link]Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida has run into a surprising buzz saw in his bid to sell himself as the Republican Partys most electable standard-bearer in 2024 and it has more to do with President Biden than it does with Donald J. Trump.
For months, Republican voters have consumed such a steady diet of clips of Mr. Biden stumbling, over words and [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/01/us/politics/biden-fall-air-force-commencement.html]sandbags[/link], that they now see the 80-year-old Democratic incumbent as so frail that he would be beatable by practically any Republican even a four-times-indicted former president who lost the last election.
As Mr. Trumps rivals take the stage for the first debate of the 2024 primaries on Wednesday, the perceived weaknesses of Mr. Biden have undercut one of the core arguments that Mr. DeSantis and others have made from the start: that the party must turn the page on the past and move beyond Mr. Trump in order to win in 2024.
The focus on electability the basic notion of which candidate has the best shot of winning a general election was most intense in the aftermath of the disappointing 2022 midterms. Republicans were stung by losses of Trump-backed candidates in key swing states like Arizona, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And the issue offered a way to convince a Republican electorate still very much in the thrall of Mr. Trump to consider throwing its lot in with a fresh face in 2022. It was a permission slip to move on.
But nine months later, interviews with pollsters, strategists, elected officials and Republican voters in early-voting states show that the dim Republican opinion of Mr. Bidens mental faculties and political skills has complicated that case in deep and unexpected ways.
I mean, I would hope anybody could beat Joe Biden at this point, said Heather Hora, 52, as she waited in line for a photo with Mr. Trump at an Iowa Republican Party dinner, echoing a sentiment expressed in more than 30 interviews with Iowa Republicans in recent weeks.
Mr. Trumps rivals are still pushing an electability case against the former president, but even their advisers and other strategists acknowledge that the diminished views of Mr. Biden have sapped the pressure voters once felt about the need to nominate someone new. When Republican primary voters in a recent [link=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/31/us/elections/times-siena-poll-republican-primary-crosstabs.html]New York Times/Siena College poll[/link] were asked which candidate was better able to beat Mr. Biden, 58 percent picked Mr. Trump, while 28 percent selected Mr. DeSantis.
The perception that Biden is the weakest possible candidate has lowered the electability question in the calculus of primary voters, said Josh Holmes, a Republican strategist and a longtime adviser to Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican minority leader.[b]Conservative media, led by Fox News, has played a role in shaping G.O.P. views. Fox has often elevated Mr. DeSantis as the future of the Republican Party, coverage that has frustrated the former president. But the networks persistent harping on Mr. Bidens frailties may have inadvertently undercut any effort to build up Mr. DeSantiss campaign.[/b]
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[link=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll-indictments-2023-08-20/]https://www.cbsnews.com/n…ndictments-2023-08-20/[/link]
[h1]CBS News poll: Trump takes largest lead yet, as GOP voters dismiss indictments[/h1]
[img]https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/2023/08/19/a047478b-ae89-4a61-bac3-46ed3fd01522/gop-horse-race.png?v=0b4ae642db52799a178d90d83603a9dc[/img]They dismiss the premise of the charges: the bulk of them do think Trump tried to stay in office, but to them, it was legal and constitutional because these Republican primary voters overwhelmingly think Joe Biden didn’t win legitimately.
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There may be a rally effect: a sizable three-quarters of Trump’s voters include those who “show support for his legal troubles” as one rationale, among others, for considering him in the first place.
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Trump far and away leads the GOP field among voters who place top importance on a candidate being “honest and trustworthy.”
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Trump 62% (+46)
DeSantis 16%
Ramaswamy 7%
Pence 5%
Scott 3%
Haley 2%
Christie 2%
Hutchinson 1%
Burgum 1%
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[link=https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/caucus/2023/08/21/iowa-poll-donald-trump-holds-commanding-lead-5-months-to-caucuses/70624481007/]Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom Iowa Poll[/link]
[h1] Donald Trump holds commanding lead in first test of 2024 Republican caucus field[/h1]
Among those likely caucusgoers, 42% say they plan to support Trump a lead of 23 percentage points over DeSantis, who is at 19%. U.S. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina follows in third place with 9%.
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The poll finds many indicators of Trumps strength, but the race is not settled and may be closer than it may first seem, said J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co., the firm that conducted the poll.…
A majority, or 52%, of likely GOP caucusgoers have a first choice for president and say they could still be persuaded to support a different candidate, while 40% say their minds are made up. Seven percent do not have a first-choice candidate.[/QUOTE]
[link=https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1693572837850657148]https://twitter.com/Steve…us/1693572837850657148[/link]
[link=https://twitter.com/brianneDMR/status/1693570145375961285]https://twitter.com/brian…us/1693570145375961285[/link]
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Hes just asking questions (and pandering to the whack jobs)
Vivek Ramaswamy: “I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right?”
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[h1][b]The Path to Beating Trump in the GOP Primary[/b][/h1]
[link=https://michael96.substack.com/p/great-scott?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1595632&post_id=135546286&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email]Mike Murphy[/link]: For all the punditocracy noise about national primary voter polls and Donald Trumps supposed unbreakable lock on the Republican Party (Im still dubious), in my view the nomination race boils down to a brutally simple formula: somebody has to beat Trump in Iowa and then a week or so later in New Hampshire. That would upend the race and Trump would quickly melt into orange goo Wicked Witch of the West style. And the polling I see shows Trump doing worse in Iowa and New Hampshire where he is starting to have competition than he is nationally.
With enough vodka, you can formulate this beat Trump in Iowa and New Hampshire scenario for each of the major contenders. DeSantis could have a comeback, hes doing better on the ground in Iowa than in the airy salons and green rooms of the Beltway conventional wisdom machine. But the terror of Tallahassee is still a lousy candidate with campaign mired in a Stalingrad of fratricide while saddled with a lousy strategy of being a dime-store version of Donald Trump. Nikki Haley might have a terrific debate moment, which somehow fuels a comeback. Maybe. But probably not. Vivek Ramaswamy is enjoying the primary cycles usual Ben Carson/Herman Cain/Steve Forbes outsider oddballs early bump, but I doubt it will last through the winter. Doug Burgum, despite a terrific launch video, is inexplicably running for Secretary of Energy. Ill discuss the ceiling hanging over Chris Christie a bit later.
To my mind, it is Sen. Tim Scott who has the biggest set of advantages.
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[link=https://floridapolitics.com/archives/630013-poll-with-9-support-ron-desantis-falls-to-4th-place-in-new-hampshire/]Poll: With 9% support, Ron DeSantis falls to 4th place in New Hampshire Poll:
[b]Poll: With 9% support, Ron DeSantis falls to 4th place in New Hampshire[/b]
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[link=http://donaldjtrump.com/][b]Donald Trump[/b][/link] (34%),
[b]Chris Christie[/b] (14%)
[link=http://vivek2024.com/][b]Vivek Ramaswamy[/b][/link] (11%).
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surprisingly strong number for Chris Christie. I kind of like him swinging at Trump. Too bad the coward Don Trump won’t hit the debate stage.
