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  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 6, 2023 at 4:10 am

    [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/06/us/politics/woke-republicans-poll.html]New York Times[/link]: 

    [b]Are G.O.P. Voters Tiring of the War on Wokeness?[/b][/h1] New polling shows national Republicans and Iowa Republican caucusgoers were more interested in law and order than battling woke schools, media and corporations.

    The term has become quick a way for candidates to flash their conservative credentials, but battling woke may have less political potency than they think. Though conservative voters might be irked at modern liberalism, successive New York Times/Siena College polls of Republican voters nationally and then in Iowa found that candidates were unlikely to win votes by narrowly focusing on rooting out left-wing ideology in schools, media, culture and business.

    Instead, Republican voters are showing a hands off libertarian streak in economics, and a clear preference for messages about law and order in the nations cities and at its borders.

    As it turns out, social issues like gender, race and sexuality are politically complicated and may be less dominant than Mr. Trumps rivals thought.

    [/QUOTE]
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 10, 2023 at 3:38 am

      Florida high schools are now removing Shakespeare, including the full text of Romeo and Juliet, to comply with Republicans new law restricting sexual content.

      [b]I think the rest of the nation no, the world, is laughing at us, a teacher said.[/b]

      [link=https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/status/1688984347682975745?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw]https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/status/1688984347682975745?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw[/link]

      • adrianoal

        Member
        August 10, 2023 at 6:11 am

        Quote from dergon

        Florida high schools are now removing Shakespeare, including the full text of Romeo and Juliet, to comply with Republicans new law restricting sexual content.

        [b]I think the rest of the nation no, the world, is laughing at us, a teacher said.[/b]

        [link=https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/status/1688984347682975745?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw]https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/status/1688984347682975745?s=61&t=jsIZllSIAp6Fe-FmvZNVnw[/link]

         
        not clear from the article that this isn’t just grandstanding on the part of a few school districts– says the legislation specifically *recommended* Shakespeare.
         
        So they find a kissing scene in R&J, pull it from the library, and call a journalist and say “look what DeathSantis made us do!” 
         
        I think DeSantis sucks, but this is likely baloney.

        • satyanar

          Member
          August 10, 2023 at 6:54 am

          My thoughts as well BHE.

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    August 10, 2023 at 7:28 am

    Grandstanding by whom? Florida school boards?

    For whom?

    [link=https://nypost.com/2023/08/09/romeo-and-juliet-banned-from-hillsborough-florida-schools/]https://nypost.com/2023/0…rough-florida-schools/[/link]

    Wherefore art thou, Romeo?

    Definitely not in Hillsborough County, Florida, where the local school board announced Tuesday that students will no longer be permitted to read many of Shakespeares plays in full due to sexual content.

    The decision is in accordance with the states 2022 Parental Rights in Education Act, according to the board.

    The act, recently signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis, prohibits any discussion that is of sexual nature in the classroom unless it pertains to a standard, such as health class.

    It was also in consideration of the law, school district spokeswoman Tanya Arja told the Tampa Bay Times.

    The district stated that should a teacher fail to adhere to the new guidelines, they could be subject to a parent complaint or a disciplinary case at their school.

    • satyanar

      Member
      August 10, 2023 at 8:41 am

      You know what BHE? I considered your thoughts so took a look for myself. I often question the motives of stories and headlines until I read them. The writing in the Post is pretty terrible but nothing I can find suggests these are not just idiotic school boards choosing to interpret the new law in an absurd way. These people really are dangerous. Glad I can choose not to live in FL or OH or AZ or MO or TN or AR.

      • adrianoal

        Member
        August 10, 2023 at 9:52 am

        Quote from Thread Enhancer

        You know what BHE? I considered your thoughts so took a look for myself. I often question the motives of stories and headlines until I read them. The writing in the Post is pretty terrible but nothing I can find suggests these are not just idiotic school boards choosing to interpret the new law in an absurd way. These people really are dangerous. Glad I can choose not to live in FL or OH or AZ or MO or TN or AR.

         
        give it a week and we’ll see
         
        obviously I’m just guessing, but my *guess* is that if this gets any press traction at all in FL you will see the legislature saying this is ridiculous they obviously didn’t mean students couldn’t read Romeo and Juliet in HS etc, and the school boards that pulled it will say “hey we were just trying to comply with the law you wrote” etc etc, when what they were really doing was trying to make a point and get attention.
         
        Nobody was ever getting prosecuted etc for leaving R&J in high school
         
        Or maybe I’m wrong and these are ultra-far right religious conservative school boards who think R&J should be pulled. Could be, but I doubt it.
         
        But again I suspect this is grandstanding by school boards. Easy way to check– was it ultra-conservative school districts that did this, or liberal urban school districts? If the latter, it’s grandstanding. 
         
        If most districts in the state pulled R&J then that’s a different situation.

        • alyaa.rifaie_129

          Member
          August 10, 2023 at 10:53 am

          This was a garbage article and a garbage post by the copy paste keyboard cowboy who functions as AM’s version of Fox news but from the left point of view. He should change his name to dergfox.
           
          First he posted this: 
          [i]Florida high schools are now removing Shakespeare, [/i]
           
          But the article said this:
          [i][b]some [/b]Florida school districts are shying…..[/i]
           
          Then the article  mentions one school district and not any other school district. 
           
          Junk dumb post

          • btomba_77

            Member
            August 10, 2023 at 11:09 am

            [b]Florida Students Now Need Permission to Use Nicknames[/b]

            Florida students will now be required to get their parents consent before using a nickname in schools, a move that critics say targets the LGBTQ+ community and could extend well beyond, People reports.

            The rule would impact everyone from students who prefer using a shorthand nickname (Tom versus Thomas, for instance), to those who prefer a different name altogether, including transgender students (who have already been the target of numerous pieces of legislation in Florida in recent months).

            But even if a transgender student did get permission from their parent to use a different name, teachers would still not be obligated to use that students preferred pronouns.

            • adrianoal

              Member
              August 10, 2023 at 11:12 am

              Quote from dergon

              [b]Florida Students Now Need Permission to Use Nicknames[/b]

              Florida students will now be required to get their parents consent before using a nickname in schools, a move that critics say targets the LGBTQ+ community and could extend well beyond, People reports.

              The rule would impact everyone from students who prefer using a shorthand nickname (Tom versus Thomas, for instance), to those who prefer a different name altogether, including transgender students (who have already been the target of numerous pieces of legislation in Florida in recent months).

              But even if a transgender student did get permission from their parent to use a different name, teachers would still not be obligated to use that students preferred pronouns.

               
              I’m calling BS on this too. Admittedly not taking 5 minutes to research it, but 99.99% of the time articles like this are misleading baloney.

              • btomba_77

                Member
                August 10, 2023 at 11:24 am

                [link=https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-students-some-need-parents-permission-nickname-ron-desantis-2023-8]https://www.businessinsid…me-ron-desantis-2023-8[/link]
                 
                also business insider
                 
                and the intercept
                [link=https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/florida-school-board-anti-trans-policy/]https://theintercept.com/…ard-anti-trans-policy/[/link]
                 
                [link=https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/08/10/some-florida-counties-now-requiring-permission-from-parents-for-teachers-to-call-kids-by-their-nicknames/]https://www.local10.com/n…ds-by-their-nicknames/[/link]
                 
                and local news
                 

                • adrianoal

                  Member
                  August 10, 2023 at 11:46 am

                  Quote from dergon

                  [link=https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-students-some-need-parents-permission-nickname-ron-desantis-2023-8]https://www.businessinsid…me-ron-desantis-2023-8[/link]

                  also business insider

                  and the intercept
                  [link=https://theintercept.com/2023/08/09/florida-school-board-anti-trans-policy/]https://theintercept.com/…ard-anti-trans-policy/[/link]

                  [link=https://www.local10.com/news/local/2023/08/10/some-florida-counties-now-requiring-permission-from-parents-for-teachers-to-call-kids-by-their-nicknames/]https://www.local10.com/n…ds-by-their-nicknames/[/link]

                  and local news

                   
                  Ok, I read it. First, yes it’s an idiotic law.
                   
                  however, if you read the articles, this is how (so far) a few school districts are cautiously interpreting the (dumb) law. The law didn’t say “you can’t call Thomas Tom”. IOW the “no nicknames” thing is policy of the school districts, not explicitly in the state law.
                   
                  I’m not defending the misguided law. But pretty sure that wasn’t the intent (it was anti-LGBTQ), and this is a handful of school districts either being hyper cautious or deliberately taking as drastic action as possible as a way to fight the law.
                   
                  Which I’m fine with. But if this were a less politically charged situation school districts would either have done nothing so drastic, or if genuinely worried asked for clarification. 
                   
                  If FL legislature were reasonable they’d issue a clarification or revise the law. However, wouldn’t surprise me if they instead escalate this into a fight with the school districts. 
                   
                  Anyway, the law is dumb and wrong and should go.
                   
                  From the last link you gave:
                  [i]In Seminole County, Collier County [b]and several others[/b], if a student prefers to be called something other than their legal name, the childs parent must submit written consent before the schools will acknowledge it.[/i]
                   
                  From the Orange County Public Schools memo (cited in the Intercept):
                  [i][b]Until further guidance is given by the State, I would recommend[/b] that educators concerned about the usage of pronouns and potential liability for doing so use only the first name of students as identified in the class roster provided to the teacher when calling on the student in class. Alternatively, a teacher may use a nickname approved by the parent as identified in the form which the parent completes (a copy of which is linked here)[/i]

                   

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 13, 2023 at 4:24 am

    Anti-woke crusader is a racist.  I’m [b]shocked! Shocked, I tell you![/b]
     
     
    [h3][link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/12/opinion/richard-hanania-eugenics-billionaires.html]https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/richard-hanania-white-supremacist-pseudonym-richard-hoste_n_64c93928e4b021e2f295e817[/link][link=https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/richard-hanania-racism-silicon-valley/]

    [/link][/h3] [h1]Richard Hanania, Rising Right-Wing Star, Wrote For White Supremacist Sites Under Pseudonym[/h1] [h3]
    Hanania is championed by tech moguls and a U.S. senator, but HuffPost found he used a pen name to become an important figure in the alt-right.

    [/h3] A prominent conservative writer, lionized by Silicon Valley billionaires and a U.S. senator, used a pen name for years to write for white supremacist publications and was a formative voice during the rise of the racist alt-right, according to a new HuffPost investigation.

    Richard Hanania, a visiting scholar at the University of Texas, used the pen name Richard Hoste in the early 2010s to write articles where he identified himself as a race realist. He expressed support for eugenics and the forced sterilization of low IQ people, who he argued were most often Black. He opposed miscegenation and race-mixing. And once, while arguing that Black people cannot govern themselves, he cited the neo-Nazi author of The Turner Diaries, the infamous novel that celebrates a future race war.
    [h3]A decade later, writing under his real name, Hanania has ensconced himself in the national mainstream media, writing op-eds in the countrys biggest papers, bending the ears of some of the worlds wealthiest men and lecturing at prestigious universities, all while keeping his past white supremacist writings under wraps.

    [link=https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/08/richard-hanania-racist-message.html]Richard Hanania’s Fringe Views Have Found a Wide Audience
    [/link][/h3] [h1]Our Journey Into Extremism[/h1]   [h2]The revealing case of the anti-woke crusader Richard Hanania.[/h2] [h3][link=https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/08/richard-hanania-racist-message.html]

    [/link]

    Richard Hanania, an intellectual muse of the Silicon Valley right, once argued against apologies in a 2015 op-ed for the Washington [i]Post[/i] in part because males who show social dominance are judged more attractively as potential mates. It was perhaps inevitable that Hanania, a writer whose forthcoming book, [i]The Origins of Woke, [/i]has been effusively praised by Peter Thiel, presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, and the entrepreneur David Sacks, would eventually be forced to apologize himself. The words [i]Im sorry [/i]dont appear in his August 7 essay in Quillette, but his attempts to explain the repugnant views he once held, exposed days earlier in a damning HuffPost report, convey a clear sense of regret.


    Hananias rise from dweller on racist message boards to right-wing public thinker in good stead with bylines in the New York [i]Times [/i]and [i]The Atlantic,[/i] a book deal with HarperCollins, and endorsements ranging from Elon Musk to Senator J.D. Vance has been held up as proof of the anti-woke campaigns deeper beliefs. Bolstering this case are revelations that a staffer for Ron DeSantis, who has made the battle against wokeness the centerpiece of his presidential bid, had created and promoted a video depicting DeSantis inside a Nazi symbol. That racists are now crawling all over conservative politics is no surprise given that DeSantis recently extolled the supposed benefits of slavery and Ramaswamy declared that Juneteenth was a useless holiday just the latest evidence of the GOPs renewed audacity on the issue of race, which has generally been accepted as one of the monuments of a Trump-dominated landscape.

    [/QUOTE][link=https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/richard-hanania-racism-silicon-valley/]

    Why Does This Racist Keep Getting Silicon Valley Money?[/link][/h3]

    Given his wealthy benefactors and elite conservative defenders, Hanania is likely to rise in prominence, with his alleged cancellation only giving him greater visibility and influence. Hes useful on a number of grounds. As a former overt racist who now calls himself a supporter of [link=https://www.richardhanania.com/p/towards-an-enlightened-centrism]enlightened centrism[/link], he offers a message that can reunite the fractured right. Hananias core appeal is his claim that racists dont need to be fringe radicals, since they can achieve all their policy goals by working with mainstream conservatives. To those conservatives, he demonstrates that racists can become more polite and clubbable; to racists, his career proves that racism can flourish under mainstream conservative patronage. Its a powerful message.
    Hanania also benefits from a perverse form of right-wing affirmative action. As he wrote in his apologia, I know Im not white by most peoples definition. Hes a person of color who supports the racial status quoalways a winning combination on the right, as can be seen from the success of figures like Clarence Thomas and Dinesh DSouza.
    Right-wingers have finally found a Palestinian they can like. Its too bad hes a Nazi. 
    [/QUOTE]
     

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      August 13, 2023 at 5:31 am

      Rising young conservatives’ attraction to right-wing and racist ideology. They know they have a relatively large audience because they get support and money from their audience and have felt the elevation of their beliefs from their conservative audiences. 
       
      What is the attraction to racism and bigotry and downright Fascism for these conservatives? Order? Except so many of their solutions to get to “order” involve support for violence.
       
      Weak-kneed Liberalism. Nothing like real men. The Brave New World. 
       
      [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/13/opinion/masculinity-right-young-men.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/13/opinion/masculinity-right-young-men.html[/link]

      It keeps happening. Since the ascendance of Donald Trump, with depressing regularity, right-wing men have been outed for using the most vile rhetoric. In private chats and sometimes in full view of the public on social media, theyll engage in blatantly racist, sexist and homophobic speech, flirt with fascist imagery and then often disavow their words and actions the instant theyre caught.
       
      The examples are legion, and theyre not coming from fringe outlets on the American right. For example, last month, the Ron DeSantis campaign [link=https://www.axios.com/2023/07/25/desantis-campaign-video-nazi-symbol-sonnenrad]parted ways[/link] with a young speechwriter named Nate Hochman who reportedly inserted a Nazi [link=https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/sonnenrad]sonnenrad[/link] symbol into a pro-DeSantis video online. Hochman was previously under fire for [link=https://thedispatch.com/article/the-new-right-finds-a-home-at-the/]telling Nick Fuentes[/link], a notorious white supremacist, that Fuentes was probably a better influence than the conservative political commentator Ben Shapiro on young men who might otherwise be conservative.
       
      Was Hochman fringe? Hardly. Before he joined the DeSantis campaign, he worked as a staff writer at National Review and interned at The Dispatch, where I worked as a senior editor before joining The New York Times. He even once [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/01/opinion/republicans-religion-conservatism.html]wrote for The Times[/link].
       

      Hochman is not alone. In June the right-wing publication Breitbart [link=https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/06/27/exclusive-rising-conservative-influencer-pedro-gonzalez-regularly-espoused-racist-and-anti-semitic-sentiments-in-private-messages/]published group chats and private messages[/link] from Pedro Gonzalez, a popular online influencer and DeSantis supporter, which included comments like Whites are the only hope nonwhites have of living civilized lives and The only tactical consideration of Jews is screening them for movements, along with a host of other comments not suitable for a family publication.
       
      This month [link=https://www.huffpost.com/entry/richard-hanania-white-supremacist-pseudonym-richard-hoste_n_64c93928e4b021e2f295e817]HuffPost reported[/link] that Richard Hanania, an influential anti-woke writer, published a series of pseudonymous posts at racist publications in the late 2000s and early 2010s. Just this past May, for example, he [link=https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1657541010745081857?lang=en]posted[/link] in a thread on crime that America needs more policing, incarceration, and surveillance of Black people.

       
      The September issue of The Atlantic contains Graeme Woods [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/09/bronze-age-pervert-costin-alamariu/674762/]fascinating and disturbing profile[/link] of a man named Costin Alamariu, better known online as Bronze Age Pervert, who has a cult following among the young right. Alamariu argues, writes Wood, that the natural and desirable condition of life is the domination of the weak and ugly by the strong and noble. He considers American cities a wasteland run by Jews and Black people, though the words he uses to denote these groups are considerably less genteel than these. (Alamariu has claimed to be Jewish, and Hochman was raised Jewish as well.)
       
      Terrible stuff. And even more terrible is the realization that I could fill this entire column with other examples of right-wing bigotry, from [link=https://www.theamericanconservative.com/thomas-achord-confesses/]Christian[/link] [link=https://religionnews.com/2023/02/22/lutheran-church-missouri-synod-president-calls-for-excommunicating-white-nationalists/]nationalists[/link], a [link=https://twitter.com/EgSophie/status/1347197585686224897?s=20]former Trump speechwriter[/link], a [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/a-daily-caller-editor-wrote-for-an-alt-right-website-using-a-pseudonym/569335/]former Daily Caller editor[/link] and one of [link=https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-tucker-carlson-ap-top-news-media-news-media-acdc9fa8f5cf7010d5f70d8958d47c50]Tucker Carlsons former top writers[/link]. And this is hardly a complete list. The problem is so widespread that Aaron Sibarium, a rising star reporter for The Washington Free Beacon, [link=https://twitter.com/aaronsibarium/status/1686035822850555904?s=20]recently posted[/link], Whenever Im on a career advice panel for young conservatives, I tell them to avoid group chats that use the N-word or otherwise blur the line between edgelording and earnest bigotry.
       
      What is going on? Why are parts of the right especially the young right so infested with outright racists and bigots?
       
      Some readers might respond to my question with a question: Why am I surprised? The right has always been infested with racists and bigots, you might argue. Yet while I freely acknowledge that [link=https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/frenchpress/american-racism-weve-got-so-very/]there was more racism on the right[/link] than I was willing or able to see before the rise of Trump, there has been a distinct change in young right-wing culture. It is dramatically different from what it was when I was in college, in law school and starting my legal career.
       
       
      To fight on the right mainly by trolling on social media or embracing authoritarianism as the based alternative to weak-kneed classical liberalism is seen as strong, courageous and cool. Its a sign of a fierce and independent mind.
       

      Thus, the troll isnt just a troll hes a man. Hes a warrior.

       

       
       

      • satyanar

        Member
        August 13, 2023 at 6:54 am

        Relatively

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        August 15, 2023 at 4:17 am

        Arkansas jumps on the “teaching ignorance” bandwagon.
         
        Keep the students dumb, makes them more malleable. Conservatives just love ignorance.
         
        [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/us/arkansas-college-board-advanced-african-american-studies.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/14/us/arkansas-college-board-advanced-african-american-studies.html[/link]

        In the latest conflict between the College Board and conservative policymakers, the Arkansas Department of Education warned schools on Monday the first day of classes in many districts not to offer Advanced Placement African American Studies.
         
        Like Florida, which refused to approve the class, the department suggested that the course violated state law. In Arkansas, new legislation, passed in March, prohibits teaching that would indoctrinate students with ideologies such as critical race theory.
         

        • alyaa.rifaie_129

          Member
          August 15, 2023 at 8:02 am

          x

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            August 15, 2023 at 8:09 am

            Your article, ixrayu, is from February, 6 mos ago while mine is from yesterday.

            So something changed since February, yes?

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            August 15, 2023 at 8:11 am

            Ah, I see you realized your error, ixrayu, since you deleted your post.

  • amyelizabethbarrett28_711

    Member
    August 14, 2023 at 1:47 pm

    A trans-woman identified biological male set a Canadian women’s powerlifting record at a championship in Manitoba yesterday.

    Anne Andres, who previously mocked female powerlifters, lifted a total of 210lbs more than the strongest female competitor.

    Its odd that this keeps happening when they dont have any true physical advantage, because trans women ARE women

    [link=https://reduxx.info/male-powerlifter-sets-new-womens-record-during-2023-western-canadian-championship/]https://reduxx.info/male-…canadian-championship/[/link]

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 15, 2023 at 4:23 am

      [link=https://www.salon.com/2023/08/14/newest-anti-woke-tantrum-right-wingers-dont-think-kids-of-different-races-can-be-friends/]https://www.salon.com/202…-races-can-be-friends/[/link]
       
      [b]Anti-woke “Mama Bears” group formed to protect children in schools complains about pictures of children of different races holding hands[/b]
       
       
       things started when school trustee Melissa Dungan declared that she had spoken to parents who were upset about “displays of personal ideologies in classrooms.” When pressed for an example, according to the news report, “Dungan referred to a first grade student whose parent claimed they were so upset by a poster showing hands of people of different races, that they transferred classrooms.”
       
      Some other members of the school board did, in fact, argue that there was nothing objectionable about such a poster. But Dungan was backed up by another trustee, Misty Odenweller, who insisted that the depiction of uh, race-mixing was in some way a “violation of the law.” The two women are part of “Mama Bears Rising,” a secretive far-right group fueling the book-banning mania in Conroe and the surrounding area. [link=https://www.khou.com/article/news/investigations/houston-schools-book-bans/285-876f7b82-bb68-4968-80b8-2c43ae26ec24]At least 59 books have been banned[/link] due to their efforts. 
       
      When another trustee asked Dungan if she personally objected to an illustration of cross-racial friendship, she demurred, simply declaring that she was just trying to avoid “situations like that.” Situations like what, exactly? She didn’t say. Dungan’s behavior is a perfect illustration of the “anti-woke” tap dance. The person alleging nefarious wokeness never admits to their own bigotry, instead pretending that they’re reacting to “woke” people who are “pushing” an agenda, in this case through innocuous poster art. Of course, the entire premise of the argument is rooted in bigotry, as this example shows. It presumes that the feelings of real or imagined bigots who might take umbrage at such an image are of paramount importance, and that everyone else’s freedoms must be curtailed to appease them. 
       
      “I wish I was shocked,” Dungan said of the poster. “I am aware these trends have been happening for many years.”
       

      • amyelizabethbarrett28_711

        Member
        August 15, 2023 at 5:53 am

        dergon, you think thats bad? Get a load of what I linked yesterday:

        -New York state representative Charles Barron :

        I have the distinct honor to be able to come before you and say I actually lost white population in my community. They left. They left. I didnt ask him then why. They left. So if you see one or two or three or four or five whites in my neighborhood, theyre passing through.

        *Big applause from the crowd*

        [link=https://twitter.com/endwokeness/status/1690857738056695808?s=46&t=Rf5Slh6vTdZ1HlG6L2Fkcw]https://twitter.com/endwo…Rf5Slh6vTdZ1HlG6L2Fkcw[/link]

        Yeah those people protesting the mixed race people holding hands are racist. But this New York State representative is not, because it is not racist to hate white people.

        • amyelizabethbarrett28_711

          Member
          August 15, 2023 at 6:25 am

          Yeah, Frumi. Critical race theory is much more important for students to learn than advanced placement math/science. Good thing progressive locales are getting rid of the latter in the name of racial equity. (but we all know getting rid of AP math/science increases inequities, because those with resources will find ways for their children to learn these subjects)

          Keep the students dumb, makes them more malleable.

          Well said.

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            August 15, 2023 at 7:04 am

            You cant learn humanities AND math AND science at the same time?
             
            That explains everything.

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            August 15, 2023 at 7:50 am

            Besides, very ironic that the science denier, you, complaining about teaching history interfering with teaching & learning science. Is that what happened?

            • amyelizabethbarrett28_711

              Member
              August 15, 2023 at 10:38 am

              Quote from Frumious

              Besides, very ironic that the science denier, you, complaining about teaching history interfering with teaching & learning science. Is that what happened?

               
              Science denier?  When?  Please cite one specific example.  When I said lockdowns do more harm than good, or when I said paper and cloth masks are useless?  
               
              And when did I complain about teaching history interfering with teaching science?  I said liberals like you are the ones widening the racial education divide by removing AP science/math classes from school in the name of “equity”.

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                August 15, 2023 at 10:43 am

                Climate.
                 
                covid.
                 
                 

                • amyelizabethbarrett28_711

                  Member
                  August 15, 2023 at 11:27 am

                  I said specific. Cite one specific thing about climate change or COVID that I said is false.

  • alyaa.rifaie_129

    Member
    August 15, 2023 at 8:12 am

    Wrong the story was dated today

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 15, 2023 at 8:17 am

      Quote from Ixrayu

      Wrong the story was dated today

      I’ve had that happen recently.   I think websites are recycling old stories and dating them more recently as part of search engine optimization

      • alyaa.rifaie_129

        Member
        August 15, 2023 at 8:21 am

        It is not recycled since there were quotes in the article from ADE officials made on Monday.  – it does not claim what has been posted here. The class is under consideration and it explains more in detail what has occurred. 

        • kayla.meyer_144

          Member
          August 15, 2023 at 8:26 am

          This was ixrayus article dated Feb.

          What am I missing?

          [link=https://arkansasadvocate.com/2023/02/03/teachers-students-voice-support-for-ap-african-american-studies-course/]https://arkansasadvocate….erican-studies-course/[/link]

          • alyaa.rifaie_129

            Member
            August 15, 2023 at 8:45 am

            This is what you are missing
             
            Arkansas education secretary defends AP African American Studies decision [link=https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/local-regional-news/2023-08-15/arkansas-education-secretary-defends-ap-african-american-studies-decision]https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/local-regional-news/2023-08-15/arkansas-education-secretary-defends-ap-african-american-studies-decision
            [/link]
             

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              August 15, 2023 at 8:57 am

              So whats your argument now since you deleted the earlier one, ixrayu?

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 23, 2023 at 8:45 am

    [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/23/gops-anti-woke-campaigns-have-voters-hitting-snooze-00112097]https://www.politico.com/…itting-snooze-00112097[/link]

    [h2]GOPs anti-woke campaigns have voters hitting snooze[/h2] Polls show little support for attacks on corporations handling of environmental and social causes even among Republicans.

    The data comes as candidates who have anchored their campaigns in attacking big business including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy are struggling to gain significant traction against former President Donald Trump, who leads the field by a wide margin in the polls.
    GOP pollsters say the recent data shows that [b]many voters on the right, in line with the traditional conservative ideology, dont want government meddling in business.[/b]

     
     
    Nearly six in 10 voters in the CAP poll hadnt heard of ESG investing, despite the attention its getting from GOP politicians.
     
     
    Republican strategist Ron Bonjean, who has researched GOP voters sentiments on the issue, said lawmakers have squeezed most of the juice that theyre going to be able to get out of corporate wokeism on ESG issues for now.

    Republican voters do not want the federal government punishing companies for making ESG investments, Bonjean said. Why? Because Republicans believe in the free marketplace.

    [/QUOTE]
     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      August 23, 2023 at 10:38 am

      This Lincoln Project animation of the debate is funny. Woke, woke, woke

      [link=https://x.com/projectlincoln/status/1693987082182733955?s=46&t=rWwiVdwocpuvqskgif1xxA]https://x.com/projectlinc…rWwiVdwocpuvqskgif1xxA[/link]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 1, 2023 at 1:34 pm

    [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4181412-texas-federal-judge-halts-states-ban-on-drag-shows/amp/]https://thehill.com/homen…ban-on-drag-shows/amp/[/link]

    Texas federal judge halts states drag ban:

    The Court finds there is a substantial likelihood that S.B. 12 as drafted violates the First Amendment of the United States Constitution under one or more of the legal theories put forward by the Plaintiffs, District Judge David Hittner wrote in his opinion Thursday.

    The law, signed by Gov. Greg Abbott (R) in late June, bans sexually oriented performances that take place in the presence of minors. LGBTQ advocates argued that the bills definition of performances is too broad and unconstitutional.

    Venues that host events in violation of the law could be fined, and performers charged with a misdemeanor.

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    September 6, 2023 at 5:29 am

    At the vigil in Florida about the 3 people, A.J. Laguerre, Angela Michelle Carr, and Jerrald Gallion who were murdered because they were Black, DeSantis said, 
     
    What he did is totally unacceptable in the state of Florida. We are not going to let people be targeted based on their race.
     
    It did not go over well for DeSantis from the people who gathered. But considering DeSantis’ legislation, could a teacher in Florida actually talk and teach their students about the shooting, race hatred & discrimination and violence and DeSantis’s speech without making some of their students “uncomfortable” which is a violation of the law?
     
    One of those laws [link=https://www.aclu.org/cases/pernell-v-lamb?document=notice-appeal-0]is the Stop WOKE Act[/link], which prohibits any instruction that, [link=https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article278582149.html]as the [i]Miami Herald [/i]reported[/link], could prompt students to feel discomfort about a historical event because of their race, ethnicity, sex or national origin. 
     
    Shhh! We don’t, I mean we CAN’T talk about things like that in the classroom.

    • btomba_77

      Member
      September 7, 2023 at 3:51 am

      Trump appointee [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fballotpedia.org%2FBrantley_Starr]U.S. District Judge Brantley Starr[/link], Ken Starr’s nephew, ordered Southwest Airlines attorneys to undergo religious liberty training conducted by the [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediamatters.org%2Falliance-defending-freedom]Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF)[/link], a conservative group that litigates against same-sex marriage, transgender rights and abortion rights.

      The case involved a Southwest flight attendant who sued after she was fired for sending the union president antiabortion messages containing graphic images and a video of aborted fetuses. She sued the airline and the union for religious discrimination after an arbitrator held that Southwest had good cause to fire her.

      _______________________________

      And Judge Starr doubles down.
       
       
       

      [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fopinions%2F2023%2F09%2F01%2Fsouthwest-airlines-judge-trump-indoctrination%2F]Texas judge again orders Southwest lawyers to reeducation camp[/link]

      Starrs order referred to esteemed nonprofit organizations that are dedicated to preserving free speech and religious freedom, but ADF is no neutral, academic entity. It is a full-throated, highly effective combatant in the culture wars, with particular and to many people, particularly offensive views about abortion and LGBTQ+ rights. It argued in favor of criminalizing homosexual conduct and against gays in the military. It litigated cases defending the rights of Christian bakers and website designers to refuse to provide services for same-sex weddings; its in court right now arguing that the abortion drug Mifepristone should be taken off the market.

      Hence Starrs opinion Thursday declining to stay the training order while the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit considers Southwests appeal. Religious liberty training wont harm Southwest, Starr wrote. But staying it will harm the flight attendants who still dont know the truth about the injunction that protects them.

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        September 7, 2023 at 7:12 am

        go get training on religion seems the opposite of freedom.

        • kayla.meyer_144

          Member
          September 7, 2023 at 7:24 am

          Commie re-education camps enter the Conservative solution list.

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