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  • btomba_77

    Member
    December 27, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Quote from DoctorDalai

    The absolute dumbest thing Trump ever did was to not can Comey immediately upon taking office.

    Agree. He could have taken the high ground and claimed it was all because of his poor handling of the Clinton issues.
     
    Once he waited until the heat was on (and after his attempted pressure/coercion had failed) then it had at least [i]the appearance[/i] of impropriety.
     
     

    • ruszja

      Member
      December 27, 2017 at 6:22 pm

      Quote from dergon

      Quote from DoctorDalai

      The absolute dumbest thing Trump ever did was to not can Comey immediately upon taking office.

      Agree. He could have taken the high ground and claimed it was all because of his poor handling of the Clinton issues.

       
      Why give a partisan reason ? Just say that you want to start with a clean slate and that you didn’t have full confidence in Comey. Yes, historically FBI directors have survived changes in presidents, but as Hoover demonstrated there is a big risk associated with doing so.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        December 28, 2017 at 3:14 am

        Quote from fw

        Why give a partisan reason ? Just say that you want to start with a clean slate and that you didn’t have full confidence in Comey. Yes, historically FBI directors have survived changes in presidents, but as Hoover demonstrated there is a big risk associated with doing so.

        Because for Trump it’s all about his ego receiving praise and acclaim from his audience so of course it’s going to be partisan in order to get the most applause from his followers. His whole campaign has been partisan starting from Obama was not born in Hawaii but in Kenya. So like populist authoritarians everywhere, like Hugo Chavez, like Rodrigo Duterte, like even Putin, you play to the audience. There is no being the President of everyone.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 5, 2018 at 2:34 pm

    [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/us/politics/trump-sessions-russia-mcgahn.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news]https://www.nytimes.com/2…ws&WT.nav=top-news[/link]
     
    Turn the heat up a couple of degrees hotter:
     

    Mr. Mueller has also substantiated claims that Mr. Comey made in a series of memos describing troubling interactions with the president before he was fired in May.
     

    The special counsel has received handwritten notes from Mr. Trumps former chief of staff, Reince Priebus, showing that Mr. Trump talked to Mr. Priebus about how he had called Mr. Comey to urge him to say publicly that he was not under investigation. The presidents determination to fire Mr. Comey even led one White House lawyer to take the extraordinary step of misleading Mr. Trump about whether he had the authority to remove him.

    The New York Times has also learned that four days before [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/us/politics/james-comey-fired-fbi.html]Mr. Comey was fired[/link], one of Mr. Sessionss aides asked a congressional staff member whether he had damaging information about Mr. Comey, part of an apparent effort to undermine the F.B.I. director. It was not clear whether Mr. Muellers investigators knew about this episode.
     
    Mr. Mueller has also been examining a false statement that the president reportedly dictated on Air Force One in July in response to an article in The Times about a meeting that Trump campaign officials had with Russians in 2016. A new book, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, by Michael Wolff, says that the presidents lawyers believed that the statement was an explicit attempt to throw sand into the investigations gears, and that it led one of Mr. Trumps spokesmen to quit because he believed it was obstruction of justice.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 23, 2018 at 4:46 am

    [link=https://www.axios.com/scoop-1516661397-877adb3e-5f8d-44a1-8a2f-d4f0894ca6a7.html]FBI Director Wray threatened to resign over Sessions/Trump pressure and moves to remove McCabe[/link]
     

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions at the public urging of President Donald Trump has been pressuring FBI Director Christopher Wray to fire Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, but Wray threatened to resign if McCabe was removed, according to three sources with direct knowledge.
     
    [ul] Wray’s resignation under those circumstances would have created a media firestorm. The White House understandably gun-shy after the Comey debacle didnt want that scene, so McCabe remains. [/ul] [ul]
    [/ul] [ul] Sessions told White House Counsel Don McGahn about how upset Wray was about the pressure on him to fire McCabe, and McGahn told Sessions this issue wasnt worth losing the FBI Director over, according to a source familiar with the situation. [/ul] [ul]
    [/ul] [ul] Why it matters: Trump started his presidency by pressuring one FBI Director (before canning him), and then began pressuring another (this time wanting his deputy canned). This much meddling with the FBI for this long is not normal. [/ul]

    • julie.young_645

      Member
      January 23, 2018 at 7:19 am

      The FBI may have some very serious problems of its own:
       
      [link=https://pjmedia.com/trending/page-strzok-referenced-fbi-secret-society-met-day-election/]https://pjmedia.com/trend…iety-met-day-election/[/link]

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        January 23, 2018 at 7:38 am

        the link you posted read something like [link]https://pjmedia.com/page-strzok-referenced-[/link][b]fbi-secret-society-[/b]-met-day-election 
         
        You had to dig deep for that kind of kookiness.  

        • julie.young_645

          Member
          January 23, 2018 at 7:43 am

          Because PMSNBC and Communist News Network are NEVER going to report it. 

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    January 23, 2018 at 8:07 am

    is Fox reporting on the FBI secret society?

    • btomba_77

      Member
      January 23, 2018 at 8:47 am

      Quote from DICOM_Dan

      is Fox reporting on the FBI secret society?

      You know it. Front page above the  fold on foxnews

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        January 23, 2018 at 9:02 am

        I see it. Is Strzok or page still in the fbi.? Just can them both. Problem solved.

        • julie.young_645

          Member
          January 23, 2018 at 10:55 am

          Those two are just the tip of the iceberg. 

          • kaldridgewv2211

            Member
            January 23, 2018 at 11:01 am

            Quote from DoctorDalai

            Those two are just the tip of the iceberg. 

            because you have some proof of this cabal level secret FBI society that is determined to take down TRump?  If it existed you’d think he’d be an easy mark.  No tax returns, possible money laundering, kids meeting Russians.

            • julie.young_645

              Member
              January 23, 2018 at 12:25 pm

              The Previous Occupant assured Mitt Romney quite loudly and thoroughly that the Russians were nothing to fear. Why don’t you believe him? 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 23, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    [url=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370304-comey-interviewed-in-russia-probe]Comey interviewed by Mueller [/url]

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      January 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm

      I’m guessing you’re talking about the back and forth during 2012. Probably China is number 1. Russia is up there but my general understanding is Russia can’t afford their current efforts(I guess in that sense they’re kind of like us deficit spending).

      [link=http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/22/barack-obama/obama-romney-called-russia-our-top-geopolitical-fo/]http://www.politifact.com…r-top-geopolitical-fo/[/link]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 24, 2018 at 5:12 am

    [b]Trump asked acting FBI director who he voted for[/b]
     
    Shortly after President Trump fired his FBI director in May, he summoned to the Oval Office the bureaus acting director for a get-to-know-you meeting, the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-the-acting-fbi-director-whom-he-voted-for-during-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/23/2cb50818-0073-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_mccabe-815pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0de2ce703aff]Washington Post[/link] reports.
     
    The two men exchanged pleasantries, but before long, Trump, according to several current and former U.S. officials, asked Andrew McCabe a pointed question: Whom did he vote for in the 2016 election?
     
    McCabe said he didnt vote, according to the officials, who like others interviewed for this article requested anonymity to speak candidly about a sensitive matter.
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      January 27, 2018 at 1:32 pm

      [url=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371009-trump-talking-about-firing-rosenstein-report]Trump wants to fire Rosenstein too[/url]

      Four sources told CNN that the president has in recent weeks maintained his frustration with Rosenstein, the No. 2 Justice Department official overseeing the federal Russia probe.

      One source told CNN that Trump has outright called for Rosenstein to be removed, making comments like lets fire him, lets get rid of him” before aides dissuade him from such a move.

      The report comes one day after a bombshell New York Times report revealed that [link=http://thehill.com/homenews/house/370820-dems-seize-on-report-of-effort-to-fire-mueller-to-hammer-trump-over]Trump tried to fire special counsel Robert Mueller[/link] last June before White House counsel Don McGahn refused and threatened to quit, forcing Trump to back down.

      [/QUOTE]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 29, 2018 at 11:13 am

    Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe steps down.
     
    [link=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371216-deputy-fbi-director-mccabe-stepping-down-report]http://thehill.com/homene…e-stepping-down-report[/link]
     
     
    I know he was close to retirement.  I had heard a report that he was only waiting to get vested in the pension program or something like that. 
     
    I wonder if he made it.
     
     

    • yao.bw39_792

      Member
      January 29, 2018 at 11:19 am

      CNN said with accumulated leave he has.
       

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      January 29, 2018 at 11:53 am

      Quote from dergon

      Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe steps down.

      [link=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/371216-deputy-fbi-director-mccabe-stepping-down-report]http://thehill.com/homene…e-stepping-down-report[/link]

      I know he was close to retirement.  I had heard a report that he was only waiting to get vested in the pension program or something like that. 

      I wonder if he made it.

      It also is preposterous to me that he can retire at age 50 with full benefits from the USA.

  • ruszja

    Member
    January 29, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    Quote from DICOM_Dan

    It also is preposterous to me that he can retire at age 50 with full benefits from the USA.

    Should have been fired for cause sometime last year, not given the option to walk away with a full pension.

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      January 29, 2018 at 1:26 pm

      Fired for what “cause?” Insufficient fealty to Trump?

      • btomba_77

        Member
        January 29, 2018 at 2:34 pm

        Historical side note: The deputy FBI director during Watergate, Mark Felt, turned out to be Deep Throat.

        • 100574

          Member
          January 29, 2018 at 4:12 pm

          he should sue–it is against the law to ask who u voted for/personal info

        • 100574

          Member
          January 29, 2018 at 7:23 pm

          Amen
          McCabe -the new witness for obstruction——Trumps just keeps leaving the breadcrumbs and his non enforcement of Russia sanctions looks like a payoff–he is a Russian agent imho
          Carter Page is an idiot imho–I have no doubt a grand jury would indict him
          Mr Trump is head for a forced grand jury interview

          Quote from dergon

          Historical side note: The deputy FBI director during Watergate, Mark Felt, turned out to be Deep Throat.

          • 100574

            Member
            January 29, 2018 at 7:52 pm

            [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/][color=”#001ba0″][b]The Plot Against America[/b] – [b]theatlantic.com[/b][/color][/link][b][/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]

            • ruszja

              Member
              January 30, 2018 at 12:20 am

              Looks like McCabe was going to get demoted once the IG report on the Clinton email thing comes out. Add to that the uncertainty of the suddenly reappeared text messages and he probably figured that jumping ship was the safer option.
               
              He is not going to disappear. A couple of years drawing a salary on K-street and he’ll be back on a political appointment during the Warren/VanHollen administration.
               
               
               

      • btomba_77

        Member
        January 30, 2018 at 9:15 am

        [url=https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/30/slow-motion-saturday-night-massacre/][b]A slow motion Saturday Night Massacre[/b][/url]
         

        President Richard Nixons Nixons firing of special prosecutor Archibald Cox in the Saturday Night Massacre was the turning point in his ultimate downfall. The action was deemed so outrageous that many Republican lawmakers could no longer defend the president.
         
        This time, however, Republicans are helping the president obstruct an investigation. If they cant actually oust Mueller, they can certainly undermine his credibility.
         
        Theyre being assisted by a conservative media that alleges an unfounded Obama-Clinton conspiracy against Trump thats worse than Watergate.

         
        [link=https://www.axios.com/release-the-memo-mueller-russia-effects-552b2b97-93ca-4036-8b36-29aa54cc9b3e.html]Mike Allen[/link] summarizes the end game:
        [blockquote] Trumps allies are betting that when all is said and done and when special counsel Bob Mueller has completed his report the American people will be so thoroughly disgusted with everyone that the political outcome is a wash.
        [/blockquote] Trump and his supporters are betting the American public can be fooled. Our democracy and the rule of law now depends on proving them wrong.
         
         

        • kayla.meyer_144

          Member
          January 30, 2018 at 9:40 am

          Republican’s “Trump card,” to poison the well so badly everyone becomes so sick we all give a free hand to the poisoners.
           
          I think the real purpose is not only to take the football home but to make sure no one can play with the ball anymore as they do their best to destroy the ball. Especially representative government.
           
           

  • btomba_77

    Member
    February 4, 2018 at 11:39 am

    [url=https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/politics/lawsuit-comey-memos-trump-conversations/index.html]Judges denies media organizations’ request to see Comey memos[/url]

    The Justice Department will not have to release memos written by former FBI Director James Comey about conversations he had with President Donald Trump, a federal judge ruled Friday.

    CNN and several other news and advocacy organizations, including USA Today and the Daily Caller, sought the memos and related documents through the court system.

    But Judge James Boasberg of the US District Court for the District of Columbia Circuit said the department and office of the special counsel Robert Muller do not have to turn over the documents at this time.[/QUOTE]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    February 9, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    Rachel Brand , #3 at the FBI and next in line behind Rosenstein on the Russia investigation, announces shes leaving.

    Probably realized she was about to get a career-ending promotion.

    • 100574

      Member
      February 9, 2018 at 6:41 pm

      Hope Hicks should be fired-per report she helped write the Porter response and is dating the guy who has 2 divorces.  When people serve in the WH it is to help America and that should be their one focus–not helping to draft a favorable response for the co-worker that u are dating( as we know in the medical field-relationships with staff/patients is a barrier that should not be crossed–a sterile field should be maintained)
      -this is the second time for her to not be focused on the WH( Fire and Fury when she wanted Corey another guy she was with to get more favorable press)
      also it appears that Ivanka’s vetting process is very off

      Quote from dergon

      Rachel Brand , #3 at the FBI and next in line behind Rosenstein on the Russia investigation, announces shes leaving.

      Probably realized she was about to get a career-ending promotion.

  • 100574

    Member
    February 9, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    If they had any dignity-they would resign tonight:-Hicks/Kelly and WH counsel

    • btomba_77

      Member
      February 12, 2018 at 11:00 am

      Quote from dergon

      Rachel Brand , #3 at the FBI and next in line behind Rosenstein on the Russia investigation, announces shes leaving.

      Probably realized she was about to get a career-ending promotion.

       
      As speculated… she didn’t want to end up in charge of the Russia investigation:

      Associate Attorney General Rachel Brand had been unhappy with her job for months before the department announced her departure on Friday, [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/justice-department-official-brand-leaves-partly-over-fear-she-might-n847156]NBC News[/link] reports.

      Brand grew frustrated by vacancies at the department and fear she would be asked to oversee the Russia investigation As far back as last fall, Brand had expressed to friends that she felt overwhelmed and unsupported in her job, especially as many key positions under her jurisdiction had still not been filled with permanent, Senate-confirmed officials.

      • ruszja

        Member
        February 12, 2018 at 11:48 am

        An offer for a seat on the board of Walmart doesnt come around every day. She mostly bounced around appointed DC positions, didnt really have any fed time to speak of. If someone offered me that position, it would take me about 30 seconds to say yes.

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          February 12, 2018 at 12:59 pm

          hard to imagine someone getting a really good gig in the private sector after leaving government.  

          • btomba_77

            Member
            February 12, 2018 at 1:55 pm

            Quote from DICOM_Dan

            hard to imagine someone getting a really good gig in the private sector after leaving government.  

             
            That’s what they all do.
             
            They get sweetheart jobs in the private sector and then turn around and use their governmental connections to lobby on behalf of their corporate employer.

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              February 12, 2018 at 2:10 pm

              Yup.  That was me being sarcastic.  Although it seems now like the current admin is using their government position to make money for their private sector business.  Trump Hotel, Trump golf, Trump-a-lago.  Like man those republicans sure are conservative with money.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    February 14, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    Former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus confirms to [link=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/reince-priebus-opens-up-about-his-six-months-of-magical-thinking]Vanity Fair[/link] the medias portrayal of a White House in disarray and riven by conflict: Take everything youve heard and multiply it by 50.

    Heres how he describes the aftermath of President Trumps firing of FBI Director James Comey:

    While Priebus and Bannon watched the fiasco explode as the pundits excoriated the Trump White House on every cable news show, Kushner did a slow burn. He was livid, furious that the communications team could not defend Comeys firing. Bannon blew his stack. Theres not a fucking thing you can do to sell this!, he shouted at Kushner. [i]Nobody[/i] can sell this! [i]P. T. Barnum[/i] couldnt sell this! People arent stupid! This is a terrible, stupid decision thats going to have massive implications. It may have shortened Trumps presidencyand its because of [i]you, Jared Kushner![/i]

    The screaming matches and white-knuckle showdowns continued. Eight days later, Priebus got an unexpected visit from the White House counsela story he has not told publicly before. Don McGahn came in my office pretty hot, red, out of breath, and said, Weve got a problem. I responded, What? And he said, Well, we just got a special counsel, and [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions just resigned. I said, [i]What!?[/i] What the hell are you talking about?

    [/QUOTE]

    • heenadevk1119_462

      Member
      February 14, 2018 at 6:43 pm

      Yet, Trump keeps winning.
       
      And you keep posting, with more nothing burgers. Great stuff, guys.

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        February 14, 2018 at 6:56 pm

        If you mean winning like when Charlie Sheen was winning. Yeah I could see that. They both act pretty crazy

      • 100574

        Member
        February 14, 2018 at 7:38 pm

        Winning???-18th school shooting

        Quote from Dr. ****er

        Yet, Trump keeps winning.

        And you keep posting, with more nothing burgers. Great stuff, guys.

    • Unknown Member

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      February 14, 2018 at 7:48 pm

      Quote from dergon

      Former White House chief of staff Reince Priebus confirms to [link=https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/02/reince-priebus-opens-up-about-his-six-months-of-magical-thinking]Vanity Fair[/link] the medias portrayal of a White House in disarray and riven by conflict: Take everything youve heard and multiply it by 50.

      Heres how he describes the aftermath of President Trumps firing of FBI Director James Comey:

      While Priebus and Bannon watched the fiasco explode as the pundits excoriated the Trump White House on every cable news show, Kushner did a slow burn. He was livid, furious that the communications team could not defend Comeys firing. Bannon blew his stack. Theres not a ****ing thing you can do to sell this!, he shouted at Kushner. [i]Nobody[/i] can sell this! [i]P. T. Barnum[/i] couldnt sell this! People arent stupid! This is a terrible, stupid decision thats going to have massive implications. It may have shortened Trumps presidencyand its because of [i]you, Jared Kushner![/i]

      The screaming matches and white-knuckle showdowns continued. Eight days later, Priebus got an unexpected visit from the White House counsela story he has not told publicly before. Don McGahn came in my office pretty hot, red, out of breath, and said, Weve got a problem. I responded, What? And he said, Well, we just got a special counsel, and [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions just resigned. I said, [i]What!?[/i] What the hell are you talking about?

      [/QUOTE]

      Yes this is all incredibly important to the state of the union.  A screaming match in the White House.  I’m sure
      that has never happened before.  Although there are rumors that Hilary may have slightly raised her voice to Bill
      regarding his propensity for rape.  While you a wealthy physician have the luxury of spending your day being entertained
      by these meaningless stories, the vast majority of Americans have more important concerns.  Democrats apparently
      have not learned their lesson.  The majority of Americans don’t concern themselves with transgender bathrooms one way
      or another.  The issues that middle class Americans concern themselves with are quite simple.  And while you pat yourself
      on the back for posting some quotes from a Vanity Fair article, I would bet that most couldn’t care less.  When you get to the hospital tomorrow show these quotes to the techs, security and housekeeping staff and you will realize how out of touch you have become with middle class Americans. I personally employ a lot of people unlike you.  I listen to their concerns and their concerns are not your concerns.  They don’t have the luxury of hoping this administration fails like you. The democratic party needs to focus on the issues that concern the majority of US citizens.  Maybe they should spend a little less time praying for the failure of the current administration. The democrats can’t seem to make up their minds.  The Russians influenced the outcome of our election because Americans believe anything they read on Facebook.  But somehow Hilary had more of the popular vote than Trump.  

  • btomba_77

    Member
    February 14, 2018 at 7:56 pm

    Touch a nerve, did I?

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      February 14, 2018 at 8:21 pm

      It’s not about failure but accountability. He’s the POTUS and he’s running a circus. People wanted HRC strung out for the email server, yet 130 people in Trumps cabinet don’t have full security clearance and are working in the White House. That’s actually going on right now and I don’t see the Fox outrage.

    • Unknown Member

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      February 14, 2018 at 8:39 pm

      Quote from dergon

      Touch a nerve, did I?

      Not at all.  Just wanted you to take a step away from
      your ivory tower and realize that most of the country
      couldn’t give a $hit about the meaningless posts you think
      are so important.  

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      February 14, 2018 at 10:57 pm

      Quote from dergon

      Touch a nerve, did I?

      Dude, you literally fill out every nook and cranny of the out-of-touch-academic stereotype. SWPLs like you are pretty much a dime a dozen in medicine, which is why your political views aren’t surprising. 

      • Unknown Member

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        February 15, 2018 at 9:15 am

        Quote from Jan the Third

        Quote from dergon

        Touch a nerve, did I?

        Dude, you literally fill out every nook and cranny of the out-of-touch-academic stereotype. [b]SWPLs[/b] like you are pretty much a dime a dozen in medicine, which is why your political views aren’t surprising. 

         
        Dude, that is so 2012.  The preferred nomenclature in 2018 is “Swippie”, or “Swipple”.  
         
        /get with it.

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      February 15, 2018 at 3:26 am

      Quote from dergon

      Touch a nerve, did I?

      Like Sarah’s Palin’s opinion that “real Americans” have concerns that are more important concerns than good government.
       
      But there is a diversity of technologists and staff in America especially in NYC who are concerned with the kind of bankrupt government this Administration is selling and do know the difference.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        February 15, 2018 at 7:33 am

         The democrats can’t seem to make up their minds.  The Russians influenced the outcome of our election because Americans believe anything they read on Facebook.  But somehow Hilary had more of the popular vote than Trump.

         
        You realize that those two things are not mutually exclusive right?
         
        The Russians could have influenced the election (they did) [b]and[/b] Hillary could have gotten more of the popular vote (she did).

        • kayla.meyer_144

          Member
          February 15, 2018 at 8:29 am

          Interesting quote from Bannon about Golden Globe awards regarding #MeeToo movement:
           

          Its a Cromwell moment! Its even more powerful than populism. Its deeper. Its primal. Its elemental. The long black dresses and all thatthis is the Puritans! Its anti-patriarchy.

           
          This would fit right in with comments about women by Trump, Bannon & several AM Trumpets, fear of the “lesser” sex taking over & gelding men.

          • Unknown Member

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            February 15, 2018 at 8:32 am

            Have Bannon, Trump, or any “AM Trumpets” actually referred to women as the lesser sex? Because that’s what you imply what you use quotation marks in this context.

            Or, you could just be lying. Again.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              February 15, 2018 at 8:39 am

              The use of a quotation around a single word is not necessarily a grammatical notation of a word-for-word direct quote.
               
              Quotation marks may also be appropriately  used to imply that a word is being used in a non-standard manner, such as to imply sarcasm or irony.    
               
              The latter is the intent in Fumious’ post.
               
               
               
               

              • Unknown Member

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                February 15, 2018 at 12:50 pm

                Quote from dergon

                The use of a quotation around a single word is not necessarily a grammatical notation of a word-for-word direct quote.

                Quotation marks may also be appropriately  used to imply that a word is being used in a non-standard manner, such as to imply sarcasm or irony.    

                The latter is the intent in Fumious’ post.

                The juxtaposition of the word in quotation marks with reference to specific posters implies a direct quote – or, at least, expression of similar sentiments.
                 
                It wouldn’t be the first time Frumious has out-and-out [b][i]lied [/i][/b]on the forum. 

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          February 15, 2018 at 9:29 am

          The Russians could have influenced the election ([b]they did[/b])
          Interesting sentence[b] could have and they did.[/b]
           
          Proof?

          • btomba_77

            Member
            February 15, 2018 at 10:11 am

            The congressional testimony of: Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, CIA director Mike Pompeo, FBI director Christopher Wray, Defense Intelligence Agency director Lt. Gen. Robert Ashley, National Security Agency director Adm. Mike Rogers, and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency director Robert Cardillo.
             
             
            … and those are just current Trump appointees.  There are also inumerable prior Intel heads who have sword to the same.

            • ruszja

              Member
              February 15, 2018 at 10:21 am

              Quote from dergon

              The congressional testimony of: Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, CIA director Mike Pompeo, FBI director Christopher Wray, Defense Intelligence Agency director Lt. Gen. Robert Ashley, National Security Agency director Adm. Mike Rogers, and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency director Robert Cardillo.

              … and those are just current Trump appointees.  There are also inumerable prior Intel heads who have sword to the same.

               
              Yet none of them delivered any evidence that there was actual russian influence on the election. Intelligence gathering is not about effecting prosecutions, there is no information that needs to be protected to ensure prosecutions. If the intelligence agencies have evidence that russian actors affected the last US election, it is their duty to make that information public so steps can be taken to eliminate that influence in upcoming elections. The fact that they did not provide that intelligence strongly suggests that they dont have any.

              • btomba_77

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                February 16, 2018 at 11:06 am

                Quote from fw

                Yet none of them delivered any evidence that there was actual russian influence on the election. Intelligence gathering is not about effecting prosecutions, there is no information that needs to be protected to ensure prosecutions. If the intelligence agencies have evidence that russian actors affected the last US election, it is their duty to make that information public so steps can be taken to eliminate that influence in upcoming elections. The fact that they did not provide that intelligence strongly suggests that they dont have any.

                 
                [url=https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/16/russians-indicted-in-special-counsel-robert-muellers-probe.html]Multiple Russians indicted in Mueller probe over US election interference[/url]
                 
                 

                Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office said Friday that a grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities for alleged interference in the 2016 presidential elections, during which they boosted the candidacy of Donald Trump.
                 
                The indictment says that the defendants by early to mid-2016 were “supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump … and disparaging Hillary Clinton.”
                 
                An announcement from Mueller’s office said that the government accuses all the defendants of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
                 
                Three defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft.

                • 100574

                  Member
                  February 16, 2018 at 11:08 am

                  as we move toward Jared

                  • 100574

                    Member
                    February 16, 2018 at 11:36 am

                    we got a fake Russian President folks–dumb white voters

                  • 100574

                    Member
                    February 16, 2018 at 11:36 am

                    we got a fake Russian President folks–dumb white voters

                    • 100574

                      Member
                      February 16, 2018 at 12:15 pm

                      an American has just pled guilty for fake id

            • Unknown Member

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              February 15, 2018 at 3:24 pm

              Quote from dergon

              The congressional testimony of: Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, CIA director Mike Pompeo, FBI director Christopher Wray, Defense Intelligence Agency director Lt. Gen. Robert Ashley, National Security Agency director Adm. Mike Rogers, and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency director Robert Cardillo.

              … and those are just current Trump appointees.  There are also inumerable prior Intel heads who have sword to the same.

              So when you stated that the Russians influenced our election “[b]they did[/b]”, that was based on no strong evidence.
              Just your opinion which must be correct.
              Great, so I guess we finally all agree on something.  There is no evidence to date.

  • kayla.meyer_144

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    February 15, 2018 at 9:24 am

    Amusing Jan calling dergon a swipple while bemoaning the all the nonEuropean-looking immigrants coming into the US as a primary reason for his support of Trump.
     
    Too bad he’s missing that he is part of his own joke, right over his head.

    • Unknown Member

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      February 15, 2018 at 1:01 pm

      Quote from Frumious

      Amusing Jan calling dergon a swipple while bemoaning the all the nonEuropean-looking immigrants coming into the US as a primary reason for his support of Trump.

      Too bad he’s missing that he is part of his own joke, right over his head.

      You clearly have no idea what a SWPL is. A SWPL is a Leftist White who tends to live on the border between homogeneity and “diversity” – think the hipster parts of Brooklyn (or, in this case, a no-doubt affluent part of Cleveland) – White/East-Asian enough for the SWPL to feel comfortable with his/her neighbors, but close enough to “diversity” for the SWPL to tout his/her tolerant Leftist [i]bona fides[/i]. The SWPL tends to overspend on coffee and shop organic. The male SWPL tends to have arms with non-discernible musculature. Female SWPLs often have dogs or cats starting in their early-mid 20s, and these pets serve as surrogates for actual children until said SWPL wakes up to her biological urges at, say, 27.  SWPLs tend to be more educated, but most certainly not wiser, than non-SWPLs. Above all, SWPLs almost invariably have insufferable senses of arrogance and infallibility WRT their sociopolitical views, considering all those who differ substantially as being immoral and uncouth.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    February 15, 2018 at 11:47 am

    I would also very much like to see a public airing of the evidence… and a set of recommendations based on it.
     
     
    That’s why we need a 9/11 -style independent commission to write a full report.
     
     

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      February 15, 2018 at 12:21 pm

      These are the same people who believe there is no evidence for global warming, dergon, whether anthropogenic or “natural.”
       
      Next we have to prove the moon landing was real & not a shoot on a Hollywood backlot. That moon dust? HA! Just dust.
       
       

    • ruszja

      Member
      February 15, 2018 at 3:31 pm

      Quote from dergon

      I would also very much like to see a public airing of the evidence… and a set of recommendations based on it.

      That’s why we need a 9/11 -style independent commission to write a full report.

       
      Why would you want to drag this out with a politicized commission ?
       
      Just have the agencies put out the information on where and how ‘the russians’ influenced the election. It’s not that hard. Just publicize the information, there is no reason this needs to be kept locked away as classified information.
       
      The other possibility is that there is actually no evidence beyond a couple of dinky ad buys on facebook and the fact that RT was as a megaphone for the astroturf BLM movement. There is some information I would like to see brought out to the light of day, e.g. who paid for the violent hooligans to be shipped around the country to create violence at anti-police demonstrations ?

      • 100574

        Member
        February 15, 2018 at 3:47 pm

        Stevie B has being talking to Mueller-tick tock tick tock–Ms Hicks would u like to change your prior statements

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