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CNBC is showing a Madoff miniseries( Monday and Tuesday)–and it shows all the tricks he did to get away with it( selling the con–like the Don –he would haul out papers, have fake computer data)–
I remember at a Trump rally he was saying Hillary will say see u in 4 years suckers–of course we are all aware of his projection techniques by now and it’s his supporters who he was referring to as suckers and as he said[b] u let the snake in[/b]-
David Brooks shows his admiration of President Trump and his intellect and accomplishments. And this is the 3rd time I’ve read about the Dunning-Kruger effect in relation to Trump in the past week.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/opinion/trump-classified-data.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…p-classified-data.html[/link]
At certain times Donald Trump has seemed like a budding authoritarian, a corrupt Nixon, a rabble-rousing populist or a big business corporatist.
At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.
He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence.
He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trumps telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.
Which brings us to the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.ebeceb3a02d7]reports that Trump betrayed[/link] an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a 7-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.
The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.
We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him, David Roberts [link=https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/12/15621140/interpret-trump]writes in Vox[/link]. It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if theres nothing to understand? What if there is no [i]there[/i] there?
[b]Weve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.[/b]
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the sad part with Madoff is that he would have still been going if the crash had not happened
with Trump–I feel the electorate college let us down–would you let an electrician do your open heart bypass–
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David Brooks shows his admiration of President Trump and his intellect and accomplishments. And this is the 3rd time I’ve read about the Dunning-Kruger effect in relation to Trump in the past week.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/opinion/trump-classified-data.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…p-classified-data.html[/link]
At certain times Donald Trump has seemed like a budding authoritarian, a corrupt Nixon, a rabble-rousing populist or a big business corporatist.
At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.
He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence.
He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trumps telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.
Which brings us to the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.ebeceb3a02d7]reports that Trump betrayed[/link] an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a 7-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.
The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.
We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him, David Roberts [link=https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/12/15621140/interpret-trump]writes in Vox[/link]. It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if theres nothing to understand? What if there is no [i]there[/i] there?
[b]Weve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.[/b]
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I feel the electorate college let us down
They voted for the person that won their state. That’s how it should be. Trump is in there because people voted for him.
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their job is to not be blinded by populism–it was a system born out of slavery –this last election was a modern day test and they failed
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Quote from sentinel lymph node
I feel the electorate college let us down
They voted for the person that won their state. That’s how it should be. Trump is in there because people voted for him.
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If they can do whatever they wanted John Kasich should be president. Best candidate that ran period. as Spicer would put it.
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The Trump supporters rejected him–he never shined during the debates
but Comey has made the drip drip drip into gush gush gush–
Flynn was a vital asset for Russia–a general on their side–they could probably have retaken Ukraine–so due to the checks and balances of our system I am quite happy that he was taken out quick and I hope the legal system/military dealt him an earth shaking blowQuote from DICOM_Dan
If they can do whatever they wanted John Kasich should be president. Best candidate that ran period. as Spicer would put it.
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so the Russians say oh it was not classified info–this is such a joke–they see the cracks in their infiltration
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Apparently the idea to Trumpify James Bond movies was on the twitter.
“From Russia, with favorable business opportunities”.
[link=https://www.someecards.com/news/politics/donald-trump-james-bond-twitter-bondtrumpbond-hashtag/]https://www.someecards.co…bondtrumpbond-hashtag/[/link]
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lol–thanks for sharing
did u see the sign bankrupt casino royaleQuote from DICOM_Dan
Apparently the idea to Trumpify James Bond movies was on the twitter.
“From Russia, with favorable business opportunities”.
[link=https://www.someecards.com/news/politics/donald-trump-james-bond-twitter-bondtrumpbond-hashtag/]https://www.someecards.co…bondtrumpbond-hashtag/[/link]
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the Trump train heads to Israel with all the dysfunction–Israel here we come–what could possibly go wrong
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Issa gives report the finger. Other GOP politicians are less than informative.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/republicans-extreme-frustration-with-trump-in-one-congressmans-middle-finger/]https://www.washingtonpos…essmans-middle-finger/[/link]
[blockquote] I just asked [link=https://twitter.com/DarrellIssa]@DarrellIssa[/link] abt the Comey news and he flicked me off — literally gave me the middle finger — and kept walking. Said nothing
Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) [link=https://twitter.com/rachaelmbade/status/864608676740554752]May 16, 2017[/link]
[/blockquote]As Issas middle finger so fantastically illustrates, this week is a tough one in the Trump-Congress relationship. It [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/president-trumps-defenders-on-capitol-hill-are-wavering/]marks the first time[/link] in Trumps still-nascent administration that he has virtually no Republican supporters on Capitol Hill in his latest controversies. A sizable number of Republicans in Congress supported him on his travel bans and his decision to fire Comey (and not immediately fire Flynn). But on the latest revelations, they just cant find a way to justify their president’s actions.
4 months into the Trump Administration & GOP even talking about removal, “impeachment” by another name. Ross Douthat calls it the “25th Amendment Solution.” Calls support for Trump the equivalent of support “for a syphilitic emperor.”
WOW. Yesterday the Child-King, today the “syphilitic emperor” by right-wing pundits.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/opinion/25th-amendment-trump.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…h-amendment-trump.html[/link]
Read the things that these people, members of his inner circle, his personally selected appointees, say daily through anonymous quotations to the press. (And I assure you they say worse off the record.) They have no respect for him, indeed they seem to palpate with contempt for him, and to regard their mission as equivalent to being stewards for a syphilitic emperor.
It is not squishy New York Times conservatives who regard the president as a child, an intellectual void, a hopeless case, [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/white-house-staff.html]a threat to national security[/link]; it is people who are [link=http://theresurgent.com/i-know-one-of-the-sources/]self-selected loyalists[/link], who supported him in the campaign, who daily go to work for him. And all this, [i]in the fourth month of his administration.[/i]
[i]Meanwhile, from the perspective of the Republican leaderships duty to their country, and indeed to the world that our imperium bestrides, leaving a man this witless and unmastered in an office with these powers and responsibilities is an act of gross negligence, which no objective on the near-term political horizon seems remotely significant enough to justify.[/i][i]
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Issa gives report the finger. Other GOP politicians are less than informative.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/republicans-extreme-frustration-with-trump-in-one-congressmans-middle-finger/]https://www.washingtonpos…essmans-middle-finger/[/link]
[blockquote]I just asked [link=https://twitter.com/DarrellIssa]@DarrellIssa[/link] abt the Comey news and he flicked me off — literally gave me the middle finger — and kept walking. Said nothing
Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) [link=https://twitter.com/rachaelmbade/status/864608676740554752]May 16, 2017[/link]
[/blockquote]As Issas middle finger so fantastically illustrates, this week is a tough one in the Trump-Congress relationship. It [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/president-trumps-defenders-on-capitol-hill-are-wavering/]marks the first time[/link] in Trumps still-nascent administration that he has virtually no Republican supporters on Capitol Hill in his latest controversies. A sizable number of Republicans in Congress supported him on his travel bans and his decision to fire Comey (and not immediately fire Flynn). But on the latest revelations, they just cant find a way to justify their president’s actions.
4 months into the Trump Administration & GOP even talking about removal, “impeachment” by another name. Ross Douthat calls it the “25th Amendment Solution.” Calls support for Trump the equivalent of support “for a syphilitic emperor.”
WOW. Yesterday the Child-King, today the “syphilitic emperor” by right-wing pundits.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/opinion/25th-amendment-trump.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…h-amendment-trump.html[/link]
Read the things that these people, members of his inner circle, his personally selected appointees, say daily through anonymous quotations to the press. (And I assure you they say worse off the record.) They have no respect for him, indeed they seem to palpate with contempt for him, and to regard their mission as equivalent to being stewards for a syphilitic emperor.
It is not squishy New York Times conservatives who regard the president as a child, an intellectual void, a hopeless case, [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/white-house-staff.html]a threat to national security[/link]; it is people who are [link=http://theresurgent.com/i-know-one-of-the-sources/]self-selected loyalists[/link], who supported him in the campaign, who daily go to work for him. And all this, [i]in the fourth month of his administration.[/i]
[i]Meanwhile, from the perspective of the Republican leaderships duty to their country, and indeed to the world that our imperium bestrides, leaving a man this witless and unmastered in an office with these powers and responsibilities is an act of gross negligence, which no objective on the near-term political horizon seems remotely significant enough to justify.[/i]
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Comey’s dad says Donald is “nuts”–he was crazy before he became president–now he’s really crazy
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I remember all the GOP hate on President Obama
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Your ridiculous. He did no such thing. He had to bend down so the king could put the gold medal around his neck. He never bowed.
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You have a short memory ixrayu. Obama endured years of ridicule from right wing nut media even thought Bush bowed before Obama.
[link=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/]http://www.washingtontime…07/barack-takes-a-bow/[/link]
[link=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/a-not-so-brief-list-of-all-the-things-president-obama-has-bowed-to/361160/]https://www.theatlantic.c…a-has-bowed-to/361160/[/link]
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I you can’t say “YES” to whether you trust Trump’s judgement – the answer is likely, “HELL NO!”
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-in-congress-struggle-with-this-question-do-you-trust-trumps-judgment/2017/05/24/d9a7cdd0-402a-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html]https://www.washingtonpos…ac8b446820a_story.html[/link]
Its a simple question, but for Republicans in Congress, its not an easy one.
Do you trust President Trumps judgment on major decisions?
Im not answering questions like that, said Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) after hopping off an underground tram shuttling him from the Capitol to his Senate office building. Thats ah … he trailed off as he walked toward an elevator.
Flake was one of a dozen Republicans from across the ideological spectrum asked this week to reflect on Trumps judgment. Most of them werent eager to address the subject head-on. They diverted and demurred. They paused contemplatively before answering. Some grew visibly uncomfortable. Others declared their conviction in Trump but then qualified their words or expressed confidence in the people around him. Only one of those interviewed Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) offered an unqualified yes regarding Trump himself.
This wavering confidence, and perhaps loyalty, comes after a torrent of controversial decisions by the president and explosive revelations regarding the ongoing investigations into possible coordination between Trump associates and Russia. It also comes amid signs that members of Trumps own administration dont fully trust the presidents decisions.
When Trump revealed highly classified information to two Russian officials in the Oval Office earlier this month, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency, [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.ee86adae1b6f]according to a Washington Post report earlier this month.[/link]
And when Trump asked the director of national intelligence, Daniel Coats, and Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election, both refused deeming the appeal inappropriate, according to [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-intelligence-chiefs-to-push-back-against-fbi-collusion-probe-after-comey-revealed-its-existence/2017/05/22/394933bc-3f10-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.8b0c8efee710]another Post report this week[/link].
After chewing over the question of whether he trusted Trumps judgment on big domestic and national security decisions as he descended an escalator, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) used this strategy.
He has the responsibility and so therefore, ah, I respect the result of the election. I respect the constitutional authority that he has.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) took a similar approach in a conversation with reporters a few steps from the Senate chamber.
Do you trust the presidents judgment right now on big national security decisions, big domestic policy decisions, in light of all of these revelations? one asked.
Well, hes president of the United States, the second-ranking Republican replied. He won the election and hes entitled to make those decisions. Ah, we need to try to work with him and I am to try to help him be successful.
The question led some GOP lawmakers to fall back on familiar talking points: Hes different. His campaign was different. His presidency is different.
But its starting to sound more like a disavowal and less like a defense.
Is he an unconventional politician? Yes, he is. Thats why people chose him. They didnt want traditional politicians to get elected, said Cornyn, the Senate Republican whip.
He added: So, they got what they voted for.
“They got what they voted for.”
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Wow stop the presses! 12 republicans makes it fact. Thanks for sharing this useless left wing propaganda.
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Make of it what you will, whistle past the graveyard, but they are some of the GOP leadership. If the leadership isn’t clearly behind Trump he’s got issues.
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Interesting Trump notes I’m seeing. In talks with Philippines Dueterte he basically said the Dueterte is doing a good job on the drug war, AKA extrajudicial killings. He also gave him location of 2 US subs which is something that is not ever talked about. Your WTF of the moment brought to you by DJT.
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bowed with a bad sprAy tan–like would u called it in black face
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Your ridiculous. He did no such thing. He had to bend down so the king could put the gold medal around his neck. He never bowed.
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even Roger Stone tweeted this pic makes him puke
GOP white hypocrites–U reap what U sowQuote from Ixrayu
Your ridiculous. He did no such thing. He had to bend down so the king could put the gold medal around his neck. He never bowed.
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Frumi
Where did I say anything about Obama or Bush bowing? I simply responded the SLN is posting statements that are not true.
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he bowed and then he danced
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Frumi
Where did I say anything about Obama or Bush bowing? I simply responded the SLN is posting statements that are not true.
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This speech he gave in Saudi Arabia appears well delivered and thoughtful. However, it’s Trump. So let’s see what he actually delivers.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-and-gulf-nations-agree-to-crack-down-on-terror-financing/2017/05/21/e1222b34-3dfd-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.16d549b3dea8]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.16d549b3dea8[/link]
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seemed very sedated–reading off a teleprompter–very very basic good vs evil
but these orb pic makes me laugh at the Trump voter–a sucker is born every day–the illuminati conspirators are having a field day on the internet with this pic
grab it with a short vulgarian handQuote from DICOM_Dan
This speech he gave in Saudi Arabia appears well delivered and thoughtful. However, it’s Trump. So let’s see what he actually delivers.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/us-and-gulf-nations-agree-to-crack-down-on-terror-financing/2017/05/21/e1222b34-3dfd-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.16d549b3dea8]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.16d549b3dea8[/link]
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well exhausted Don veered off his teleprompter script and is canceling events–he said HRC did not have the stamina–I guess after all that bowing and dancing what should the far right Trump base expect–I recall his see u in 4 years suckers–u let the snake in
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offended–is there a reason why the Trump woman wore all black to meet the pope–in Israel Melania was in white–like is the Catholic church in mourning to have Trump there–and then at the end Trump tried to power shake the pope–thank goodness that one of the cardinals did that to him as he left
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Oh you mean like Michelle did. Were you offended then? Let me educate you. Vatican protocol is women in black long sleeves and head cover. Men in suits w ties w jacket buttoned (which at one point POTUS jacket was not ).
As for white in Saudi perhaps because it was 110 degrees? One of the psychology of white can also symbolize new beginnings, wiping the slate clean. Or perhaps she just happened to like it.
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still does not explain the creepy headware the trumps had on–Michelle kept it simple
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Oh you mean like Michelle did. Were you offended then? Let me educate you. Vatican protocol is women in black long sleeves and head cover. Men in suits w ties w jacket buttoned (which at one point POTUS jacket was not ).
As for white in Saudi perhaps because it was 110 degrees? One of the psychology of white can also symbolize new beginnings, wiping the slate clean. Or perhaps she just happened to like it.
[image]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/cnrward/Ethnic/610x-119.jpg[/image]
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Oh so now you are the grand poo bah of fashion. I never realized a veil is hardware. Please tell me more Mr Grand Poo Bah of Fasion.
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not quite correct
a very select handful of women have “privilege du blanc” or privilege of the white–which means they can wear white( Catholic royal houses–grand Duchesses of luxembourg, the queens of Italy, Belgium and Spain, Pricessess of the house of Savoy)Quote from Ixrayu
Oh you mean like Michelle did. Were you offended then? Let me educate you. Vatican protocol is women in black long sleeves and head cover. Men in suits w ties w jacket buttoned (which at one point POTUS jacket was not ).
As for white in Saudi perhaps because it was 110 degrees? One of the psychology of white can also symbolize new beginnings, wiping the slate clean. Or perhaps she just happened to like it.
[image]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/cnrward/Ethnic/610x-119.jpg[/image]
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notice the lack of warmth/connection
just gloomQuote from Ixrayu
Oh you mean like Michelle did. Were you offended then? Let me educate you. Vatican protocol is women in black long sleeves and head cover. Men in suits w ties w jacket buttoned (which at one point POTUS jacket was not ).
As for white in Saudi perhaps because it was 110 degrees? One of the psychology of white can also symbolize new beginnings, wiping the slate clean. Or perhaps she just happened to like it.
[image]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j4/cnrward/Ethnic/610x-119.jpg[/image]
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There’s a little video clip from him at this NATO meeting. He looks like he pushes someone out of the way so he can be in front for a photo. Will the Trump biography be called ‘A Touch of Class’ or ‘A Touch of @$$’?
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Court upholds black on Trump’s ban–state of MD–land of Rosenstein
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Reince, Bannon, Jared and Ivanka have left him–he is out to play–Only Don feels should be in front of the cameras
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There’s a little video clip from him at this NATO meeting. He looks like he pushes someone out of the way so he can be in front for a photo. Will the Trump biography be called ‘A Touch of Class’ or ‘A Touch of @$$’?
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Dude –he bowed down like a slave–he looks really old and WEAK with a bad spray–Comey’s dad was like “Crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy”!
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Your ridiculous. He did no such thing. He had to bend down so the king could put the gold medal around his neck. He never bowed.
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McCaster in rome has gone to the dark side –he is all in–like a kid in a candy store–gee i can’t believe i am here
Gowdy–got slammed –Brenn was like stay in your lane and be appropriate
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Queen Elizabeth II wore lavender after Pope Frances relaxed dress code
and she let go of the tiara
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of course he had to act out yesterday and throw shade by per report he called Germans evil–no probably just very angry at Merkle –who spoke first and she had been with President Obama earlier–so he lashed out
Trump is jealous. He needs to be noticed above all others, why he shoved aside the prime minister of Montenegro, Dusko Markovic so Trump could stand in front to look like a leader in his own eyes. Instead he just looked like an entitled line-cutter.
Merkel announces that America is not a reliable partner and leader anymore, that Europe has to rely on itself for leadership now, thanks to the Donald.
Putin is succeeding in undermining American leadership thanks to his puppet Trump.
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Seriously Noah? Pro-Bernie? The man stated violent opposition to circumcision so that alone makes the Bernie support suspect, not to mention his statement, “If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS to put an end to Monotheist Question. All Zionist Jews, All Christians who do not follow Christ’s teaching of Love, Charity, and Forgiveness And All Jihadi Muslims are going to Madagascar or the Ovens/FEMA Camps!!! Does this make me a fascist!!!”
He’s stated support for Jill Stein as well as opposition to both Hillary and Trump and wants white people to go to Vinland. This guy’s all over the map. Probably not a sane thought in his mind about anything.
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Love, love love this interview on MsNBC with between Chuck Todd and Lt Gov Ralph Northam–when he basically said I am a pediatric neurologist, I can go thru the DSM criteria on narcissism
and HRC knows she can still bait him into a twitter battle—can we say covfefe
Comey coming back at you–fired staffers unlike the reality show don’t get in a cab and quietly go away from Trump tower–they get to come back on Capitol hill to testify-
oops is there another meeting that Sessions did not report even on the corrected testimony
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Trump’s tweet today –trying to damage a potential witness cred–obstruction
this probably Christie advice imho–recall Bridgegate
if Comey testifies that the AG willingly left the room when Trump pulled him aside for a talk
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Trump projects again–Europe is not laughing at us–they are laughing at you trapped in a desire to erase the Obama legacy–this action shows his stupidity and his inability to assess all the facts to make proactive changes
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recent op-ed–calls for McMaster step down
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once again Trump shows contempt for America
pulling out of Paris accord in the rose garden
Bannon/Russia/Saudi Arabia and China won today due to Trump’s limitations
the house GOP celebration of that depraved and sadistic health bill
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Trump vs everyone else. The end of American influence. The rise of Russia and China as they fill the leadership void thanks to the Manchurian President.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/opinion/donald-trump-poisons-the-world.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…poisons-the-world.html[/link]
This week, two of Donald Trumps top advisers, H. R. McMaster and Gary Cohn, wrote the [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/america-first-doesnt-mean-america-alone-1496187426]following passage[/link] in The Wall Street Journal: The president embarked on his first foreign trip with a cleareyed outlook that the world is not a global community but an arena where nations, nongovernmental actors and businesses engage and compete for advantage.
That sentence is the epitome of the Trump project. It asserts that selfishness is the sole driver of human affairs. It grows out of a worldview that life is a competitive struggle for gain. It implies that cooperative communities are hypocritical covers for the selfish jockeying underneath.
The essay explains why the Trump people are suspicious of any cooperative global arrangement, like NATO and the various trade agreements. It helps explain why Trump pulled out of the Paris global-warming accord. This essay explains why Trump gravitates toward leaders like Vladimir Putin, the Saudi princes and various global strongmen: They share his core worldview that life is nakedly a selfish struggle for money and dominance.
The error is that it misunderstands what drives human action. Of course people are driven by selfish motivations for individual status, wealth and power. But they are also motivated by another set of drives for solidarity, love and moral fulfillment that are equally and sometimes more powerful.
People are wired to cooperate. Far from being a flimsy thing, the desire for cooperation is the primary human evolutionary advantage we have over the other animals.
By looking at nothing but immediate material interest, Trump, McMaster and Cohn turn America into a nation that affronts everybody elses moral emotions. They make our country seem disgusting in the eyes of the world.
I wish H. R. McMaster was a better student of Thucydides. Hed know that the Athenians adopted the same amoral tone he embraces: The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. The Athenians ended up making endless enemies and destroying their own empire.
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Trump fails the President Obama test
it has been how many days since tax day but we have no word on whether Trump even filed–u would think this would not be hard since technically he did not work last year but campaign
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Deleted UserJune 2, 2017 at 6:15 pmSorry no one but the takers care
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why did u respond “delicate” Cinderella–stuck with a pumpkin–and Putin just threw him under the bus
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Trump issues more ethics waivers than President Obama did in 8 years
-a retro active waiver does not exist–cover up
waivers given to Bannon/Conway and Preibus
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is Saudi Arabia attempting to to make gas prices soar after cutting off Qatar-make the price rise but not to high to compete with shale oil–all in time for summer travel–
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so we have a large base in Qatar– a country that is now cut off from getting supplies due to Saudi Arabia cutting off diplomatic ties
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A good portion of American voters have certainly shown they are fearful kitties since 9-11 and the GOP has shown it self to love manipulating this fear.
Yes, make America Great again, start by growing a spine not made of jello. And cojones. The Brits have shown us how it can be done. But we’re still afraid. Poor, poor dears.
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so bogus that Trump is having dinner with Rubio and cotton who will be present for Comey talk–how is this not obstruction–Rubio can u bend over any further
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Actually just saw a blurb that Trump tried to get DNI Coats to intervene with Comey on the Flynn thing. Where there’s fire there’s fire.
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oh and his man Putin could not pull it off on his talk with Fox–he reverted to a conspiracy theory on CIA with JFK assassination( like gee that parallels Trump’s love for conspiracy theories and Ted Cruz dad)
folks any foreign power would salivate to have an ex-general had of national security in their corner–please this is not hard
Putin’s oh later they told me I was sitting next to a general at that dinner( are you kidding–the Russian intelligence does not just allow their leader to sit next to anybody oh and Jill Stein who cut votes for the left was at the same table–this was a well thought out infiltration and I believe HRC–Americans provided instructions on where to insert)Quote from DICOM_Dan
Actually just saw a blurb that Trump tried to get DNI Coats to intervene with Comey on the Flynn thing. Where there’s fire there’s fire.
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loyalty pleez–this is such obvious obstruction and Christie’s bridgegate attorney for FBI director–it had Christie crowing on MsNBC today
the swamp-
I believed Trump imho from Comey’s notes was trying to entrap Comey with saying out loud you are loyal–Comey has on tape if Trump was taping as saying–Honest loyalty
with respect to tapes I would think the Presidency would have a system in place because u don’t want people saying false things after meeting with you–I saw recently Nixon saying I should have kept President Johnson’s system in place and I was like yeah Johnson did have some sort of tape system in place because CNN had on a documentary a tape of Johnson telling this guy he had appointed him to the Warren committee( the guy ???? southern senator was like please Mr. President I don’t want to be on that committee–Johnson’s reply –it has been done, I have made an announcement, u will be on that committee)-
Colon. Lawrence Wilkerson cause Trump–like the mafia/ god father–so sad –gangsta
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Admiral Rodger whines today under questioning because I feel–son you are in the military u serve–u don’t get to feel–note he took a personal day off during the transition to see Trump in Trump tower
dishonorable discharge can we say–when does this come into play
McMaster has caved–this guy whines I feel
Congress needs to hold them in contempt/possible jail–seems like the white house is using executive privilege in an alternate manner with people refusing to answer–this is a disgrace and an insult to the tax payers of America-
I am sure Comey was like why is he bringing up the Russian ho stuff–like don’t u have other stuff to be worried about
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Rogers and Coats very careful wording but never denying that there were discussions on the topic.
All these people making Clinton’s, “It depends on what the meaning of is, is,” defense seem like an amateur’s attempt at misdirection and not answering a direct question. Guess they like their job & feel dirty enough not to explain but not dirty enough to resign or fired by Trump.-
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‘Qatar supports terror. Hey Qatar would you like those new F-15 jets with Ivanka Trump brand flight suits?’ – Donald Trump probably
[link=http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/qatar-buys-12b-u-s-jets-days-after-trump-says-n772691]http://www.nbcnews.com/ne…ter-trump-says-n772691[/link]-
his tweets now are consistent with obstruction by attempting to demean the people doing the investigation–his friend throwing shade
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Today apparently Trump tweets that “he’s being investigated for firing FBI director by the man who told me to fire the FBI director! With hunt”.
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so Russia hears that sanctions passed the Senate–now they are claiming they have liquidated Isil leader–Putin playing games
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Saw this on the Internet:
Psychiatrists are not talking for a reason. The American Psychiatric Association, the leading professional organization for shrinks, has a longstanding ban on its members commenting on the mental health of public figures, called the Goldwater Rule. The rule not only forbids psychiatrists from diagnosing a public figures behavior without obtaining their consent or personally evaluating them but also forbids any public opining on them at all. Even if to say, Trump doesnt have a mental illness.-
So Handel wins GA. She apparently did a good job as painting Ossof as a Pelosi Democrat. Some of the analyst I heard this morning on NPR are basically saying how toxic Pelosi is for some of these districts that the Dems want to overturn. People would take a Trump republican over a Pelosi Democrat.
Further proof it’s time for Nancy to go. They should’ve voted in Tim Ryan as speaker.
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If Jesus was a Democrat & replaced Pelosi, the South & Republicans in general would become ex-Christians & move on to some other religion. Jesus is just too liberal and socialist. And anti-Capitalist, after all, he threw out the money-changers.
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If they want to win seats and being seen as a Pelosi crony is a problem than you eliminate the problem. I heard a little of the debate they had. I though Ossoff seemed like a good candidate.
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Ossoff seemed to get better–all he has to do is move and wait
Karen is a dull non-inspiring establishment politician who will have the ACA cloaked around her neck fighting for GOP dollars in 2018 for re-election( everyone will be asking the RNC for money)–can she get another 20-mill–a 4 point win is really poor given that Price won by double digits–it took Pence/Price/and that nasty ad about the Bernie supporter shooting up a park to get her with a 4 pint margin win in a seat once held by Newt–not a good outlook if GOPQuote from DICOM_Dan
If they want to win seats and being seen as a Pelosi crony is a problem than you eliminate the problem. I heard a little of the debate they had. I though Ossoff seemed like a good candidate.
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no tapes??-tweeted a lie or is he lying and this is obstruction
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Rep. Tim Ryan indicates Nancy Pelosi needs to step aside for Dems to win back chamber[/h1]
[link=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-dems-suggest-pelosi-prevent-2018-chamber-win-article-1.3268663]http://www.nydailynews.co…-win-article-1.3268663[/link]-
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Rep. Tim Ryan indicates Nancy Pelosi needs to step aside for Dems to win back chamber
[link=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-dems-suggest-pelosi-prevent-2018-chamber-win-article-1.3268663]http://www.nydailynews.co…-win-article-1.3268663[/link]
I’m not so sure I buy that. Any person who is able to get the support necessary to replace her in Dem leadership is going to be [i]at least[/i] equally liberal, from a safe district (probably on the coast somewhere), and will be quickly branded by the opposition party in a negative fashion.
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I think it just feeds into the narrative that Pelosi is toxic. I don’t dislike democrats but I don’t like Nancy Pelosi. It’s hard to argue that what the Dems are doing now is helping their brand. They need new blood instead of the same old.
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SC Parnell proves that
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Rep. Tim Ryan indicates Nancy Pelosi needs to step aside for Dems to win back chamber
[link=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-dems-suggest-pelosi-prevent-2018-chamber-win-article-1.3268663]http://www.nydailynews.co…-win-article-1.3268663[/link]
I’m not so sure I buy that. Any person who is able to get the support necessary to replace her in Dem leadership is going to be [i]at least[/i] equally liberal, from a safe district (probably on the coast somewhere), and will be quickly branded by the opposition party in a negative fashion.
The key for Democrats is to put up good candidates who run good campaigns and put them into every competitive district in the country. Then give them lots of $$, lots of infrastructure support, and a winning economic message.
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Rep. Tim Ryan indicates Nancy Pelosi needs to step aside for Dems to win back chamber
[link=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-dems-suggest-pelosi-prevent-2018-chamber-win-article-1.3268663]http://www.nydailynews.co…-win-article-1.3268663[/link]
I’m not so sure I buy that. Any person who is able to get the support necessary to replace her in Dem leadership is going to be [i]at least[/i] equally liberal, from a safe district (probably on the coast somewhere), and will be quickly branded by the opposition party in a negative fashion.
The key for Democrats is to put up good candidates who run good campaigns and put them into every competitive district in the country. Then give them lots of $$, lots of infrastructure support, and a winning economic message.
True true about running good candidates and campaigns, but also about getting Democratic voters to get up off the EZ chair to vote.
Regarding Pelosi, She’s been successfully demonized by and to those whose primary news sources are FOX and other right-wing outlets so if they said Pelosi engaged in Satanic rituals sacrificing children, these people would believe it and it all probably happens in a pizzeria.
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now we know why Comey leaked that because Trump was lying about tapes–is this an attempt to scare a witness
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the pattern of lies
recall how the reporter outed him to Marla and the John Miller comment–all 3 went to a restaurant and per the reporter Donald said nothing but got up and left
recall his Obama -they can not believe what they are finding–the birther lie
-that he saw people cheering and had friends die in 9/11
-the President Obama wire tap lie
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Deleted UserJune 22, 2017 at 8:56 pmOne the one hand the libs like to say that Hilary had 3 million more votes than Trump……and then on the other hand they claim that democrats keep losing because democrats need to get out of their EZ chairs and vote. Which is it? If the majority of the country is anti-Trump why do democrats continue to lose elections?
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I get it
divert from seeing the obvious lies laid upon u
as the australian Prime Minister says with wink –we are winning and not in the fake polls–the online pollsQuote from IR_CONSULT
One the one hand the libs like to say that Hilary had 3 million more votes than Trump……and then on the other hand they claim that democrats keep losing because democrats need to get out of their EZ chairs and vote. Which is it? If the majority of the country is anti-Trump why do democrats continue to lose elections?
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One the one hand the libs like to say that Hilary had 3 million more votes than Trump……and then on the other hand they claim that democrats keep losing because democrats need to get out of their EZ chairs and vote. Which is it? If the majority of the country is anti-Trump why do democrats continue to lose elections?
It’s quite entertaining listening to the libs ignore reality. Losing sucks. You are supposed to learn from losses. Instead the libs
create excuse after excuse to try to explain how this could have possibly happened. Someone must have cheated. Ever think
it may be time to change your message and policies. I think we should start an investigation into the Georgia election. I think the
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I get it –U need to divert from the tweet tape lie–it just falls into the pattern of the reporter outing John Miller to Marla
Trump’s Mueller is an honorable man comment imho is like a wise guy saying that’s a really nice house u have thereQuote from Ben Casey
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One the one hand the libs like to say that Hilary had 3 million more votes than Trump……and then on the other hand they claim that democrats keep losing because democrats need to get out of their EZ chairs and vote. Which is it? If the majority of the country is anti-Trump why do democrats continue to lose elections?
It’s quite entertaining listening to the libs ignore reality. Losing sucks. You are supposed to learn from losses. Instead the libs
create excuse after excuse to try to explain how this could have possibly happened. Someone must have cheated. Ever think
it may be time to change your message and policies. I think we should start an investigation into the Georgia election. I think the
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Carrier –more jobs moving( 600 jobs)–and will continue near Christmas–there are suckers born everyday that believed the lies–Trump U and Trump care coming to u
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This MF’er has been driving golf carts onto greens
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/06/22/what-the-hell-trump-president-upsets-golf-fans-after-driving-cart-on-green/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na&utm_term=.0edf3d38053a]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.0edf3d38053a[/link]
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Ridiculous – you think the WH is planing to attack Syria w chemicals? Where do you come up with this stuff?
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Sloppy written way of saying the white house issued a press briefing about evidence that Syria might be planning another attack. They did this release when Mattis was away. I don’t think they dropped a MOAB in Syria either, that was Afghanistan. In Syria they launched tomahawks from the naval force.
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so glad the press punched back at Sarah Huckaberry–the tax payers pay her salary–her job is to be professional and act as an appropriate press secretary–like all the press secretaries did before this bunch got in
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and he claimed HRC had no stamina or remember low energy Jeb–neither have the girth that he is carrying around these days
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This MF’er has been driving golf carts onto greens
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/06/22/what-the-hell-trump-president-upsets-golf-fans-after-driving-cart-on-green/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_1_na&utm_term=.0edf3d38053a]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.0edf3d38053a[/link]
I’m not sure if this is new behavior for him but this is the kind of BS that would get a person tar’d, feathered, and run up the flag pole at even the lowliest of public course.
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DJT has fake Time magazines at his golf clubs with him on the cover.
[link=https://www.someecards.com/news/politics/donald-trump-fake-time-magazine-cover/]https://www.someecards.co…e-time-magazine-cover/[/link]
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Time has ask for removal–they could sue
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DJT has fake Time magazines at his golf clubs with him on the cover.
[link=https://www.someecards.com/news/politics/donald-trump-fake-time-magazine-cover/]https://www.someecards.co…e-time-magazine-cover/[/link]
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Some Trump Biogrpahy titles. I like
Mein Covfefe
The Spy Who Memo’d Me
[link=https://www.someecards.com/news/politics/titles-trump-biography-twitter/]https://www.someecards.co…ump-biography-twitter/[/link]
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meanwhile he breaks his promise of not asking for funds–he is holding a 2020 Presidential fundraiser in his DC hotel today –some say Heller was sited( I hope he saw the large group of protest outside of the hotel( keep in mind Nevada–nuclear waste could be coming to U0
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Some Trump Biogrpahy titles. I like
Mein Covfefe
The Spy Who Memo’d Me
[link=https://www.someecards.com/news/politics/titles-trump-biography-twitter/]https://www.someecards.co…ump-biography-twitter/[/link]
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Inappropriate -Undignified and Unpresidential–that is how Jeb put Trump’s tweets on Mika
I say nasty, vulger, hateful and another example of Trump spiting on American women—America’s Birthday is coming and the p grabber tarnishes the image every day-
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Narcissistic Rage:
is a reaction to narcissistic injury, which is a perceived threat to a narcissist’s self-esteem or self-worth. Narcissistic injury (or narcissistic scar) is a phrase used by Sigmund Freud in the 1920s; narcissistic wound and narcissistic blow are further, almost interchangeable terms.
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so the truth is they were going to repeal and not replace–sick people
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Folks this is nasty and wrong–Mika and Joe being told better coverage or release info on you in the National Enq–this is unacceptable
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so Huckaberry went dark today after her use of religion to excuse DJT behavior–not very christian to me–what is one of the ten commandment–Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor–her face was bleeding???-birther crap????
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every 7/4 we worry about outside terror affecting our country–this year we have the GOP inflicting terror on Americans that they will just repeal/take their healthcare when the holiday is over
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Apparently Trump is golfing again today. 35th time since he’s been in office. I kind of wish I was POTUS. I’d get to play way more golf. Get my handicap back down to a single digit.
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I wonder if Andy Katz will go to the White House to ask him his NCAA bracket picks
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anti-American and racism today in Poland:-trashes the intelligence community on foreign soil–denigrates first black American President without saying the title President Obama–just Obama did nothing( though Russia still wants to get back in their NY/MD summer retreats);-did not visit Warsaw Ghetto
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Wha wha wha mommy mommy the President spoke about Obama while in Europe. He can’t do that because Obama is black. Mommy mommy only Barack can make comments on the President when Barak speaks in another country.
Uh Oh! Mommy mommy the President spoke ill of CNN and NBC while in another country. Mommy mommy only Maxine Watts can tweet badly about the President when he is another country and we can give her a pass.
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are you American??
by throwing shade on Iraq-he has denigrated the deaths of soldiers from our country and our allies that fought during the Iraq war–not quite a good image if you did not serve in the Vietnam warQuote from Ixrayu
Wha wha wha mommy mommy the President spoke about Obama while in Europe. He can’t do that because Obama is black. Mommy mommy only Barack can make comments on the President when Barak speaks in another country.
Uh Oh! Mommy mommy the President spoke ill of CNN and NBC while in another country. Mommy mommy only Maxine Watts can tweet badly about the President when he is another country and we can give her a pass.
What a whiner.
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Tell Trump he’s the greatest & he’ll be eating out of your hand. It’s all ego, no substance.
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If you’re going to make stuff up, why this? Everyone at G-20 is talking about Podesta, really?
Trump Tweet
“Everyone here is talking about why John Podesta refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. Disgraceful!”
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/07/07/trump-claims-everyone-at-g-20-is-talking-about-podestas-role-in-russian-hacking-episode/?utm_term=.a15d8d9ef881]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.a15d8d9ef881[/link]
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“Yes, I’m sure that’s the big talk at G20. Not climate change or trade, but why didn’t John Podesta give a server that wasn’t his to the CIA”-
I’m sure that was Angela’s 1st question today. And Macron’s. Only Putin didn’t ask because he already knew the answer.
Trump’s supporters don’t care that it makes no sense, it’s just more misdirection about Hillary & the DNC & Podesta.
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I’m reading things today that he let Ivanka sit in for him at G20. How is that allowable? No one elected Ivanka.
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I’m even more astounded when I see a picture of Ivanka just now. She’s sitting between the president of China, and the prime minister of England. What does Trump have to do I order to get impeached? This is ridiculous.
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Australian reporter gave a scathing review on Trump’s performance at G20-u see the pic of him sitting alone
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didn’t Trump beliebers tell us Trump was going to get us out of Iraq & Afghanistan?
Now we know how, hire mercenaries from Eric Prince.
Used to be hard core Conservatives believed that government was only meant for national defense. Now they can privatize that too. Yippee! No government except what someone can buy or get at the muzzle of a gun!
Hasn’t that been done before? They’re called “failed States!”
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/world/asia/trump-afghanistan-policy-erik-prince-stephen-feinberg.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…-stephen-feinberg.html[/link]
President Trumps advisers recruited two businessmen who profited from military contracting to devise alternatives to the Pentagons plan to send thousands of additional troops to Afghanistan, reflecting the Trump administrations struggle to define its strategy for dealing with a war now 16 years old.
Erik D. Prince, a [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/world/middleeast/blackwaters-legacy-goes-beyond-public-view.html]founder of the private security firm Blackwater Worldwide[/link], and [link=http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/stephen_a_feinberg/index.html?inline=nyt-per]Stephen A. Feinberg[/link], a billionaire financier who owns the giant military contractor DynCorp International, have developed proposals to rely on contractors instead of American troops in Afghanistan at the behest of Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trumps chief strategist, and Jared Kushner, his senior adviser and son-in-law, according to people briefed on the conversations.
On Saturday morning, Mr. Bannon sought out Defense Secretary [link=http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/james_n_mattis/index.html?inline=nyt-per]Jim Mattis[/link] at the Pentagon to try to get a hearing for their ideas, an American official said. Mr. Mattis listened politely but declined to include the outside strategies in a review of Afghanistan policy that he is leading along with the national security adviser, Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster.
The highly unusual meeting dramatizes the divide between Mr. Trumps generals and his political staff over Afghanistan, the lengths to which his aides will go to give their boss more options for dealing with it and the readiness of this White House to turn to business people for help with diplomatic and military problems.
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so the Nothing burger gets bigger
keep in mind that Russia already knew about this meeting–are they blackmailing because sanctions were discussed at that meeting regardless
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Deleted UserJuly 11, 2017 at 8:32 pmSLN, you are a dull blade indeed.
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scram Troll
Bye Felicia–twirl back to FOX where u belong
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SLN, you are a dull blade indeed.
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Deleted UserJuly 11, 2017 at 9:19 pmI see that the Left still can’t meme worth a damn. All that reliance on Jonathan Stewart and Colbert has caused atrophy of your creative abilities.
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U fell for another Bernie Madoff–a 4 failed casino Maddoff–a circus barker–what a loser
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I see that the Left still can’t meme worth a damn. All that reliance on Jonathan Stewart and Colbert has caused atrophy of your creative abilities.
SAD!
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Deleted UserJuly 11, 2017 at 9:26 pm[image]http://www.cassglobalsecurity.com/cass/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/theodore-roosevelt-quote.jpg[/image]
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the Republican party has strayed quite far from the days of Teddy
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Deleted UserJuly 12, 2017 at 6:45 amGarden-variety cliche. Both parties are the dregs of their former substantive selves. Irrelevant. I’m not a partisan.
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So exactly how so? What are the past accomplishments of the Parties that they are dregs of their former selves? Examples?
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Deleted UserJuly 12, 2017 at 8:40 amThe major political parties used to advance America’s and Americans’ interests above all else. Today, major parties are globalist in nature. They champion commerce over culture, immigrants (even illegal ones!) over Americans, and easy fixes over substantive decisions for the country’s long-term health.
The rhetoric has also declined immeasurably. I can’t think of a single modern political figure who’s given a speech that could hold a candle to the erudition and beauty of those of, for instance, Theodore Rossovelt Jr.-
Teddy Roosevelt? He served at the start of the 20th Century, over 100 years ago. And he was of the Progressive Party – AKA “Liberal.” You support a liberal agenda? Teddy was an environmental activist & believed in government regulation of monopolies and capitalism and was pro-consumer protection, supported women’s suffrage and desegregation. And he supported immigration.
if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin
As for speeches, John F. Kennedy,
“Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”
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“In a time of domestic crisis, men of goodwill and generosity should be able to unite regardless of party or politics.”
Or Robert F. Kennedy:
Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.
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Some men see things as they are, and ask why. I dream of things that never were, and ask why not.
Or Martin Luther King:
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
And Barack Obama:
We, the People, recognize that we have responsibilities as well as rights; that our destinies are bound together; that a freedom which only asks what’s in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity or duty or patriotism, is unworthy of our founding ideals, and those who died in their defense.
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My fellow Americans, we are and always will be a nation of immigrants. We were strangers once, too.
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Deleted UserJuly 12, 2017 at 9:56 am
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Teddy Roosevelt? He served at the start of the 20th Century, over 100 years ago. And he was of the Progressive Party – AKA “Liberal.” You support a liberal agenda? Teddy was an environmental activist & believed in government regulation of monopolies and capitalism and was pro-consumer protection, supported women’s suffrage and desegregation. And he supported immigration.
if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin
I am an environmentalist. I support government regulation of the market at large. I don’t have a problem with immigration from European countries – the same general stance, btw, as that held by virtually everyone until the disastrous Immigration Act of 1965.Quote from Frumious
As for speeches, John F. Kennedy,
“Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”
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“In a time of domestic crisis, men of goodwill and generosity should be able to unite regardless of party or politics.”
Or Robert F. Kennedy:Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.
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Some men see things as they are, and ask why. I dream of things that never were, and ask why not.
Those are ok as far as they go, but they’re not even close to the same class as Roosevelt speeches.
[link=http://www.theodore-roosevelt.com/trsorbonnespeech.html]http://www.theodore-roose…/trsorbonnespeech.html[/link]Quote from Frumious
Or Martin Luther King:Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Utterly vapid. Next.Quote from Frumious
And Barack Obama:We, the People, recognize that we have responsibilities as well as rights; that our destinies are bound together; that a freedom which only asks what’s in it for me, a freedom without a commitment to others, a freedom without love or charity or duty or patriotism, is unworthy of our founding ideals, and those who died in their defense.
If this is your idea of eloquence, your standards are good investment material, as they have no course of action but to rise.Quote from Frumious
My fellow Americans, we are and always will be a nation of immigrants. We were strangers once, too.
This is a flat-out [i][b]lie[/b][/i]. America was not, in its youth, a nation of immigrants. It was a nation of settlers. -
Settlers who came from…? The only indigent Americans were American Indians, AKA Native Americans. Everyone else was an immigrant.
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Deleted UserJuly 12, 2017 at 10:07 amWrong.
They weren’t “Americans” of any sort, because there was no “America” – just untamed wild land with hundreds of tribes warring with each other over land and buffalo.
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New Worlders then?
They certainly were immigrants. They came from Denmark & Norway, Spain, Portugal, Britain, Holland, France, Italy and the continent of Africa (although most were brought in chains). Not a native among them.
Your ancestors were immigrants.
Settler & Immigrant are synonyms.
BTW, a definition of “immigrant” is “an organism in a new habitat.” I think that applies regardless of your explanations.
And “indians” or “Native Americans” or whatever you want to call the indigent people here in the New World had established communities. The land was settled already, when the Europeans or other Old Worlders came.
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Deleted UserJuly 12, 2017 at 10:31 am
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New Worlders then?
They certainly were immigrants. They came from Denmark & Norway, Spain, Portugal, Britain, Holland, France, Italy and the continent of Africa (although most were brought in chains). Not a native among them.
Your ancestors were immigrants.
[i][b]Settler & Immigrant are synonyms. [/b][/i]
Gosh, I’ve argued with dense Leftists on a number of other forums, but the ones on AM really are easy foils 😀
An immigrant is one who resettles in a new [i]country[/i]. If there’s no extant country, one is not an immigrant. -
Look it up, don’t make stuff up to suit your prejudices.
There are such things as “immigrant” plants and animals. They are not immigrating or even settling in another country.
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Deleted UserJuly 12, 2017 at 10:41 am
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Look it up, don’t make stuff up to suit your prejudices.
There are such things as “immigrant” plants and animals. They are not immigrating or even settling in another country.
[link=http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520249301]http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520249301[/link]
Yes, but in the human context, it refers to countries.
It’s sad that Leftism has gotten to the point where it has to reach as far as to apply animal/plant word usage to human populations just to attempt to keep its argument’s head above water.
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Why MUST “immigration” be strictly defined as moving to a political country? What needs do you have for that? Immigration has been defined as more than that for quite a long time. What political need do you have and why?
The people crossing the Bering Straight millennia ago are called “immigrants” as well as settlers.
[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlement_of_the_Americas]https://en.wikipedia.org/…lement_of_the_Americas[/link]The first is the [i]short chronology theory[/i], that the first migration occurred after the Last Glacial Maximum, which went into decline after about 19,000 years ago,[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_strait_theory#cite_note-Blaiseetal1990-10][10][/link][/sup] and was then followed by successive waves of [b]immigrants[/b].[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_strait_theory#cite_note-20][20][/link][/sup] The second theory is the [i]long chronology theory,[/i] which proposes that the first group of people entered the Americas at a much earlier date, possibly 21,00040,000 years ago,[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_strait_theory#cite_note-Bonattoetal2009-21][21][/link][/sup][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_strait_theory#cite_note-Cinq1979-22][22][/link][/sup][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_strait_theory#cite_note-Bonnichsen1978-23][23][/link][/sup] followed by a much later second wave of [b]immigrants[/b]
[link=http://www.history.com/news/native-americans-hailed-from-siberian-highlands-dna-reveals]http://www.history.com/ne…-highlands-dna-reveals[/link]This timeline for ancestral Native Americans departure adds to a growing body of evidence that humans colonized the Americas earlier than previously thought. In the past, archaeological evidence seemed to indicate that people arrived roughly 13,000 years ago, bringing the so-called Clovis cultureknown for its signature spear points and associated with various sites in North Americawith them. Recent discoveries together with genetic research have made the case for an earlier wave of [b]immigrants[/b], Schurr said.
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Deleted UserJuly 12, 2017 at 11:22 amIt’s easy to fall into the habit of misusing these words.
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