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  • btomba_77

    Member
    May 24, 2022 at 8:42 am

    [link=https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3499406-doj-orders-its-officers-to-intervene-to-prevent-excessive-use-of-force/]DOJ orders federal officers to intervene to prevent excessive use of force

    First update to federal use-of-force guidelines in 18 years
    [/link]

    Officers will be trained in, and must recognize and act upon, the affirmative duty to intervene to prevent or stop, as appropriate, any officer from engaging in excessive force or any other use of force that violates the Constitution, other federal laws, or Department policies on the reasonable use of force, Attorney General [link=https://thehill.com/people/merrick-garland/]Merrick Garland [/link]wrote in the memo.

    The new policy bars use of deadly force on a subject who is fleeing and also prohibits shooting into a moving vehicle solely to disable it. It also bars deadly force on those seen as a threat only to themselves.

    Officers may use force only when no reasonably effective, safe, and feasible alternative appears to exist and may use only the level of force that a reasonable officer on the scene would use under the same or similar circumstances.
     
    The memo outlines a number of subjects on which officers must now be trained, from de-escalation techniques, alternative methods and tactics for handling resisting subjects, and intervention techniques to use with colleagues.

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    • satyanar

      Member
      May 24, 2022 at 10:09 am

      Quote from dergon

      Officers will be trained in, and must recognize and act upon, the affirmative duty to intervene to prevent or stop, as appropriate, any officer from engaging in excessive force or any other use of force that violates the Constitution, other federal laws, or Department policies on the reasonable use of force, Attorney General [link=https://thehill.com/people/merrick-garland/]Merrick Garland [/link]wrote in the memo.

      The new policy bars use of deadly force on a subject who is fleeing and also prohibits shooting into a moving vehicle solely to disable it. [b]It also bars deadly force on those seen as a threat only to themselves.[/b]

      Officers may use force only when no reasonably effective, safe, and feasible alternative appears to exist and may use only the level of force that a reasonable officer on the scene would use under the same or similar circumstances.

      The memo outlines a number of subjects on which officers must now be trained, from de-escalation techniques, alternative methods and tactics for handling resisting subjects, and intervention techniques to use with colleagues.

      [/QUOTE]

       
      All looks good to me except potentially the bolded. Are we telling officers their life is expendable in favor of the pursuant and potential criminal if it’s only their life at stake? That’s a tough bargain.
       
      I’m honestly struggling to see the need for that part of the directive considering how much the rest would improve the process if adhered to.
       
       
       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        May 24, 2022 at 10:16 am

        Themselves I believe refers to the suspect, not the officer

  • satyanar

    Member
    May 24, 2022 at 11:53 am

    Quote from dergon

    Themselves I believe refers to the suspect, not the officer

     
    I see. That language needs clarification then. I’m sure you are correct but I imagine I am not the only one to read it that way.
     
     
     
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      July 8, 2022 at 11:07 am

      [link=https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/arizona-law-illegal-film-police-8-feet?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=politics-arizona]https://www.axios.com/202…ntent=politics-arizona[/link]
       
      [b]New Arizona law makes it illegal to film within 8 feet of police[/b][/h1] Criminal justice organizations, [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fnppa.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2FHB%25202319%2520Opposition%2520Letter%252002-18-22%255B3%255D.pdf]media companies[/link] and the American Civil Liberties Union opposed the bill.
      We believe that this bill stacks the deck against the public check on officer misconduct, Timothy Sparling, of Arizona Attorneys for Criminal Justice, told the Senate Judiciary Committee in March.

      The [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.justice.gov%2Fopa%2Fpr%2Fjustice-department-announces-investigation-city-phoenix-and-phoenix-police-department]Department of Justice is investigating[/link] the Phoenix Police Department, in part because of alleged retaliation against protesters.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        July 8, 2022 at 11:44 am

        Gov. Doug Ducey this week [link=https://apps.azleg.gov/BillStatus/BillOverview/76770?SessionId=125]signed into law a bill[/link] that supporters say will [link=https://www.azmirror.com/2022/03/17/republican-backed-measure-to-restrict-filming-of-police-officers-passes-senate-committee/]protect “police officers from harm.[/link]” 
         
        Yes, the “harm” of getting caught on video. The only purpose of a law like this is to prevent embarrassing videos of cops violating people’s civil rights or worse. 
         
        As soon as a cop walks/runs up to you while recording, you are in immediate violation of the law and subject to arrest.
         
         

        • btomba_77

          Member
          July 8, 2022 at 12:08 pm

          Also, critically, it makes filming an officer during a traffic stop by the driver or any passenger a crime.

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            July 8, 2022 at 12:17 pm

            Hmmm, your word against a cop’s. Wonder who wins that argument?
             
            As a lawyer friend of mine asked me years ago, “Why would the police lie?” arguing precisely the opposite of an accused person who “has a reason to lie.”
             
            Dangerous naïveté as recent years of proven video events have proven.

          • kaldridgewv2211

            Member
            July 8, 2022 at 12:46 pm

            Quote from dergon

            Also, critically, it makes filming an officer during a traffic stop by the driver or any passenger a crime.

            It looks like it’s in certain situations but this kind of makes sense anyway.  I can understand having a line between taking video and doing it in a way that doesn’t interfere with an officer doing their job.  It’s still probably open to abuse.  Like who determines what questioning a suspicious person is.
             
            Details: People can face misdemeanor charges if they film within 8 feet of an officer:
            [ul][*]Questioning a suspicious person.[*]Conducting an arrest, issuing a summons or enforcing the law.[*]Handling an emotionally distrubed or disorderly person who is exhibiting abnormal behavior. [/ul]  

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              July 8, 2022 at 1:04 pm

              The law & examples infer that someone is making a video of a cop questioning or arresting someone with the videographer literally getting within a couple of feet of the arrest, literally close enough to entangle their bodies in the action. Like WTF does that ever happen? Even during George Floyd’s murder, people stood at a distance, no one tried to get within 8 feet. Too dangerous as you see a cop casually and unemotionally murdering a man on video. If no one got within 8 feet while literally videoing a snuff film, when would anyone do that?
               
              The only purpose is to silence criticism & video proof of police misconduct. 

              • kaldridgewv2211

                Member
                July 9, 2022 at 4:03 pm

                I still understand this. Ive seen videos of cops arresting people and theyre surrounded by people. I can see it as a safety issue for them and even people around. 8 feet seems like enough space that you can film whatever and still give them room. Like dont put yourself in the middle.

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  July 22, 2022 at 6:06 am

                  The problems are police culture seeing the public as the enemy and allowing really bad police to have a long career as cops.
                   
                  These people need to be weeded out.
                   
                  Interesting that this Mississippi chief lost his job in a vote of 3 to 2. 2 people voting thought his bragging about killing was OK?
                   
                  [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/21/mississippi-police-chief-recording-fired-dobbins/]https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/21/mississippi-police-chief-recording-fired-dobbins/[/link]

                  A police chief in Mississippi was fired Wednesday after a leaked recording showed that the official had bragged about killing 13 people in the line of duty and used the n-word repeatedly, including to describe one Black person the White man says he shot at least 119 times.
                   
                  The racist, homophobic and expletive-laden remarks that Sam Dobbins, the chief in the small town of Lexington, made during an April conversation with an officer caused an uproar this week in the Mississippi Delta community.
                   
                  The roughly 16-minute conversation, which was first reported by the [link=https://www.mississippicir.org/news/mississippi-police-chief-linked-to-racist-recording]Mississippi Center for Investigative Reporting[/link], was recorded by Robert Lee Hooker, a Black man who resigned as an officer from the Lexington Police Department last week due to what he described as a toxic work environment.
                   
                  In the recording, later obtained by The Washington Post, Dobbins can be heard boasting to Hooker about all of the men he killed when he was an officer.
                   
                  Ive killed 13 men in my career, justified, he said, according to the recording. In my line of duty, I have shot and killed 13 different people.
                   
                  While describing an alleged shootout in a cornfield, Dobbins claimed to Hooker that he saved 67 kids in a school by shooting a Black man more than 100 times.
                   
                  I shot that n—– 119 times, okay? Dobbins said to Hooker, adding that the man he shot was DRT, or dead right there. Its unclear what case hes referencing, but Dobbins reiterated, The vehicle was shot 319 times, but he was hit 119 times by me.

                  And Timothy Loehmann cant get hired as a cop after killing Tamir Rice.
                   
                  [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-cleveland-officer-fatally-shot-tamir-rice-hired-pennsylvania-boroug-rcna37074]https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-cleveland-officer-fatally-shot-tamir-rice-hired-pennsylvania-boroug-rcna37074[/link]
                   

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 4, 2022 at 9:49 am

    [h1][b]Four current, former Louisville police officers federally charged in Breonna Taylors death[/b][/h1]
    [link=https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/us/breonna-taylor-federal-charges/index.html]https://www.cnn.com/2022/…ral-charges/index.html[/link]”

    Four current and former Louisville Metro Police Department officers involved in the deadly raid on Breonna Taylors home were arrested on Thursday and charged with civil rights offenses, unlawful conspiracies, unconstitutional use of force and obstruction offenses, Attorney General Merrick Garland said at a press conference Thursday.

    Joshua Jaynes, Kelly Goodlett and Kyle Meany were charged with submitting a false affidavit to search Taylors home, and then worked together to create a false cover story in an attempt to escape responsibility for their roles in preparing the warrant affidavit that contained false information.

    Brett Hankison was indicted on two counts of deprivation of rights under color of law. An attorney for Hankison had no comment.”
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 20, 2022 at 1:53 pm

    [link=https://www.axios.com/2022/08/20/alabama-disbands-entire-police-department-racist-texts?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_source=twitter]https://www.axios.com/202…amp;utm_source=twitter[/link]

    [h1]Alabama city disbands entire police department over racist texts[/h1]

    In Alabama, the Vincent City Council voted unanimously to temporarily abolish its police department Thursday night because the town cannot legally fire its officers, Latimer said.

    [link=https://www.al.com/news/2022/08/appropriate-disciplinary-action-taken-against-vincent-police-officer-who-texted-racist-joke.html]Racist text messages[/link] from one of the citys three police officers were posted online earlier this year, in which the sender made a joke involving slavery and pregnant women.
     
    The officers involved were placed on administrative leave, but the city did not have the authority to fire those officers, Latimer said.
     
     Latimer said the city plans to contract dedicated police services with the Shelby County Sheriffs Office for the next year.
     
    The town will reestablish its police force in the future, he said.

    [/QUOTE]
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 22, 2022 at 8:45 am

      [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Farktimes.com%2Farkansas-blog%2F2022%2F08%2F21%2Fcrawford-county-officers-caught-on-video-pummeling-shoeless-man]https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2…g-shoeless-man[/link] 

      3 police officers were caught on video pummeling a homeless person.

      The video is insane.

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    August 22, 2022 at 9:28 am

    Ah, resisting arrest while getting his head bounced on the cement sidewalk, getting punched & kicked.

    The 3 officers obviously feared for their lives against this unarmed man on the ground, resisting.

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      August 22, 2022 at 9:35 am

      there were a good number of videos I saw this weekend of the cops being pretty terrible.  Dergon’s was one.  There was another one of a tiny black lady getting the crapola kicked out of her.   Both those videos looked really bad for the officers involved.  Another where a cop rolled up to a black guy in his own yard and was trying to say he had a warrant in LA.  Just pure racism.  Just more bad apples spoiling the bunch.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        August 22, 2022 at 12:35 pm

        The question is why so many bad apples & behavior to public? & why do communities tolerate cops beating or shooting or just killing people? States Island all upset about finally firing Panteleo cop who killed Eric Garner over loosies! WTF is wrong with those people who support that kind of police behavior?

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          August 22, 2022 at 5:53 pm

          They shouldnt be tolerated. I still dont think on the whole that all police are rotten.

          Maybe they should have licensure which can be revoked.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 29, 2022 at 7:26 am

    [link=https://www.wect.com/2022/09/28/sheriff-im-sick-these-black-bastards-every-black-that-i-know-you-need-fire-him/]WECT[/link]
      [h1]North Carolina Sheriffs Racist Rant Caught on Tape[/h1]  
    [h1]Im sick of these black bastards…. Every black that I know, you need to fire him…[/h1] [h5][b]SBI investigating allegations of Obstruction of Justice at the Columbus County Sheriffs Office[/b][/h5]  
    North Carolina sheriff Jody Greene was taped on a phone call complaining about a snitch in his office who happened to be African-American.
     
    Said Greene: Im sick of it. Im sick of these black bastards. Im going to clean house and be done with it. And well start from there.
     
    He added: Tomorrows gonna be a new f*cking day. Im still the motherf*cking sheriff, and Ill go up and fire every goddamn [inaudible]. Fuck them black bastards. They think Im scared? Theyre stupid. I dont know what else to do it. So its just time to clean them out. Theres a snitch in there somewhere tellin what we are doing. And Im not gonna have it. Im not going to have it.
     
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      December 4, 2022 at 5:22 am

      [link=https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1598119725178900485?s=20&t=7PGv7rei76Up3yStsdRLyg]https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1598119725178900485?s=20&t=7PGv7rei76Up3yStsdRLyg[/link]
       
      Florida Sheriff in Brevard County holds a press conference with new right-wing school board chair to call for more severe discipline of students, saying they need to fear like in the old days that theyre going to have the cheeks of their ass torn off for not doing right in class.
       

       
      also says this new severe discipline policy will somehow make Brevard schools safer from active shooters, intruders and clowns who disrupt classrooms. He also blames the shooting in Parkland on not having severe enough punishment protocols.

      • satyanar

        Member
        December 4, 2022 at 8:38 am

        I guess we need the exception that proves the rule. All I can say is Im glad I dont live in Brevard County. 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 27, 2023 at 9:31 am

    [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usnews.com%2Fnews%2Fbest-states%2Ftennessee%2Farticles%2F2023-01-20%2F5-officers-fired-after-arrest-death-of-memphis-man]https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta…of-memphis-man[/link]


    [h1]5 Police Officers Fired After Memphis Man’s Arrest, Death[/h1] Officials say five Memphis Police Department officers have been fired for excessive use of force, failure to intervene and failure to render aid stemming from an arrest during a traffic stop of a man who later died in a hospital”

    5 cops fired before footage and widespread unrest? Yeah… this is gonna be a bad one. Beating a man to death at a traffic stop and letting him die.
     
    ____
     
    Body cam footage being released today and it is supposedly really, really bad.  Like “businesses buying unrest insurance bad”
     
    Police Chief asked something like if releasing the footage on a Friday was to try to blunt the effect and the answer was {paraphrase} that it is so bad that it will be explosive mo matter when it is  released 
     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      January 27, 2023 at 10:29 am

      If it is what they say, I don’t understand the second degree murder charge.  
       
      “The five officers, who are all Black, were each charged with second-degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct and official oppression, Mulroy said.”

      • satyanar

        Member
        January 27, 2023 at 12:09 pm

        Why not second degree murder, “if it is what they say”?
         
        What about “what they say” does not apply?
         
        [link=https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2021/title-39/chapter-13/part-2/section-39-13-210/]Tennessee Code § 39-13-210 (2021) – Second Degree Murder :: 2021 Tennessee Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia[/link]

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      January 28, 2023 at 8:00 am

      Warrior mentality. Constant belief they are not patrolling American streets with Americans, they are on patrol in Falluja and everyone is an enemy combatant.
       
      Ok, so every cop is not a bad cop but then how come there seems to be so many tolerated within the ranks. Where is so-called self-policing? They all believe the same thing about the public, the public is the enemy as if patrolling in Falluja?
       
      And why the made-for-TV names like Scorpion Unit? 
       
      The police whine they are being criticized unfairly. So how is fear of the police unfair? A simple traffic stop can get you beat-up so bad you are hospitalized if lucky or dead if not so lucky. 
       
      Asking, What have I done? deserves a beat down instead of an answer because you have no right to ask & asking is not being submissive but challenging.
       
       

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    January 28, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    So the difference is premeditated? They made a scorpion squad of thugs. Seems like some thought went into that.

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      January 28, 2023 at 7:56 pm

      Not following. Difference?

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        January 28, 2023 at 9:30 pm

        Theyre all on second degree murder. It sounds like maybe some other people involved too as theyre on tape talking about a cover up. Hope his family ends up owning Memphis after the lawsuit is paid out.

        • satyanar

          Member
          January 28, 2023 at 9:33 pm

          Im wondering about this difference also.

          • ruszja

            Member
            January 29, 2023 at 8:25 am

            I for one am so glad that hiring officers who look like the citizens they police fixed that white supremacy issue that has been ailing US policing….

            This wasn’t their first rodeo and the PD leadership ignored prior complaints.
            This seems to be a problem baked into these types of specialized ‘street crimes’ units.
            These thugs were hired by the department leadership, put into a special unit and given a lot of leeway on how they could rule the streets. The firings need to go a lot further than those 5. Everyone up the chain of command who was involved in the creation and management of that uniformed street gang needs to go.

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              January 29, 2023 at 8:55 am

              You’d have to fire a very lot of those in the upper chain of command across the nation considering all the police violent misconduct we have seen in so many places over only a couple of years. Without ubiquitous cameras we’d never know about these murders as they would be dismissed as just another example of the police “doing their job” against a violent uncooperative suspect who “tried to grab their gun.”
               
              And a  unit named SCORPION should immediately be suspect. Unfortunately violent police misconduct is not limited to these made-for-TV names, this violent abuse is rampant across the nation with so many police departments. 
               
              The problem of the police seeing the public as armed enemy combatants is across the nation and is not limited to the upper echelons, it starts with the warrior training and the total submission requirement of a “suspect” even if that “suspect” is hard of hearing, deaf, wearing headphones, mentally challenged or even fully cooperating but asking questions along the “WTF am I doing wrong?” asked by the victims who are voluntarily down on the ground with their hands up as ordered.
               
              And what’s with these cops that they just beat the sh1te out of someone & then stand around – on camera & joking – about the distress or last breaths of their “suspect.” You’d think they were auditioning for “Training Day.” No aid for the suspects in obvious distress or even dying?
               
              There are too many incidents. This is about training and about how the police see the public and how they perform their job. And you can’t just blame it all on the upper officers in command. The rank and file do not criticize these officers and will rally around protecting them. As do their supervisors.
               
              And then there’s the police unions protecting these people from the consequences of their behavior. An officer with a recurring problem has their records protected from public scrutiny.

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                January 29, 2023 at 12:04 pm

                Break down the Blue Wall of Silence. Otherwise all are complicit.

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  January 30, 2023 at 6:43 am

                  Not a new problem. Elite units have a long history of abuse. 
                   
                  [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/29/opinion/tyre-nichols-death-proves-yet-again-that-elite-police-units-are-a-disaster.html?unlocked_article_code=JqGaLCqq5bMuuAGYEHXOMkIOVkWh_2EKuXv2IXc5b3X0ZCH0NsBNYpSpZbgW37Js7IX1EGs_aaT5pdjpOZtZtK9bGThrv3F-gjOB0WSgOup5UcTbceTVjW11mBdj_f01GDUoHMcE5KEG42VjAoRd2D2SoHTINZfyoe0FWDxIhAPp-6dAj-3Nxg4tQlKnvHa_wa7Noa1b4BjtfxWbkbFOGOIa2h-a7uZGZqKu6oDOWxBIfGRSBseShnhrP39JgK5qLXwDoML0y46Z4cIK9rCI6acvFlOuLx64KGW1k00mZc91Uut172W2obEYYmxzsiNMmMSMywS5fklTVL_RlJthcUMsLt4hAUZfOMlQSG9WZ62yUyX7UTQ6gHsLMQ2xWnaT0YxSkVrC1so8HVHl7LQjpvkgvg&smid=share-url]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/29/opinion/tyre-nichols-death-proves-yet-again-that-elite-police-units-are-a-disaster.html[/link]

                  These units are typically touted as the best of the best teams of highly experienced, carefully selected officers with stable temperaments, who have earned the right to work with less supervision. It isnt difficult to see the dangers of telling police officers again and again that they are elite, but whats really remarkable is how far that ideal is from the reality. As Stephen Downing, a retired Los Angeles deputy police chief and former SWAT officer once told me, The guys who really want to be on the SWAT team are the last people you should be putting on the SWAT team. These units tend to attract aggressive, rules-skirting officers who then [link=https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/breaking/189276741.html]bring in[/link] like-minded colleagues to [link=https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/americas-dirtiest-cops-cash-cocaine-and-corruption-on-the-texas-border-241579/]join them[/link].

                  Scandals involving elite police units have also hit [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1996/09/13/police-chief-quits-over-fray-in-indianapolis/778cf87c-be2f-497d-9e88-f2933dab8322/]Indianapolis[/link], [link=https://www.wsbradio.com/news/local/apd-officer-reinstated-city-appeal/z9g6LjZJgjwAySHreVtmfO/]Atlanta[/link], [link=https://www.hrw.org/legacy/reports98/police/uspo108.htm]Philadelphia[/link], [link=https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/23/nyregion/tainted-force-a-special-report-newark-police-troubles-out-of-control-at-the-top.html]Newark[/link], [link=https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-04-27-ga-59404-story.html]Pomona[/link], [link=https://www.newspapers.com/image/403945298/?terms=%22elite%20police%20unit%22%20brutality%20-colors%20-kosovo&match=1]Milwaukee[/link], [link=https://www.newspapers.com/image/631716846/?terms=%22elite%20police%20unit%22%20abuse&match=1]Greensboro[/link]and [link=http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/558.html]Fresno[/link], among others. Most recently, [link=https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/inside-the-gttf-what-happened-to-the-officers-in-baltimores-biggest-police-corruption-scandal/]eight officers[/link] from a unit in Baltimore were convicted and imprisoned [link=https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/2/16961146/baltimore-gun-trace-task-force-trial]after allegations[/link] that they robbed city residents, stole from local businesses, sold drugs, and carried BB guns to plant on people.
                   
                  The evidence is overwhelming: Giving roving teams of police officers added authority, elite status, a long leash and a vague mandate is a formula for abuse.

                   
                   
                   

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                April 10, 2023 at 5:13 am

                Police go to wrong house & kill husband who was legally armed.

                Police still do not seem to be trained how to handle a legally armed citizen outside of shooting first then sorting out everything later
                 
                We need more guns held by citizens.

                [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/us/new-mexico-police-shooting.html?action=click&algo=bandit-all-surfaces-time-cutoff-30_impression_cut_3_filter_new_arm_5_1&alpha=0.05&block=more_in_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=488094968&impression_id=8f3fa5a2-d797-11ed-bcc7-b3c271e7921c&index=3&pgtype=Article&pool=more_in_pools%2Fus&region=footer&req_id=430493972&surface=eos-more-in&variant=0_bandit-all-surfaces-time-cutoff-30_impression_cut_3_filter_new_arm_5_1]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/07/us/new-mexico-police-shooting.html[/link]

                The New Mexico State Police are investigating a fatal shooting by police officers in Farmington, N.M., after the officers responded to the wrong house for a domestic violence call on Wednesday night, officials said.
                 
                Farmington Police Department officers were responding to a call at 5308 Valley View Avenue [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/12/us/politics/farmington-nm-jobs-coronavirus-reopening.html]in Farmington[/link], a city in the rural northwest corner of New Mexico, but knocked on the front door at 5305 Valley View Avenue instead, the State Police said.
                 
                Police officers fatally shot Robert Dotson, 52, after they mistakenly approached his home around 11:30 p.m. and he opened his screen door armed with a handgun, the New Mexico State Police [link=https://www.dps.nm.gov/blog/2023/04/06/state-police-investigate-ois-involving-the-farmington-police-department/]said in a statement[/link] on Thursday.
                 
                Mr. Dotsons wife, who was not named, then fired from the houses doorway with a handgun, investigators said, and the police fired back. She put down the gun once she realized that the people outside were police officers.
                 
                Investigators said that body camera footage showed that as officers backed away from the house, Mr. Dotson opened a screen door armed with a handgun. Then at least one officer fired at Mr. Dotson, striking him.

                 
                 

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  April 10, 2023 at 7:24 am

                  Class assignment, you’ve been murdered in a school shooting.
                   
                  Write your own obit.
                   
                  [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/10/florida-teacher-fired-obituaries-shootings/]https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/10/florida-teacher-fired-obituaries-shootings/[/link]

                  The high school students who filed into psychology teacher Jeffrey Keenes first-period class on Tuesday were greeted with a striking assignment: TODAY WAS YOUR LAST DAY ALIVE, Keenes instructions read in capital letters. WRITE YOUR OWN OBITUARY.
                   

                  The prompt was one of several reflections Keene asked his 10th-, 11th- and 12th-grade students to write on the topic of school shootings. They had been on Keenes mind that morning, he told The Washington Post in an interview, between the recent Nashville school shooting and his schools plans to hold an active-shooter drill that day.
                   

                  There are mass shootings everywhere, unfortunately, Keene said. So being the psychology teacher, I said, I can tie this into a lesson plan.
                   

                  Keene said the lesson, which he devised that morning, was meant to encourage his students in Orange County, Fla., to share their perceptions on the epidemic of gun violence in U.S. schools. Other questions asked students to write what kind of positive actions they could take to prevent mass shootings and how mass shootings affected you as a person. A note at the end of the assignment said it was in no way intended to upset/et al you!

  • btomba_77

    Member
    February 3, 2023 at 6:17 am

    [link=https://morningconsult.com/2023/02/01/most-voters-see-police-violence-as-problem/]Most Voters See Police Violence as Problem and Common Against Black Americans
    [/link]
    [h2]75% of voters say police violence against the public is a problem, similar to the 73% in a survey conducted after the murder of George Floyd in May 2020[/h2] [link=https://morningconsult.com/2023/02/01/most-voters-see-police-violence-as-problem/]

    [/link](but >60% of Republicans disagree)

    [ul][*]According to a survey conducted after the release of police body camera footage from the incident that preceded Nichols death, 3 in 4 voters say police violence against the public is a very or somewhat serious problem in the United States. Its slightly higher than the 73% in a June 2020 survey conducted amid nationwide protests after former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin murdered Floyd about a month earlier.[*][*] [*]A majority of Republican voters (56%) see police violence against the public as a problem, higher than [link=https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2020/07/23074709/2006105_crosstabs_POLICING_STACKED_RVs_STACKED_v4_LM.pdf]in June 2020[/link] amid nationwide Black Lives Matter demonstrations or [link=https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2023/01/31134225/210595_crosstabs_POLITICO_RVs_v2_SH.pdf]in May 2021[/link] after Chauvins trial dominated headlines. Roughly 9 in 10 Democrats (89%) share this sentiment in the latest survey, in line with the previous surveys. [/ul]  
     
     
    [ul][*]Roughly 3 in 5 voters (62%) say police violence against Black people is widespread and common, compared with 38% who say it is rare. [/ul]  
    [ul][*]The question divides partisans, with 84% of Democrats saying law enforcement brutality is a regular occurrence and 62% of Republicans saying it is infrequent.   [/ul]  
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    • btomba_77

      Member
      April 6, 2023 at 3:47 am

      [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbs8.com%2Famp%2Farticle%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fofficer-badge-loss-california%2F103-1dd14b80-52a9-4c98-922d-386d8496670c]List of officers facing badge loss in California is now public and growing SB2 passed in 2021 in order to prevent bad cops from simply switching departments when they are accused of a crime.[/link]

      SACRAMENTO, Calif. 20 police officers across the state are facing the possibility of never working in law enforcement again. It’s a list that includes officers accused and convicted of rape, extortion and drug use. I can assure you it’s way more than 20 officers that we’ve seen so far, said state Senator Steven Bradford.

      Bradford authored Senate Bill 2 in 2021, allowing the states Commission of Peace Officer Standards (POST) to decertify police officers if theyve committed a crime. The law rolled out in January.

      “SB2 is designed to stop the wash, rinse and repeat cycle which allows officers to resign from a department before being convicted of a crime and start their behavior all over again in different departments, said Bradford.

      ______
       
       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        April 9, 2023 at 3:15 pm

        [link=https://www.npr.org/2023/04/08/1168830220/texas-governor-abbott-pardon-army-sergeant] Just one day after army sergeant convicted for murder at BLM rally, Texas governor seeks to pardon him…[/h3] [/link]
         

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    April 9, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    It was only BLM protester.

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    July 25, 2023 at 8:06 am

    Mauled for a mudflap???

    Since when was that ever an excuse to sic a dog on someone? His running kinda proves a justification for running in fear of the cops. Besides the dog was released as revenge for running? He had his hands in the air while getting different instructions from different cops.

    The cop feared for his life?

    Police are the ones needing control.

    • btomba_77

      Member
      July 25, 2023 at 9:01 am

      The guy was fearful .. he was on 911 as the event was happening

      The troopers knew he was no threat but the cop sucked the dog on him anyway

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        July 25, 2023 at 1:39 pm

        why?  He had the opportunity to stop for the truck inspector.  I read the article.  I’ve seen these Tahoes on interstates in OH that will pull over truckers.  not cops but vehicle inspectors.  Says here it was going to be for a mud flap.  I can totally understand trucks needing them too as to not kick up rocks at other drivers.v  Why not stop?
         
        “A Motor Carrier Enforcement inspector with the Ohio State Highway Patrol tried to stop Jadarrius Rose, 23, who was driving a semi-tractor trailer, because it “was missing a left rear mud flap,” according to an incident report”
         
        Then why did they have to deploy stop sticks twice?  Did he not notice the highway patrol sitting next to the road trying to blow his tires?
         
        “Troopers deployed tire-deflating devices called stop sticks on Rose’s vehicle twice before it came to a stop on U.S. Route 23.”
         
        Lastly I don’t have a problem with them sending the dog.  I feel like the flip side is you’ve pulled over a guy was running.  The safest way to take him down would be send the dog first and then pull the dog off and arrest him.  The dog grabs the arm and the guy doesn’t do anything like a pull a gun etc.. 
         
        I feel like if I see something about the cops doing wrong, I can call it that way.  In this case I just don’t see it that way.  
         

        • kayla.meyer_144

          Member
          July 25, 2023 at 5:52 pm

          Unacceptable behavior by this 1 cop who should be disciplined. You dont sic a dog on a compliant person, whatever the f the reason. That was overkill. The penalty for resisting is enough without a dog wounding him for fun.

          A Circleville police officer who has a dog can be heard telling Rose to “go on the ground or youre gonna get bit.” Meanwhile, a trooper with the highway patrol tells Rose to “come to me.”

          It is then that the Circleville police officer, identified as “R. Speakman,” deploys his K9.

          “Do not release the dog with his hands up!” a trooper can be heard yelling multiple times before Speakman releases the dog.

          The video shows the dog running toward Rose, who comes to his knees as Speakman releases the dog.

          Rose was charged with failure to comply with an order or signal of a police officer, a fourth degree felony, according to the highway patrol, and faces between six and 18 months in prison.

          The highway patrol clarified that the canine involved in the incident is from the Circleville Police Department and not the Ohio State Highway Patrol.

          • kaldridgewv2211

            Member
            July 25, 2023 at 6:45 pm

            Why was it fun? Are the cops supposed to know they guy doesnt have a gun or knife? Theres no reason I see to give the guy any benefit of the doubt. Pull out the FAAFO chart.

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              July 25, 2023 at 7:48 pm

              Please. Not only was there no indication, there was in fact no gun or knife.
               
              Hands up, dont shoot means just that. America is not Falluja.

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              July 25, 2023 at 7:51 pm

              Besides how many armed cops were around him? Youd have to assume his goal was suicide & the bait a missing mud flap.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 4, 2023 at 9:44 am

    Six former Mississippi law enforcement officers pleaded guilty on Thursday to multiple counts of civil rights violations for a January raid in Rankin County during which they tortured and physically abused two Black men, the Justice Department said. The officers, who are White, admitted to entering a home in Braxton, Miss., without a warrant and carrying out an array of traumatizing and horrific acts of violence on the two men, federal prosecutors said. The men were handcuffed and arrested without probable cause, punched, verbally abused with racist slurs and Tasered more than a dozen times, the investigation revealed. The officers threw eggs at the men, held them down while pouring milk and alcohol over their faces, and assaulted one of the victims with a sword, prosecutors said.

    One officer carried out a mock execution by inserting a gun into the mouth of one man, according to the indictment. When the firearm discharged, it broke his jaw.

    The defendants in this case tortured and inflicted unspeakable harm on their victims, egregiously violated the civil rights of citizens who they were supposed to protect, and shamefully betrayed the oath they swore as law enforcement officers, Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a statement.

    . [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio…-squad-racist/]https://www.washingtonpos…natio…-squad-racist/[/link]

    racist sociopaths have no business being given badges and guns.

    We need much more stringent front end psychological screwing for LEOs to keep abusers out

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      August 4, 2023 at 10:09 am

      And then there’s the continuing acquittals of officers on camera dealing “pain compliance” with a flashlight. It’s not even about the officer “fearing for his life.”
       
      [link=https://www.npr.org/2023/08/03/1191900887/louisiana-trooper-aquitted-jacob-brown-aaron-bowman-civil-rights]https://www.npr.org/2023/08/03/1191900887/louisiana-trooper-aquitted-jacob-brown-aaron-bowman-civil-rights[/link]

      A federal jury in Louisiana on Wednesday acquitted a white state trooper charged with violating the civil rights of a Black motorist despite body-camera [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GovQy6zuR5Q]footage[/link] that showed the officer pummeling the man 18 times with a flashlight.
       
      Brown, 33, who defended the blows to investigators [link=https://www.npr.org/2021/08/25/1030977804/trooper-hits-black-motorist-18-times-flashlight-pain-compliance]as “pain compliance,”[/link] would have faced up to a decade in federal prison if convicted.
       
      Brown’s defense attorney, Scott Wolleson, told The Associated Press he was grateful for the verdict. “The men and women of the jury recognized the risks law enforcement officers like Jacob Brown face on our behalf every day,” he said.
       
      The acquittal comes as federal prosecutors are still scrutinizing other Louisiana state troopers caught on body-camera video punching, stunning and dragging another Black motorist, [link=https://www.npr.org/2021/11/02/1051666335/new-ronald-greene-autopsy-report-discredits-the-police-theory-that-he-died-in-a-]Ronald Greene[/link], before he died in their custody on a rural roadside. 
       
      Body-camera footage of both the Bowman and Greene beatings, which took place less than three weeks and 20 miles apart, remained under wraps before the AP obtained and published the videos in 2021. The cases were among a dozen highlighted in [link=https://www.npr.org/2021/09/09/1035446605/louisiana-state-police-bodycam-videos-beatings]an AP investigation[/link]that revealed a pattern of troopers and their bosses ignoring or concealing evidence of beatings, deflecting blame and impeding efforts to root out misconduct.

      State police didn’t investigate the Bowman attack until 536 days after it occurred and only did so weeks after Bowman brought a civil lawsuit. It ultimately determined Brown “engaged in excessive and unjustifiable actions,” failed to report the use of force to his supervisors and “intentionally mislabeled” his body-camera video.
       
      On the night that Bowman was pulled over for “improper lane usage,” Brown came upon the scene after deputies had forcibly removed Bowman from his vehicle and taken him to the ground in the driveaway of his Monroe home. Video and police records show he beat Bowman 18 times with a flashlight in 24 seconds.
       
      “I’m not resisting! I’m not resisting!” Bowman can be heard screaming between blows.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 19, 2023 at 3:31 am

    [h1][b]FBI arrests officers who allegedly used police dogs to attack people[/b][/h1]

    Ten current and former police officers in Northern California were arrested in a series of FBI raids Thursday connected toa set of sweeping indictments that include charges of criminal conspiracy, illegally distributing steroids and using dogs to attack people and violate their civil rights, authorities said.

    The officers with the Antioch and Pittsburg police departments in the Bay Area repeatedly skirted accountability, displayed dangerous and dishonest behavior, and acted as though they were above the law for years, Ismail Ramsey, the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of California, said in a news conference.

    The allegations made by prosecutors, which stemmed from a two-year investigation, were wide-ranging over four indictments. Some of the most serious charges were in a civil rights indictment against three Antioch officers accused of planning to hurt specific people using police dogs, collecting trophies of their alleged crimes and reveling afterward.

    [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fnation%2F2023%2F08%2F18%2Fcalifornia-antioch-police-fbi-raid-civil-rights%2F]https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio…-civil-rights/[/link]
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 24, 2023 at 3:20 am

      Cops beat Wisconsin man eating dinner with his wife and baby.

      The cops chased a black couple into an Applebee’s and accosted him and his wife. The real suspect was hiding in a bathroom.

      [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fabc7chicago.com%2Famp%2Fcaught-on-camera-kenosha-wi-police-news%2F13629527%2F]But they still charged him and his wife with resisting arrest and obstruction of justice.[/link]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 28, 2023 at 9:50 am

    [link=https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-gonna-fight-florida-cop-153000125.html]https://www.yahoo.com/new…ida-cop-153000125.html[/link]
     
    [h1]Youre Not Gonna Fight Me!: Florida Cop Yanks Black Woman Out of Her Parked Car While She Is Reportedly Waiting for Friends at Beach In Bloody Arrest Captured on Video[/h1]  
     
     
    How you doin? said Davis. You got an ID on you, maam?
    Cooper began to look for her identification as she politely replied with a soft voice, Why am I giving my ID?
    The tone in Davis voice was audibly different as he replied, Because I asked for it.
     
    Because you asked for it, echoed Cooper, prompting Davis to say, yes maam.
    Cooper then stated that she no longer felt comfortable because she didnt have a problem.
    OK, well, Im asking for your ID, and if you dont produce it, Im gonna take you to jail, said Davis. As Cooper asked her mother if she heard the conversation, Davis said he wasnt going to ask her again. Cooper then tells her mother she wasnt being told why Davis wanted to see her ID and referenced being arrested.
    These people could kill me, Mom, said Cooper.
     
     
    Davis told Cooper he would give her one more chance or and then Im gonna pull you out of the car.
    Cooper replied that he would not be pulling her out of the car as he reached over and opened her car door. She could be heard asking why he was being so aggressive.
    Sir! Please! Why are you being so aggressive?
    Davis pulled Cooper out of the car and tackled her to the ground as a tussle ensued.
    Youre not gonna fight me what are you doing? asked Cooper as Davis appeared to be trying to hold her hands in place while yelling, Stop! Stop!
    Cooper can be heard saying, Whats wrong with you? You just hit a woman.
    The 28-year-old was arrested and charged with resisting arrest and battery on a law enforcement officer. Cooper testified in court last July that Davis hit her several times in the head and that she received injuries to her arms, face and legs after being attacked by Cooper.
     
     
     
    [link=https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/08/28/florida-woman-pulled-out-of-her-parked-car-by-broward-deputy/]CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE VIDEO.[/link]
     

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