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DOW 17000… So close!!!
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Gold 3500$
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Take your ball and go home. All you do is complain after you are exposed as a manipulator and liar. It’s beyond weird.
We’re here to have discussions to learn and be honest. Not having either is a total waste of time. You have thousands of completely meaningless posts like the above. It’s time to grow up.
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Ran into a hedge-fund manager at the hotel bar last week. After a few drinks, he gave me this advice:
“There will be a 7-8% run up in the next few months, followed by a much larger correction. Sell out at end of the run up.”
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only way the market sees 12000 is if there is a major geopolitical event
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That probably what people said when it was 12000 and got chopped in half. It think if you look historically a 20-30% drop could be about right.
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That probably what people said when it was 12000 and got chopped in half. It think if you look historically a 20-30% drop could be about right.
Watch what will happen, too, Dan — I’m calling even this well ahead of time — when my predictions come perfectly true OR they are very close that any person with any sort of objective analysis would give credit, they’ll all scramble to distract and try their damndest to not give proper credit. I’m pre-empting that garbage because that’s an easier prediction than any I’ve made so far; their playbook is so obvious is childish.-
[b]Watch what will happen, too, Dan — I’m calling even this well ahead of time — when my predictions come perfectly true OR they are very close that any person with any sort of objective analysis would give credit, they’ll all scramble to distract and try their damndest to not give proper credit. [/b]
Thats fair enough
But you can’t have it both ways
You haven’t really got anything right yet
Until that point you will be known as the guy who Flat out yelled from the rooftops that Gold 3500$ was some kinda no brainer and anyone who dared to say otherwise was just plain out uniformed and stupid.
[b]AND[/b] you did do that…. several times actuually
You said Gold 3500$
You said it very boldly
and you acted like it was some Fng new law of phyiscs that was guaranteed and could not be challenged
Maybe someday you will be a winner on the internet message board if you keep throwing stuff out there……..but ask yourself one Question?
What is doing for you? Are you making money off it?
Basically you are just making Devils advocate worst case scenerio predictions based upon rhetoric.
Thats what you doing and thats why you will never have a pot to pee in
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IF I was like Cigar I would be screaming from the roof tops
Remember last year when I told everyone to sell Apple because it had peaked for a while and would be in a long period of a trading Range
I remember the arguments against my comments
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Again, you’re making things up. I haven’t been right, but I haven’t been wrong. You just like to paint pictures that are inaccurate, because I’m pretty much the only person that takes a stand. At least your post 2 back is somewhat reasonable, finally.
I told you what I’m doing. Waiting on the sidelines, stockpiling cash and then I’ll get in — it’s exactly what I told you long ago. I’m not old (not sure how old you are) but I haven’t missed anything because I haven’t been making the big Rad money a long time, and this market for 2 years has just been leading up to a big movement downward. My patience will pay. You think I’m stupid, you are very wrong, oh so wrong.
My pockets will tell the story in not too long …
FAT and deep, just like the ladies like it.-
!!!!Administrator!!!!
I have a further technology improvement for AM.
Private chat rooms.
Cigar and kpack…get a room….you guys are made for each other….-
LOL, all the guy does is post meaningless drivel and tries to lie about former posts
I’ll give him credit when he puts something up there honest (like a few posts back, notice I said it was reasonable)
but other than that it’s just more lib name calling
That’s all they can ever do, just childish game playing
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duped
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kpack is so sure he knows me so well, knows people just like me, claims I like all these guys he hates, etc etc
More liberal biases of people not living in reality or having any real idea of what’s going on in the world around them, mainly because they have been afforded the opportunity to be outside of it or in fact choose the very bubble of unrealistic living -
So wait now that I/m lying because you said
Gold 3500$
And Dow 12000
Ok
No use reading your stuff anymore
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Just stop posting lies. That’s all I ask.
Again, read my posts with clarity, report what you see in full, or … don’t. Just don’t post intentionally incorrect information to try to make yourself feel good.
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why not both stop all the bickering.
Looks like Russia and Saudis might call for an Oil production cut. Should be interesting because at least in Russia they’ve been getting hammered by low oil, and cutting production probably means losing Russian jobs.
Facebook is interesting. Stocks jumps huge off a 1.5billion dollar quarter, but the PE is like 109. Something stinks with that stock.-
Deal he is now blocked
And Yes I m hoping oil is bottomed. I m half in now waiting to go big on the other half-
He better block me, it’ll be tough to face up to Cigar when all the predictions realize.
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Personally Im focusing any new capital on the oil stocks. Im about 50% in and going to dollar cost averaging over the next 6-9 months my left over cash in big oil plus Haliburton
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[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/get-there/what-are-the-chances-of-a-recession-not-what-youd-think/2016/04/01/2a416efa-f4f4-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html]https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/get-there/what-are-the-chances-of-a-recession-not-what-youd-think/2016/04/01/2a416efa-f4f4-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html[/link]
Barry Ritholz has a nice opinion piece today in WaPo. It’s just coincidentally about the odds of a US recession, not a direct response to Trump’s call that a “massive recession” is coming, but…
For at least five years, we have been hearing that the United States is on the verge of slipping into a recession. Of course, it hasnt and probably wont anytime soon. Id like to talk about why that is and in the process look at how economic expansions end.
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We can create a basic checklist to tell when an economic expansion cycle has begun to have run its full course:
Full employment (check)
Wage gains (hardly present)
Inflation (1.7 percent is far below recession levels)
And last, an aggressive Federal Reserve tightening that takes interest rates too high. We are now at a mere 0.25 percent, perhaps going to 0.50 percent hardly soul-crushing rates.…
One day in the future, wages will increase, prices will begin to rise and, eventually, a Fed rate hike cycle will go too far. That is when this economic expansion cycle will end. In the meantime, the economy is expanding, housing is recovering, we are near full employment, and we are just starting to see some modest signs of wages moving higher. That suggests more savings and investment and perhaps an increase in retail spending. …
Enjoy the economic expansion; it will end just not as soon as the doomsayers believe-
And Pfizer just cancels the merger with Allergan!
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She’s closing back in on 18K. We need a new thread, Dow 18000 so close.
AAPL still seems like a value. I got a little more when it went back to the 90 range.
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She’s closing back in on 18K. We need a new thread, Dow 18000 so close.
AAPL still seems like a value. I got a little more when it went back to the 90 range.
Are you guys saying it’s going to something like 21k? Just wondering.
I don’t make predictions on indices. (well…. I do for sport here sometimes, but I don’t [i]invest[/i] based on those predictions)
That caveat given. – No. I’m certainly not saying that.
Anything from +10% to -10% for the year is a reasonable possibility.
Dow 21,000 would be a 15-20% rise for the year. Could happen if the elections go smoothly, corporate earnings pick up in the second half of the year, global oil settles a bit higher, China doesn’t crap out, global geopolitics don’t explode, and the US economy gets up and over 2.5%… but I wouldn’t bet on all that.-
I’d only guess it’s going to be another roller coaster year. Up is down, down is up. I think there’s some detachment from reality between what the fed will do with interest rates and what the market wants them to do (free money in perpetuity for investor class). I was reading something earlier about how fed rate went up, yet mortgage rates went down.
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Melt up is on!!!!
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I’ve been reading more and more about China and their possibly hitting the debt bottom, except in a much large way than we did in the US. So that should be interesting if/when the poo hits the fan
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“From the presidential election through first quarter 2017” is what that Cigar guy said
I think he’s got it perfect. Caveat emptor
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Day’s Range: 17,471.29 -17,602.23
~~~~Melt up over~~~~
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Day’s Range: 17,471.29 -17,602.23
~~~~Melt up over~~~~
Almost 18,000 to close the week.
At close of Q2 2016 I officially put myself 1.5 years ahead of my retirement goals. 🙂-
S&P 500 briefly passed the 2,130.82 all-time high intraday today.
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You better sell
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The S&P 500 rose 0.3 percent to 2,135.32 at 10:36 a.m. in New York, surpassing the prior intraday record set in May 2015.
(and I never sell…. I buy every month…. rain or shine, bull or bear, boom or bust )-
melt up back on…..
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The S&P 500 rose 0.3 percent to 2,135.32 at 10:36 a.m. in New York, surpassing the prior intraday record set in May 2015.
(and I never sell…. I buy every month…. rain or shine, bull or bear, boom or bust )
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Just bumped my stops up another 7% across the board locking in another big profit
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January:
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big run up to set up another fall …
February
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While reasonable, I think the thing you are furthest from reality on (apart from some political views) is the fundamental soundness of the economy. It is really bad, actually, and that’s why it won’t stop or settle at 16k
July
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You better sell
Dow 18,511
S&P at all all time intra-day high as job numbers beat expectations.
(Gold drops 1-2% below $1,350 on economic strangth)
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[url=http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/11/us-markets.html]All major US stock indexes post record closes[/url]
Thursday also marked the first time since 1999 the Dow, S&P and the Nasdaq posted record closing highs on the same day.
The Dow Jones industrial average closed about 115 points higher, with 3M contributing the most gains. The 30-stock index also traded above a previous record high of 18,622.01.
The benchmark S&P 500 advanced about 0.5 percent, with energy rising more than 1 percent. The index also briefly traded above its previous all-time intraday high of 2,187.66.
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Yeah read that. I’ve got two specific funds. 1 is like hey I’m breaking even for the year. The other is like hey I’m up 10 %. It’s a whack a do market. Look at tesla. 200 dollar stock, blowing cash like a drunk sailor at the Sun Downer.
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Bloomberg: [link=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-07/here-s-your-cheat-sheet-for-how-markets-will-react-to-the-election]Here’s Your Cheat Sheet for How Markets Will React to the Election[/link]
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It creates a buying opportunity with in the next few weeks if Trump should somehow win
I would say the market drops around 10%, but probably bounces back a little quicker than most think
Actually this is the first election I can remember that the Market rallies on a democratic victory……………… Maybe people are starting to realize what Ive been saying for 20 years…………. Democratic president is better for the markets-
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It creates a buying opportunity with in the next few weeks if Trump should somehow win
I would say the market drops around 10%, but probably bounces back a little quicker than most think
Actually this is the first election I can remember that the Market rallies on a democratic victory……………… Maybe people are starting to realize what Ive been saying for 20 years…………. Democratic president is better for the markets
I’m still waiting for that buying opportunity. Looks like the markets are rallying on a Republican victory… Anyone else remember the predictions of immediate market doom and gloom peddled by the media immediately before the election? Wrong as always.. tech sector took a slight hit for obvious reasons though. Regardless, we are well overdue for correction so we’ll see what happens going forward…
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What would you buy now
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Remember too
There was a big sell off when Obama won in 2012
Usually the short term impact is wrong
Personally I’ve sold nothing and am taking the gains
No new money going in as of now.
We will see. I’m not proud so if I’m wrong I’ll adapt and adjust but as of now I’m saving my cash
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im not smart enough to predict these things so I’m always going in fully diversfied a regular intervals, rain or shine. I dabble/gamble with individuals on the side just for fun. For example, exchanged out a ton of APPL for MSFT a couple years ago as I bought into the new CEOs vision and its done well.
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20000!!!!!!! This thing has a rocket trajectory since Nov 8. Will come crashing down at some point but shows people have massive optimism with the election results.
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no just smoke and mirrors to get the suckers in and get Trump in office–then crash–some Trump person said he sold his stocks but the amount sold for sure doesn’t match what u would expect from a billionaire
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20000!!!!!!! This thing has a rocket trajectory since Nov 8. Will come crashing down at some point but shows people have massive optimism with the election results.
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I always said through first quarter 2017, not wrong yet, straw men/deceivers.
Now I could be wrong, but again, you’re not gonna see me put a lot of money into this market. With Trump not being incompetent, though, unlike the past several presidents, we could easily see it sustain. The whole irrational longer than you can be solvent idea.-
Market at all time highs with BO in office. Yes let’s hope Trump’s competencies can keep that going.
Fed just raised interest rate
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Market at all time highs with BO in office. Yes let’s hope Trump’s competencies can keep that going.
Fed just raised interest rate
This post shows amazing contradiction and lack of understanding of what makes (made) the market go, while foolishly deriding someone, then only to come back and show again (fed just raised rates) why the first statement was so doltish!
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This morning I was thinking that the DOW 17,000 thread might turn out to be overly optimistic soon.
As I just looked, I found myself saying out loud “Holy Crap!!!”
18,551.75+219.01 (+1.19%) As of 2:06 PM EST. Market open.
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Inflation.
Trump is about to make inflation great again.
The legislative firepower to enact a slew of populist policies has investors betting that more upward price pressures are on the way, whether it be from tighter immigration, trade protectionism, or the enhanced public spending and tax cuts expected of the Republican President-Elect.
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