[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from CudaRad

So Frumi and Kpacks investments in the stock market have NOT panned out correct for you guys? Your stocks have NOT increase correct? Your 401 has NOT kept up with inflation or at least given you back 9% on a low risk scale correct? AND… AND… You’ve  diversified in all aspects in your investments, Low / Medium and High Risk strategies. What are you guys complaining about? You have the power to change your investments at anytime if you’re not comfortable with it.

I never complained when Obama was in control because I paid attention and change when I had to. It’s no ones fault but your own if you don’t like the results your getting.

 
Don’t expect anything rational from these dolts. I don’t block people, because I think it’s lame, but I will never again respond to these, they are irredeemable.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Promises

[Unknown Member]

Remember the fool that was intermittently claiming that Bitcoin was the next great investment

……….. it continues to crash

[Unknown Member]

Remember the fool that was intermittently claiming that Bitcoin was the next great investment

……….. it continues to crash

[btomba_77]

[h1]Trump (Yet Again) Predicts Market Crash If Hes Impeached[/h1]

If they actually did this the markets would crash Do you think it was luck that got us to the best Stock Market and Economy in our history. It wasnt!
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Bad news pushed markets south again today.
 
[link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-consumer-spending-slowed-sharply-in-august-11569587637]https://www.wsj.com/artic…-in-august-11569587637[/link]
 

Consumers slowed spending and businesses cut back on investment in August, signs that a wobbling global economy and rising tariffs are sapping U.S. economic momentum.
 
Personal-consumption expenditures, or household spending, [link=https://www.bea.gov/system/files/2019-09/pi0819.pdf?mod=article_inline]edged up a seasonally adjusted 0.1%[/link] in August from July, the Commerce Department said Friday. The modest growth marked a sharp pullback from the first seven months of the year, when spending rose an average of 0.5% a month.
 
American consumers had been a bright spot in the economy. But weaker August spending showed consumers might be succumbing to some of the external headwinds that have shaken businesses and manufacturers for months.
 
Slowing global growth, [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/faded-employer-bonus-payments-shows-tax-cut-boost-not-sustained-11560871497?mod=article_inline]fading effects from the 2017 tax cut[/link] and rising trade frictions are weighing on the U.S. economy.

 
Though some economists said Fridays report exaggerated the extent of weakness among consumers, the pullback in consumer outlays and business investment bode poorly for third-quarter economic growth.
 
Economists lowered their estimates of third-quarter economic growth in the wake of spending and other data released Friday. Macroeconomic Advisers closely watched model for gross domestic product showed growth slowing to 1.7% in the third quarter, down from a previous estimate of 2.2%. Pantheon Macroeconomics, meanwhile, cut its forecast for third-quarter consumer-spending growth to 2.9% from 3.6%.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Down 500 points today at noon.
 
MAGA! Trade wars are easy to win!

[kaldridgewv2211]

it’s not making headline news but the Fed has had to keep plugging money into the system.  Like billions overnight.

[kaldridgewv2211]

Golman Sachs comes out and says the cost of tariffs have been entirely bared by US business and families. Uh…ya think.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Mexico will pay our costs.

[btomba_77]

S&P 500 Record high yesterday.   3039
 
 
(btw … my “dead money for years to come” is doing just fine… AAPL up 60% ytd)

[Unknown Member]

Its had a good year

It was under valued in January

I bought it at 150 and sold at 209 in my IRA

Im still long on Microsoft (since 1993) so of course Im biased

But at the beginning of year Apple was the better buy

And again if you go back 5 yrs Apple is up 100%

Pretty good

MSFT however is up 250%

So there you go

[btomba_77]

[b]28,000[/b]

[kayla.meyer_144]

I am happy since my investments are doing well, but for all the hoopla about the great economy, the DOW market has only gained ~1,500 in almost 2 years from the high of 26,616 in Jan 26, 2018 while dipping as low as 21,792 in Dec 24, 2018. 
 
I liked the old days of boring certain growth. But I will take this.

[Unknown Member]

Never but near the highs

No new money going in except reinvested dividends which I do not deviate from

Suckers market now

We will see better buying opportunities in a few months

[kaldridgewv2211]

Is 28 a good number. Sure its the high for all time but it is it that much higher than when Trump knee capped it with tariffs.

[katiemckee84_223]

Everything keeps humming along, new highs, ho hum
 
Always a fake narrative with you guys. If Trump cured cancer, you’d talk about how people are living too long. Fart too much, too many carbon emissions. Costs are up …
 
LOL, you guys are the best, and by that I mean the grumpiest, worst of losers.
 
I’m so glad Trump wins again in 2020, it’s the only way any of you will learn. Or will you

[kaldridgewv2211]

Just when it seemed like we might finish up for the year.  Trump opens his stupid mouth about trade war.  Bang the markets are going back down.

[Unknown Member]

Market really hasnt done much in past 2 years

[Unknown Member]

And it’s not going to
 
Trump is the only thing keeping away a recession, full employment and slow growth will be the norm from here on out. Presidents/cabinets won’t matter insomuch as they really can only make things worse, and with the dem socialists rising, they will.

[katiemckee84_223]

Everyone bought the dips.
 
Why don’t you post when the market is up? This is a time of high valuations, soon it will be stagnant growth, because the working age population is down, we only have increasing GDP at full employment because of spending, and no new tech is likely coming soon (IT tech, which will be about privacy blockchain not productivity so much)
 
2020 will see market gains
 
All of you naysayers just pick your time to complain, it’s like statistics, you are so dishonest with your points of consideration. Of course the markets will eventually come tumbling down. The question is when and what are you doing now, and then at that time?
 
Make some predictions, not butthurt blind statements

[kayla.meyer_144]

Morning after & DOW’s up!
 
Looks like the street likes impeachment?

[savpruitt_28]

“Looks like the street likes impeachment?”
 
 
Yes, the markets like growth and stability. Trump being impeached actually reduces uncertainty cause people with money now know how this is going to play out and they realize the Dems probably just handed 2020 to the GOP. BTW Vegas odds of Trump win for 2020 just jumped again this morning.

[btomba_77]

My take is that the market sees it as a status quo.
 
Trump isn’t going anywhere at least until the election. That was true yesterday and it’s still true today.
 
So the market will trade on the other things it trades on …. like the House passing new NAFTA and earnings reports etc.
 
Economy is just fine… markets might be a bit overvalued but it’s still a risk on environment.
 
I don’t really see much political component in it today.

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from over-caffeinated

“Looks like the street likes impeachment?”

Yes, the markets like growth and stability. Trump being impeached actually reduces uncertainty cause people with money now know how this is going to play out and they realize the Dems probably just handed 2020 to the GOP. BTW Vegas odds of Trump win for 2020 just jumped again this morning.

 
Those who use tampons instead of their brains here can’t understand one word of your solid, but not so complex ideas there. To those of us who are sane, it’s obvious.

[kayla.meyer_144]

I recall Trump predicting the markets would crashed if he were – Oops, sorry, royal we plural phrasing – I mean if he was impeached.
 
Guess markets did not get that memo.
 
Just sayin…

[katiemckee84_223]

I recall you guys predicting xyz, meanwhile all the economic news and market just keeps going up up up up up
 
everything kpack and frumi touch with predictions regarding Trump goes to sheet

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from kpack123

Its had a good year
It was under valued in January
I bought it at 150 and sold at 209 in my IRA
Im still long on Microsoft (since 1993) so of course Im biased
But at the beginning of year Apple was the better buy
And again if you go back 5 yrs Apple is up 100%
Pretty good
MSFT however is up 250%
So there you go

Quote from DICOM_Dan

 
The chart looks like a cliff. Ive been watching Apple. Its shed about 50 from the high. I wouldnt mind dumping my tax return into some more shares. How low can she go? 

 
Apple (AAPL) up to $425 yesterday and proposing a 4:1 split. 
 
Very nice! So much for past critics’ statements.
 

[link=https://www.barrons.com/quote/AAPL]Apple[/link] (AAPL) reported revenue for its fiscal third quarter ended June 30 of $59.7 billion, up 11% from a year ago, and well ahead of the Wall Street analyst consensus at $52.1 billion. Profits were $2.58 a share, soaring past the Street consensus at $2.09.
 
Chief Financial Officer Luca Maestri added that the quarter was strong evidence of Apples ability to innovate and execute during challenging times. He said the companys active installed base of devices reached an all-time high in all geographic segments and all major product categories.

 
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[btomba_77]

I love my AAPL 🙂

[Unknown Member]

Are you still thinking gold is going to 3500$?

[kayla.meyer_144]

The man requires chaos. Otherwise youd be paying too much attention to his corruption & failures.

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from kpack123

Are you still thinking gold is going to 3500$?

 
how many more people are you going to go full retard/paranoia artist on?

[savpruitt_28]

I think its fair to say no one here comes for the predictions, good lord no one should, LOL. But I think we can all agree that no ones predictions were more f-ed up than Paul Krugman 2016, holy crap! I mean talk about letting your politics override your brain. So, I am gonna cut Trump predictions some slack cause he has to deal with this kind of stuff.
 
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout[/link]

[kaldridgewv2211]

I’m not sure what to make of it anymore.  If history repeats itself there should be a downturn.  Over the course of the Trump “administration” DJIA is really only up like 3000’ish.  It got knee capped when he started the trade war and has had to climb back up.  There’s some underlying issues in the banking system with student loans and sub prime auto loans.  Will those bubbles burst? 

[Unknown Member]

Its up on average a little of 10% per year since Trump got into office

Just a little above average returns

Not the best ever like we are hearing

Cant complain but …… trump will eventually F it up

[kayla.meyer_144]

Looks pretty steady since Obama to me.
 
Except for that steep downturn Dec 24, 2018 when it was down to 21,792 from Oct 1 of 26,651.
 

 
 

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from over-caffeinated

I think its fair to say no one here comes for the predictions, good lord no one should, LOL. But I think we can all agree that no ones predictions were more f-ed up than Paul Krugman 2016, holy crap! I mean talk about letting your politics override your brain. So, I am gonna cut Trump predictions some slack cause he has to deal with this kind of stuff.

[link=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout[/link]

 
Krugman is basically the guy who all the shills here follow. They are his spawn, spit and image. I’ve heard kpack say the same stuff, now he just keeps predicting “eventually this, eventually that” after he’s been wrong 20x.

[btomba_77]

AAPL market cap approaching $1.3 trillion

[kayla.meyer_144]

Talk about weird markets, Tesla is the most valuable car company in the world, above Toyota, above GM, above VW, above Ford.
 
[link=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-stock-most-valuable-car-company-51578415861]https://www.barrons.com/a…ar-company-51578415861[/link]

Teslas current market capitalization is approaching $83 billion and that exceeds the peak [link=https://www.barrons.com/quote/F]Ford Motor[/link] (F) market value of about $81 billion set in 1999, according to Dow Jones Market Data. Teslas market value is also larger than prebankruptcy [link=https://www.barrons.com/quote/GM]General Motors[/link] (GM), current General Motors, and pre- [link=https://www.barrons.com/quote/DMLRY]Daimler[/link] (DAI.Germany) Chrysler or [link=https://www.barrons.com/quote/FCAU]Fiat Chrysler Automobiles[/link] (FCAU). (Chrysler and Daimler [link=https://www.barrons.com/articles/fiat-renault-car-mergers-51559006800?mod=article_inline]merged[/link] in 1998.)

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from dergon

AAPL market cap approaching $1.3 trillion

 
The melt up is truly beginning. It’ll rock and roll through 2020. After Trump gets re-elected, it’ll continue … then in the 2nd term, ka-blamo
 
But of course when I’m right again no one will be digging up posts about that. Right dergon?

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from Intermittent Blasting

Quote from dergon

AAPL market cap approaching $1.3 trillion

The melt up is truly beginning. It’ll rock and roll through 2020. After Trump gets re-elected, it’ll continue … then in the 2nd term, ka-blamo

But of course when I’m right again no one will be digging up posts about that. Right dergon?

Hey, when are you going to give Obama credit for starting the economic engine that hasn’t quit under TRump? In fact I think Obama’s run-up is still better than Trump’s, no? 
 
Say it now, “Thank you, Obama!”
 
 

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from over-caffeinated

I think its fair to say no one here comes for the predictions, good lord no one should, LOL. But I think we can all agree that no ones predictions were more f-ed up than Paul Krugman 2016, holy crap! I mean talk about letting your politics override your brain. So, I am gonna cut Trump predictions some slack cause he has to deal with this kind of stuff.

[link=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/paul-krugman-the-economic-fallout[/link]

 
Bad predictions, now kiddie porn on his computer. It’s been a bad decade or two for the moron.

[Unknown Member]

None of the stats state such, employment, growth, etc all paltry under Obozo. Markets of course were up, as now, having mostly to do with no other place to put your money or get a return than US equities — and fed lowering rates like crazy — didn’t even try to raise until Trump, who still got markets moving due to confidence in him.
 
Ask Wall Street about the clowns you currently support and if you value your retirement, you will say, “Thank you Mr. Trump.”

[kayla.meyer_144]

I know this is all new to you cigar & you were probably in high school when Obama came into office & didn’t know much & still don’t apparently, but Obama still did better than you want to admit. 
 
Reality is that continuing Obama’s record was rather easy, just don’t fluck up & all will be well while Obama inherited the Great Recession and global market and economic meltdown. Meaning, Trump was already standing on a pedestal from Obama’s economy; Obama not only inherited a global economy, he recovered it all during his midterm and continued the growth.
 
Meanwhile TRump had been badmouthing Obama’s recovery. You know, “alternate facts.”
 
From that Liberal anti-business rag, Forbes:
 
[link=https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/01/14/obama-had-more-stock-market-records-than-trump/#6083dec86684]https://www.forbes.com/si…an-trump/#6083dec86684[/link]
 

during Obamas Presidency the Dow 30 Industrials had more record closes than Trump has had, 118 vs. 117. While it is true that Trump has only been in office for three years vs. Obamas eight, as you can see in the graph below Obamas market had to recover from the Great Recession and its impact on stock prices.
 
It took from January 2009 until March 2013 for the Dow Industrials to regain its previous high. It then started a string of 50 new highs in 2013 and 38 in 2014. The Dow reached new highs the remaining two years while he was in office and another one in his last month.
 
Over the last four years of Obamas Presidency the Dow reached 118 new highs and finished at 19,732. Another interesting statistic is that the Dow surged 11,783 points while Obama was in office rising from 7,949 the day of his inauguration to 19,732, a 148% increase over the eight years. It also rose by 13,185 points from its March 2009 low.
 
[b]When Trump entered office he benefited from an economy that was in its eighth year of growth, a stock market that had been consolidating for about two years and was close to an all-time high. Making new highs is much easier in this situation vs. the one that greeted Obama when he took office.[/b]

 And as for other measures:
 
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/12/26/why-trump-isnt-getting-credit-voters-good-economic-news]https://www.washingtonpos…ers-good-economic-news[/link]
 

Voters arent giving Trump much credit for the growing economy, making his path to reelection less smooth than it otherwise should be, given the impressive statistics.
 

From the beginning of the survey through the administration of President George W. Bush, there was a fairly straightforward relationship: Higher scores on this index equal better approval ratings. But Trumps approval rating hasnt budged, even though peoples views of the economy [link=http://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/files/tbyics.pdf]have grown more positive[/link] since he took office in 2017.
 

In fact, Trumps approval rating is about 15 points lower than wed predict from the historical relationship between economic evaluations and presidential approval. Right now, about [link=https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/]43 percent[/link] of Americans approve of the job Trumps doing, even though unemployment is lower than economists [link=https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/19/20699366/interest-rates-unemployment-globalization-minimum-wage-deficit]once thought possible[/link] (without causing inflation).

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[katiemckee84_223]

You’ve never looked at the Fed’s balance sheet, have you frumi

[btomba_77]

Down another 600 today … coronavirus 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Fears about global growth.
 
We need more tariffs. Call Mr. “Only I”…(can totally fluck this up)

[katiemckee84_223]

So after all the days it was up, crickets, now it takes a down day to finally get your to … blame the President again
 
you have to choose a side, Frumi, oh yeah, that’s right. You’re a hack, so you don’t. But I will be here to call your lies out all the time.

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from dergon

Down another 600 today … coronavirus 

 
buy the dip, bro lol
 
Frumi has a hard time reading charts, he loves to blame the president … for stocks continuing to … wait for it 
 
GO UP?
 
[image]https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2020/1/23/403065-15798385886495256_origin.png[/image]

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-03/trading-china-s-worst-rout-in-years-with-3-257-stocks-limit-down?srnd=premium]Chinas Worst Rout in Years Has 3,257 Stocks Falling by Daily Limit[/link]
 
[b]Chinas stock market opened to the most savage wave of selling in years. [/b]
 

[suman]

China is cancer, whatever is going to accelerate the demise of CCP is good news for humanity.

Spend a year living in Beijing talking to mid-to-high ranking party members there. You will learn that the most important thing for Xi Dada and his politburo is specifically making Han race number 1 at the expense of everyone else. It’s an ethnostate very similar to Hitler’s Germany.

Trump’s been doing a decent job cracking down on rent seekers so economy is doing better. The bar set by Barack Hussein was too low tbh. He’s even been trying to dunk on the root cause of all problems in America – US Physicians – by pushing pro-midlevel regs. My hope is that once he’s reelected he’s going to go harder on the rest of Flexner-era anti-competitive trash that’s keeping this great country hostage. If he doesn’t people will eventually vote in a communist.

[kayla.meyer_144]

True enough about China. However, Trump’s record on China isn’t exactly all glowing since he is giving America’s influence away for flattery & for posing act. The Pacific countries look much less to the US for security as Trump is giving that role to China

[katiemckee84_223]

Good try, quid pro joe
 
should I play the video again for you, or maybe Obama bowing to the House of Saud, or starting another “arab spring”???
 
you really are a retard, it takes a lot of effort to get things this wrong

[kaldridgewv2211]

Trumpy dumpty now owns 2 large one day drops.  -900 to open and he’s so serious about the corona virus he wants to cut CDC funding.

[kayla.meyer_144]

The CDC is the enemy. As is every Federal agency.

[Unknown Member]

Quote from DICOM_Dan

Trumpy dumpty now owns 2 large one day drops.  -900 to open and he’s so serious about the corona virus he wants to cut CDC funding.

 
I figured the retards would put Coronavirus on Trump, too
 
The man could cure cancer and you’d start talking about some clown like Obama, this stuff is amazingly funny. And sad.

[kaldridgewv2211]

GFY. Response to corona virus is definitely something Id look to the government for. The acting DHS chief was on twitter complaining he couldnt access Johns Hopkins virus tracker. Youd think the gov would have that info. Its not exactly confidence inspiring.

[Unknown Member]

Let me guess, you were also one of the ones who believed the Paul Krugmans of the world who predicted the market would absolutely crash as soon as Trump was elected.
 
The market will recover and correct as soon as the corona hysteria dies down.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from raduser1

Let me guess, you were also one of the ones who believed the Paul Krugmans of the world who predicted the market would absolutely crash as soon as Trump was elected.

The market will recover and correct as soon as the corona hysteria dies down.

Ah, you mean like the Trumpets who believed the economy was crashing and the stock market was lying as the S&P passed 2,000 from 865 under Obama but the system was rigged? But now the S&P is truthful as it passed 3,000?
 
Yeah, nothing like a helping of alternate facts.
 
Perhaps the market will recover, like it did from Trump’s easily winning the tariff wars when it dropped 20%.

[Unknown Member]

I’m not one of those who thinks the market is the end-all be-all of judging whether a president has been successful or not. But if you do think the market matters when judging a president’s success, the facts [real, not alternate] certainly favor Trump, even with yesterday’s decline.
 
I’m not from the fringe right, or the fringe left, both of which are equally capable of making asinine statements and coming up with wild conspiracy theories. Neither has a monopoly on stupidity.
 
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Trump and his supporters have the conspiracy theories. 

[kaldridgewv2211]

This drop is supposed to be related to the corona virus.  It looks like there’s not much confidence in the current administration on how they’re dealing with it.
 
Check out the grilling of the acting DHS from GOP stalwart John Kennedy.  This Chad Wolf dude seems in way over his head.
 
[link=https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dont-you-think-you-ought-to-check-sen-kennedy-demands-dhs-chief-provide-straight-answers-on-coronavirus-spread/]https://www.nationalreview.com/news/dont-you-think-you-ought-to-check-sen-kennedy-demands-dhs-chief-provide-straight-answers-on-coronavirus-spread/[/link]
 
That being said the corona virus stuff is not helping in other countries either.  It’s going to affect anyone doing business where this thing pops up.  All sorts of global connected-ness at work.

[Unknown Member]

As now DOW down 6% in 2 days

Now is when you start watching

[Unknown Member]

Quote from kpack123

As now DOW down 6% in 2 days

Now is when you start watching

 
Great advice. “Start watching”
 
LOL, what a great post.

[Unknown Member]

Look

You predicted gold to go to 3500$

You said the Dow was going to 12000 in 2016

You were pumping bitcoin at18,000 and then it went 4500$

You thought MSFT would outperform Apple last year…… Apple doubled the overall return of MSFT

Now you
Are doing what making fun of a buying on the dip strategy??????

No wonder you have no money

[katiemckee84_223]

Nah, that was “me” supposedly, you paranoid android
 
And again, you can’t keep repeating lies, Goebbels, it doesn’t work like that, but then again you don’t know what truth is
 
I have MSFT at huge gains, again that was my rec, and it was a huge winner. You said AAPL, true, but I don’t want to touch it and won’t, that’s fine but you never recommended it to others. Not that they’d listen anyway.
 
Gold and the markets will keep going up, as will BTC
 
No problem here

[btomba_77]

Quote from DICOM_Dan

Trumpy dumpty now owns 2 large one day drops.  -900 to open and he’s so serious about the corona virus he wants to cut CDC funding.

The Trump administration not raising much confidence through congressional testimony.
 
[link=https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1232385716463656960]https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/1232385716463656960[/link]
 
“DHS Secretary Chad Wolf claims the mortality rate for coronavirus is similar to the flu, both at about 2%. Senator Kennedy says “are you sure of that?” and the secretary doubles down.
 
…
 
The mortality rate for seasonal flu is closer to 0.1%:”

[btomba_77]

Down another ~500 at the open
 
We’re now into “correction” territory

[Unknown Member]

Down nearly 15% in 3 days

The blubbering idiot should have just shut up and said nothing last night

By showing how fng clueless he is he panicked markets even more

Good news is we are getting loser to value range

[btomba_77]

Under 26,000 now

Drop >1000 today

[joshua.glaze_811]

My calculations might be wrong, but we are -12% from the 52 week high.
I think that we are going to -18% to -22%.
 
That’s a 10% normal correction + a 10% corona drop.
That range should be an unprecedented buying op.
Big companies can weather the storm… Little will not. Even better for the deep pockets.
 
 
 

[Unknown Member]

Fair value is 24-25000 on the Dow

[kayla.meyer_144]

Well right now besides outright pearl-clutching panic, the markets are concerned about supply from China which has essentially closed down production quite a bit. It all depends on how quickly things could and will ramp up again. We’re within the top 20 market drops in history. How far to the top 5?
 
I think the one thing this does prove which Trump’s tariff wars did not, is not to put all of your manufacturing eggs in one China basket. 
 
And now the market is also hoping the Fed will cut rates again as seen ib Treasury yields. But should the Fed cut rates for COVID-19 panic? What would that solve in the fundamentals? Nothing I think.

[yao.bw39_792]

Gains from last 2 years gone on the DOW.

[katiemckee84_223]

It’s not a “correction” if it is something beyond intrinsic valuation, it is panic selling as a result of an outlook that affects companies from the outside — or so they believe. Corrections are pullbacks from highs based on overvaluations, presumably. This is a pullback based on a perceived shock to the system, what may eventually be called a black swan event, [i]in retrospect[/i].

[btomba_77]

Fastest correction in history.

Futures set to open with Down down >400 points…. 25,100-ish
 
[link=https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-02-28/coronavirus-the-markets-are-pricing-in-a-pandemic-recession?srnd=premium]Markets Are Now Pricing in a Coronavirus Recession[/link]

[Unknown Member]

I rarely say trade

….. but today I make some money

[joshua.glaze_811]

FANG holding strong today….

[btomba_77]

Dow down through 25,000 on its way to 24k

[Unknown Member]

24-25,000 is fair value for this market

Anything cheaper is a long term bargain

[btomba_77]

Quote from kpack123

24-25,000 is fair value for this market

Anything cheaper is a long term bargain

I would expect it to fall again late in the day today.
 
No one is going to want to be stuck in their positions over the weekend

[joshua.glaze_811]

That’s the problem…..Sell or Hold….
Prob a good time for some options….

[kaldridgewv2211]

The chart looks like a cliff. Ive been watching Apple. Its shed about 50 from the high. I wouldnt mind dumping my tax return into some more shares. How low can she go?

[Unknown Member]

I agree dergon

No one wants to hold over a weekend of uncertainty

I dont day trade much but I am today

Im dumping by 3-3:30 before the sell off starts

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from kpack123

I agree dergon

No one wants to hold over a weekend of uncertainty

I dont day trade much but I am today

[i][b]Im dumping by 3-3:30 before the sell off starts [/b][/i]

 
You made so much by predicting it wrong. Let me guess, after you got your arse handed to you, you came on here and acted like you made money. Typical kpack, the liar, now he’ll call me a liar by making up sheet
 
But a couple posts up is all the evidence you need. RIGHT there sir. You got nailed. Sorry, wrong again.

[Unknown Member]

I made 30grand day trading in my tax free accounts yesterday

You stupid F

More than you make in 3 months

[Unknown Member]

Nostradumbarse

There are lanes in life

You are in a different lane than me and many on this board

Perhaps thats why you come across as so assinine

[katiemckee84_223]

Your post clowned you, thank you for making it obvious to all the others, you played yourself. Now just admit it and we can move on.
 
So what’s gonna happen this week, you clearly couldn’t see the late Friday buybacks, or the AH gain in futures, lol
 
Tell me, you get nailed then call me names like Nostra, lololololol
 
you da dummy, lololololol
 
you’re in the sidecar lane, and Batman had enough, so you wheeled off a cliff

[Unknown Member]

Well Batman made 30 grand in his Ira in 6 hours Friday

Again more than you make in 4-5 months

[Unknown Member]

Hahahaha

[katiemckee84_223]

When people can read, it’s not smart to keep lying about buying air
 
you lost, again
 
“[i][b]I’m dumping 3-3:30, right when the selloff starts[/b][/i]” (above, Friday)
 
They bought like banshees. So sorry. Lucky you don’t play options, otherwise it was a kbuttblast

[Unknown Member]

Out

5 swings of 400 points or more today

Day traders dream day

Easy money day just playing emotions

[katiemckee84_223]

Up late, up AH dow futures
 
hahaha, kpack loses again
 
the quintessential shaking out weak hands, yup, Dr. Kpack at your service
 
talking all that smack, another post exposing him

[Unknown Member]

You know whats funny

Sitting on my arse … I probably made today in 6 hrs what you make in 3 months

Hahahaha

[Unknown Member]

What’s so hard about admitting you dumped when you should’ve held.
 
It’s a risk when you trade on emotion that we all know.  Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.  It’s not a strategy I use, but when you use it, take your lumps and admit you were wrong.  No shame in that.

[katiemckee84_223]

This is what I’ve been saying for years, yet look at the exchange. I make predictions, I’ve been right on a lot of them, some were life time predictions or changing, some I got wrong … but I would have no problem even with these guys thinking I’m their enemy if they were just a smidgen honest
 
they never give credit where it’s due, they look at others with opposing views as mini “Orange Man Bad” NPC stuff
 
kpack got exposed in like 3 posts and I called him on it, then the name calling came … what’s worse is that he got the call totally wrong, then claimed to actually [b]MAKE[/b] money 
 
LOLOLOLOL!

[Unknown Member]

Held what?????

I was trading with excess cash in on tax deferred account

My core holding never were involved

Fist off I rarely say trade and dont advocate it but last Thursday and fridays were gifts with all the program trades and momentum swings

My cash balance was up 30,000$ at the end of the day

So again I say to you….. stay in your lane because you dont enough to even sound smart

[kaldridgewv2211]

Not at all understanding the expectation or call (from Trump) for the Federal Reserve to do something on interest rates.  It’s not a natural disaster, we’re not losing production abilities.  It’s a virus slump.  Cutting rates puts them in a worse position do be able to respond if they ever need to actually cut rates.  

[katiemckee84_223]

my MSFT calls blasted your lyin’ booty, kpack, I bought in on Friday when you said sell … and we added another 1200 day to the DOW!
 
I love how you guys didn’t post about that amazing 2 day come back
 
So dishonest, so obviously hacking left and right it’s so much fun calling liars out

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from DICOM_Dan

Not at all understanding the expectation or call (from Trump) for the Federal Reserve to do something on interest rates.  It’s not a natural disaster, we’re not losing production abilities.  It’s a virus slump.  Cutting rates puts them in a worse position do be able to respond if they ever need to actually cut rates.  

 
Dicom, I agree. At least right now, no rate cut is needed, as it wouldn’t even make technical sense.

[Unknown Member]

Fed cut 50 basis points

Bold move but nothing left in the tank if things get worse

[Unknown Member]

What an over-reaction by the Fed.   And cutting it 50 basis points?  Agree with IB – this makes no sense. We have/had a temporary production disruption.  Reportedly Apple’s Chinese operations are already back online.

[Unknown Member]

Yep trump said it was all a democratic hoax

[btomba_77]

Quote from raduser1

What an over-reaction by the Fed.   And cutting it 50 basis points?  Agree with IB – this makes no sense. We have/had a temporary production disruption.  Reportedly Apple’s Chinese operations are already back online.

And the market still drops 500.

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from raduser1

What an over-reaction by the Fed.   And cutting it 50 basis points?  Agree with IB – this makes no sense. We have/had a temporary production disruption.  Reportedly Apple’s Chinese operations are already back online.

 
I am not that worried, but some do make compelling arguments and the fact the rate cut did little to nothing is very intawesting
 
I just bought 2022 options on gold, no reason not to as I see it going up with the market, or flying if things get panicky
 
My feeling is still that come spring and summer this all goes away, but the Fed has very little as far as bullets in the chamber. I’m still sticking with my Trump 2nd term larger market drop about 2021-22; I don’t see it this year but who knows

[Unknown Member]

Blubbering idiot calling for negative interest rates now

[kayla.meyer_144]

Free stuff!

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from kpack123

Blubbering idiot calling for negative interest rates now

 
It can’t happen anyway, I’ve heard from quite a few that the Federal Reserve Act doesn’t allow it — it’d be a fight, at the very least. I don’t see them doing it, anyway — unless Congress does some brainless legislation to go negative — then we’re in real no man’s land

[Unknown Member]

Quote from Intermittent Blasting

Quote from kpack123

Blubbering idiot calling for negative interest rates now

It can’t happen anyway, I’ve heard from quite a few that the Federal Reserve Act doesn’t allow it — it’d be a fight, at the very least. I don’t see them doing it, anyway — unless Congress does some brainless legislation to go negative — then we’re in real no man’s land

Congress doing “brainless legislation” wouldn’t be the first, or last, time that happened.

[Unknown Member]

Haha, markets up again
 
Silence from the doomsayer idiots who support the walking dead and brainless child killers, like RGB and Biden — just like was posted last night. Awesome stuff!

[Unknown Member]

Its good when the markets are up. Despite trumps blubbering idiocy on corona virus that spooked markets

Some banks and financials are reasonable

Too bad you have no money to make money Nostradumbarse

Hows that gold treating you?

Hahahaha

[Unknown Member]

Quote from kpack123

Hows that gold treating you?
Hahahaha

 
It’s funny when Gold is up and kbutt is getting rammed

[kaldridgewv2211]

Quote from Castlevania

Haha, markets up again

Silence from the doomsayer idiots who support the walking dead and brainless child killers, like RGB and Biden — just like was posted last night. Awesome stuff!

A lot of the financial reporting is that the markets are responding favorably to Biden winning.  Favorable to Biden.  I think that’s probably impossible to prove but any one other than Trump should be able to stabilize the WH.  That’s got to be a thorn in Trump’s behind if he’s ready that.  

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from Castlevania

Haha, markets up again

Silence from the doomsayer idiots who support the walking dead and brainless child killers, like RGB and Biden — just like was posted last night. Awesome stuff!

You should go into financial advice. As the market drops 13% and “recovers” by 2%, you can ask the investor, 
 
“Why so serious?” “You just got back 2% of your losses!”
 
Thanks to your great advice!

[btomba_77]

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[btomba_77]

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[kaldridgewv2211]

Looking like Trump’s owning all the biggest drops in the history of the market.  Another bad haircut today -900 DJI

[Unknown Member]

Again, silence when markets are up 1200, posting then commences when another roller coaster ride begins, but only the downside.
 
Bias for the uneducated, yet these claim to be educated. Weird world.

[Unknown Member]

Best time to look at markets is when they are down

In fact its sometimes easier to make money in down markets when good companies get beat up for no good reason

Again stay in your lane.

You probably have one account with a couple of bumblearse funds in it

You sound stupid when you run your mouth about what you dont know

[katiemckee84_223]

^ all kpack does is run his mouth, which is what’s funny, it’s always projections
 
he’s made all manner of predictions, nearly all have been wrong, and he has the nerve to tell another guy “stay in your lane”
 
lol
 
You are in the sidecar, bozo — no one lets you drive, let alone be in the dumb (yet fast) lane

[joshua.glaze_811]

Give it a rest and show some respect to the rest of us. It’s all been said before. Over and over again. It’s good times… At least for me and imaging in general. I’ll be 60ft under in 2 hrs.

[Unknown Member]

Wells Fargo is 37$ pre market

Yielding over 5%

Youza

[btomba_77]

Quote from Castlevania

Again, silence when markets are up 1200, posting then commences when another roller coaster ride begins, but only the downside.

See image above.
 
(And it only takes a brief perusal of this thread to realize that people post positives at new highs or with good returns as well as negatives)

[btomba_77]

Also, I’ll freely admit that I thought Trump would be bad for markets in late 2016/ early 2017.
 
That’s why what I think on a day-to-day basis plays absolutely no roll in how my portfolio is constructed.  You can probably find a dozen posts on AM of me saying over the years “Don’t let your politics affect your investing.”
 
The only person I recall doing that was good old [b]RVU[/b] who said he went to cash in 2011… because he thought the Obama re-elect meant the end of America and a “hyperinflationary death spiral”
 
 

[Unknown Member]

Honestly I thought trump would have Fd it up sooner than he did

[btomba_77]

Markets shrug off a strong jobs report and look past it to the next post-corona numbers.
 
The markets can live with either Joe or Trump … so the politics for now is a bit settled.
 
 
It’s pretty much down to fundamentals….. Fed vs Virus

[Unknown Member]

Whats weird is the swings arent really affecting big tech or drugs much but other sectors are getting killed for no good reason

Good time to watch and have cash ready

[kayla.meyer_144]

Truly. Wall Street is down on everything in their panic. Wall Street is at risk of creating the recession with their panic, forget the fundamentals. 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Hey kpack, cigar/F@gan/IB/I-AM-LEGION is FINALLY correct about GOLD! Futures going UP proving the strength of Trump’s economy!

[Unknown Member]

Still not smelling 3500

[btomba_77]

Stocks plunge, oil down 31% (worst since Gulf War 1)

[kayla.meyer_144]

They fell fast enough last night to trigger s stop.

[Unknown Member]

Crazy sheet
This is the once every 10-15 year event

Republicans always eventually F up markets

[Unknown Member]

One thing about George W Bush

He was smart enough to know that he wasnt smart enough to handle the 2008 financial crisis

He stepped back and let Hank Paulson call the shots

This trump is to egotistical to admit he cant handle this and every time he opens his mouth he makes it worse

[btomba_77]

Circuit breaker kicked … Down > 7% ….
 
Down down 1,884 when it stopped trading

[kaldridgewv2211]

Dow 17000 so close is starting to look like the path and not in a good way like when this was posted.

[Unknown Member]

The trump dump

[btomba_77]

Dow now 10% above inauguration 2017 level

[kaldridgewv2211]

we actual still get a pension here but they happened to peg the return to treasuries a few years back..  So that’s working out nicely.