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[link=https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/14/police-reform-police-unions-qualified-immunity-democratic-party-420122]https://www.politico.com/…emocratic-party-420122[/link]
[h2]Democrats Coming Civil War Over Police Unions[/h2] [b]How far is the party of labor willing to go to confront them in the name of racial justice?
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[/b]I am fine with the ability of labor to negotiate on salary and work conditions. But if we allow police unions to negotiate terms in their contract to avoid public accountability and transparency, we will never get to a just system.
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First start with Obama/Comey/Brennan/Clinton/Page/Strzok/Rice
you allow those to avoid all accountability and transparency
Democrats again causing all the problems, which is hysterical
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Biden to order DOJ to end private prison contracts as part of racial equity push
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Good. Prisons should not be for-profit. Any more than military and other such. Healthcare? It skews the whole purpose of prisons and cost as the for-profits have to look to always keep & increase profits. Anti-crime is hardly their job business plan. And lower costs always translates into decreasing labor costs like income and benefits, not lower crime.
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Biden to order DOJ to end private prison contracts as part of racial equity push
Well, given the impending period of peace and tranquility, and after Biden promptly grants clemency to 100eds of thousands of nonviolent drug offenders, we probably won’t need that capacity for a while.
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[h1]House Passes Expansive Police Reform Bill[/h1]
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-floyd-police-reform-bill-vote/2021/03/03/5ea9ba3a-7c6c-11eb-85cd-9b7fa90c8873_story.html?wpmk=1&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics–alert-national&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert&pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk2Y2U0M2ZhZGU0ZTI0MTE5ZDhkMjU0IiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vcG9saXRpY3MvZ2VvcmdlLWZsb3lkLXBvbGljZS1yZWZvcm0tYmlsbC12b3RlLzIwMjEvMDMvMDMvNWVhOWJhM2EtN2M2Yy0xMWViLTg1Y2QtOWI3ZmE5MGM4ODczX3N0b3J5Lmh0bWw_d3Btaz0xJndwaXNyYz1hbF9uZXdzX19hbGVydC1wb2xpdGljcy0tYWxlcnQtbmF0aW9uYWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1hbGVydCZ1dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj13cF9uZXdzX2FsZXJ0X3JldmVyZSZsb2NhdGlvbj1hbGVydCJ9.5rBhnTA1BCU9eioXZxmzyExxPWc9JoFWt52dNbE87x4]Washington Post[/link] The George Floyd Justice in Policing Act”The bill passed 220-212 along mostly party lines with two Democrats voting against it and one Republican voting for it.
The legislation would ban chokeholds, end racial and religious profiling, establish a national database to track police misconduct and prohibit certain no-knock warrants. It also contains several provisions that would make it easier to hold officers accountable for misconduct in civil and criminal court. One proposal long sought by civil rights advocates would change qualified immunity, the legal doctrine that shields officers from lawsuits, by lowering the bar for plaintiffs to sue officers for alleged civil rights violations.
President Biden praised the bill on Wednesday in a virtual call with House Democrats. The White House said Monday that it supports the legislation and that the president looks forward to working with the Congress to enact a landmark policing reform law.
To make our communities safer, we must begin by rebuilding trust between law enforcement and the people they are entrusted to serve and protect, the White House said. We cannot rebuild that trust if we do not hold police officers accountable for abuses of power and tackle systemic misconduct and systemic racism in police departments.
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[link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-makes-it-easier-sue-big-companies-police-n1262055]Supreme Court makes it easier to sue police
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{T}he court ruled 5-3 that police can be sued for using excessive force, even when it fails to stop someone from fleeing. The case involved a New Mexico woman, Roxanne Torres, who drove away from a parking lot when police approached to question her.
Thinking they might be carjackers, not police officers, she sped away. They fired 13 shots, hitting her twice in the back. She sued, claiming they used excessive force, making the shooting unconstitutional under the Fourth Amendment’s protection against unreasonable seizures.Jeffrey Bellin, a professor at William & Mary Law School, said Thursday’s decision will make it easier to sue for excessive police force at a time when the country is increasingly concerned with police violence.
“The ruling that a ‘seizure’ occurred in this case means that more unjustified police shootings and other uses of force can be found to violate the Constitution.”
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[b]California Supreme Court Rules that keeping someone in prison solely because of inability to pay bail is unconstitutional[/b]
The California Supreme Court on Thursday [link=https://www.courts.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S247278.PDF]unanimously ruled[/link] that judges must consider a suspect’s ability to pay when setting bail, essentially suggesting that non-dangerous defendants who cannot afford bail should be released under other conditions.
The common practice of conditioning freedom solely on whether an arrestee can afford bail is unconstitutional, Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar wrote in the unanimous opinion.
The justice specifically noted other conditions under which defendants can be released, including electronic monitors, regular check-ins, community shelters and drug and alcohol treatment.
Other conditions of release such as electronic monitoring, regular check-ins with a pretrial case manager, community housing or shelter, and drug and alcohol treatment can in many cases protect public and victim safety as well as assure the arrestees appearance at trial, the justice wrote.
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545844-washington-state-senate-passes-legislation-to-ban-private-for-profit]Washington state Senate passes legislation to ban private, for-profit prisons[/link]
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[link=https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2021/04/07/new-mexico-prohibits-qualified-immunity-for-all-government-workers-including-police/?sh=58b2d0c179ad]https://www.forbes.com/si…olice/?sh=58b2d0c179ad[/link]
New Mexico Bans Qualified Immunity For All Government Workers, Including Police
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Democratic lawmakers enacted a long-sought bill that creates a new discipline process and gives civilians a role in, but not control of, police misconduct probes. Other measures include a statewide use-of-force policy and a law that would make some complaints about police conduct available for public review.
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There a guy who drove to the Perry Nuclear Power Plant and claimed to have a bomb. Panicking many people. Hes only charged with a 4th degree misdemeanor locally. Not sure why the feds havent scooped him up. Even the judge Is stumped on the charge.
[link]https://youtu.be/T5k69ub-8Xc[/link]
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/547649-white-house-putting-national-police-oversight-commission-on-hold]White House halts national police oversight commission, will focus on legislation instead
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The White House has put plans to create a national police oversight commission on hold and will instead focus on police reform legislation, domestic policy czar [link=https://thehill.com/people/susan-rice]Susan Rice[/link] said.
Based on close, respectful consultation with partners in the civil rights community, the administration made the considered judgment that a police commission, at this time, would not be the most effective way to deliver on our top priority in this area, which is to sign the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act into law,” Rice said in a statement to [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/11/biden-police-oversight-commission-480931?nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000014e-f115-dd93-ad7f-f91513e50001&nlid=630318]Politico[/link].…
As the ongoing trial in the death of George Floyd makes clear, transforming policing in America is one of the most urgent crises facing the nation today, Wade Henderson, president of the civil rights group Leadership Conference, told the news outlet. We also agree with the White House decision to forgo the creation of a commission to study the problem.
Some civil rights groups had expressed concerns that a police commission would be used as an excuse by senators to stall police reform bills passed by the House, according to Politico.[/QUOTE]
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Merrick Garland has rolled back Trump-era restrictions on the Justice Departments ability to force changes at police departments and other local agencies accused of abuse, rescinding Jeff Sessions’s 2018 memo that curtailed the use of consent decrees in such cases.
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this is something that if it’s going to flip flop between POTUS congress should step in and make it a law.
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[b]Justice Brett Kavanaugh pens the majority opinion in Jones v. Mississippi, ruling against the legal precedent that required a separate finding of permanent incorrigibility before minors could be sentenced to life without parole[/b]
[link=https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1385232814619119616]https://twitter.com/mjs_D…us/1385232814619119616[/link]
Today’s decision is a huge blow against the movement to end juvenile life without parole. As Sotomayor correctly notes in her dissent, the court “guts” precedents that had strictly limit JLWOP. This is a major defeat for JLWOP reform.
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Next, reinstate capital punishment for minors. Being a child is no excuse for breaking the law and full punishment should be applied regardless of age.
We need judicial reform that applies law and standard punishment coherently based on facts & not what political tribe you belong. Perhaps Brett Jones is incorrigible and actually deserves life imprisonment for his crime as a 15 y/o but to change the law and precedent to apply to all minors without looking at facts and factors is beyond sick.
Yes, all the Supreme judges go to Church and are very religious believing in Christ’s teachings. Praise be.
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Deleted UserApril 22, 2021 at 6:35 pmBut if we are honest with ourselves, well admit that too many fathers are missing – missing from too many lives and too many homes. They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.
You and I know how true this is in the African-American community.
We know the statistics – that children who grow up without a father are 5 times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; 9 times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. They are more likely to have behavioral problems, or run away from home, or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it.
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But if we are honest with ourselves, well admit that too many fathers are missing – missing from too many lives and too many homes. They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it.
You and I know how true this is in the African-American community.
We know the statistics – that children who grow up without a father are 5 times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; 9 times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison. They are more likely to have behavioral problems, or run away from home, or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundations of our community are weaker because of it.
Hey man back off with that crap. It is the height of white privilege to assume that there should be a working mommy and daddy setting appropriate boundaries of behavior. Kids always fight with knives out in the street …doesnt that happen in your neighborhood?
There should have been a Prius of social workers rolling up to that scene. And while the stabbing was going on, the social workers would be scolding these kids for not wearing masks during their disagreement. The children would have been immediately receptive as conscious woke young people. Nobody would die if Columbus or anywhere went copless!!
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[b]Most Americans Support Greater Scrutiny of Police[/b][/h1]
A new [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/23/poll-police-bias-floyd/]ABC News poll[/link] shows that 63% of Americans do not feel that Black people and minorities receive equal treatment as white people in the criminal justice system.
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[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/09/rep-clyburn-says-qualified-immunity-doesnt-have-be-part-policing-reform-bill/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics]Rep. Clyburn says qualified immunity doesnt have to be part of policing reform bill
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Clyburns remarks were a departure from members of his own party who, along with civil rights activists, have pushed for the doctrine to be eliminated or changed. Qualified immunity has become the biggest sticking point in negotiations on police reform legislation between Democrats and Republicans, who have proposed preserving qualified immunity for individual officers and instead holding local governments liable when officers harm people.
President Biden has called for action on the legislation by May 25, the first anniversary of the murder of Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer.
Since then, a bipartisan group of lawmakers has sought to reach a deal. A [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/29/joe-biden-live-updates/#link-X446UE3EAVEDPDH7Z3BKNUMTOE?itid=lk_inline_manual_17]recent meeting[/link] included Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.Y.), Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.), Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-N.J.), as well as Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) and Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.).
Afterward, many confirmed that qualified immunity, as well as whether the standard for federal civil rights prosecutions of officers should be lowered, remained the key sticking points that have kept the Senate from taking up the legislation. However, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle struck an upbeat note.[/QUOTE]
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What do police in other countries think of American policing?
No much at all.
Excellent video.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/12/opinion/police-officers-usa-global.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/12/opinion/police-officers-usa-global.html[/link]
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[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/us/politics/biden-pardons-racial-justice.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…ns-racial-justice.html[/link]
[b]Biden Is Developing a Pardon Process With a Focus on Racial Justice[/b]
[b] [/b] As a senator, he backed legislation that led to mass incarceration and long drug sentences. Now his administration is signaling that he could use clemency to address inequities.
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[h1][b]Police Reform Talks Have Broken Down[/b][/h1]
[link=https://email.punchbowl.news/t/ViewEmail/t/5DEF37E1A2BBB2F92540EF23F30FEDED/F0FBF4A26141BC72E89F0E32AAFB68BF]Punchbowl News[/link]: Nearly a month after GOP and Democratic negotiators said theyd reached an agreement on a framework addressing the major issues, the discussions have stalled out, according to the sources we spoke to on Wednesday.
Sens. Cory Booker (D-NJ) and Tim Scott (R-SC) havent made any breakthroughs, despite positive public comments from both. The news coverage has also dwindled. Much more of the focus now is on rising crime rates, not fixing policing, and the politics look to have shifted as well.
One source close to the issue said the talks are on life support, and the ventilator isnt working.
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[link=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/blue-wall-silence/619612/?scrolla=5eb6d68b7fedc32c19ef33b4]Adam Serwer[/link]:
[h1]The Capitol Rioters Attacked Police. Why Isn’t the FOP Outraged?[/h1] [b]Police unions arent usually bashful about defending officers, but theyve been conspicuously subdued in discussing the January 6 attacks.[/b]The FOP does not often have to clarify its position on matters of public concern; the organization is usually rather strident in expressing its views …What you wont find on the national FOP Twitter feed, however, are condemnations of the Capitol rioters who attacked police officers on January 6 deploying this sort of unrestrained bombast. You wont find any clips of FOP members on Fox News confronting its prime-time hosts for mocking the testimony of police officers who faced the mob that day. You wont even find the FOP highlighting the compelling testimony of those officers, whose recollections paint a vivid picture of the rioters and their motives. You will find only the FOPs careful statement seeking to clear up confusion about its position, a deeply unusual situation for the FOP to be in.
The FOP has many reasons to remain quiet. Much of its rank-and-file membership is strongly supportive of Trump, whom the organization [link=https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/blue-endorsements-matter-how-the-fraternal-order-of-police-contributed-to-donald-trumps-victory/50B2E320D5D86250D9DFD51309A5A62A]endorsed and worked to elect[/link] in 2016 and 2020. FOP leaders also know that some off-duty officers were in the mob, and might not want to suggest that they should be fired or prosecuted. And they probably also do not want to antagonize right-wing voters who will reflexively support their members as long as any police abuses are aimed at the communities those voters hate and fear.
[b]All of these reasons, however, are a tremendous indictment of police unions in general and the FOP in particular. [/b]The group has placed its parochial interests ahead of the needs of the public, from whom police derive their authority, and ahead of its sworn brothers and sisters in Washington, who drew the wrath of a political constituency that police unions would prefer not to antagonize. If a commitment to law and order does not include support for the peaceful and democratic transition of power, it is meaningless.
…Perhaps the nations largest police union simply does not see trying to overthrow an election in the name of Donald Trump as such a betrayal. But a commitment to democracy is not a position that an organization representing armed agents of the state should ever have to clarify. That it did so only through gritted teeth gives the public little reason to trust its sincerity.
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How many policemen were arrested for the insurrection?
How many police not part of the Capital Police force actually sympathize & support the insurrection?
Theres the answer. Not exactly those few bad apples that keep showing up in police abuse & now the insurrection.
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[b]Bipartisan Police-Overhaul Talks End With No Deal[/b][/h1]
Bipartisan talks aimed at overhauling police tactics and accountability have ended with no agreement, the top Democratic negotiator said, with lawmakers unable to reach a compromise in the wake of nationwide protests sparked by the killings of Black Americans by law-enforcement officers, the [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/bipartisan-police-overhaul-talks-end-with-no-deal-11632330043?mod=searchresults_pos1&page=1]Wall Street Journal[/link] reports.
Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) said Wednesday that he called Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) to tell him the Democrats were done negotiating after Mr. Scott didnt accept their final offer. Mr. Scotts office didnt immediately comment.
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[h2][link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/23/republicans-prove-they-never-really-wanted-police-reform-theyre-wrong-side-history/]Republicans prove they never really wanted police reform.[/link][/h2]
The Republicans chose as their lead negotiator Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.), the only African American GOP senator. Scott has spoken with some eloquence about his own mistreatment by police. At times Ive entertained the possibility that he might actually be sincere in wanting to get a reform bill passed. The cynical and misleading statement he released Wednesday, however, disabused me of any such notion.
Despite having plenty of agreement, Democrats said no because they could not let go of their push to defund our law enforcement, [link=https://www.scott.senate.gov/media-center/press-releases/scott-statement-on-police-reform-negotiations]Scott claimed[/link]. That is a lie.…
As the Democrats chief negotiator, Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.), has made abundantly clear [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/25/magazine/cory-booker-outfoxed-republicans-on-defund-the-police-now-what.html]to the point of hamming it up on the Senate floor[/link] Democrats are not seeking to defund the police, despite what Fox News may be telling its viewers. Last month, in passing a $3.5 trillion budget resolution, Senate Democrats voted unanimously for a Republican amendment to slash federal funds for any municipality that defunds its police department. This is not a real issue, and Scott knows it.
…Republicans did not want to be at odds with the National Sheriffs’ Association, which took a more hard-line position against meaningful changes to existing protections {to qualified immunity for law enforcement}. Sheriffs [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/police-reform-negotiations-congress-are-teetering-collapse-cops-may-be-n1272555]play a particularly powerful role[/link] in Scotts state.
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[h1][b]Police Pushback against Tim Scott[/b][/h1]
[link=https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2021/09/28/dems-prepare-to-go-it-alone-494503?nname=playbook-pm&nid=0000015a-dd3e-d536-a37b-dd7fd8af0000&nrid=0000014e-f0ed-dd93-ad7f-f8edad790000&nlid=964328]Playbook[/link]:The International Association of Chiefs of Police and the National Fraternal Order of Police [link=https://twitter.com/GLFOP/status/1442870863498407945/photo/1]put out a statement[/link] this morning explicitly saying that the police reform proposal that collapsed would not have defunded the police and would have actually strengthened them.
Thats a pretty strong pushback to lead GOP negotiator Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC), who blamed the death of reform on Democrats trying to defund the police.[/QUOTE]
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Oddly enough. Will vaccine requirements reform the police? Im thinking it will weed out at least some goofballs.
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[link=http://rssfeeds.usatoday.com/~/670182992/0/usatodaycomwashington-topstories~Qualified-immunity-Supreme-Court-sides-with-police-overturns-denial-of-immunity-in-two-cases/]Qualified immunity: Supreme Court sides with police, overturns denial of immunity in two cases
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The [link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/14/biden-commission-weighs-supreme-court-packing-draft-report/8444099002/]Supreme Court sided Monday[/link] with police in two cases in which plaintiffs claimed officers used excessive force, overturning separate lower court rulings that had [link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/21/supreme-court-derek-chauvin-reenergizes-qualified-immunity-debate/7309833002/]allowed the officers to be sued for civil rights violations[/link].
In two unsigned opinions, the court stressed police are entitled to be shielded from liability unless it is “clear to a reasonable officer” that their actions are unlawful. In both cases the court ruled that the officers were entitled to qualified immunity, [link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/21/supreme-court-derek-chauvin-reenergizes-qualified-immunity-debate/7309833002/]the legal doctrine that protects police from liability[/link] for civil rights violations in many circumstances.
In one case, the Supreme Court overturned a lower court ruling that found an officer in California who placed his knee on a prone suspect could be sued. In another, it overturned a lower court ruling that two police officers in Oklahoma could be sued because their actions prior to a fatal shooting escalated the potential for violence. [/QUOTE]
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[b]Anti-Lynching Bill Headed for Bidens Desk[/b][/h1]
The Senate voted by unanimous consent on Monday to pass anti-lynching legislation that would designate lynching as a federal hate crime for the first time in U.S. history, [link=https://www.axios.com/senate-antilynching-bill-36015c48-d9df-44a8-9520-f5ccbfd5130e.html?stream=top&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alerts_all]Axios[/link] reports.