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Coronavirus, politicaleconomic discussion
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Trump says he never said that people with coronavirus should go to work … FAKE NEWS!
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“Don’t go to work and spread it to your co-workers. Don’t go to the gym. Hunker down.” ~ Dr. William Schaffner, infectious diseases, Vanderbilt University Medical Center. -
[b]Trump Insists Less Travel Will Help Economy[/b][/h1] [b]
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Heres how President Trump tried to reassure Americans about the state of the economy during a [link=https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1235712349090263040]Fox News town hall event[/link]:
[blockquote] Well, look, we were set to hit 30,000 on the Dow. This is a number that nobody even came close to. And already we have the number. And even though its down 10 or 11 percent, its still the highest its ever been, by far. It certainly might have an impact. At the same time, I have to say, people are now staying in the United States, spending their money in the U.S. and I like that. People are now staying in the United States, spending their money in the U.S., and I like that. Ive been after that for a long time.
[/blockquote] [link=https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/trump-coronavirus-help-economy-travel-stock-market.html]Jonathan Chait[/link]: This string of sentences is like an onion of stupidity, and peeling back each layer revealed even more stupidity lying beneath.-
Ogres are like parfaits! Or is that onions.
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“we closed it down. We stopped it.” – DJT
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All this work to protect Donald’s feelings of failure. Maybe someone needs to buy some paper towels form Costco for him to throw at the CDC meeting so he can say how President “Only I” fixed everything, & “Take that!” Democratic hoax!
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Lufthansa cuts 50% of its flights
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[b]Fewer Than 2,000 Have Been Tested In U.S.[/b][/h1] [b]
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An analysis by [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-have-been-tested-coronavirus/607597/?preview=3-4FLneYp3QF4ooMLWUN_KtUiR8]The Atlantic[/link] shows that its unlikely many more than 1,895 people have been tested for coronavirus in the United States.
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[link=https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486337-two-baggage-handlers-at-londons-heathrow-airport-test-positive-for]Two baggage handlers at London’s Heathrow airport test positive for coronavirus[/link]
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……. meanwhile BeBest Melanie trump sports a hard hat while planning White House tennis courts
My grandmother was From slovenia …. turns over in her grave
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Kudlow says Americans should “avoid Seattle”
Kellyanne Conway says virus is “being contained”
ID expert from Vanderbilt says people over 60 shouldn’t fly.-
While I do appreciate the attempt to keep us all up to date. Maybe just an end-of-the-day summary would do Dergon 😉
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While I do appreciate the attempt to keep us all up to date. Maybe just an end-of-the-day summary would do Dergon 😉
Read 5 studies… find something to post … read 5 studies … find something to post…
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While I do appreciate the attempt to keep us all up to date. Maybe just an end-of-the-day summary would do Dergon 😉
Perhaps you should request that President Donald twit less often. As often ad dergon posts it is no match for Donald’s twits which have the intended consequences of drastically changing the subject every 15 seconds. Something Donald twitted 3 days ago feels like 3 mos ago he twits so often dragging the “news” with him along.
You pretty well have to keep a running tab just to keep up otherwise you are lost in Donald’s noise. dergon’s posts help to keep up with Donald’s noise.
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Fair enough, if it works for you I got no argument. I’ve been assuming you are just passing on info so I kind of breeze past these.
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Mulvaney the scapegoat for trump fng up the corona virus response
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[h1][b]Why the U.S. Is So Vulnerable to Coronavirus[/b][/h1] [b]
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As the number of coronavirus cases mount in the US, experts are warning that the country is unusually vulnerable to the spread of the disease, the [link=https://www.ft.com/content/00017d02-5f39-11ea-b0ab-339c2307bcd4]Financial Times[/link] reports.
Public health officials and academics are concerned that a mix of high numbers of uninsured people, a lack of paid sick leave, and a political class that has downplayed the threat could mean it spreads more quickly than in other countries.
The spread of coronavirus could be fuelled by patients reluctant to seek care because of the expense of the US healthcare system.
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[h1][b]Trump Interrupts Coronavirus Briefing to Ask About His Ratings, wants Cruise Ships to stay at sea to keep numbers down.[/b][/h1] [b]
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President Trump interrupted a Friday press conference on the 2019 novel coronavirus to ask a Fox News reporter whether his town hall show on Fox on Thursday night had good ratings, the [link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/president-trump-interrupts-coronavirus-briefing-to-ask-fox-reporter-about-his-tv-ratings?ref=home]Daily Beast[/link] reports.
In a rambling briefing that bordered on bizarre, Trump also said coronavirus testing kits were almost as perfect as his infamous phone call with the Ukrainian president and he didnt want infected cruise ship passengers to come ashore in California because it would increase the U.S. tally of COVID-19 cases.
Said Trump: I like the numbers being where they are. I dont need to have the numbers double because of one ship.
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Donald apparently has a “natural ability” to understand medicine!
Just like I said he would brag! He knows this stuff better than all his physicians!
Everyone can retire now, Donald has it all taken care of in his tiny hands. And he didn’t even have to sleep in a Holiday Inn!
I still can’t get over people are actually supporting this total idiot.
“Fool supporters once, shame on Donald,
Fool supporters twice, shame on the supporters!”
President Trump likes to say that he fell into politics almost by accident, and on Friday, as he sought to calm a nation gripped with fears over coronavirus, he suggested he would have thrived in another profession medical expert.
I like this stuff. I really get it, Trump boasted to reporters during a tour of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, where he met with actual doctors and scientists who are feverishly scrambling to contain and combat the deadly illness. Citing a great, super-genius uncle who taught at MIT, Trump professed that it must run in the family genes.
People are really surprised I understand this stuff, he said. Every one of these doctors said, How do you know so much about this? Maybe I have a natural ability.
And he described coronavirus testing kits which his administration has been criticized for being slow to distribute as beautiful and said they were as perfect as his Ukraine phone call last summer that led him to be impeached.
The upshot was that the self-proclaimed medical savant came off looking less interested in his administrations unsteady efforts to mitigate the spread of the virus than he was in bolstering his own status in a campaign year.
Redfield said the agency had sent out 75,000 kits. Then Trump jumped in: Anybody who wants a test will get a test, thats the bottom line. A few moments later, he jokingly compared the situation to his phone call last summer in which he had pressured Ukraines president to launch an investigation into Democratic presidential candidate [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/candidates/joe-biden/?tid=lk_inline_manual_20&itid=lk_inline_manual_20]Joe Biden[/link] and his son.
The tests are all perfect, like the letter was perfect, the transcription was perfect, right? Trump said. This was not as perfect as that, but pretty good.How was the show last night? Trump asked a Fox reporter in the room, referring to a Fox News-produced, town hall-style event in Scranton, Pa., that he had participated in the night before.
Did it get good ratings? Trump said. The reporter said he didnt know. Oh, really? Trump continued. I heard it broke all ratings records. But maybe thats wrong. Thats what they told me.
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Donald apparently has a “natural ability” to understand medicine!
Just like I said he would brag! He knows this stuff better than all his physicians!
Everyone can retire now, Donald has it all taken care of in his tiny hands. And he didn’t even have to sleep in a Holiday Inn!
I still can’t get over people are actually supporting this total idiot.
“Fool supporters once, shame on Donald,
Fool supporters twice, shame on the supporters!”
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maybe-i-have-a-natural-ability-trump-plays-medical-expert-on-coronavirus-by-second-guessing-the-professionals/2020/03/06/3ee0574c-5ffb-11ea-9055-5fa12981bbbf_story.html]https://www.washingtonpos…fa12981bbbf_story.html[/link]
President Trump likes to say that he fell into politics almost by accident, and on Friday, as he sought to calm a nation gripped with fears over coronavirus, he suggested he would have thrived in another profession medical expert.
I like this stuff. I really get it, Trump boasted to reporters during a tour of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, where he met with actual doctors and scientists who are feverishly scrambling to contain and combat the deadly illness. Citing a great, super-genius uncle who taught at MIT, Trump professed that it must run in the family genes.
People are really surprised I understand this stuff, he said. Every one of these doctors said, How do you know so much about this? Maybe I have a natural ability.
And he described coronavirus testing kits which his administration has been criticized for being slow to distribute as beautiful and said they were as perfect as his Ukraine phone call last summer that led him to be impeached.
The upshot was that the self-proclaimed medical savant came off looking less interested in his administrations unsteady efforts to mitigate the spread of the virus than he was in bolstering his own status in a campaign year.
Redfield said the agency had sent out 75,000 kits. Then Trump jumped in: Anybody who wants a test will get a test, thats the bottom line. A few moments later, he jokingly compared the situation to his phone call last summer in which he had pressured Ukraines president to launch an investigation into Democratic presidential candidate [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/candidates/joe-biden/?tid=lk_inline_manual_20&itid=lk_inline_manual_20]Joe Biden[/link] and his son.
The tests are all perfect, like the letter was perfect, the transcription was perfect, right? Trump said. This was not as perfect as that, but pretty good.How was the show last night? Trump asked a Fox reporter in the room, referring to a Fox News-produced, town hall-style event in Scranton, Pa., that he had participated in the night before.
Did it get good ratings? Trump said. The reporter said he didnt know. Oh, really? Trump continued. I heard it broke all ratings records. But maybe thats wrong. Thats what they told me.
Always ratings, the most important thing of all!Dr. Donald J. Trump, of course, is the pioneering scientist who first determined that [link=https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/265895292191248385]climate change is a hoax[/link] and, more recently, discovered that [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-a-knight-errant-just-looking-for-his-windmill/2019/04/05/6dc9b4a4-57b9-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_5&itid=lk_inline_manual_5]windmills cause cancer[/link]. In between, he proved that forest fires could be [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/11/18/trump-suggests-californians-can-rake-their-forests-prevent-wildfires-he-is-wrong/?tid=lk_inline_manual_5&itid=lk_inline_manual_5]contained by raking[/link] and identified a previously [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-and-the-black-sharpie/2019/09/06/44202240-d0b9-11e9-b29b-a528dc82154a_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_5&itid=lk_inline_manual_5]unrecognized tropical cyclone pattern[/link]targeting Alabama.
Dr. Trump acquired what he calls a natural instinct for science not through formal education but because [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-surrounded-by-fools/2018/11/19/1ea2791a-ec48-11e8-8679-934a2b33be52_story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_7&itid=lk_inline_manual_7]my uncle was a great professor[/link] at MIT for many years. Sadly, the elder Trump didnt live to see his nephews greatest discoveries in the medical field: The flu shot is basically [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDARZJxzeoY]injecting bad stuff into your body[/link] and [link=https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/5/9/15590962/donald-trump-thinks-exercise-will-kill-you]exercise can shorten your life. [/link]Dr. Trump used his instinctive grasp of medicine to become [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/24/how-donald-trump-made-his-doctors-odd-letter-news-again/?tid=lk_inline_manual_7&itid=lk_inline_manual_7]the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency[/link] with an innate [link=https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/16/donald-trump-could-have-lived-200-years-old-ate-less-hamburgers/]life expectancy[/link] of 200 years.
Maybe this all explains how Trump can look so slim & trim in his Speedo![size=”0″]MAGA![/size]
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Pence cooperates with WA Governor Jay Inslee on coronavirus response:
“As the state of Washington, and the Seattle area in particular, deals with the coronavirus, were going to continue to make sure that you have the full support of every agency in the federal government. We know youre the front line. …We have been working with your governor and with this team in a seamless way.”
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Trump: “I told Mike not to be complimentary to the governor, because that governor is a snake. I said, ‘if youre nice to him he will take advantage.'” -
[link=https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1236055907102011393]https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1236055907102011393[/link]
AZAR tries to explain that more tests are coming, but Trump waves him off to jump in.
TRUMP: Anybody that needs a test gets a test. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good. -
[link=https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486457-cpac-attendee-tests-positive-for-coronavirus]CPAC attendee tests positive for coronavirus[/link]
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Must be a Democratic infiltrator.
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[link=https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486475-trump-administration-overrode-health-officials-recommendation-that-elderly]https://thehill.com/polic…mendation-that-elderly[/link]
[b]Trump administration overrode CDC recommendation that elderly, at-risk populations not fly: AP[/b]
The White House this week batted down a recommendation from health officials that elderly people and those who are physically fragile not fly on commercial airplanes, according to an unnamed official with direct knowledge of the situation.
The Associated Press reported that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) submitted a plan this week with the recommendation as a way to control the spread of the virus. However, administration officials reportedly ordered that that particular provision of the plan be removed.
The Trump administration has since then suggested that those who are most susceptible to the virus not travel, but, according the news source have stopped short of stronger guidance laid out by the CDC.
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STEPHANOPOULOS: The Grand Princess is docking tomorrow. What’s the plan for the 3,500 people on board?
BEN CARSON: They’re coming up with one.
STEPHANOPOULOS It docks tomorrow.
Carson: The plan will be in place.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Shouldn’t you be able to say what it is?
Carson: It hasn’t been fully formulated.
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We dont know WTF we are doing. We are trying to figure it out!
OJT – On the Job Training
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[h3][link=https://www.news4jax.com/health/2020/03/08/state-department-urges-us-citizens-to-avoid-cruise-ship-travel/]State Department urges US citizens to avoid cruise ship travel[/link][/h3] [b]Passengers on Cruise Ships[/b]
U.S. citizens, particularly travelers with underlying health conditions, should not travel by cruise ship. CDC notes increased risk of infection of COVID-19 in a cruise ship environment. In order to curb the spread of COVID-19, many countries have implemented strict screening procedures that have denied port entry rights to ships and prevented passengers from disembarking. In some cases, local authorities have permitted disembarkation but subjected passengers to local quarantine procedures. While the U.S. government has evacuated some cruise ship passengers in recent weeks, repatriation flights should not be relied upon as an option for U.S. citizens under the potential risk of quarantine by local authorities.
This is a fluid situation. CDC notes that older adults and travelers with underlying health issues should avoid situations that put them at increased risk for more severe disease. This entails avoiding crowded places, avoiding non-essential travel such as long plane trips, and especially avoiding embarking on cruise ships. Passengers with plans to travel by cruise ship should contact their cruise line companies directly for further information and continue to monitor the Travel.state.gov website and see the latest information from the CDC
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Reporting now that Ted Cruz will voluntary self-quarantine after being in contact with the CPAC attendee who has tested positive for Covid
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The person I share an office with just left for a cruise. Doesnt that just figure. Its like please stay away for a month or so.
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Coronavirus shows definitively why it is important to elect intelligent & competent leaders over demagogues. Trump is a failure as such a leader & we are all likely to suffer for it.
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The person I share an office with just left for a cruise. Doesnt that just figure. Its like please stay away for a month or so.
Yay! A floating petri dish.
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Never let a good crisis go to waste…
[link=https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/09/trump-team-policy-border-china-tax-124166]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/09/trump-team-policy-border-china-tax-124166[/link]
[/h2] [b]Political and economic damage from the coronavirus crisis is mounting. Some Trump officials see the moment as an opportunity to finally deliver on promises including border restrictions, isolating China and broader tax cuts.[/b]
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[h4][link=https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486546-paul-gosar-says-hes-under-self-quarantine-after-interacting-with-person-at]Paul Gosar says he’s under ‘self-quarantine’ after interacting with person at CPAC who now has coronavirus[/link][/h4]
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Trump needs to declare a national emergency ASAP
Its no longer contained and although the seriousness of an infection is not really know and may turn out to be another flu-type season its best to get out in front early
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Trump needs to declare a national emergency ASAP
Its no longer contained and although the seriousness of an infection is not really know and may turn out to be another flu-type season its best to get out in front early
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Trump did – back on January 31st.
[link=https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/01/31/801686524/trump-declares-coronavirus-a-public-health-emergency-and-restricts-travel-from-c]https://www.npr.org/secti…estricts-travel-from-c[/link]-
[b][i]Trump did – back on January 31st.[/i][/b]
Not true. Public health vs national emergency is not the same thing. [b][i][b] [/b][/i][/b]-
The White House needs to muzzle Trump. His comments are outright ridiculous. Pence does a much better job w messaging. Trump needs to smarten up on his handling this because this will prevent his re-election. It needs to start w him by canceling all his upcoming rallies. They need to take a serious look at at events drawing crowds such as NBA games, NHL games and especially NCAA March Madness. NCAA in particular draws a lot of travel from all over the country. Travel seems to be a common denominator in all this.
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Calling a national emergency would open up funding for dedicated testing centers in all major cities amongst other things
That would be the first step in minimizing a pandemic
Denial is not going to make this go away
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Yup. Public perception has reached an inflection point. At or near the point where better off saying eff it, all non-essential travel and events are cancelled until we know more.
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I’ve got ticket in Toronto for [i]Hamilton[/i] in a few weeks. That’s the only city travel I have planned.
After that it’s all just getting up to an isolated island in north Ontario for the summer.
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Hamilton in Toronto????
Thats interesting
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I’ve got ticket in Toronto for [i]Hamilton[/i] in a few weeks. That’s the only city travel I have planned.
After that it’s all just getting up to an isolated island in north Ontario for the summer.
As long they don’t close the US/Canada border I’m ok
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Hamilton in Toronto????
Thats interesting
Show cancelled. Theatres in Toronto going dark. 🙁
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The White House needs to muzzle Trump. His comments are outright ridiculous. Pence does a much better job w messaging. Trump needs to smarten up on his handling this because this will prevent his re-election.
[/Quote]Telling Trump not to talk about something is like telling your dog not to scratch his balls.
They need to take a serious look at at events drawing crowds such as NBA games, NHL games and especially NCAA March Madness. NCAA in particular draws a lot of travel from all over the country. Travel seems to be a common denominator in all this.
From what we know, it’s not something that one infected person would spread to a large crowd. Yes, it’s travel related, but the spread still tends to be among persons in close contact, like the crew in the cramped crew-quarters on a cruise ship or among family.
I went to an NBA game last night. 4 courtside seats that someone couldn’t use. Was very conscious about what I touched etc. I guess if I die, I’ll be a martyr for the cause of basketball.
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Obviously you didnt hear about the biogen conference last month in Boston
Perhaps FOX news didnt tell you about the spread at the conference
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I love the idea of this as “pandemic”
It’ll scare markets, but that’s because of the existing economic conditions/governments/joke central banks/etc
Biologically this is pretty much a nothing burger, for any normal person. There will always be a blame session when some unfit old bag like kpack dies. That’s just America — especially if you have TDS -
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Obviously you didnt hear about the biogen conference last month in Boston
I did. Persons in close contact in a series of management meetings. Your point is what ?
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What did you wear a mask and dress in a plastic baggie????
My point
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[b][i]Trump did – back on January 31st.[/i][/b]
Not true. Public health vs national emergency is not the same thing. [b][i][b] [/b][/i][/b]
Thanks Ixrayu, I stand corrected.
“A [b]public health emergency[/b] is a lesser event than a [b]national emergency[/b], which triggers a rapid outlay of [b]federal[/b] money to address the [b]emergency[/b]. [b]National emergencies[/b] also give great power to the president, allowing the president to do things such as activate the [b]National[/b] Guard.”-
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[b][i]Trump did – back on January 31st.[/i][/b]
Not true. Public health vs national emergency is not the same thing. [b][i][b] [/b][/i][/b]
Thanks Ixrayu, I stand corrected.
“A [b]public health emergency[/b] is a lesser event than a [b]national emergency[/b], which triggers a rapid outlay of [b]federal[/b] money to address the [b]emergency[/b]. [b]National emergencies[/b] also give great power to the president, allowing the president to do things such as activate the [b]National[/b] Guard.”
State governors in the states that are affected can already do that.
NG has lots of resources that can come in handy with this. Dealing with materials from a quarantine center isn’t all that different from dealing with a NBC incident.
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Trumps pretty much fng this up every time he blubbers something
He should just go on vacation for a month or two
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He wanted to keep Princess from landing
because I like the numbers being where they are. I dont need to have the numbers double because of one ship.
All hes concerned about is appearances.
I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, How do you know so much about this? Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.
Yeah maybe. We are looking at the worst example of the Peter Principle imaginable.
The man is dangerously ignorant.
Worst of all is the ignorance of people who put him there & then cant accept the error of their original stupidity & want to re-elect him.
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No worries at all
FOX NEWS is fixated on megAn and harry today
Dont tell the lemmings that the markets are taking the Trump dump
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The White House needs to muzzle Trump. His comments are outright ridiculous.
Good luck w that. Ridiculous is this administration. A package deal.
Too bad the virus does not have a Twit account.
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Calling a national emergency would open up funding for dedicated testing centers in all major cities amongst other things
That would be the first step in minimizing a pandemic
Also frees up the money to finish the wall. 2 birds, one stone, done!
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[h1]Matt Gaetz Will Self-Quarantine[/h1]
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), who made light of the coronavirus outbreak by wearing a gas mask, is now self-quarantining after coming into contact with a person who tested positive for the coronavirus.
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Doug Collins Will Self-Quarantine[/h1]
Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA) announced that he would self-quarantine at his home after coming into contact with a person who later tested positive for the novel coronavirus, [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/house/486666-doug-collins-to-self-quarantine-after-coming-in-contact-with-coronavirus]The Hill[/link] reports.
Said Collins: This afternoon, I was notified by CPAC that they discovered a photo of myself and the patient who has tested positive for coronavirus. While I feel completely healthy and I am not experiencing any symptoms, I have decided to self-quarantine at my home for the remainder of the 14-day period out of an abundance of caution.
Collins was recently [link=https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1237099279627489281]shaking hands[/link] with President Trump before his CDC tour in Atlanta last Friday.
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Frat boy Gaetz was wearing a gas mask on the house floor while people in his state were dealing with conona. He’s a grade A @$$h0l3
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Democrats will push paid sick leave as a response.
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Apparently Matt Gaetz was on Air Force with the President just this morning … is self-quarantining as of this afternoon
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Apparently Donald has been physically in contact exposed to a couple of people who were exposed themselves.
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