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  • eyoab2011_711

    Member
    January 11, 2015 at 10:52 am

    Just another good guy with a gun…
     
     

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      January 11, 2015 at 12:08 pm

      I guess the moral if the story is……It’s better to be a mall cop wannabe vigilante than a street corner cigarette salesman

      I love the resisting arrest comment Dalai

      5 police officers surround the guy….one coward gets behind him with a chokehold while the other 4 hold him down.

      I guess that’s resisting

      If you choose to play by those rules then don’t be shocked and appalled when some lunatic from declares it open season on police

      It’s that type of attitudes that gives these idiots ideas

      • julie.young_645

        Member
        January 11, 2015 at 1:19 pm

        I suppose the cops should have let him run off to break the law some other day.
         
        No, the lunatics declare it open season on cops far more because of rhetoric like yours than like mine. A constant drum-beat of how horrible the police are, how they are targeting African-American males, ad nauseum, is the fodder for crazies (and some not so crazy) to kill those who are out there protecting you and me.
         
        The anti-cop message is the ideology of those who don’t want to be bothered with following the rules of society. 

        • odayjassim1978_476

          Member
          January 11, 2015 at 1:52 pm

          oh D wrong again…just caught on tape where a rookie NYPD bumped a guy off his bike for no reason..the officer was fired because the tape did not lie

          • julie.young_645

            Member
            January 11, 2015 at 1:56 pm

            So?

            • odayjassim1978_476

              Member
              January 11, 2015 at 2:14 pm

              NYPD have a long history of over aggressive tactics with police reports that don’t reflect what happened and then suddenly a tape appears…luckily this guy was white  so no death and the person who took the tape had nothing the police could put him in jail for(retaliation)…I can’t BREATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Quote from DoctorDalai

              So?

              • eyoab2011_711

                Member
                January 11, 2015 at 3:02 pm

                Garner is of no use to AIPAC, Charlie Hebdo is. That is all you need to know about how Dalai views the two events

                • julie.young_645

                  Member
                  January 11, 2015 at 3:13 pm

                  And he reveals his anti-Semitism once again. Hope your department chairman isn’t Jewish.

                  • eyoab2011_711

                    Member
                    January 11, 2015 at 3:30 pm

                    Calling someone an anti-semite is simply a corollary to Godwin’s law

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      January 11, 2015 at 3:50 pm

                      Wow

  • Unknown Member

    Deleted User
    January 12, 2015 at 6:01 am

    So why is it that Mr. Zimmerman is a conservative icon?..  

  • julie.young_645

    Member
    January 12, 2015 at 6:58 am

    And invoking [link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]Godwin’s law[/link] is one way to divert the view of the obvious implications of one’s reprehensible statements.

    • btomba_77

      Member
      January 12, 2015 at 7:04 am

      Quote from DoctorDalai

      And invoking [link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]Godwin’s law[/link] is one way to divert the view of the obvious implications of one’s reprehensible statements.

      That’s Hirsh’s law, btw
       

      Hirshs law;
      [h5]If a supporter of Israeli government policies in a discussion calls an opponent in a discussion an anti-semite they are expected to give precise, correct and justifiable reasons for using this term or they will be deemed to have been arguing in bad faith and have lost the argument.  

      [/h5]  

    • btomba_77

      Member
      May 11, 2015 at 11:51 am

      [link=http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/11/us/florida-george-zimmerman-shooting/index.html]http://www.cnn.com/2015/0…an-shooting/index.html[/link]
       
      [b]
      George Zimmerman involved in Florida shooting[/b][/h1]  

      George Zimmerman — acquitted by a Florida jury over the death of Trayvon Martin — was involved in a shooting in Lake Mary, Florida, on Monday, police spokeswoman Bianca Gillett said.

      Zimmerman apparently suffered a minor gunshot wound, CNN affiliate WESH-TV reported, citing the police chief.

      The affiliate spoke with one witness, Ricardo Berrare, who also said Zimmerman’s injuries didn’t look serious.

      “He walked normally into the ambulance, so he wasn’t being helped or nothing,” Berrare told WESH.

      The shooting is under investigation, but it appeared to be some type of road rage incident, Gillett told CNN

      • odayjassim1978_476

        Member
        May 11, 2015 at 12:08 pm

        back in the news
        Jeb’s stand your ground law
        but of course according to Georgie it’s all Obama’s fault

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          May 12, 2015 at 1:04 am

          Not so sure what Stand Your Ground law has to do with the Zimmerman case. Please explain since that was not mentioned by the defense in the Zimmerman trial

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            May 12, 2015 at 5:00 am

            Disingenuous argument, hero.

            • Unknown Member

              Deleted User
              May 13, 2015 at 2:21 am

              Mr Frum. facts are not disingenuous. This case never had anything to do with Stand Your Ground. Those on the left constantly blow up nonsense trying to push their own agenda.
               
              However.. this appears to be a long standing feud between these two. Again.. nothing to do with Stand Your Ground

          • btomba_77

            Member
            May 13, 2015 at 4:10 am

            Quote from Hero of Reason

            Not so sure what Stand Your Ground law has to do with the Zimmerman case. Please explain since that was not mentioned by the defense in the Zimmerman trial

             
            Just because Zimmerman’s [i]defense team[/i] didn’t bring up Stand Your Ground in the trial, that doesn’t mean the law was irrelevant to the jury’s decision. The Judge  made clear in the jury instructions that they should consider the law.
             
            “If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”
             
             
            It was Florida’s 2005 SYG that brought that above terminology into the standard jury instructions.  
             
            It is true that during the trial Zimmerman defense team claimed he was [i]unable[/i] to retreat, not unwillinging. But, the jury [url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/trayvon-martin/article1953286.html]confirmed that they had discussed “stand your ground” during deliberations. [/url]    
             
            Mark O’Mara, the head of Zimmerman’s defense team gave a nod to acknowledging the potential to confuse juries with SYG terminolgy being used, under Florida law, in non SYG defense case.
             
            [i]”Only include it in those cases where the ‘stand your ground, no duty to retreat’ issue is relevant,” O’Mara told Reuters on Wednesday. […]
            O’Mara said his proposal was “a nice polishing of the jury instructions that will address people’s concerns that juries are getting confused about stand your ground when it’s not appropriate.” [/i]
             
             
             
            Would Zimmerman have been acquitted of murder pre-2005 under a  different legal standard? Probably.   The prosecution would have been smarter with a manslaughter charge.   But SYG is interdigitated everywhere in Florida’s system for self-defense legal cases, whether defense team explicitly make claim or no, making it at least a contributory factor.

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              May 13, 2015 at 5:47 am

              I didn’t count the numbers here but this site has a list of which states are duty to retreat and which are stand your ground.  In Ohio we are duty to retreat which makes sense to me because it protects against people like Zimmerman who seemingly caused their own trouble and you can also still use deadly force as long as it’s justified.
               
              [link=http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/states-that-have-stand-your-ground-laws.html]http://criminal.findlaw.c…-your-ground-laws.html[/link]

              • ruszja

                Member
                May 13, 2015 at 10:18 am

                There was no ‘stand your ground’ issue in the Zimmerman case. He had the imprints of the sidewalk on the back of his head to prove that he had nowhere to retreat to.

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    May 13, 2015 at 10:56 am

    It’s not a stand your ground issue but there’s a big dif between stand and duty to retreat.  The later in my mind causes less trouble.  You have a duty to not be in the trouble in the first place.

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      May 13, 2015 at 12:05 pm

      Whatever. All these incidents after Martin’s killing show Zimmerman to be a violent nutjob at best which suggests he was one when he killed Martin. A psycho. Psycho heros for the Right. They can keep him.

      • odayjassim1978_476

        Member
        May 13, 2015 at 2:19 pm

        thank u…
        hit a cop/domestic issues and killed a kid
        a repeat pattern of aggression and continues to carry a gun to this day

        Quote from Frumious

        Whatever. All these incidents after Martin’s killing show Zimmerman to be a violent nutjob at best which suggests he was one when he killed Martin. A psycho. Psycho heros for the Right. They can keep him.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          May 14, 2015 at 8:13 am

          Hmmmmm

          A 210lb man has imprints in the back of his head from a 140lb kid

          Maybe George has a vajayjayy

          • odayjassim1978_476

            Member
            May 17, 2015 at 6:38 pm

            a repeat pattern
            an arrest warrant has been issued for Paris Hilton’s baby brother Conrad for a high speed police chase with CHP
            remember this is the guy who called passengers on a plane Peasants and got off/affluenza…no Freddie grey treatment here

          • ruszja

            Member
            May 17, 2015 at 7:44 pm

            Quote from kpack123

            Hmmmmm

            A 210lb man has imprints in the back of his head from a 140lb kid

             
            A ‘kid’ who liked to fight and was proud of his skills in such fights.
             

            Maybe George has a vajayjayy

             
            Oh he certainly does.
             
            That and an uncanny ability to pick out girlfriends that can get him in trouble.

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              May 18, 2015 at 2:27 am

              Poor innocent George. Even his girlfriends fear him.

              • eyoab2011_711

                Member
                September 28, 2015 at 2:59 pm

                I suspect he will soon be announcing his run for Republican nomination…
                 
                [link=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-zimmerman-tweets-trayvon-martins-body_560965b1e4b0dd85030846e5]http://www.huffingtonpost…0965b1e4b0dd85030846e5[/link]

                • 100574

                  Member
                  September 28, 2015 at 4:59 pm

                  IMHO such a pathetic little person …did he get anything out of the Pope’s visit…karma

                  Quote from Thor

                  I suspect he will soon be announcing his run for Republican nomination…

                  [link=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-zimmerman-tweets-trayvon-martins-body_560965b1e4b0dd85030846e5]http://www.huffingtonpost…0965b1e4b0dd85030846e5[/link]

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    February 20, 2022 at 8:43 am

                    [b][link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus-news%2Fjudge-tosses-george-zimmermans-lawsuit-trayvon-martins-parents-rcna16626]NBC News – Judge tosses George Zimmermans lawsuit against Trayvon Martin’s parents (Feb 17, 2022)[/link][/b]
                     

                    A judge in Florida has dismissed a [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fnews%2Fus-news%2Fgeorge-zimmerman-sues-trayvon-martin-s-family-100-million-damages-n1095916]defamation and conspiracy lawsuit[/link] former neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman had filed against the parents of Trayvon Martin, the teen he fatally shot almost a decade ago in a case that drew international attention about race and gun violence.

                    In his order, the judge wrote that Zimmerman had failed to show any fraudulent representation and said any further arguments in the case would be futile.

                    There can be no claim for conspiracy to defraud if there is no adequately stated claim for fraud, Cooper wrote in the order filed more than two weeks ago.

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