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Conservative Icon George Zimmerman back in jail
[link=http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/index.html]http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/us/george-zimmerman-detained/index.html[/link]
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“Anytime we have anybody suspected of doing anything, we place them in investigative detention until a complete investigation has been done,” Hudson said
Is that even legal? Investigative Detention?-
Maybe George can Shoot first and ask questions later
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why is he still allowed to have a gun??
why has a mental evaluation of him to be cleared to carry a weapon not been done??
I wonder what that first juror feels like now when she was kinda imho as long as Georgie doesn’t go too far. I hope all black children if they see him walk in the opposite direction and call 911 to at least get your side of the story on recordQuote from kpack123
Maybe George can Shoot first and ask questions later
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I definitely will turn the channel on any show that has commentary from O’MARA(zimmerman’s attorney). It will be my own little quiet protest
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Just for the record. Zimmerman is not a conservative. He was a staunch Obama supporter. The post should properly read: Democrat George Zimmerman back in jail.
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I don’t care who he supported
something is not right….
again, I am sure all black parents in Florida are telling their child if you see him go in the opposite direction and call 911 so at some point their is a record of what you are concern about
as for O’Mara showing up at the wife’s family house..makes me wonder of his concern about the lawsuit that he is pursuing but again I will do my own quiet protest and turn the channel if he is on . Seeing The Butler, reminded me of all the stories my mom told me of how much hatred mankind can project on their fellow man based just on the color of their skin -
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Just for the record. Zimmerman is not a conservative. He was a staunch Obama supporter. The post should properly read: Democrat George Zimmerman back in jail.
Alda, don’t expect arkboy, hammerboy, bandersnatch or pacman to ever post facts. They are true disciples of the obummer, blame the Republicans for lib incompetence.
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Yeah, Point man, we can only try. These guys are stict Alinsky and Bammer disciples. Distortion. lies and deflection are part of the teachings.
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Pointless, again
facts are all we ever posted. In California, the state would pursue domestic abuse charges. Mr. Zimmerman’s record and behavior are facts.. It is what it is.. but to me it highlights how one person can get a pass and others who actually may be right are thrown under the bus consistently
Aldi, & Point get over it..2008/2012 elections are the past .. I just hope Congress can do their job and see beyond just Obama..and see what a stalling tactic Russia may be presenting.
we have never had an American show up in a london hospital dying of PlutoniumQuote from Point Man
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Just for the record. Zimmerman is not a conservative. He was a staunch Obama supporter. The post should properly read: Democrat George Zimmerman back in jail.
Alda, don’t expect arkboy, hammerboy, bandersnatch or pacman to ever post facts. They are true disciples of the obummer, blame the Republicans for lib incompetence.
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[b]Just for the record. Zimmerman is not a conservative. [/b]
He is an Icon in the mind of conservatives
Again Conservative Icon Zimmerman back in jail-
Here is your hero wingnuts
“When police arrived she could be heard on the phone saying, “Dad, get behind a car or something. I don’t know if he’s going to start shooting at us or not.”[b][link=http://news.yahoo.com/US/george-zimmermans-wife-selfish-feels-invincible/story?id=20174763]George Zimmerman Feels ‘Invincible,’ His Wife Tells ABC News[/link][/b]The incident came just days after Shellie Zimmerman told ABC News that she was not sure she “ever really knew” her husband through their seven years of marriage and she felt she was the victim of verbal abuse by him. She also said she believed the not guilty verdict left her husband feeling “invincible” and since then he had been “making some reckless decisions.”-
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George Zimmerman Feels ‘Invincible,’ His Wife Tells ABC News
Well he’s not invincible enough to dodge that $256 speeding ticket he got last week in Florida..
Yep, a real law abiding model American alright.
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He is an idiot, allways has been. This is the US, as a man, the moment your wife or girlfriend wants out, you have to cut off all contact so you dont end up in the back of a cruiser. Put whatever is hers into a storage unit, change the locks on your house/apartment, mail her a check for 2 months rent along with the storage keys and a no trespass notice. That is what my former secretaries husband did, kept him out of all entanglements.
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[b]He is an idiot, allways has been. [/b]
Funny how the guy who claimed to be terrified of a skinny 158lb child wasn’t afraid to punch an old man (his father-in-law) in the nose
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[b]He is an idiot, allways has been. [/b]
Funny how the guy who claimed to be terrified of a skinny 158lb child wasn’t afraid to punch an old man (his father-in-law) in the noseThe conservative Icon
And apparently throw a hissy fit and smash an iPad.
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There wasn’t a gun. I know it is hard to believe but sometimes the ex, in a divorce situation, makes $hit up.
[link=http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/09/09/george-zimmermans-wife-calls-911-says-husband-had-a-hand-on-his-gun/]http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/09/09/george-zimmermans-wife-calls-911-says-husband-had-a-hand-on-his-gun/[/link]
“Domestic violence can’t be invoked because she has changed her story and says she didn’t see a firearm,” Bracknell said.
The dispute “was between him and his wife and her father,” Morgan said. “There were some allegations that there had been an assault, but we could not confirm any of it.”
[link=http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-gun-incident-florida-trayvon-martin/2788443/]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/09/george-zimmerman-gun-incident-florida-trayvon-martin/2788443/[/link]
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Sometimes they do but too often the man is guilty of assault. And Zimmerman has a history, not his wife.
So you can say she is using this history against him but for what purpose? To get his fortune? Make divorce easier? Divorce is not as hard these days so making up lies of assault is hardly necessary. -
So what we have is that he was never ‘back in jail’ and the police couldn’t confirm any part of the alledged incident.
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His own attorney contradicted the so called police search that did not find a weapon on him and they conveniently did not search the car BUT O’MARA says he had a gun and the wife in the tape says he is in the car with a gunQuote from fw
So what we have is that he was never ‘back in jail’ and the police couldn’t confirm any part of the alleged incident.
Soon to be ex-wife making up stuff. Nothing to see here.
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Quote from Noah’sArk
why is he still allowed to have a gun??
He’s allowed to have a gun simply because he has not been found guilty of any violent crime in a court of law. This is now his THIRD arrest for domestic violence, right up there next to two arrests for committing assault, one being battery on a [i]police officer,[/i] with witnesses, and yet charges repeatedly were dismissed. The wimps keep letting him off, I’m guessing due to his daddy’s influence. That kind of repeat offender will eventually get his just desserts, but I fear it won’t be the result of due process. Rather, ironically, it will be the result of the same kind of vigilanteism that I believe Zimmerman, himself, committed when he fatally shot a minor earlier this year.
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Lux,
I mean at least have on record that a mental status check has been done..
isn’t that suppose to be a check for gun ownership
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why is he still allowed to have a gun??
He’s allowed to have a gun simply because he has not been found guilty of any violent crime in a court of law. This is now his THIRD arrest for domestic violence, right up there next to two arrests for committing assault, one being battery on a [i]police officer,[/i] with witnesses, and yet charges repeatedly were dismissed. The wimps keep letting him off, I’m guessing due to his daddy’s influence. That kind of repeat offender will eventually get his just desserts, but I fear it won’t be the result of due process. Rather, ironically, it will be the result of the same kind of vigilanteism that I believe Zimmerman, himself, committed when he fatally shot a minor earlier this year.
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Yeah, being the victim of malicious prosecution can wreck your life.
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“Anytime we have anybody suspected of doing anything, we place them in investigative detention until a complete investigation has been done,” Hudson said
Is that even legal? Investigative Detention?
Obviously, that doesn’t apply to shooting unarmed Black teenagers…
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Seeing The Butler, reminded me of all the stories my mom told me of [b]how much hatred mankind can project on their fellow man based just on the color of their skin [/b]
isn’t that the truth
[link=http://pix11.com/2013/09/09/union-square-beating-victim-dies-at-bellevue-hospital/]http://pix11.com/2013/09/09/union-square-beating-victim-dies-at-bellevue-hospital/[/link]
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Hatred comes in all forms
that’s why we hope the judicial system works
but to allow Zimmerman to continue packing heat when he has a prior domestic incident which led to a restraining order,kills an unamred teenager and now with the wife incident
I mean you and I can post a crime everyday but does that mean we turn a blind eye on this-
I mean you and I can post a crime everyday but does that mean we turn a blind eye on this
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Do you mean/assert that you can post a crime per day describing a group of whites hurting a black person for being black?
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when was Trey murdered while walking home without a gun by a person who has a pattern of a certain degree of agressivenes, is not arrested by the police that night but goes home with his gun , gets acquitted and is still having problems with the law
but I believe my point is that posting a crime per day by anyone is not going to help when we allow one injustice to slip thru the cracks
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isn’t that the truth
[link=http://pix11.com/2013/09/09/union-square-beating-victim-dies-at-bellevue-hospital/]http://pix11.com/2013/09/09/union-square-beating-victim-dies-at-bellevue-hospital/[/link]
I wonder what they’ll have to make up to not prosecute this as a hate crime or civil rights violation.
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You guys need to actually read that article. “[b]Officers detained George Zimmerman but never arrested him, police said. Detectives later came to the home to interview him[/b]” Do you suppose he was driven to jail, then driven back to the house so that they could question him? More than likely he was put in the back seat of a cruiser while the police talked to his wife and her father. Nor was he arrested, this time anyway. Had he actually assaulted them, he should have been.
He offered to give the police the tapes from the surveillance cameras on the house. Do you suppose he would do that if it would show him walking around like Clint Eastwood with his hand on his piece? Of course maybe he knows how to stay out of the field of view of those cameras too.
All that said, knowing that his soon to be ex-wife was coming to the house, and showing up there with his brother, he was obviously looking for/expecting a confrontation.-
They need to get this deranged mall cop off the streets
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His own attorney contradicted the so called police search that did not find a weapon on him and they conveniently did not search the car BUT O’MARA says he had a gun and the wife in the tape says he is in the car with a gunQuote from fw
So what we have is that he was never ‘back in jail’ and the police couldn’t confirm any part of the alleged incident.
Soon to be ex-wife making up stuff. Nothing to see here.
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Isn’t it amazing that a guy who some people here claim is completely innocent of any wrongdoing (or at least they haven’t acknoweldged that’s he’s done anything wrong) still finds a way to get involved with all of these legal tussles:
[ul][*]killing a minor[*]three charges of domestic violence (with 2 different women)[*]2 charges of assault with one of them being battery on a cop[*]speeding ticketsone of them for $256 [/ul] Funny how much bad luck an innocent guy can run into, huh?
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As Hiliary Clinton likes to say ” what difference does it make?”
For the life of me I still can’t understand why George Zimmerman is a story. He was tried and found – for you Lux ” Not Guilty”.
Hispanic males are not the biggest threat to the African American population. I couldn’t care whether Zim spends the rest of his life behind bars or not. There are much more important issues to deal with. Maybe we should stop killing each other, educate ourselves and be productive citizens.-
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As Hiliary Clinton likes to say ” what difference does it make?”
For the life of me I still can’t understand why George Zimmerman is a story. He was tried and found – for you Lux ” Not Guilty”.
Hispanic males are not the biggest threat to the African American population. I couldn’t care whether Zim spends the rest of his life behind bars or not. There are much more important issues to deal with. Maybe we should stop killing each other, educate ourselves and be productive citizens.What do you mean, [i]”for you Lux”?[/i]
Last time I checked, that was the verdict. Period.
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I just didn’t want you to go in to one of your monotonous posts of how “not guilty” doesn’t mean “innocent”. Do you actually have a job?
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I just didn’t want you to go in to one of your monotonous posts of how “not guilty” doesn’t mean “innocent”. Do you actually have a job?
How infantile.
Get lost.
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come on you have written a short novel about how Zimmerman was found “not guilty” not “innocent”. who gives a $hit. I can’t believe you have nothing better to do with your time. Lux – you come across as the “biggest loser”. you get lost you loser. i’m way too busy making money to invest any more time in this useless discussion. I need to spend more time figuring out how to keep the grubby liberals paws from taking half of my money.
later loser. hope you have been saving because life as a physician will be a middle class gig. but I guess that makes you happy. that’s what a physician should be. enjoy your obamacare. fortunately I don’t need to practice medicine anymore. I hire losers like you to work for me.-
[b] i’m way too busy making money to invest any more time in this useless discussion. I need to spend more time figuring out how to keep the grubby liberals paws from taking half of my money. [/b]
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Some people are just full of themselves and don’t give a crap about anyone else. It’s their right, and our burden.
I wonder if Ben Casey ever actually ever worked in any business that had to attract a PAYING customer or earned a single free market dollar that wasn’t part of our socialistic insurance industry.
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quite interesting … troubles are suppose to come in doubles
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Isn’t it amazing that a guy who some people here claim is completely innocent of any wrongdoing (or at least they haven’t acknoweldged that’s he’s done anything wrong) still finds a way to get involved with all of these legal tussles:
[ul][*]killing a minor[*]three charges of domestic violence (with 2 different women)[*]2 charges of assault with one of them being battery on a cop[*]speeding ticketsone of them for $256 [/ul] Funny how much bad luck an innocent guy can run into, huh?
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I love this:
“How infantile.
Get lost. ”
Because “get lost” is so mature!!
Hahahahahaha!!!
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I think Shellie is looking for a reality show, and for the record I don’t say that because I have any affection for g.z. Why else is she doing interviews about the divorce.
If she is getting attention it will continue.
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I love this:
“How infantile.
Get lost. ”
Because “get lost” is so mature!!
Hahahahahaha!!!Yeah, let’s put more credence in the obviously very mature “Hahahahahaha!!!” in the crowd.
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but luxie poo. I am not the one telling others they are infantile.
I read somewhere that people who don’t understand irony and sarcasm could be experiencing early dementia.
You should check into that, you know, just in case.-
Soapy won’t admit it but ol’ George is a died-in-the-wool democrite. He was a realllllly bbbiiiiigggg obummer supporter, but the obummer dropped George like first period French.
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[b]Soapy won’t admit it but ol’ George is a died-in-the-wool democrite. He was a realllllly bbbiiiiigggg obummer supporter, but the obummer dropped George like first period French. [/b]
Maybe so but he is still an Icon to conservatives
You wingnuts rallied to his defense solely because of the gun issue
George Zimmerman—Wife Beater, speeder, Domestic vilater, Wanna be mall cop and[b] Conservative Icon[/b]-
No, we rallied to his defense because he was being unfairly attacked in the media by idiots who didn’t know the facts.
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[b]No, we rallied to his defense because he was being unfairly attacked in the media by idiots who didn’t know the facts. [/b]
True you rallied to the defense of a Domestic abuser who punched an old man in the nose but was to timid to stop from getting pummeled by a skinny 17 yr old
Yes That is exactly what you did
That is why Z is a [b]Conservative ICON[/b]
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George Zimmerman—Wife Beater, speeder, Domestic vilater, Wanna be mall cop and[b] Conservative Icon[/b]
Let’s not forget Cop Puncher.
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Soapy won’t admit it but ol’ George is a died-in-the-wool democrite. He was a realllllly bbbiiiiigggg obummer supporter, but the obummer dropped George like first period French.
You know nothing about “soapy”. I don’t give a crap about Zimmerman’s political disposition and there is nothing in anything I’ve written that ever opined about it.
There you go making stuff up just to suit your selfish insecure ego again. Figures.
And what on earth is your point about Obama “dropping” Zimmerman. Are we now supposed to be an apologist for backwater thugs just because they “support” us?
I must say, you’ve got some of the most bizarre standards of any so-called professional I’ve ever encountered. Right down to your incredibly persistent and juvenile name calling obsession.
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No, we rallied to his defense because he was being unfairly attacked in the media by idiots who didn’t know the facts.
“Facts” you say?!
You mean like “not guilty” means he didn’t do it? Or that there was any evidence presented that proved Martin was “vicious” and a “violent juvenile delinquent”? Yeah, your heads are screwed on tight about the facts alright. So tight that it’s apparently cutting off carotid flow.
Don’t make me laugh.
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Please get back on your meds. You have lost all credibility on this issue.
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Do we know if Obama is going to comment on this incident and say something along the lines of
“If I had a son, he would look like Aaron Alexis”
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[b]Do we know if Obama is going to comment on this incident and say something along the lines of [/b]
[b]”If I had a son, he would look like Aaron Alexis” [/b]
[b]No, probably not. [/b]
What does this even mean?
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Ask Obama. He felt he needed to comment about Trayvon. Why not Aaron?
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How are Trayvon and Aaron Alexis at all alike? ( I mean besides showing what happens when you freely allow guns in the hands of those who shouldn’t have them)
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How are Travon and all of the inner city kids killed in Chicago alike or not alike?
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[b]How are Travon and all of the inner city kids killed in Chicago alike or not alike? [/b]
What is your point?
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How are Trayvon and Aaron Alexis at all alike?
They both involve circumstances where the President should not be getting personally involved or attempting to sway public opinion. Unfortunately, he insinuated himself into the Travon case. Let’s see if he stay objective and keep his foot out of his mouth on this one.-
So you are saying Obama should go to the back of the bus and keep his mouth shut and not speak to the nation about issues that are important to it.
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So you are saying Obama should go to the back of the bus and keep his mouth shut and not speak to the nation about issues that are important to it.
No Hammer Head you have your references confused. It was boyfriend Obama that said that the Republicans can come
along for the ride but they had to ride in the back of the bus. Just another arrogant, insensitive comment by your fearless leader.
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Radmike opined that Obama should not comment on issues of national interest…trying to figure out why he said that.
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because when you cherry pick the issues someone feels as if their issue, which is just as important to them as the trayvon martin issue was to his family has been overlooked.
I cannot believe you tried to make this about race. Shame on you.
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Well I guess he only feels the need to comment when the shooter is a “white hispanic”. That is after all the biggest threat to the black population.
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Radmike opined that Obama should not comment on issues of national interest…trying to figure out why he said that.
Clearly to Radmike all blacks are alike….
Another lie from Thor. I did not say that. Please read again.
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So you are saying Obama should go to the back of the bus and keep his mouth shut and not speak to the nation about issues that are important to it.
Why was an out-of-control juvenile delinquent an important issue to the nation? I would say those Chicago murders of young blacks would eclipse Travon. But the obummer cannot make Chicago murders of young blacks a racial issue, now can he?
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by the way, Luxie, it ticks me off for you to say that Georgie is some conservative icon. Love it when you Communists lie like that, shows us just who you are. No one said Georgie is their best friend, unlike you and your best buddy “Tray”. I probably wouldn’t even like him in person, and I wouldn’t like wannabee thug “Tray” either for that matter. We just got all over YOU cuz you were bellowing about him being guilty because he was not “innocent”. And your best buddy “Tray” wasn’t an angel either, but you can’t accept that cuz a white, ooops, I mean Hispanic guy killed him in self-defense.
Most of us are just sick and tired of the double standard. Wannabee thug “Tray” is cited by the President himself as someone who could be him or his son, and the only reason that was said was because Lu’s bestest friend in the world “Tray” was black. Don’t matter if he was a wannabee thug or not. But when whites are killed by blacks, no adopting of the black perpetrator by the Pres. At least they didn’t say Lu’s NEW best friend Aaron was innocent. Not sure if Lu’ would have liked that.
Anyways, when you start with absolute unmitigated lies about how Georgie is the new conservative posterboy, I’ll just tell you to look at how you Communists just adore Che’ and Mao, guys who murdered millions. Real heros, aren’t they?-
[b]by the way, Luxie, it ticks me off for you to say that Georgie is some conservative icon. [/b]
[b]I said that[/b]
And He is Conservative ICON You wingnuts put him in his perch
He is your Icon
Now his wife said he thinks he is invicible
Mall cop on steroids
Thanks fellas
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by the way, Luxie, it ticks me off for you to say that Georgie is some conservative icon. Love it when you Communists lie like that, shows us just who you are. No one said Georgie is their best friend, unlike you and your best buddy “Tray”. I probably wouldn’t even like him in person, and I wouldn’t like wannabee thug “Tray” either for that matter. We just got all over YOU cuz you were bellowing about him being guilty because he was not “innocent”. And your best buddy “Tray” wasn’t an angel either, but you can’t accept that cuz a white, ooops, I mean Hispanic guy killed him in self-defense.
Most of us are just sick and tired of the double standard. Wannabee thug “Tray” is cited by the President himself as someone who could be him or his son, and the only reason that was said was because Lu’s bestest friend in the world “Tray” was black. Don’t matter if he was a wannabee thug or not. But when whites are killed by blacks, no adopting of the black perpetrator by the Pres. At least they didn’t say Lu’s NEW best friend Aaron was innocent. Not sure if Lu’ would have liked that.
Anyways, when you start with absolute unmitigated lies about how Georgie is the new conservative posterboy, I’ll just tell you to look at how you Communists just adore Che’ and Mao, guys who murdered millions. Real heros, aren’t they?
Please show me where I said Zimmerman was a conservative icon.
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Kinda makes you wonder if a few of these clowns aren’t the same poster
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Had the same opinion of Thor, Lux, Frumi, and KPACK. Except clowns are occasionally funny, you are not.
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[b]Had the same opinion of Thor, Lux, Frumi, and KPACK. [/b]
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Actually, I was working. Can’t surf the net all day like some.
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Is that what I said? I don’t think so. Quit trying to twist my words. Try reading what I wrote rather than making it up in your head as you go..
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[b]Is that what I said? I don’t think so. Quit trying to twist my words. Try reading what I wrote rather than making it up in your head as you go.. [/b]
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What is your point about my son looking like Tim Mc Veigh?
My son isn’t even white.
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Mikie,
You are the one making the direct comparison of Trayvon and Aaron Alexis and you have yet to explain why you did. At the time Obama spoke about Trayvon, there were a lot of folks in the black community looking to him to make some sort of statement. Perhaps you can’t understand that. Unfortuantely now the right simply wants to jump on him when he comments and when he doesn’t.
Perhpas you can provide a list to Obama on which social issues and events he can and cannot comment on.
BTW he has spoken as President in Chicago about the violence there and the balck on black crime and breakdown of the family units there. They don’t cover that on FauxNews though-
I heard that on fox news. I also heard someone on there going on and on about how he speaks to black fathers about responsibility and caring for their children. Do you watch Fox news? If not, how do you know?
The problem has as much to do as his speaking before knowing any facts.
“the officers acted stupidly”
classic example.
You would think that he would have said something about the Oklahoma event after the prime minister of Australia came out and commented, but nothing. He jumped all over treyvon martin, and the “stupidly acting officers” but not a word about that. I find it difficult to believe that an educated man/woman could not see the problem this might cause by how it appears.
Maybe you really dont’ understand it, but I think if it were a republican and you were not invested in ideology you would see it.
I could be wrong, you might be so disconnected and caught up in making it about race that you simply don’t want to concede that someone else might have a point.-
even MSNBC admits they don’t report the news:
[link=http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thats-why-cnn-goes-to-the-top-morgan-spurlock-tavis-smiley-rip-msnbc-losing-sight-of-news/]http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thats-why-cnn-goes-to-the-top-morgan-spurlock-tavis-smiley-rip-msnbc-losing-sight-of-news/[/link]-
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even MSNBC admits they don’t report the news:
[link=http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thats-why-cnn-goes-to-the-top-morgan-spurlock-tavis-smiley-rip-msnbc-losing-sight-of-news/]http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thats-why-cnn-goes-to-the-top-morgan-spurlock-tavis-smiley-rip-msnbc-losing-sight-of-news/[/link]So, what are you saying? Are you daring to imply that because Fox isn’t the only one broadcasting bogus information and calling it news that it’s therefore ok to just believe it all as being [i]true[/i]?!
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even MSNBC admits they don’t report the news:
[link=http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thats-why-cnn-goes-to-the-top-morgan-spurlock-tavis-smiley-rip-msnbc-losing-sight-of-news/]http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thats-why-cnn-goes-to-the-top-morgan-spurlock-tavis-smiley-rip-msnbc-losing-sight-of-news/[/link]
MSNBC admits no such thing. They only acknowledged they don’t do “breaking news” that well, meaning they only report it after the fact but not while the story is happening. There is nothing in your citation that says “they don’t report the news” as if to imply that, like Faux News, they just make stuff up and call it news.
So if you read that story, you read it wrong.
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kpack,
I very clearly was talking to Thor..you can see that in the “in reply to” at the top of my post.
I was very clearly talking about Obama ( you can tell by the fact that I continue to refer to him as “he” when describing his jumping in before knowing the facts).
I am not sure of your education level, but a fifth grader can see that I am talking about Obama.
I have no clue what you are talking about in your post back to me. I do love how, though, when it is pointed out that you were mistaken, instead of taking the high road and either admitting it, apologizing or dropping it you double down and ratchet up the insults.
Again, even a fifth grader could follow along.
So let me get this straight..
I replied to Thor (as is posted)
you jumped all over me after misinterpreting my post (that was about Obama)
then doubled down on it when shown you had been mistaken and you think that [i]I[/i] am passive aggressive?
Whatever dude. You have lost all credibility with me. As a test, I showed my post to my ten yr old and she said I was answering Thor.
She is in fifth grade.
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KW818:
And will [i][u]you[/u][/i] be as graceful in acknowledging that MSNBC did not [i]”admit they don’t report the news”[/i] but rather the article simply stated that they do not report “breaking” news and that there was no indication that they present anything but the facts and opinions (not portrayed as facts). Buying into the [i]”pomp of punditry”[/i] does not mean presenting opinion as fact in quite the same way as Faux does. Just ask Megyn Kelly about Morris and Hannity. Rather MSNBC is simply saying they’ve become more editorial and less investigative. But that article says nothing about the veracity of what they present. It only says MSNBC “news” isn’t “new”.
Right?PS: Having said that, in the spirit of disclosure, I never watch MSNBC. I’m only evaluating what was presented in your citation.
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[b]I do love how, though, when it is pointed out that you were mistaken, instead of taking the high road and either admitting it, apologizing or dropping it you double down and ratchet up the insults. [/b]
[b]Again, even a fifth grader could follow along.[/b]
I wasn’t mistaken
You said something stupid and got called out
[b]As a test, I showed my post to my ten yr old and she said I was answering Thor. She is in fifth grade. [/b]
Uhmmmmm, Thats not only weird……Its downright creepy
[b]Whatever dude. You have lost all credibility with me.[/b]
OMG!!!!!!! I am crushed I just lost credibility with a passive agressive baitor who posts either stupidity or bogus articles then runs from them
I am certainly very undereducated and definitely not on your level of intelligence
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Cut the cr@p, children. this is stupid.
I gotta apologise to Lu’. He/she/it didn’t make the icon crack, kkrack000 did. So very sorry, prostrating myself and everything.
Georgie is no icon to anyone, and it is nothing more than your own racism against white conservatives that drives all the stupid liberal comments on the topic. Blacks can do no wrong, whites can do no right. Lu’s bestest friend in the whole world “Tray” was an angel who sang in the church chior and in his spare time from not pursuing his PhD in Physics so he could join Dr. Frumious in the PACS business delivered hot meals to the elderly and breast-fed AIDS babies at the local charity hospital. OOOOPs,sorry, wrong. He was a wannabe gangsta thug, who happened to be black. Get over it.
This aint Birmingham and Im no Bull Connor. Nobody is cheering over the death of Lu’s bestest friend in the whole world “Tray”, and I really dont give much of a rip about Georgie except for the fact that I was upset about you commies crucifying him for defending himself againt a little thug. Whole thing never should have happened, but it did.
The fact that you commies call people racist who don’t as a knee-jerk response ignore any bad thing a black person does says a whole lot more about YOU than about me, or black or white people for that matter.
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That is right, kpack…to show a post to a ten yr old, who was asking why I was laughing so much, and asking her “can you tell who this was responding to?” is ‘downright creepy’
Hahahaha! Thanks again!
you are right. I said something stupid. We all know that Obama DID not say that father’s should take care of their kids, and sorry, Thor..he did not speak out in Chicago about the violence there. Kpack says that is absolutely stupid
Oh and apparently obama is
[image]http://www.auntminnie.com/Forum/app_themes/Classic/image/noavatar.gif[/image]an unemployed JUCO dropout without kids
Sorry, I think even Lux sees it, but you just double down and show us how you choose to be ignorant of what has actually happened.
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[b]That is right, kpack…to show a post to a ten yr old, who was asking why I was laughing so much, and asking her “can you tell who this was responding to?” is ‘downright creepy’ [/b]
[b]Hahahaha! Thanks again! [/b]
Ok Im sure Michael Jackson or Jerry Sandusky did not think they were creepy either.
Just take the loss
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[b]Sorry, I think even Lux sees it, but you just double down and show us how you choose to be ignorant of what has actually happened. [/b]
[b]go ahead, I’ll wait. [/b]
Kinda like You answered Lux’s question………………Right???
Kinda?
Oh wait……………You didn’t answer it
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[b]I heard that on fox news. I also heard someone on there going on and on about how he speaks to black fathers about responsibility and caring for their children. Do you watch Fox news? If not, how do you know?[/b]
Excuse me ………………………But exactly what qualifications does this junior college drop out who was unemployed and not a parent himself have giving advice to fathers ?
he has about as much credibility as I have Talent to play in the NFL
What the Hello is wrong with you
before I thought the Gold at 3500 and a safe investment was the dumbest I have this year…………………but as harry said to Lloyd you totally redeem yourself!!!!!!!-
I see you are having trouble following along, let me help you. Thor said this
“BTW he has spoken as President in Chicago about the violence there and the balck on black crime and breakdown of the family units there. They don’t cover that on FauxNews though ” in reference to Barack Obama”
I said this in response to his contention that they did not cover that of Fox News:”[b]I heard that on fox news. I also heard someone on there going on and on about how he speaks to black fathers about responsibility and caring for their children. Do you watch Fox news? If not, how do you know?[/b] ”
Then you went off on some tangent I cannot figure out how you got on that tangent. I re read the last part of this thread, and I don’t know how you missed the whole conversation there.
Maybe you should pause before jumping on someone for something, then you won’t look so silly like you do now.
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[b]I heard that on fox news. I also heard someone on there going on and on about how he speaks to black fathers about responsibility and caring for their children. Do you watch Fox news? If not, how do you know?[/b]
Excuse me ………………………But exactly what qualifications does this junior college drop out who was unemployed and not a parent himself have giving advice to fathers ?
he has about as much credibility as I have Talent to play in the NFL
What the Hello is wrong with you
before I thought the Gold at 3500 and a safe investment was the dumbest I have this year…………………but as harry said to Lloyd you totally redeem yourself!!!!!!!
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So my question is, now that I cleared that up and the “dumb part” was that you misunderstood, is your post now the dumbest you have seen ?
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[b]Then you went off on some tangent I cannot figure out how you got on that tangent. I re read the last part of this thread, and I don’t know how you missed the whole conversation there. [/b]
No you said something very stupid and now you are trying to back away from it. Because you are in a corner due to your own stupidity
Take the loss
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Why was an out-of-control juvenile delinquent an important issue to the nation?
Thanks for answering your own question. Martin is an important issue to the nation because poster child racists like you have jumped to the baseless conclusion that Martin was “an out of control juvenile delinquent” and also have not at all acknowledged, despite the FACTS, that if anyone has shown himself to be out of control it’s Zimmerman.
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Lets’ see unarmed 17 yo gunned down; no arrest made made
Man pulled from his house by police for no reason
Murder in Oklahoma; arrest made everything handled proprerly.
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But FOX news said he speaks to black fathers
WOWWWWWWWWW-
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But FOX news said he speaks to black fathers
WOWWWWWWWWWI’ll bet good money that any “caregiver” incidents we hear about that guy are simply the result of paternal coaching ever since he was arrested for punching a cop a while back. Anger management course, domestic violence, assault and battery, speeding tickets…his daddy knows EXACTLY what his son is.
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I think its a hilarious how an unemployed JUCO dropout without kids can give advice to Fathers
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I think its a hilarious how an unemployed JUCO dropout without kids can give advice to Fathers
Like I said thats like me telling Adrian Peterson how to carry the rockObviously, KW818 doesn’t realize that Fox is loaded with incompetents who make stuff up and pawn it off as news. Nothing new there. Sometimes clowns like Dick Morris are so bad at it that Fox actually fires them. It’s going to happen to insane Hannity next, now that he’s lost his contract renewal at 40 affiliate stations across the country and is losing his TV spot to Megyn Kelly.
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You really can’t follow along, can you???
Ha! It’s ok, I’d be embarassed too. I am quite sure there is no one in a fifty mile radius of you or on this board that would expect you to admit an error or apologize.
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Yeah right
Your idiotic statement stands for itself
Your game is to drop little bombs then try to walk away from them but this time you can’t
Just take the loss
Not sure what the treatment for passive agressive is but you should find it
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Actually, I gotta agree with komradekrack000…I would personally hold back from showing a 10-year-old [i]anything[/i] from the creepy Commie writing block.
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I guess I don’t understand the jerry sandusky and micheal jackson reference. Kpack? Do you see penises on your screen?
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No only someone creepy would say that
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only an idiot would not see why I said that.
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Sandusky And Michael Jackson Probably get what you said
Im not that type
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yet, oddly, you brought them up in a discussion about george zimmerman. And you call ME creepy.
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[b]yet, oddly, you brought them up in a discussion about george zimmerman. [/b]
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KPACK with his usual slurs.
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Just tellin the truth
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This time he was arrested in Florida for pointing a shotgun at his “girlfriend” after a “verbal dispute”.
He kicked her out of her own home and locked himself inside and barricaded the door with furniture. She called 911.
When law enforcement arrived, he did not open the door for them. They used her key and pushed the door open (Zim did not remove the furniture from blocking the entrance).They arrested him and he was charged with yet another felony count of aggravated assault (pointing the gun at her) and domestic violence battery (pushing her out of her own home), and also criminal mischief (breaking her furniture). He’s currently locked up in Seminole Country jail without bail.
He’s a real model American hero, alright.
[link=http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/]http://www.cnn.com/2013/1…orge-zimmerman-arrest/[/link]
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sad and pitifulQuote from Lux
This time he was arrested in Florida for pointing a shotgun at his “girlfriend” after a “verbal dispute”.
He kicked her out of her own home and locked himself inside and barricaded the door with furniture. She called 911.When law enforcement arrived, he did not open the door for them. They used her key and pushed the door open (Zim did not remove the furniture from blocking the entrance).
They arrested him and he was charged with yet another felony count of aggravated assault (pointing the gun at her) and domestic violence battery (pushing her out of her own home), and also criminal mischief (breaking her furniture). He’s currently locked up in Seminole Country jail without bail.
He’s a real model American hero, alright.
[link=http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/]http://www.cnn.com/2013/1…orge-zimmerman-arrest/[/link]
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wonder how that female jury feels that she is on record as yeah she would let Georgie be neighborhood watch with a gun
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I bet the jury gives him the “OJ treatment”.
20 years for felonious assault …. but really for murder. 😉
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I am Sure the dad will be back with Hannity in his Hitchcock profile
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I bet the jury gives him the “OJ treatment”.
20 years for felonious assault …. but really for murder. 😉
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I am Sure the dad will be back with Hannity in his Hitchcock profile
I’ll bet a sawbuck that Faux tries to vilify the girl.
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C’mon Lux…he was just standing his ground
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C’mon Lux…he was just standing his ground
My concern is that the girl may withdraw the charges. She was the mistress when he cheated on his wife a few years ago (and now she’s still only 26). She already knows too well what kind of guy he is and the fact that she’s still hanging with him may be an indication of how messed up she is, and I won’t be surprised if she’s just keeping him in jail for a day to “punish” him, but then she’ll cave and let him out.
We’ll see.
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all the men in Florida and u want to get with him
just have a fantasy relationship with Val Kilmer in his bat suit…it would be a lot less DRAMA which Zimmerman seems to always find himself in
…men can be drama queens/borderlines come from both sexes…just FYI
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C’mon Lux…he was just standing his ground
My concern is that the girl may withdraw the charges. She was the mistress when he cheated on his wife a few years ago (and now she’s still only 26). She already knows too well what kind of guy he is and the fact that she’s still hanging with him may be an indication of how messed up she is, and I won’t be surprised if she’s just keeping him in jail for a day to “punish” him, but then she’ll cave and let him out.
We’ll see.
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all the men in Florida and u want to get with him
just have a fantasy relationship with Val Kilmer in his bat suit…it would be a lot less DRAMA which Zimmerman seems to always find himself in
…men can be drama queens/borderlines come from both sexes…just FYIExactly, which is why I think she may already be damaged goods and may withdraw the charges in 24 hours just to teach him a lesson.
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where is the psych eval?????
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all the men in Florida and u want to get with him
just have a fantasy relationship with Val Kilmer in his bat suit…it would be a lot less DRAMA which Zimmerman seems to always find himself in
…men can be drama queens/borderlines come from both sexes…just FYIExactly, which is why I think she may already be damaged goods and may withdraw the charges in 24 hours just to teach him a lesson.
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why still with a firearm
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Once again, no firearm was recovered at the scene. Then something comes out about a reporter having the whole story before the cops are even out of the driveway.
Then there is this thing about an interview that the girl was going to do with her mother but the offer didn’t come thru. Oh and did you hear that she is actually not pregnant?
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given my training in psychiatry, I don’t see a good outcome here ….unless immediate intervention is done…just my HO..did you see the wife’s interview
it is very sad…a teenager is dead who just went out to buy some candy and an Arizona tea..and a trial was held that IMHO will need analysis…given post juror comments
I know questioning your inner beliefs and what you have been taught is very challengingQuote from KW818
Once again, no firearm was recovered at the scene. Then something comes out about a reporter having the whole story before the cops are even out of the driveway.
Then there is this thing about an interview that the girl was going to do with her mother but the offer didn’t come thru. Oh and did you hear that she is actually not pregnant?
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which inner belief do I have that you think you are aware of?
His ex wife recanted her ‘story’ and admitted she never saw a weapon.
This g/f admitted to police that she was not, in fact, pregnant.
She told someone in an interview that she came across george sleeping with an empty bottle of sleeping pills next to him and she had thought he overdosed so she sat there and watched him breathe.
My inner belief that something here stinks? Is that the one you are questioning?
You see a guy that is being accused of stuff but repeatedly getting out of it and think it is some sort of conspiracy?
I see a guy that is being accused of stuff but repeatedly getting out of it as there is not enough evidence to prove it.
You want to believe he is guilty of everything without proof, I want people to be proven guilty before they are convicted.
You never know when it might be you…look up some of the videos on youtube about over the top cops, cases of mistaken identity, there are web pages dedicated to this and there is no lacking for material.
I don’t know if he did this or not, I don’t know him and really don’t care, but when we find out right at the get go the g/f lied, was shunned for her interview she had wanted, they did not recover a weapon… my “belief” is that there needs to be more investigation.
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He needs to stay away from attention whores.
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[b]He needs to stay away from attention whores. [/b]
Stand by your man Rambo?
Whats wrong Man?
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men can be attention whores to…I have met a lot of men that were such drama queens…big baby bullies that need constant attention and approval
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He needs to stay away from attention whores.
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As I suspected might happen, she dropped the charges after all…
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/us/florida-charges-against-zimmerman-are-dropped.html?src=recg]http://www.nytimes.com/20…-dropped.html?src=recg[/link]
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As I suspected might happen, she dropped the charges after all…
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/us/florida-charges-against-zimmerman-are-dropped.html?src=recg]http://www.nytimes.com/20…-dropped.html?src=recg[/link]
Looks like the ‘event’ never happened.
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he will continue to escalate IMHO
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As I suspected might happen, she dropped the charges after all…
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/us/florida-charges-against-zimmerman-are-dropped.html?src=recg]http://www.nytimes.com/20…-dropped.html?src=recg[/link]
Looks like the ‘event’ never happened.
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he will continue to escalate IMHO
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As I suspected might happen, she dropped the charges after all…
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/us/florida-charges-against-zimmerman-are-dropped.html?src=recg]http://www.nytimes.com/20…-dropped.html?src=recg[/link]
Looks like the ‘event’ never happened.
What are you trying to prove, another unlawful arrest of Z who continues to get harassed by the local popo ?
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he will escalate..IMHO…Affluenza!!!
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he will continue to escalate IMHO
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As I suspected might happen, she dropped the charges after all…
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/us/florida-charges-against-zimmerman-are-dropped.html?src=recg]http://www.nytimes.com/20…-dropped.html?src=recg[/link]
Looks like the ‘event’ never happened.
What are you trying to prove, another unlawful arrest of Z who continues to get harassed by the local popo ?
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[b]I don’t know if he did this or not, I don’t know him and really don’t care, but when we find out right at the get go the g/f lied, was shunned for her interview she had wanted, they did not recover a weapon… my “belief” is that there needs to be more investigation. [/b]
Maybe he is really just the wannabee cop with a power and control issue that many people thought he was
Maybe he is really deranged small man who is eventually going to hurt someone again.
You are a typical OJ simpson lover. He didn’t do it either and everyone is just out to get him
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I bet the jury gives him the “OJ treatment”.
20 years for felonious assault …. but really for murder. 😉You’re absolutely right. It really is starting to smell a lot like OJ all over again.
And Johnny Cochran isn’t around to help this time.
Law enforcement has requested a search warrant to find the guns. If they find that shotgun with his prints on it, there’s no way he’s not going to trial. And since he was inside her home when it happened, no Stand Your Ground nonsense is going to protect him from this felony charge.
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Once again, no firearm was recovered at the scene.
Is that true? Last thing I read was that Zimmerman himself admitted there was a gun but he had it locked inside a gun bag in the house. I’ve not seen any reports about the result of a search warrant yet.
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Thank u L for reminding the other poster of what Zimmerman said…yesy the other poster had an issue but he did not have in his background a prior arrest for shoving a cop and he did not have a history of shooting an unarm teenager who was just buying candy..denial is not the appropriate intervention here but that is why I don’t see a good outcome here..just my 2cent
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Once again, no firearm was recovered at the scene.
Is that true? Last thing I read was that Zimmerman himself admitted there was a gun but he had it locked inside a gun bag in the house. I’ve not seen any reports about the result of a search warrant yet.
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[link=http://www.palmbeachpost.com/ap/ap/top-news/george-zimmerman-arrested-on-aggravated-assault-ch/njkbR/]http://www.palmbeachpost….ated-assault-ch/njkbR/[/link]
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[h1]George Zimmerman arrested on aggravated assault charge[/b][/h1]
Florida authorities say George Zimmerman has been arrested on an aggravated assault charge.
The Seminole County Sheriff’s Office says the 31-year-old Zimmerman was arrested in Lake Mary about 10 p.m. Friday and is being held at the John E. Polk Correctional Facility. The facility’s website says Zimmerman is scheduled for a court appearance at 9 a.m. Saturday.
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another assault charge for the fox hero…he really did imho get away with murder
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If he did the crime, I hope he does the time.
As for getting away with murder, so did OJ, but no one got all that upset about it.
Uh, no one got upset? The upset was all over the news at the time. There was a lot of questioning the intelligence of the jury.
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If he did the crime, I hope he does the time.
As for getting away with murder, so did OJ, but no one got all that upset about it.
Uh, no one got upset? The upset was all over the news at the time. There was a lot of questioning the intelligence of the jury.
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said he will escalate….now if he shows up with a gun something will be done
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Nor riots over Casey Anthony verdict. Or Robert Blake (who?). Or Kelly Thomas’s killing.
Or Eric Garner’s killing.
Is that your litmus test?
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