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[link=http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-jersey-gov-christies-emails-searched-41998940]http://abcnews.go.com/US/…ails-searched-41998940[/link]
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[link=https://www.yahoo.com/news/years-gridlock-jersey-bridge-case-goes-trial-062048932.html]https://www.yahoo.com/new…s-trial-062048932.html[/link]
A federal prosecutor told jurors Monday that a witness will testify that Republican Gov. Chris Christie was told about a plan to close traffic lanes near the George Washington Bridge as the shutdown was happening, a claim he has contested for years.
The trial comes three years after gridlock paralyzed a town next to the busy bridge connecting New Jersey to New York City for four days. Prosecutors said Bill Baroni and Bridget Kelly, two former Christie allies, had sought political revenge against Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich. Baroni was a top Christie appointee to Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Kelly was Christie’s former chief of staff.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Vikas Khanna told jurors that David Wildstein, another Port Authority official, will testify he and Baroni made Christie aware of the plan during a 9/11 memorial in New York City in 2013, three days after the gridlock started.
“The evidence will show that … they bragged about the fact that there were traffic problems in Fort Lee and that Mayor Sokolich was not getting his calls returned,” Khanna said.-
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Deleted UserSeptember 19, 2016 at 12:46 pma lady died in this fiasco. whether or not she would have died had she not been in an ambulance that was caught up in the gridlock is another question, but christie’s traffic jam certainly did her no favors.
i wonder if this is a premature October surprise for the ‘pubs.
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Doubtful. If Christie is indicted or otherwise found at fault, Trump will throw him under the bus faster than anything. Trump’s loyalties depend only on what’s in it for him.
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NYT: [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/nyregion/bridgegate-trial-chris-christie.html?_r=0]Christie Was Told of Bridge Plot During 9/11 Ceremony, Witness Testifies[/url]
Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey was told about the George Washington Bridge lane closings during a Sept. 11 memorial service the week they were happening and that they were shut down to punish a mayor who had declined to endorse him, the man who orchestrated the closings testified in federal court here on Tuesday.
The man, David Wildstein, recalled how Mr. Christie reacted with laughter, clearly appreciating the news. And upon learning that the mayors calls were being met with silence, Mr. Wildstein said, the governor said in a sarcastic tone, I imagine he wouldnt get his calls returned.
Mr. Wildstein, who has admitted being the culprit behind the lane closings in 2013, testified as prosecutors showed a series of photographs of him, Mr. Christie and Bill Baroni, then the governors top staff appointee at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates the bridge, at a memorial service to mark the 12th anniversary of the terrorist attacks in Lower Manhattan.
The photos showed the three men in a loose huddle on a dirt pathway between the Sept. 11 memorial and the construction site for a tower rising at the World Trade Center site. Mr. Christie, who has previously said he did not recall the conversation, appears engaged and attentive, looking into Mr. Baronis eyes, raising his eyes and laughing in some frames, and reaching out his hands to the other two men.
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impeachment talk is up
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NYT: [link=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/nyregion/bridgegate-trial-chris-christie.html?_r=0]Christie Was Told of Bridge Plot During 9/11 Ceremony, Witness Testifies[/link]
Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey was told about the George Washington Bridge lane closings during a Sept. 11 memorial service the week they were happening and that they were shut down to punish a mayor who had declined to endorse him, the man who orchestrated the closings testified in federal court here on Tuesday.
The man, David Wildstein, recalled how Mr. Christie reacted with laughter, clearly appreciating the news. And upon learning that the mayors calls were being met with silence, Mr. Wildstein said, the governor said in a sarcastic tone, I imagine he wouldnt get his calls returned.
Mr. Wildstein, who has admitted being the culprit behind the lane closings in 2013, testified as prosecutors showed a series of photographs of him, Mr. Christie and Bill Baroni, then the governors top staff appointee at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates the bridge, at a memorial service to mark the 12th anniversary of the terrorist attacks in Lower Manhattan.
The photos showed the three men in a loose huddle on a dirt pathway between the Sept. 11 memorial and the construction site for a tower rising at the World Trade Center site. Mr. Christie, who has previously said he did not recall the conversation, appears engaged and attentive, looking into Mr. Baronis eyes, raising his eyes and laughing in some frames, and reaching out his hands to the other two men.
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NYT: [link=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/nyregion/bridgegate-trial-chris-christie.html?_r=0]Christie Was Told of Bridge Plot During 9/11 Ceremony, Witness Testifies[/link]
Looks like he wasn’t the only one told about the plot:
[size=”3″] Christie and Cuomo Cooperated in Cover-Up of Lane Closings, Ex-Official Testifies[/size]
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/05/nyregion/christie-and-cuomo-cooperated-in-cover-up-of-lane-closings-ex-official-testifies.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news]http://www.nytimes.com/20…ws&WT.nav=top-news[/link]
But of course, there is also the chance that the ‘official’ who is the source of this information is lying to minimize his own role and to maximize his leverage.
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[url=https://politicalwire.com/2016/10/01/christie-planned-trade-911-artifacts-endorsements/]Christie Planned to Trade 9/11 Artifacts for Endorsements[/url]
And they saw the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and its resources money, jobs, symbolic artifacts from the wreckage of the World Trade Center after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks as assets that could be traded for endorsements and support in both campaigns.
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[url=http://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/Chris-Christie-Official-Misconduct-Citizen-Complaint-Judge-New-York-396941861.html]
Judge Allows Official Misconduct Complaint Against Christie to Go Forward[/url][/h1]A judge has found probable cause for a complaint of official misconduct against Gov. Chris Christie related to the George Washington Bridge lane closures.
The case now goes to the Bergen County Prosecutor’s Office, which will decide whether to bring the issue to a grand jury for possible indictment.-
It’s kind of fitting that the ones backing Trump are also scandalous.
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Bridget testified today;-Christie threw a water bottle at her( alleged)
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[size=”4″][link=http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/do_no_publish_–_bridgegate_trial_jury_says_it_has.html#incart_big-photo]Bridgegate verdict: Bill Baroni and Bridget Kelly guilty on all counts[/link] [/size]
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The loyal soldier pawns pay the price while the drug lords get away.
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we will have to see how this plays out
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The loyal soldier pawns pay the price while the drug lords get away.
But maybe the hunt isn’t over yet & Christie will be brought to justice.
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[size=”4″][link=http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/do_no_publish_–_bridgegate_trial_jury_says_it_has.html#incart_big-photo]Bridgegate verdict: Bill Baroni and Bridget Kelly guilty on all counts[/link] [/size]
Classic federal case. The person who rolls over first walks away and the midlevel operatives go to jail. The kingpin shakes his head and says he is ‘disappointed’.-
Let’s see if either of the two convicted individuals go running to the prosecutors hoping for sentencing leniency exchange for a new testimony against Christie.
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[size=”4″][link=http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/11/do_no_publish_–_bridgegate_trial_jury_says_it_has.html#incart_big-photo]Bridgegate verdict: Bill Baroni and Bridget Kelly guilty on all counts[/link] [/size]
Classic federal case. The person who rolls over first walks away and the midlevel operatives go to jail. The kingpin shakes his head and says he is ‘disappointed’.
Why limited to the Feds? Typical anti-Federal government statement.
You can easily find many State and local courts actually proudly practicing miscarriages of justice much less letting the kingpins get away.
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Let’s see if either of the two convicted individuals go running to the prosecutors hoping for sentencing leniency exchange for a new testimony against Christie.
Zero leverage at this point. The time to squeal is during the investigation and right after charges are filed.
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If you need a feel good story. The port authority wouldn’t let non-governor Christie use the VIP entrance. Hopefully never again.
“The two-term Republican, who left office on Jan. 16, was blocked from a VIP entrance he had used for eight years, and directed to stand in Transportation Security Administration screening lines at Terminal B like anyone else”
[link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/mortal-again-christie-blocked-at-vip-entrance-to-newark-airport]https://www.bloomberg.com…ance-to-newark-airport[/link]-
Karma–it’s a
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If you need a feel good story. The port authority wouldn’t let non-governor Christie use the VIP entrance. Hopefully never again.
“The two-term Republican, who left office on Jan. 16, was blocked from a VIP entrance he had used for eight years, and directed to stand in Transportation Security Administration screening lines at Terminal B like anyone else”
[link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/mortal-again-christie-blocked-at-vip-entrance-to-newark-airport]https://www.bloomberg.com…ance-to-newark-airport[/link]
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Here’s some real WTF from the SCOTUS. Does this mean you can get away with anything as long it was politically motivated. Apparently the SCOTUS agrees. Rob a bank, I was politically motivated.
“But Christie’s former aide Bridget Anne Kelly’s lawyers had argued that her actions were driven by a political motive, and while that may not be attractive, it is not fraud. They argued that if Kelly can go to jail for her actions, there is no limit to who could be prosecuted.
[link=https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-1059_e2p3.pdf]The Supreme Court agreed[/link].”
[link=https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851858598/supreme-court-overturns-convictions-in-bridgegate-scandal]https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851858598/supreme-court-overturns-convictions-in-bridgegate-scandal[/link]-
So the lesson is, make sure there is no specific statute written forbidding what you are about to do & then claim it was politics & you get a hall pass regardless of everything.
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Unanimous. For RBG, Kagan and Sotomayor to get on board with this, there must have been something seriously wrong with the legal theory that underpinned the prosecutions.
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Yes, no law was broken. Power misused & bungled in a revenge tactic where the public suffered but that’s not against the law.
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malfeasance can be criminal.
But there has to be a law that makes it so. You can’t just bend a fraud statute until it applies to conduct you find reprehensible.
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Jersey has a misconduct statute
Under New Jersey’s Official Misconduct law, N.J.S.A. 2C:30-2, a public servant can be prosecuted for acts committed in their official capacity and, if convicted, imprisoned for up to ten years
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[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/09/11/chris-christie-comes-back-reality/]Matt Bai[/link]:
[b]Chris Christie comes back to reality[/b][/h1]
No leading Republican did more to legitimize Donald Trump, as he was battling to secure the partys nomination in 2016, than Chris Christie. And yet this week, the former New Jersey governor took dead aim at both Trump and his more ardent followers.
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Its worth watching Christies talk, given how tepid leading Republicans have been in publicly breaking with Trump. All this lying has done harm to our nation, to our party and to ourselves, Christie said in his speech, calling out the white supremacists and the wild extremists in the Republican ranks.
If timid acceptance is the price of admission, were not the party we have always been.…
The other thing we know is that, if someone [i]is[/i] going to finally shake Republicans from this Trumpian nightmare, its probably not going to be anyone who stood on principle from the start and is mostly popular with Democrats Mitt Romney or John Kasich or Liz Cheney.
No, its more likely to be a former Trump supporter who earned enough credibility as a loyal Republican during the Trump years to say: Enough of this. You and I have been misled, and its time to reclaim our party. It would help if that former acolyte were also an immensely gifted politician.
Chris Christie helped us get to this tragic place. Its not crazy to think he could help us get out.[/QUOTE]
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[b]Chris Christies Bogus Blunt Talk[/b]
[b]The problem with his efforts to position himself for 2024.[/b]
If there was anything positive to take from Christies Reagan Library speechsilver linings can be found in cesspools if you squint just the right way while the sun glints off fecesits the fact that someone who was so close to Trump is making the calculationat least for now, at least in the abstractthat theres political advantage in appearing to distance the Republican party from Trump and Trumpisim.
[link=https://www.thebulwark.com/chris-christies-bogus-blunt-talk/]https://www.thebulwark.com/chris-chr…us-blunt-talk/[/link]
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[link=https://secondnexus.com/chris-christie-trump-statement-election]https://secondnexus.com/c…ump-statement-election[/link]
[h1]Trump Explodes at Chris Christie in Brutal Statement After Christie Urged GOP to ‘Move on’ From 2020[/h1] Trump: Chris Christie, who just made a speech at the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC) in Las Vegas, was just absolutely massacred by his statements that Republicans have to move on from the past, meaning the 2020 Election Fraud.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDtOj78XoAo_Knm?format=jpg[/img]
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[h1]Christie Taunts Trump for Losing[/h1]
Former Gov. Chris Christie (R) hit back at Donald Trump in an interview with [link=https://www.axios.com/axios-hbo-chris-christie-donald-trump-2191cfcd-ff3a-4da5-ac7c-b887d46f63e6.html]Axios[/link].
Said Christie: Im not gonna get into a back-and-forth with Donald Trump. But what I will say is this: When I ran for reelection in 2013, I got 60% of the vote. When he ran for reelection, he lost to Joe Biden.
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[b]The Biggest Bully Is a Half Decade Late[/b]
Chris Christie is finally ready to stand up to Trump. Sort of.
Like every other pathetic, podgy, scared, insecure bully who has ever disgraced a schoolyard, Chris Christie talks a big game. But when he was called upon to meet the biggest threat of his lifea doughy, soft-handed trust-fund baby with authoritarian aspirationsChristie didnt just walk away from an argument. He waddled as fast as he could go in his urine-soaked pull-ups.
[link=https://www.thebulwark.com/the-biggest-bully-is-a-half-decade-late/]https://www.thebulwark.com/the-bigge…f-decade-late/[/link]
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[b]The Biggest Bully Is a Half Decade Late[/b]
Chris Christie is finally ready to stand up to Trump. Sort of.
Like every other pathetic, podgy, scared, insecure bully who has ever disgraced a schoolyard, Chris Christie talks a big game. But when he was called upon to meet the biggest threat of his lifea doughy, soft-handed trust-fund baby with authoritarian aspirationsChristie didnt just walk away from an argument. He waddled as fast as he could go in his urine-soaked pull-ups.
[link=https://www.thebulwark.com/the-biggest-bully-is-a-half-decade-late/]https://www.thebulwark.com/the-bigge…f-decade-late/[/link]
This piece is better (like most of what dergon posts) when read in its entirety.
In context dergon’s quote makes it sound as though poor Tim was “butt hurt”, to use an fw phrase.
“The date was February 6, 2016. The occasion was the eighth Republican primary debate in Goffstown, New Hampshire, a few days before the primary. Over the course of the first seven debates Mr. Tough Guy had not laid a single cuticle on the frontrunner, Donald Trump. While my boss at the timeJeb Bushwas getting slapped around like a ragdoll by Trumps insult comedy, Christie stood in the spot reserved for the lowest-polling candidates on the far corner of the stage, twiddling his thumbs, doing everything he could to avoid drawing Trumps ire.”
I tend to dwell on the more optimistic side of Tim’s goals.
“Chris Christie can make fun of Trump all he wants and I welcome that.[b] It is nice to hear any Republican in good standing actually admit that the orange fella lost. The more converts to reality, the merrier[/b].
But we dont have to pair that with advancing the phony BS that Christie is the one man willing to say hard truths. Admitting Trump lost isnt a hard truth, its basic reality. And Christie isnt a tough guy. Hes the most craven of bullies.”
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First week sales of Christie’s book: [link=https://pressrun.media/p/fawning-media-cant-save-christies]2,289[/link]
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Today’s Republican idea of Profiles in Courage. JFK would be impressed I am sure.
It’ll be on sale in the bargain book aisle soon.
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Apparently hes also in charge of something with republican redistributing.
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We lost in 18. We lost in 20. We lost in 21 in Georgia. And now in 22 were going to net-lose governorships, were not going to pick up the number of seats in the House that we thought and we may not win the Senate despite a president who has a 40% job approval. Theres only one person to blame for that, and thats Donald Trump.
Former Gov. Chris Christie (R), quoted by the [link=https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/after-disappointing-gop-results-trump-urged-to-delay-2024-presidential-launch]Associated Press[/link].
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[link=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2024-watch-chris-christie-trying-figure-out-theres-pathway-beating-trump-desantis]Fox News[/link]
[h1][b]Chris Christie trying to figure out if theres a pathway to beating Trump, DeSantis[/b][/h1] Christie told Fox News Digital ahead of his trip that he plans “to go up there and talk to people in New Hampshire who I know are the best-informed voters in the country about things that I think are important in the world and in our country right now and to see how they react to that, and see that what they think about things that I think are important.”
Christies said he will make a 2024 decision in the next 45 to 60 days. He explained that the three factors going into his decision will be “seeing a pathway to winning believing that you have something at that moment to offer the country that it needs to hear,” and whether he would have the support of his family.
“If I answer yes to all three of those questions, then Ill run. If I answer no to one of them, then I wont,” he said.
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Oi. Another proven arsehole testing the Republican waters. Bad retreads are just what America needs.
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I probably just wouldnt vote.
Gov. Chris Christie, when asked by [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2023/04/chris-christie-interview-trump-2024-election/673818/]The Atlantic[/link] whether he would vote for Donald Trump if he is the Republican nominee.
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Its interesting dergon, your calculus a few days ago suggested Republican turn out wound be very low if Trump is not the nominee. I know a lot of Republicans saying similar things to Christie. One more reason Trump cant win a general election.
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Its interesting dergon, your calculus a few days ago suggested Republican turn out wound be very low if Trump is not the nominee. I know a lot of Republicans saying similar things to Christie. One more reason Trump cant win a general election.
I worry about a Biden black swan event … obvious impairment, health issue, a handoff to Kamala, deep recession …
Even with low GOP turnout Trump could still sneak by in the Blue wall states and win the EC just like 2016.
I refuse to say he *can’t* win.
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Heck, Id feel better if the Dems had a better back up as well.
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