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Christie’s Bridgegate
well the emails are out
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texts are out…preventing kids to get to school…not in Kansas are we folks
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Benghazi on the Hudson…
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oh the problem of being a front runner..texts and emails and old buddies with port authority jobs
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Benghazi on the Hudson…
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Kelly will be gone…blows over in a couple of weeks. Christie’s prior flippant statements on this will hurt him from time to time (red meat to the Dem base), but I doubt this was done with Christie’s knowledge or approval–think he is smarter than that.
Note to politicians…appropriate first response is to look into and get back to you not try and be dismissive
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<Hearty chuckle>. If you think this is a big deal then you never had to deal with the inbound GWB before a Yankee game.
But, I guess this is the best the opposition can muster to counter the blatant incompetency and law breaking of obamacare implementation, the ideological targeting of 10s of 1000s of democrat opponents, or the brushed off preventable killing of the Ambassador and his staff in Libya.-
Just the beginning…where is his leadership if does not know what’s happening in his office …what criteria does he use to select staff ( McCain like decision to pick Sarah). I know this is not Kansas but really
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<Hearty chuckle>. If you think this is a big deal then you never had to deal with the inbound GWB before a Yankee game.
But, I guess this is the best the opposition can muster to counter the blatant incompetency and law breaking of obamacare implementation, the ideological targeting of 10s of 1000s of democrat opponents, or the brushed off preventable killing of the Ambassador and his staff in Libya.
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Its a good warning that things get noticed. However, its small potatoes no matter how you look at it.
Gov. Christie still maintains his small lead over Clinton at this point, despite the disparity of a much smaller national profile he has compared to Clinton. This alone demonstrates how the liberal democrat agenda is the albatross and real scandal that will be focused on at the end of this year and in 2016.-
what did Christie know and when did he know it
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Haha if you don’t think Christie knew exactly what was going on. Were you born yesterday?
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Good! Christie is just another RINO pol who will do or say whatever it takes to win. Not too different from the DemocRats. This will get him out of the way, allowing a good, principled conservative like Cruz the opportunity to lead the GOP to victory.
I never thought that Christie could harvest the pent up energy of the conservative majority.-
CNN reporting delay in emergency transport due to bridge problems
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what did Christie know and when did he know it
Someone’s going to lose their job. If the person losing their job doesnt implicate Gov. Christie, the issue is done for. Someone losing their job even over this small issue, would be distinctly unlike several of the obama’s administration boondoggles, political sabotages or crimes. During the IRS trageting, the obamacare roll-out and very selective (political motivated) enforcement, and Benghazi, nobody of significance in the administration took responsibility or got fired for anything dear leader fails at when its even obvious. As for EMS hang-ups, go to Fort Lee/parts of Englewood at the time of a Yankee playoff game or Friday during rush hour, and report back on the traffic.
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Kelly who has not lost her job yet is somewhat attractive in the basic sense….let’s see who else gets fired and how they respond.. why do I feel a Friday dump is going to occur
Wildensten????????-
Christie learned only yesterday, his aides lied to him!
And as they say, I have a bridge I can sell you too.-
Christie’s press conference was aweful
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For once, contrite. But still questions he has to answer.
[link=http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2014/01/chris_christie_bridge_scandal_1.html#incart_maj-story-1]http://blog.nj.com/njv_ed…tml#incart_maj-story-1[/link]
Investigation.
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/nyregion/christie-controversy-bridge-lane-closings.html]http://www.nytimes.com/20…dge-lane-closings.html[/link]
For Mr. Christie, one of the leading figures in the Republican Party and a likely candidate for the partys presidential nomination in 2016, the scandal represents the gravest challenge to his political career. Just as his news conference began, the United States attorneys office announced that it would open a preliminary inquiry into the matter.
The United States attorney for New Jersey, Paul J. Fishman, opened an inquiry after the matter was referred to the office by the inspector general for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which controls the bridge.
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??David Corn, I believe I saw on Hardball say it reminds you of a Sopranos episode..like…nice little bridge you have over there
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Daily Show dug into this with a vengeance:
[link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0kbSzvm5cyI]http://www.youtube.com/wa…dded&v=0kbSzvm5cyI[/link]
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[link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/01/09/chris-christie-me-me-mea-culpa]http://www.washingtonpost…ristie-me-me-mea-culpa[/link]
The entire spectacle revolved around how Christie felt. How he was deceived and lied to. How his trust was violated. How he was betrayed. How he was humiliated. How he had nothing to do with Bridge-gate. And he did this over and over again in a me-me-mea culpa that lasted an hour and a half.
What Christie failed to do over and over again was express horror over the four-day gridlock at the George Washington Bridge. He didnt rage over the impact that had on the school children who couldnt get to school. He didnt thunder about the thousands of people who were late for work or who couldnt get to work. And he didnt throw himself on the mercy of the court of public opinion over the story of delayed response times of emergency medical services and the people hurt by it. The Bergen Record[link=http://www.northjersey.com/fortlee/GWB_emails_Christie_Fort_lee_mayor.html]summed them up succinctly[/link].
[blockquote] An unconscious 91-year-old woman who later died of cardiac arrest. A car accident with multiple injuries. A missing 4-year-old.
[/blockquote] Christie is headed to Fort Lee to apologize to the people of that [link=http://www.fortleenj.org/]borough[/link] who were harmed by the lane closings. He said he wanted to apologize to Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich who was disparaged by his now-former staff, but Sokolich told him to [link=http://www.businessinsider.com/fort-lee-mayor-christie-gwb-lane-closings–2014-1]stay away[/link]. Given that traffic is a universal annoyance, Christie will have to do a whole lot more to make amends with Fort Lee and his state.
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Even a question of resigning already. I think it’s too soon unless he really is found to blame & did know. But the fact that the New York Times is asking already says volumes.
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/01/09/should-governor-christie-step-down]http://www.nytimes.com/ro…nor-christie-step-down[/link]-
It will be interesting to see how his “Apology Road Show” goes. He’ll either get standing ovations or will be booed out of existence. Big risk.
Bridget Kelly remains a wildcard. I’m sure she will be on talk shows and will get some coverage, and so don’t be surprised if Faux vilifies her (unless Christie offered her hush money, of course).
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I think this is a smear job from the hard core right wongers to get Christie out
My guess is he comes out of this stronger-
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I think this is a smear job from the hard core right wongers to get Christie out
I assume you mean the severity of the publicity and not the dirty deed, itself. It would be hard to believe Christie wouldn’t know whether righties put Kelly up to it, in which case it would only be to his advantage to reveal it if it really were true. He might possibly want to fry a lot of right (chicken) wings at this point if he could.
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someone has already pled the fifth
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wildstein
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I was listening to some Christie news guy on the radio this morning. Supposedly he almost is looking good because of how he handled this. Firing the guy and apologizing to the mayor. However, they also said he toast if anything comes out linking him to this. Goodbye political aspirations.
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Interesting how a traffic incident remotely linked to Christie generates all of these posts, yet the Gates story which is a much more significant story generates zero posts. No bias there huh!
Even though I don’t like Christie because of what he did to Romney, I think the guy is honest and accountable. A far cry from the current president. He’s being tested by fire and may come out of this the better. The piling on by the press is repulsive. This whole incident may benefit him in the end.
Christie is not my first second or third choice, but if he survives the Republican primaries I would vote for Christie against any Democrat. At least he’s not a lying sac of poop. I don’t think that I can say the same for any Democrats.-
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..At least he’s not a lying sac of poop…
And you know this simply because he looked you in the eye and said so, despite facts to the contrary?
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what type of relationship did Christie have with this Kelley that she felt comfortable to do this
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first lawsuit filed
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Interesting how a traffic incident remotely linked to Christie generates all of these posts, yet the Gates story which is a much more significant story generates zero posts. No bias there huh!
Did you post a thread on the Gates story?
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Interesting how a traffic incident remotely linked to Christie generates all of these posts, yet the Gates story which is a much more significant story generates zero posts. No bias there huh!
Did you post a thread on the Gates story?
I posted about Gates extensively the day it broke — see the Afgan thread.
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As for Christie, he was so firm in his adamant denials and so quickly took aggressive action to punish his underling that [i]if[/i] he was truly in the dark he should be able to recover. The stink of the scandal will be there a bit … he’s a bully… he’s a thug-style politician etc…. but people kind of already knew that about him.
But… and it’s a big but …. if it ever comes out that he actually [i]did[/i] direct the thing or even did know about it, then he has compounded a minor scandal with a big fat lie. Then he’s toast. But unless there’s a smoking gun or people start talking, I bet he’s OK with only a minor dent in the fender of his presidential aspirations.
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what will Kelley Say when she has to start giving depositions in future lawsuits and investigations…how is she paying the bills. Christie if u really listen talked to much in the press conference
but unlike aldi..Oh Noah’s crystal ball was like this is a bridge to somewhereQuote from dergon
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Interesting how a traffic incident remotely linked to Christie generates all of these posts, yet the Gates story which is a much more significant story generates zero posts. No bias there huh!
Did you post a thread on the Gates story?
I posted about Gates extensively the day it broke — see the Afgan thread.
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As for Christie, he was so firm in his adamant denials and so quickly took aggressive action to punish his underling that [i]if[/i] he was truly in the dark he should be able to recover. The stink of the scandal will be there a bit … he’s a bully… he’s a thug-style politician etc…. but people kind of already knew that about him.
But… and it’s a big but …. if it ever comes out that he actually [i]did[/i] direct the thing or even did know about it, then he has compounded a minor scandal with a big fat lie. Then he’s toast. But unless there’s a smoking gun or people start talking, I bet he’s OK with only a minor dent in the fender of his presidential aspirations.
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Interesting how a traffic incident remotely linked to Christie generates all of these posts, yet the Gates story which is a much more significant story generates zero posts. No bias there huh!
Gates simply criticized the policies of politicians in D.C. He doesn’t point out anything illegal. It’s presumably all ideological, and it’s not surprising since he’s a Bush appointee. Gates’ complaints are political, but his primary mission was not politics.
People are allowed their opinions, especially when it’s sour grapes after their exodus. It happens all the time and is not a reason to bring the house down on anyone. Scott McClellan did the same thing against the Bush administration in “What Happened”. Big deal.
There was never any talk about Gates running for President.
There’s plenty of talk about Christie running for President.
Ergo[b] BIG STORY.[/b]There was never any talk about Gates lying, and I’m not aware of him accusing anyone in Washington of any big lies. Christie is accused of lying; there’s even been a lawsuit, and at least one woman dies of cardiac arrest allegedly due to the excess traffic delaying her from getting proper care.
Ergo[b] BIG STORY.[/b]Christie said he only found out about this 2 days ago and yet one of his main people resigns a month ago and Christie doesn’t ask for and get all the details from his loyal servant?
Ergo [b]BIG STORY.[/b]
Kelley gets fired, NOT because of the traffic fiasco that resulted in at least one deathbut merely “because she lied to ME”. Like he would have approved her doing it as long as she kept him the loop?!
Ergo [b]BIG STORY. [/b]
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“at least one woman dies of cardiac arrest allegedly due to the excess traffic delaying her from getting proper care. ”
To use the Hillary defense – What difference does it now make?
I know that sounds harsh but it points out the bias in the media.
Obama ran for president and won, twice, but the media refuses to do its job. No tough questions, only cuddling and thrills up legs.
Obama seems to never know anything about anything til he reads it in the paper. He never “gets to the bottom” of any scandal and no one gets fired.
Careful, your hypocrisy is showing.
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amen …predicted a Friday document dump
reminded me of Michael Corleone congressional hearings in the GodFather when that guy was pleading the fifthQuote from Lux
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Interesting how a traffic incident remotely linked to Christie generates all of these posts, yet the Gates story which is a much more significant story generates zero posts. No bias there huh!
Gates simply criticized the policies of politicians in D.C. He doesn’t point out anything illegal. It’s presumably all ideological, and it’s not surprising since he’s a Bush appointee. Gates’ complaints are political, but his primary mission was not politics.
People are allowed their opinions, especially when it’s sour grapes after their exodus. It happens all the time and is not a reason to bring the house down on anyone. Scott McClellan did the same thing against the Bush administration in “What Happened”. Big deal.
There was never any talk about Gates running for President.
There’s plenty of talk about Christie running for President.
Ergo[b] BIG STORY.[/b]There was never any talk about Gates lying, and I’m not aware of him accusing anyone in Washington of any big lies. Christie is accused of lying; there’s even been a lawsuit, and at least one woman dies of cardiac arrest allegedly due to the excess traffic delaying her from getting proper care.
Ergo[b] BIG STORY.[/b]Christie said he only found out about this 2 days ago and yet one of his main people resigns a month ago and Christie doesn’t ask for and get all the details from his loyal servant?
Ergo [b]BIG STORY.[/b]Kelley gets fired, NOT because of the traffic fiasco that resulted in at least one deathbut merely “because she lied to ME”. Like he would have approved her doing it as long as she kept him the loop?!
Ergo [b]BIG STORY. [/b]-
Much more plausible reason…
[link=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-heart-the-scandal]http://www.msnbc.com/rach…/the-heart-the-scandal[/link]
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oh T saw it and I am like this thing has legs to grow. The civil lawsuits will be the downfall. I mean Kelly can plead the fifth like the other guy but the civil lawsuits will wear everyone down and people will need to pay the bills so don’t see Christie being too effective in raising money
and of course there will be some who will say it’s Obama’s faultQuote from Thor
Much more plausible reason…
[link=http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-heart-the-scandal]http://www.msnbc.com/rach…/the-heart-the-scandal[/link]
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attorney general confirmation hearing will be when Christie????
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GWB is holy to me and I will explain later why
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More is hitting the fan & Christie’s face. Gov Tom Kean is even raising doubts about Christie and the story of juvenile political retaliation is hardening to fact. Christie’s ship has taken on a few holes & some water.
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/13/nyregion/adding-to-christies-troubles-a-rift-with-a-former-mentor-widens.html]http://www.nytimes.com/20…mer-mentor-widens.html[/link]
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/13/nyregion/a-bridge-to-scandal-behind-the-fort-lee-ruse.html]http://www.nytimes.com/20…the-fort-lee-ruse.html[/link]
[link=http://www.northjersey.com/fortlee/Justification_for_GWB_study_was_flawed_from_the_start.html]http://www.northjersey.co…ed_from_the_start.html[/link]
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Quote of the day:
I really wish Christie well Im glad hes making the run. I hope he endorses Biden after Trump wins the nomination.
William Kristol, [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Flifestyle%2F2023%2F07%2F12%2Fchris-christie-2024-campaign-against-trump%2F]talking to the Washington Post[/link] about former Gov. Chris Christies presidential campaign
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Gates didn’t really say anything. Although Karzai took offense & spitefully let some prisoners loose.
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So the revived 2009 aunt minnie post already showed we were pretty much saying what Gates said. Basically it is rewarmed news based on generating book sales. Suspect we have already heard the “worst” and there won’t be additional “bombshells” when the book is publically available. That’s why it hasn’t generated a buzz….but feel free to start a new thread if you like
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Could be the case, Thor. Who knows. It might fit.
Again, if this is true, it is totally distasteful, no doubt.
The problem is that comparing it to “scandals” of the White House et al in this administration is certifiably insane. Those scandals are [b]criminal[/b].
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“I am not a bully!”
“I am not a crook!”
If you have to declare it, odds are it isn’t true. Next he’ll be declaring,
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“I am not a bully!”
“I am not a crook!”
If you have to declare it, odds are it isn’t true. Next he’ll be declaring,
“I am not incompetent!” and “I am not a liar!”???
The Onion jumps in 🙂 :
[link=http://www.theonion.com/articles/voters-shocked-christie-botched-such-an-easy-polit,34909/]http://www.theonion.com/a…h-an-easy-polit,34909/[/link]
[h1]Voters Shocked Christie Botched Such An Easy Political Cover-Up[/h1]…Americans across the nation reported that they were shocked to learn the potential 2016 presidential candidate could possibly fumble such an easy political cover-up. Man, this guy wants to be President of the United States and he cant even conceal an act of corruption this rinky-dink and run-of-the-mill from voters? Its crazy, Newark resident Carolyn Baum said in agreement with millions of stunned Americans, adding that she holds potential presidential candidates to much higher standards of subterfuge and graft. I mean, this is a total softball. If he cant even bully one little small-town mayor into submission by oppressing his constituents and get away with it, how can we reasonably believe hes politically skilled enough to cover up national scandals like orchestrating a foreign war, illegally colluding with big business, or violating the civil liberties of millions of Americans? Its a little scary, to be honest. At press time, many Americans reported their faith in Christies presidential qualifications was somewhat restored after he released a series of statements pinning the blame on others and throwing top aides under the bus.
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Amen……if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck then its a duck…The feds get involve and but you can’t hijack a bridge on 9/11( a really mean terroristic thing to do)
was web searching Bridget Kelly last night and saw 1 item on the web that a couple of years back she told the hubby she wanted a divorce…. but the internet is ablaze when you search her nameQuote from Frumious
“I am not a bully!”
“I am not a crook!”
If you have to declare it, odds are it isn’t true. Next he’ll be declaring,
“I am not incompetent!” and “I am not a liar!”???
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Interesting piece:
[link=http://www.salon.com/2014/01/10/no_really_it%E2%80%99s_over_for_christie_in_2016/]http://www.salon.com/2014…_for_christie_in_2016/[/link]Although Im on record saying a year ago that Christie would never be president, precisely because of his vengeful and bullying temperament, I actually did see a route for him to win a GOP primary, which many people dismiss. It was the same route Mitt Romney took: being the guy with the money who let the Tea Party crazies knock each other off. Romney was never the front-runner in polls, but as each rival took his or her turn in the lead (yes, Michele Bachmann was taken seriously after the Ames, Iowa, straw poll), and even won a primary here or there, Romney steadily racked up delegates and cash and wound up the last man standing, despite the loathing of the far-right base.
Christie might have done the same thing, if Sens. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and Marco Rubio all jumped in, alongside Rick Perry and maybe for some real fun, Iowas Steve King. But if Christie, like the Tea Partyers, has to endure a mini-primary to win the Establishment and big donor crown, he would be in big trouble.
Now hes in big trouble already, and you can bet GOP operatives are combing the record along with Rachel Maddows staff and dozens if not hundreds of local and national reporters, to tell the story of the real Chris Christie. Thats in addition to the state and federal investigators who will be looking for evidence that Christie knew more about the Fort Lee plot than hes shared. Christie will be spending more time with lawyers than with GOP donors in the months to come, and he may have to focus on keeping his job rather than winning the White House. His path to the White House is all but closed, even if some national pundits cant bear to admit it yet.-
anybody with half a brain would have said just reopen the lanes and we will reassess but this went on for days…what type of brain power is working in the governor’s office/port authority…forget about a 3 am call and how he will handle it/ he couldn’t handle a bridge in his own state
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anybody with half a brain would have said just reopen the lanes and we will reassess but this went on for days…what type of brain power is working in the governor’s office/port authority…forget about a 3 am call and how he will handle it/ he couldn’t handle a bridge in his own state
Chritie’ who was always a bargain budget Jeb imhoLook people, you all know darn well that if this was truly an over-the-counter traffic flow experiment, there is [i][u]no question[/u][/i] that the mayor, local police, state police, and Port Authority officials would all have been fully informed, they would all have been in lock step, and completely prepared, but [u]NONE[/u] of that happened. Only after the Port Authority exec lost his temper, accused NJ officials of violating federal law, and DEMANDED they cease their nonsense immediately did the traffic pattern return to normal.
This VERY CLEARLY was a criminal act and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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This VERY CLEARLY was a criminal act and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Oh yeah…its MUCH more severe than allowing 4 Americans to die in Bengazi or lyin to the American people about keepin their doctirs and insurance or unleashin the IRS on your politcal opponents and then appointing a BIG DONOR to over see the investigation, or trying to treasonously turn the US into a communist country.
…..yeah, Christy needs to be shot, buried, dug up, shot again, decapitated, burned, ashes thrown to the wind, gathered up again, buried again, and then whizzed on by First Dog BO.-
this was done on 9/11 an could have led to a very tragic outcome…it is so criminal and to have someone just say time for some traffic problems
Christy I was jus a potted plant in my office defense is not kosher and smells of impeachmentQuote from CardiacEvent
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This VERY CLEARLY was a criminal act and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Oh yeah…its MUCH more severe than allowing 4 Americans to die in Bengazi or lyin to the American people about keepin their doctirs and insurance or unleashin the IRS on your politcal opponents and then appointing a BIG DONOR to over see the investigation, or trying to treasonously turn the US into a communist country.
…..yeah, Christy needs to be shot, buried, dug up, shot again, decapitated, burned, ashes thrown to the wind, gathered up again, buried again, and then whizzed on by First Dog BO.
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This VERY CLEARLY was a criminal act and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Oh yeah…its MUCH more severe than allowing 4 Americans to die in Bengazi or lyin to the American people about keepin their doctirs and insurance or unleashin the IRS on your politcal opponents and then appointing a BIG DONOR to over see the investigation, or trying to treasonously turn the US into a communist country.
…..yeah, Christy needs to be shot, buried, dug up, shot again, decapitated, burned, ashes thrown to the wind, gathered up again, buried again, and then whizzed on by First Dog BO.
Yeah you’re right. We shouldn’t investigate this as a crime simply because we think other crimes are more severe?
We’re talking about the bridge fiasco here. If you want to start whining on about Clinton or Obama or Banghazi or Al Gore then go start another discussion and get lost.
I’ve had it with all of you idiots. Learn how to follow a discussion, for God sake. Are you honestly trying to claim that there probably was nothing wrong done here despite all of the facts that are published right now without having to make a single assumption or conjecture?
And you’re obviously not up on current events. There has been plenty of investigation into what happened in Benghazi over the past year and I’m sure that there will be more. And yet no one has been proven to have done anything wrong.
The bridge controversy must be investigated. Do you deny that? Or do you actually think only Democrats should be investigated when there’s an allegation of crime?
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Steve K on MsNBC noted that a major development plan was underway in the area and that for attracting investors all the lanes needed to be open
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IMHO, Christie going to see that mayor after the news broke was dumb…it could be interpreted a lot of different ways if the FEDS get involved
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This VERY CLEARLY was a criminal act and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Oh yeah…its MUCH more severe than allowing 4 Americans to die in Bengazi or lyin to the American people about keepin their doctirs and insurance or unleashin the IRS on your politcal opponents and then appointing a BIG DONOR to over see the investigation, or trying to treasonously turn the US into a communist country.
…..yeah, Christy needs to be shot, buried, dug up, shot again, decapitated, burned, ashes thrown to the wind, gathered up again, buried again, and then whizzed on by First Dog BO.
Yeah you’re right. We shouldn’t investigate this as a crime simply because we think other crimes are more severe?
We’re talking about the bridge fiasco here. If you want to start whining on about Clinton or Obama or Banghazi or Al Gore then go start another discussion and get lost.
I’ve had it with all of you idiots. Learn how to follow a discussion, for God sake. Are you honestly trying to claim that there probably was nothing wrong done here despite all of the facts that are published right now without having to make a single assumption or conjecture?
And you’re obviously not up on current events. There has been plenty of investigation into what happened in Benghazi over the past year and I’m sure that there will be more. And yet no one has been proven to have done anything wrong.
The bridge controversy must be investigated. Do you deny that? Or do you actually think only Democrats should be investigated when there’s an allegation of crime?
Im not lost, nor will I be gettin lost as long as I still bother you and the other Communists. SOMEBODY has to point out to the world how screwed up you Politburo members are, and I guess thats me.
As usual, you lyin’ Communists put words in peoples mouths to create strawman arguments. BUSTED, richboy Luxie. I never said NOT to investigate Christie. Throw the darn book at him for all I care. If he did the crime, he does the time. BUT what he did pales in comparison to what yoour little tin gods did, but I sure don’t see the press and the other Communists out there yowlin for their heads. Just tryin to make it fair, which is what you Communists SAY you want….-
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As usual, you lyin’ Communists put words in peoples mouths to create strawman arguments. BUSTED, richboy Luxie. I never said NOT to investigate Christie. Throw the darn book at him for all I care. If he did the crime, he does the time. BUT what he did pales in comparison to what yoour little tin gods did, but I sure don’t see the press and the other Communists out there yowlin for their heads. Just tryin to make it fair, which is what you Communists SAY you want….
And again with your juvenile “commies” crap.
The only thing you ever “bust” is the flow of a rational discussion.
Your waste of bandwidth is only contributing to global warming.
Get lost.
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Nope. Here to stay. So sorry.
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Oops, sorry, that was a typo. I meant “get [i]found[/i]”.
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Again, if this is true, it is totally distasteful, no doubt.
“[i]distasteful[/i]”?!
Are you [i]insane[/i]? At least one person DIED because of the traffic delays.
It’s it totally [u]CRIMINAL[/u] if it’s true.
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Never a good sign when federal investigators get involved. There doesn’t even need to be much there in the “Bridgegate” story but once people start poking around in the nooks and crannys strange tangents start to arise.
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u never want the feds.so why did Christie go see that poor mayor after the press conference…that guy did not want to see Christie imho because the feds will look at it in a different manner
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Never a good sign when federal investigators get involved. There doesn’t even need to be much there in the “Bridgegate” story but once people start poking around in the nooks and crannys strange tangents start to arise.
Christie is actually my current favorite GOP potential presidential candidate after Huntsman so I actually kind of hope he comes out OK.
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Here’s one from the right-wing-we-live-in-an-alternate-reality file:
[link=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/12/curl-chris-christies-handling-of-bridgegate-school/]http://www.washingtontime…-of-bridgegate-school/[/link]
Christie once again schools Obama on how to handle a crisis[/h1]
Heh – I suppose that’s one way to look at it. But I think the Washington Times may have gone to press a bit too early with that byline 😉
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There are many alternate reality stories from the right. Kathleen Parker thinks attacking the “bullying” media is a winning strategy. And again there is “Benghazi! Benghazi!” and of course, “Obamacare” as it being the root cause of everything that’s been wrong with the world.
And now the investigation broadens to his marketing & re-election campaign using federal Sandy funds.
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that press conference for chris imho was a disaster..he talked to much/change the story and it was a disaster..he distance himself from people like heh u work with them and hired them
the sandford guy was best like let’s just let the chips fall where they may…I only see resignation/impeachment with chrisitie..it does not look good …gross incompetence versus ?????????
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Here’s one from the right-wing-we-live-in-an-alternate-reality file:
[link=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/12/curl-chris-christies-handling-of-bridgegate-school/]http://www.washingtontime…-of-bridgegate-school/[/link]
Christie once again schools Obama on how to handle a crisis
Heh – I suppose that’s one way to look at it. But I think the Washington Times may have gone to press a bit too early with that byline 😉
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THE GOP have to sit down and look at the b-list of players including Cruz and they have to have a heart to heart with the brains of the group…they do have a legitimate candidate with Jeb but they have to let JEB do it HIS WAY and none of this crazy teabagger mess..they have lost tooo much …the need a legitimate candidate
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Lesson to Christie: Never trust a liberal. The love you give does not equal the love you get. Judas Iscariot, you sold out Romney for Obama in the hopes of being loved by the Democrats. What did that get you? Your Democrat friends are standing behind you with the long knives.
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Lesson to Christie: Never trust a liberal.
That’s rich! Never trust a liberal…because they’re lousy at lying to protect you if you’re a Republican!
Helluva lesson, aldadoc. Very profound revelation indeed.
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As my mom used to say: He who lies with dogs wakes up with fleas.
More like [i]he who hangs out with soap reveals his own dirt.[/i]
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Lesson to Christie: Never trust a liberal. The love you give does not equal the love you get. Judas Iscariot, you sold out Romney for Obama in the hopes of being loved by the Democrats. What did that get you? Your Democrat friends are standing behind you with the long knives.
As my mom used to say: He who lies with dogs wakes up with fleas.
BS Alda, Christie’s problems are all his own doing. If the Democrats ignored this they would be derelict.
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aldi , please: IMHO, he sold Romney out at the GOP convention…like his speech was about him
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Lesson to Christie: Never trust a liberal. The love you give does not equal the love you get. Judas Iscariot, you sold out Romney for Obama in the hopes of being loved by the Democrats. What did that get you? Your Democrat friends are standing behind you with the long knives.
As my mom used to say: He who lies with dogs wakes up with fleas.
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Ugh, Eastwood. How embarrassing was that?
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Ugh, Eastwood. How embarrassing was that?
Well, he preached to a purty big choir.
Just not big enough to win the election.
And the choir is getting smaller and smaller every day.
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[h1]Bridge controversy expands into new areas for Gov. Chris Christie in New Jersey[/h1] [/b]
…new documents released by Jersey City officials Monday [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/christies-staff-cut-access-to-jersey-city-mayor-who-would-not-endorse-him/2014/01/13/32d76970-7c83-11e3-9556-4a4bf7bcbd84_story.html?hpid=z1]suggest[/link] that the Christie administration punished the Democratic mayor of that town last summer by cutting off his access to top state officials when he declined to back the governors reelection bid.
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Wisniewski said he wants to use the authority to compel top Christie officials to testify. He has the backing of the state Senate president, Steve Sweeney (D), a Christie ally who said he would encourage his deputies to take the lead as a new legislative session opens this week.
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Subpoenas are expected to be issued soon to two aides who were [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/christie-ousts-two-top-advisers-in-scandal-over-lane-closures/2014/01/09/60b6288e-7933-11e3-b1c5-739e63e9c9a7_story.html?tid=auto_complete]jettisoned by Christie [/link]last week: Bill Stepien, the governors former political adviser, and Bridget Anne Kelly, his former deputy chief of staff.
Democrats said they will seek more information about the role played by David Samson, a Christie adviser and chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A cache of [link=http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/documents-show-extensive-coverup-in-george-washington-bridge-scandal/724/]bridge-related documents[/link] released last week included a text message indicating that Samson discussed a possible meeting with Christie shortly before Kelly sent an e-mail setting the lane closures in motion. -
Lawrence O’ Donnell was going thru a list of who Christie should fire next…and the list was not pretty because it will take some real nerve to fire who he said should be the next to go
not to mention could they ask Cuomo to testify if Christy called him about the bridge…it could be a ken Starr subpoena field day
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[h1]Bridge controversy expands into new areas for Gov. Chris Christie in New Jersey[/h1] [/b]…new documents released by Jersey City officials Monday [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/christies-staff-cut-access-to-jersey-city-mayor-who-would-not-endorse-him/2014/01/13/32d76970-7c83-11e3-9556-4a4bf7bcbd84_story.html?hpid=z1]suggest[/link] that the Christie administration punished the Democratic mayor of that town last summer by cutting off his access to top state officials when he declined to back the governors reelection bid.
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Wisniewski said he wants to use the authority to compel top Christie officials to testify. He has the backing of the state Senate president, Steve Sweeney (D), a Christie ally who said he would encourage his deputies to take the lead as a new legislative session opens this week.….
Subpoenas are expected to be issued soon to two aides who were [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/christie-ousts-two-top-advisers-in-scandal-over-lane-closures/2014/01/09/60b6288e-7933-11e3-b1c5-739e63e9c9a7_story.html?tid=auto_complete]jettisoned by Christie [/link]last week: Bill Stepien, the governors former political adviser, and Bridget Anne Kelly, his former deputy chief of staff.Democrats said they will seek more information about the role played by David Samson, a Christie adviser and chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A cache of [link=http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/documents-show-extensive-coverup-in-george-washington-bridge-scandal/724/]bridge-related documents[/link] released last week included a text message indicating that Samson discussed a possible meeting with Christie shortly before Kelly sent an e-mail setting the lane closures in motion.
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Lawrence O’ Donnell was going thru a list of who Christie should fire next…and the list was not pretty because it will take some real nerve to fire who he said should be the next to go
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Lawrence O’ Donnell was going thru a list of who Christie should fire next…and the list was not pretty because it will take some real nerve to fire who he said should be the next to go
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Snowball ….
Yeah. Ken Starr. People have been trying to draw parallels and distinction between “Bridgegate” and Benghazi, but the closer parallel is Whitewater.
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The closest parallel is the IRS scandal. The issue is government abuse of power. Except the IRS scandal is orders of magnitude worse than a traffic jam in New Jersey.
BTW, I don’t see an independent investigator appointed to investigate the IRS abuses, just another Obama acolyte. What a joke?
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the FEDS investigating if Sandy funds were misused to star Christie in a commercial….just the beginning
The GWB is holy because of 9/11..that bridge was used to get people out of the city and for some nasty, nasty person to choose that date to hold people hostage on it then that’s just CRiminal..that’s like nasty Meg IMHO saying Santa was white so just deal with it(nasty/nasty/nasty,/…..tired of nasty/nasty/nasty mean people)-
How about your lil tin gods allowing people to DIE on 9/11??? GUess lives aren’t as holy to the godless as bridges. And please tell me wTF Santa being white or not has to do with Christy, unless you think all fat old white guys look alike??????
I’m tired of nasty mean people too, but even more tired of Communists destryin the country and pointing fingers at other people to hide.-
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How about your lil tin gods allowing people to DIE on 9/11??? GUess lives aren’t as holy to the godless as bridges. And please tell me wTF Santa being white or not has to do with Christy, unless you think all fat old white guys look alike??????
I’m tired of nasty mean people too, but even more tired of Communists destryin the country and pointing fingers at other people to hide.
Once again, that has NOTHING to do with this discussion.
Please stop your hateful trolling NOW!
Since you’re having a hard time following any logic in any discussion, what you failed to understand is that the “Santa” comment was with regard to others who are nasty hateful people, just like you. Noah was just coming up with another way to tell you to stop your infantilism. Your adulthood is the last thing you have left now that you have zero credibility and obviously cannot keep track of a topic of a discussion, even after it’s pointed out to you.
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where is his comment” How about your lil tin gods allowing people to DIE on 9/11???” coming from
note to Cardiac: Giuliani placed the city’s emergency response operation in 7 world trade center
Just saw Ed Schultz and did Christie call Cuomo and complain about the investigation.. was that phone call tapped but if I were Cuomo I would have hung up
I hope what really comes out of this is that Nj and NY realize look we need to have people who are QUALIFIED working at the port authority…it is not the place to put political friends
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How about your lil tin gods allowing people to DIE on 9/11??? GUess lives aren’t as holy to the godless as bridges. And please tell me wTF Santa being white or not has to do with Christy, unless you think all fat old white guys look alike??????
I’m tired of nasty mean people too, but even more tired of Communists destryin the country and pointing fingers at other people to hide.
Once again, that has NOTHING to do with this discussion.
Please stop your hateful trolling NOW!Since you’re having a hard time following any logic in any discussion, what you failed to understand is that the “Santa” comment was with regard to others who are nasty hateful people, just like you. Noah was just coming up with another way to tell you to stop your infantilism. Your adulthood is the last thing you have left now that you have zero credibility and obviously cannot keep track of a topic of a discussion, even after it’s pointed out to you.
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…it is not the place to put political friends
After all, we don’t want then surpassing Horse Show Brownie’s [i]”heck of a job”, [/i]do we?
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ok this traffic jam went on for days during a time that Christie was running for re-election…now would it have not been great political theater that after the second day of the jam, he went out on the 3rd day and picked up each and every cone and reopen the lanes…that would have been far more effective for getting re-elected than some million dollar commercial where those dollars could have gone to NJ families that lost their homes due to Sandy…he can run for re-election but can’t handle a traffic jam that’s hurting potential voters
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what governor would claim that he does not know a particular mayor in his state who is working on a 1 billion dollar redevelopment plan on some of the most valuable land in the state? a reportedly micro manager Chis Christie
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the FEDS investigating if Sandy funds were misused to star Christie in a commercial….
These types of investigations tend to take on a life of their own, especially when the feds get involved. Looking for one thing, stumble across another, etc etc … the risk of a snowball effect is high here.
As Jon Stewart said – I bet Paul Ryan has a “monster boner”
Good news for Jeb Bush too.
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How about respondin to what I said instead of amusin the other members of the politburo with your witty banter?
Because you’re deflecting and I’m trying to participate in a discussion about the GWB.
But of course you have no idea what this discussion is about.
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the FEDS investigating if Sandy funds were misused to star Christie in a commercial….
These types of investigations tend to take on a life of their own, especially when the feds get involved. Looking for one thing, stumble across another, etc etc … the risk of a snowball effect is high here.
As Jon Stewart said – I bet Paul Ryan has a “monster boner”
Good news for Jeb Bush too.
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have you heard of the history of that land and why it lay dormant for so many years
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Lesson to Christie: Never trust a liberal. The love you give does not equal the love you get. Judas Iscariot, you sold out Romney for Obama in the hopes of being loved by the Democrats. What did that get you? Your Democrat friends are standing behind you with the long knives.
As my mom used to say: He who lies with dogs wakes up with fleas.
BS Alda, Christie’s problems are all his own doing. If the Democrats ignored this they would be derelict.
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The closest parallel is the IRS scandal. The issue is government abuse of power. Except the IRS scandal is orders of magnitude worse than a traffic jam in New Jersey.
BTW, I don’t see an independent investigator appointed to investigate the IRS abuses, just another Obama acolyte. What a joke?
Bull. A crock of crap. Another whole lot of nuttin except fanciful paranoid imagination.
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Bull. A crock of crap. Another whole lot of nuttin except fanciful paranoid imagination.IRS reviewed even progressive organizations & no conservative group was denied although I believe a few progressives were.
Yeah! I guess that’s why Lois Lerner pleaded the fifth.
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‘Bridgegate’ was last week. Nobody will remember next week.
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Hah, yeah, I guess the Dems will gladly agree to just sit back and let this fall by the wayside in an important election year…
Who cares why his main guy quit last month without an explanation?
Who cares what Kelly knew and when she knew it?
Who cares that the the mayor of Fort Lee, local police, state police, Port Authority, Blumberg and Cuomo all were’ t informed at all in advance about it?
Who cares that a woman died of cardiac arrest because her ambulance was stuck in the traffic?
Who cares that it was during 9/11?
Yeah, makes sense to let this one go alright.
Good call, fw.
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As a famous secretary of state once said ” What [i]difference[/i] at this point [i]does it make[/i]? [i][/i]
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And she said that within the context of GOP in Congress trying to pin something on someone for the attack. And she was right, since it’s now clear that no one did anything illegal or was even negligent. Her only point is that we needed to come up with a way to ensure that it doesn’t happen [u]again[/u]. Does the senate committee report prescribe any such recommendations?
But that doesn’t apply in the case of Christie where there clearly were a few things out of line, like never collaborating with – or even [u][i]informing[/i][/u] – the mayor or police of the “experiment”!
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Tend to agree with fw…Christie can probably duck and weave this one…but he has tossed a lot of folks overboard who know what else is in the cupboards. There is long term political significance only if there is a clear link back to Christie or all the collateral dirt gets legs
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Tend to agree with fw…Christie can probably duck and weave this one…but he has tossed a lot of folks overboard who know what else is in the cupboards. There is long term political significance only if there is a clear link back to Christie or all the collateral dirt gets legs
Gonna dent him for 2016 presidential run though. He’s going to spend most of 2014 meeting with lawyers when he should be meeting with donors.
Also the scandal might also keep some of the “Christie is the most electable candidate we have in the GOP” donors on the sidelines or moving their money to other moderates like Jeb.
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it will be a drip by drip implosion and Kelly has 4 kids and we will wait to see when the civil lawsuits start to hit her by that one person who had a panic attack while they were trapped on the bridge and the person now has post traumatic stress that she can’t go to work anymore because she can’t get on that bridge …and civil lawsuits u can’t plead the fifth..your attorney can object but it depends on the judge
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it will be a drip by drip implosion and Kelly has 4 kids and we will wait to see when the civil lawsuits start to hit her by that one person who had a panic attack while they were trapped on the bridge and the person now has post traumatic stress that she can’t go to work anymore because she can’t get on that bridge …and civil lawsuits u can’t plead the fifth..your attorney can object but it depends on the judge
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Tend to agree with fw…Christie can probably duck and weave this one…but he has tossed a lot of folks overboard who know what else is in the cupboards. There is long term political significance only if there is a clear link back to Christie or all the collateral dirt gets legs
Gonna dent him for 2016 presidential run though. He’s going to spend most of 2014 meeting with lawyers when he should be meeting with donors.
Also the scandal might also keep some of the “Christie is the most electable candidate we have in the GOP” donors on the sidelines or moving their money to other moderates like Jeb.
But if there is no smoking gun and the people he dissmissed continue to walk the line even under oath then yeah, he’s probably OK in the long run.
Have to agree. It’s gonna dent him but not break him unless new evidence shows up. If it plays out that some of his staff really went rogue, then his character of not putting up with bafones on his team will be well received. Something that has been surely missed in prior Presidential administrations. He could end up using that finger pointing liar act that Clinton did. And if does so… that just puts him on ths same demi-god level as many current power politicians in our country. I’m hopeing for a no none-sense President again, in my life time. Teddy R / Kennedy and Regan seemed to be the model for me.
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“The Boss” isn’t too happy with Christie.
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/nyregion/christie-and-springsteen-a-tale-of-devotion-and-a-very-public-snub.html]http://www.nytimes.com/20…-very-public-snub.html[/link] -
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Tend to agree with fw…Christie can probably duck and weave this one…but he has tossed a lot of folks overboard who know what else is in the cupboards. There is long term political significance only if there is a clear link back to Christie or all the collateral dirt gets legs
Gonna dent him for 2016 presidential run though. He’s going to spend most of 2014 meeting with lawyers when he should be meeting with donors.
Also the scandal might also keep some of the “Christie is the most electable candidate we have in the GOP” donors on the sidelines or moving their money to other moderates like Jeb.
But if there is no smoking gun and the people he dissmissed continue to walk the line even under oath then yeah, he’s probably OK in the long run.
Have to agree. It’s gonna dent him but not break him unless new evidence shows up. If it plays out that some of his staff really went rogue, then his character of not putting up with bafones on his team will be well received. Something that has been surely missed in prior Presidential administrations. He could end up using that finger pointing liar act that Clinton did. And if does so… that just puts him on ths same demi-god level as many current power politicians in our country. I’m hopeing for a no none-sense President again, in my life time. Teddy R / Kennedy and Regan seemed to be the model for me.
There is still plenty of time for both Him and Hillary to “[b][i]do some more esplain’n lucy[/i][/b]”.
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[link=http://www.commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=1b2e2eb9-0bdb-4b28-a515-c110c2402aac]http://www.commerce.senat…4b28-a515-c110c2402aac[/link]
[blockquote] [i]”No formal approval process to conduct a traffic study (as more fully discussed in the response to Question 1) was sought prior to the toll lane closures made on September 9, 2013.”[/i]
[i]”TRANSCOM was not notified in advance of the new toll lane closures at the GWB Upper Level toll plaza (Tr. 127).”[/i]
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20 subpoenas today
shout out to Loretta Weinberg who kept pressing for answersI’d like to see a new Hillary/Christie survey now that the Benghazi report is out…
Thursday the 16th PPP did a New Hampshire head-to-head Clinton/Christie of at 43%-39%. Same spread going back to mid 2013.
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Thursday the 16th PPP did a New Hampshire head-to-head Clinton/Christie of at 43%-39%. Same spread going back to mid 2013.
Thanks. Unfortunately, that survey was [i]reported [/i]on Jan 16, but it was conducted on Jan 9-12, before the committee’s report was released. See page footer here:
[link=http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2014/PPP_Release_NH_116.pdf]http://www.publicpolicypo…PPP_Release_NH_116.pdf[/link]
In any case, in that report Christie, Bush, Huckabee, and Paul are all neck and neck within margin of error.
Clinton vs. Christie is at 43% vs. 39%, but that’s within the margin of error too (2.4%-4.4% depending on the survey question). Who knows what that’s turned into now that the senate report’s been released and 20 more subpoenas were sent out about the Bridge?
However, it’s very interesting that Clinton/Bush is 49% vs. 38% which is outside the margin of error. That’s a reason for the GOP to push Christie in spite of past RINO allegations.
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Maybe Romney will run again. He should have won last time, if the press hadn’t been covering for the Liar-in-Chief.
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Maybe Romney will run again. He should have won last time, if the press hadn’t been covering for the Liar-in-Chief.
Romney did a good job cooking his own goose.
Yeah, who needs the press when your own audience has a cell phone camera?
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; the port authority has to look at who is representing them and who is representing Christie (potential conflict of interest)and the tax payers of New Jersey who suffered thru Sandy/bridgegate have to wonder are we ultimately the ones who have to pay for this
but Aldi will always say but what about
plans in Florida concerning Christie’s visit have changed a bit from what I heard on MsNBC and the 8 am Saturday show tomorrow has the mayor from Hoboken on
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the final movie produced from all this in 10 years will top American Hustle in such a phenomenal way…
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where is your outrage concerning McCain’s comments on Rice’s intelligence
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Noah, you sure got your panties in a wad over Christie’s little 2 hour traffic jam in New Jersey. You seem fixated with Christie. Relax, he was never going to get the Republican nomination anyhow.
Where is your indignation over the politicalization and weapoinzing of the IRS by the Obama administration? or the bungling of security in Benghazi. Or the denying of backup? Or knowingly sending out Susan Rice to lie to Americans in six Sunday shows?
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where is your outrage concerning McCain’s comments on Rice’s intelligence
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Noah, you sure got your panties in a wad over Christie’s little 2 hour traffic jam in New Jersey. You seem fixated with Christie. Relax, he was never going to get the Republican nomination anyhow.
Where is your indignation over the politicalization and weapoinzing of the IRS by the Obama administration? or the bungling of security in Benghazi. Or the denying of backup? Or knowingly sending out Susan Rice to lie to Americans in six Sunday shows?
Mccrane maybe questioned her intelligence as in information rather than her intellekt. But if a white person says somethin about a nonwhite person that could possibly be misconscrewed by you pantywadded Communists, that’s zactly what you will do. Why don you answer aldas question? Cuz you can’t. -
To quote testimony offered by former Sec. of State Hillary Clinton before Congress, Christie should just say “At this point in time, what difference does it make?” Good for the goose….
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I think Noah mentioned “Narcissist” referring to to Christie. All leaders are Narcissistic to a point, even you Doctors (but we call you prima donnas in the field). Look at our current President, though he has his own Narcissistc act down, he can’t convience people to do things for him. Christie’s a straight shooter. If he’s done somehting wrong, I’m sure he’ll admit it, provide an appology; make admends or leave. AND most of all, give you a moderately good answer. You won’t see any sort of that from the current left.
I’m just amazed how much media is being utilized for such a “Who cares” event.
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The reason is to deflect and distract from the current problems in the W.H. admin.
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Did anyone read the Time article on what held Mitt back by Halperin and Heilmann: the article speaks volumes now
“when you look below the surface, Newton said, it’s not pretty”
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The reason is to deflect and distract from the current problems in the W.H. admin.
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looking at a Clear and Present Danger , the movie on the military channel and there is a scene in the film where the Harrison Ford character tells the President not to deny he knows someone and tell the press that we were friends because it would give the media nowhere to go and you can’t diffuse an explosion once it has gone off…well you have to wonder how that picture of Christie and David W on 9/11 together would have played out in the press had Christie said in his now infamous press conference that he had been with David on that day instead of really I didn’t know the guy
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what governor per the Time article has a special 24 million election for another race so the limelight of his win gets all the media for his election night
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I think Noah mentioned “Narcissist” referring to to Christie. All leaders are Narcissistic to a point, even you Doctors (but we call you prima donnas in the field). Look at our current President, though he has his own Narcissistc act down, he can’t convience people to do things for him. Christie’s a straight shooter. If he’s done somehting wrong, I’m sure he’ll admit it, provide an appology; make admends or leave. AND most of all, give you a moderately good answer. You won’t see any sort of that from the current left.
I’m just amazed how much media is being utilized for such a “Who cares” event.
Um, I think you’re jumping the gun just a wee bit here. Let’s wait and see how Christie’s pesky bridge thang sorts out before jumping to any premature conclusions rather than hanging your hat on “I’m [u][i][b]sure[/b][/i][/u] he’ll admit it”, ok?
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Straight shooter straight into his foots, Cuda.
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The Hoboken mayor says she will take a lie detector test which I have not heard from the other side..I believe all we have seen is someone plead the fifth
if you have not actually received approved money this long after the Hurricane the why is that??????
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Straight shooter straight into his foots, Cuda.
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I don’t know the facts, no one does, but Noah seriously,
“I’ll take a lie detector test”
when no one knows if she will or won’t, or if she’ll ever have to has nothing to do with evidence and is totally hollow.
You gasp at meaningless straws and supposedly genuine statements but look the other way when someone (like Susan Rice) outright lies to the American public on behest of her boss and refuse to look into it because “it doesn’t matter anyway” or “what difference does it make”
The Christie situation is distasteful and shouldn’t happen. The Obama administration you refuse to look into with even the most cursory suspicion is at best lying and deceiving and at worst, nefarious and tyrannical.
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but do you think that building group should get the contract after what the Hoboken mayor says…I mean really…how will it look now
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I don’t know the facts, no one does, but Noah seriously,
“I’ll take a lie detector test”when no one knows if she will or won’t, or if she’ll ever have to has nothing to do with evidence and is totally hollow.
You gasp at meaningless straws and supposedly genuine statements but look the other way when someone (like Susan Rice) outright lies to the American public on behest of her boss and refuse to look into it because “it doesn’t matter anyway” or “what difference does it make”
The Christie situation is distasteful and shouldn’t happen. The Obama administration you refuse to look into with even the most cursory suspicion is at best lying and deceiving and at worst, nefarious and tyrannical.
Come on, man
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well, don’t mix apples to oranges: as the Hoboken mayor says their city needs help and how the FEMA dollars are distributed are quite critical …
to play devil’s advocate who would think the US Blago attorney would be here…are there any similarities to oh who I name for this seat is gold to oh how I distribute these FEMA dollars for Sandy could be gold…like what can I or my buddies get out of this if this money is distributed
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I think Noah mentioned “Narcissist” referring to to Christie. All leaders are Narcissistic to a point, even you Doctors (but we call you prima donnas in the field). Look at our current President, though he has his own Narcissistc act down, he can’t convience people to do things for him. Christie’s a straight shooter. If he’s done somehting wrong, I’m sure he’ll admit it, provide an appology; make admends or leave. AND most of all, give you a moderately good answer. You won’t see any sort of that from the current left.
I’m just amazed how much media is being utilized for such a “Who cares” event.
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time is catching up / at some point people have to start showing their cards.. Money has to be raised/Teams built/ Iowa and NH visits made with cohesive pulled together Teams..the losing side last time lost some money and times are tight/ am I backing a winner this time
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20 subpoenas today
shout out to Loretta Weinberg who kept pressing for answersI’d like to see a new Hillary/Christie survey now that the Benghazi report is out…
Thursday the 16th PPP did a New Hampshire head-to-head Clinton/Christie of at 43%-39%. Same spread going back to mid 2013.
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IF what the Hoboken mayor says about Sandy FEMA dollars getting to Hoboken are true…then the feds need to be in on this
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IF what the Hoboken mayor says about Sandy FEMA dollars getting to Hoboken are true…then the feds need to be in on this
Well, the claim is very specific and seems hard to believe it could be anything other than what it says:
[blockquote][i]”An allegation that Christie aides held desperately needed money hostage to other political concerns could also serve to undermine Christies widely praised handling of the devastating storm.”[/i]
[i]”Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer said on MSNBC that she was twice told in person that her city needed to approve the development project in order to receive funding it had requested for post-storm rebuilding projects…Zimmer provided MSNBC with an entry from her personal diary in which she recounted the incident, which she said she wrote later that day.”[/i]
[i] ‘The word is that you are against it, and you need to move forward or we are not going to be able to help you. I know its not right these things should not be connected but they are, she says, and if you tell anyone, I will deny it.’ “[/i]
[i]”Zimmer said she was given the same message four days later by Richard Constable, Christies community affairs commissioner[/i]
[/blockquote] [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hoboken-mayor-christie-aides-tied-sandy-fund-requests-to-support-for-project/2014/01/18/d6f63e86-805d-11e3-9556-4a4bf7bcbd84_story.html?hpid=z3]http://www.washingtonpost…d84_story.html?hpid=z3[/link]
As one comment after that article put it:[i] “It’s becoming increasingly difficult to imagine how all of Christie’s aides simultaneously developed the idea that they should hold the public interest hostage to their political concerns while Christie sat in his office picking daisies.”[/i]
You can run from something like this, but you can’t hide.
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Aldi; IMHO…u do have to admit that sometimes watching a narcissist at play can be fascinating…like the statement and I was a jock
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Noah, you sure got your panties in a wad over Christie’s little 2 hour traffic jam in New Jersey. You seem fixated with Christie. Relax, he was never going to get the Republican nomination anyhow.
Where is your indignation over the politicalization and weapoinzing of the IRS by the Obama administration? or the bungling of security in Benghazi. Or the denying of backup? Or knowingly sending out Susan Rice to lie to Americans in six Sunday shows?
