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  • btomba_77

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    January 3, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-lawyers-send-cease-and-desist-letter-to-bannon/2018/01/03/b4d1ad7e-f0ff-11e7-97bf-bba379b809ab_story.html?utm_term=.b621c88efb84]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.b621c88efb84[/link]
     
    [b]Trumps lawyers send cease-and-desist letter to Bannon[/b]
     

    In a letter sent Wednesday night, Trumps lawyers told Bannon his comments to author Michael Wolff in a soon-to-be-released tell-all book violate Bannons employment agreement with Trump in numerous ways and also defame the president.
     
    You have breached the Agreement by, among other things, communicating with author Michael Wolff about Mr. Trump, his family members, and the Company, disclosing Confidential Information to Mr. Wolff, and making disparaging statements and in some cases outright defamatory statements to Mr. Wolff about Mr. Trump, his family members, and the Company, the letter reads.
     
    Trump is described as being enraged at Wolffs new book, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, that describes him as not prepared to be president, poorly informed about the basics of governing and ridiculed at times behind his back.

     
    I very much hope that some of these Trump NDAs can be pierced.   A lot more people would be talking.

    • 100574

      Member
      January 3, 2018 at 9:11 pm

      such a Joke–legal action is imminent–like a lawsuit would be a disaster for him–more legal eyes looking at you but he did not sue ALL the women he said he would sue
      Ivanka dumb as a brick-OUCH

      Quote from dergon

      [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-lawyers-send-cease-and-desist-letter-to-bannon/2018/01/03/b4d1ad7e-f0ff-11e7-97bf-bba379b809ab_story.html?utm_term=.b621c88efb84]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.b621c88efb84[/link]

      [b]Trumps lawyers send cease-and-desist letter to Bannon[/b]

      In a letter sent Wednesday night, Trumps lawyers told Bannon his comments to author Michael Wolff in a soon-to-be-released tell-all book violate Bannons employment agreement with Trump in numerous ways and also defame the president.

      You have breached the Agreement by, among other things, communicating with author Michael Wolff about Mr. Trump, his family members, and the Company, disclosing Confidential Information to Mr. Wolff, and making disparaging statements and in some cases outright defamatory statements to Mr. Wolff about Mr. Trump, his family members, and the Company, the letter reads.

      Trump is described as being enraged at Wolffs new book, Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, that describes him as not prepared to be president, poorly informed about the basics of governing and ridiculed at times behind his back.

      I very much hope that some of these Trump NDAs can be pierced.   A lot more people would be talking.

      • 100574

        Member
        January 3, 2018 at 9:15 pm

         
        More than a dozen lawmakers last month met with a Yale University psychiatry professor for two days to discuss President Trump’s fitness for office, Politico 
         
        Dr. Bandy X. Lee reportedly met with the group of lawmakers on Dec. 5 and Dec. 6 and warned them the president is “going to unravel.” All of the lawmakers in attendance were Democrats, except for one Republican senator.
        [b] [/b][i] [/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
         

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          January 3, 2018 at 9:31 pm

          The damage is done. There’s hit pieces all over based on this book. Also interesting how the lawyers are looking to enforce an NDA since none of this stuff is true per DJT.

          Love the part about him eating McDs in his bathroom while locked in his bedroom.

          • 100574

            Member
            January 3, 2018 at 10:05 pm

            so according to Sarah Sanders-DT continued to talk with Bannon even though he thought Bannon had lost his mind
            it’s official folks–Crazy likes Crazy–both should have had Psych Clearances on Day 1 –cause Both these dudes have Moore tattooed on their backside
            Melania was in tears the night of the election–see when u are complicit-Karma
            crack Don, Jr like an egg

            • yao.bw39_792

              Member
              January 3, 2018 at 11:00 pm

              Some fun excerpts from the book.
              [link=https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/03/the-wildest-claims-about-trump-from-michael-wolffs-fire-and-fury.html]https://www.cnbc.com/2018…ffs-fire-and-fury.html[/link]

              • Unknown Member

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                January 3, 2018 at 11:34 pm

                Sounds like a whole lot of fake news to me. Would not be surprised if Bannon comes out saying his views were substantially misrepresented. But it is amusing to watch Leftists gossiping like old ladies on a park bench. 

  • btomba_77

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    January 4, 2018 at 6:29 am

    From [link=http://nym.ag/2CD4Yy3]New York Magazine[/link]:
    [blockquote] He conducted more than 200 interviews. In true Trumpian fashion, the administrations lack of experience and disdain for political norms made for a hodgepodge of journalistic challenges. Information would be provided off-the-record or on deep background, then casually put on the record. Sources would fail to set any parameters on the use of a conversation, or would provide accounts in confidence, only to subsequently share their views widely. And the presidents own views, private as well as public, were constantly shared by others. The adaptation presented here offers a front-row view of Trumps presidency, from his improvised transition to his first months in the Oval Office.
    [/blockquote] [link=https://www.axios.com/how-michael-wolff-did-it-2522360813.html]Mike Allen[/link] reports Wolff also has tapes to back up quotes in his incendiary book dozens of hours of them.
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 4, 2018 at 7:04 am

    [link=https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2018/01/04/what-a-day-lawsuit-threats-flying-bannon-trump-relationship-set-aflame-mercers-kick-bannon-to-the-curb-thr-running-another-wolff-excerpt-today-bday-david-kihara-234712]Playbook[/link]: The White House cant argue simultaneously that [link=http://amzn.to/2CEnaHI]the book[/link] is completely incorrect and Bannon violated a non-disclosure agreement. If he violated a non-disclosure agreement then something he said was right!

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 4, 2018 at 7:34 am

    Now Trump has sent a cease and desist to the reporter Michael Wolff and the publisher trying halt the book going to press.
     
    Good luck with that. (Although I would love to see the open discovery if Trump moves forward with litigation 🙂  )

    • btomba_77

      Member
      January 4, 2018 at 7:37 am

      [h2]Trump Aide Said Drafting of Statement Was Obstruction[/h2] [link=https://www.axios.com/axios-am-2522224225.html]Axios[/link] has more from Michael Wolffs [link=http://amzn.to/2CEnaHI]book[/link]:

      On the the July 8 preparation aboard Air Force One of the initial (and false) explanation about the Trump Tower meeting with Russians during the campaign, made under Trumps personal direction: Ivanka, according to the later recollection of her team, would shortly leave the meeting, take a pill, and go to sleep. Jared, in the telling of his team, might have been there, but he was not taking a pencil to anything.

      Nearby, in a small conference room watching the movie [i]Fargo[/i], were Dina Powell, Gary Cohn, Stephen Miller, and H. R. McMaster, all of whom would later insist that they were, however physically close to the unfolding crisis, removed from it.

      Mark Corallo [former spokesman for Trumps personal legal team] privately confiding [to Wolff] that he believed the meeting on Air Force One represented a likely obstruction of justice quit.

      [/QUOTE]
       

      • julie.young_645

        Member
        January 4, 2018 at 8:21 am

        Before you drown by salivation….peek at the Wiki listing for Mr. Wolff:
         
        [blockquote] [h2]Criticism[/h2] In its review of Wolff’s book [i]Burn Rate[/i], [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brill%27s_Content]Brill’s Content[/link][/i] criticized Wolff for “apparent factual errors” and said that 13 people, including subjects he mentioned, complained that Wolff had “invented or changed quotes”.[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wolff_(journalist)#cite_note-21][21][/link][/sup]
        In a 2004 cover story for [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Republic]The New Republic[/link][/i], Michelle Cottle wrote that Wolff was “uninterested in the working press,” preferring to focus on “the power playersthe moguls” and was “fixated on culture, style, buzz, and money, money, money.” She also noted that “the scenes in his columns arent recreated so much as createdspringing from Wolffs imagination rather than from actual knowledge of events.” Calling his writing “a whirlwind of flourishes and tangents and asides that often stray so far from the central point that you begin to wonder whether there is a central point.”[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wolff_(journalist)#cite_note-22][22][/link][/sup]
        The [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Journalism_Review]Columbia Journalism Review[/link][/i] criticized Wolff in 2010 when he suggested that [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times]The New York Times[/link][/i] was aggressively covering the breaking [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_International_phone_hacking_scandal]News International phone hacking scandal[/link] as a way of attacking [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation]News Corporation[/link] chairman [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch]Rupert Murdoch[/link].[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wolff_(journalist)#cite_note-23][23][/link][/sup]
         
        [/blockquote]  

        • btomba_77

          Member
          January 4, 2018 at 8:23 am

          I look forward to the criticism and fact-checking.

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            January 4, 2018 at 9:10 am

            All the complaints are coming form Trump and the Administration. Haven’t heard Bannon complain the book is misrepresenting him. So who cares about a single criticism of an earlier Wolff book. It’s this one that counts & the only one claiming “fake news” are the boys who are constantly crying “Wolff!” Pardon the pun.
             
            If anyone knows about fake news it is Trump who constantly uses it.
             
            Another comedic point, Trump claiming Bannon was “only” a staffer. Unfortunately for him Bannon was a staffer who knows quite a bit & his opinion about Trump, his Administration & Trump, Jr. are his opinion, something that was valued until only a few hours ago.
             
             

            • Unknown Member

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              January 4, 2018 at 9:14 am

              All of this Leftist whining and scorning about Trump, while he takes concrete, yet moderate steps to boost an America that’s been slumping for decades.
               
              It’s ok, guys. You can hoot and jeer from the peanut gallery, but you may jump on board the Trump train to success at any time you wish. 

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                January 4, 2018 at 9:54 am

                Whining??? Im eating popcorn & enjoying the nonstop show.

                • julie.young_645

                  Member
                  January 4, 2018 at 10:05 am

                  So let me get this straight. Per Mr. Wolff, Trump [i]didn’t[/i] want to be President, but colluded with the Russians to get himself elected. Did I get that right? 
                   
                  I, too, am enjoying the show…which is being staged by delusional Trump-hating Lefties. 
                   
                   

                  • Unknown Member

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                    January 4, 2018 at 10:41 am

                    Curious

                    Why is this a left wing media thing

                    Bannon said the stuff

                    No one is denying that

                    From my outside perspective this seems like a sheet show of Bannon badmouthing Ivanka jarred and junior

                    Seems like the lefties are sitting back and enjoying the show

                    Basically anything negative about trump cry cry cry about left wing media….. well basically this was from the king of alt right media…… straight out of his mouth

                    • julie.young_645

                      Member
                      January 4, 2018 at 10:52 am

                      We have yet to see just what Bannon did or didn’t say. He came out yesterday saying Trump was a “Great Man” and I don’t think he was referring to his girth. 
                       
                      Let’s face it…the Left wing media has declared itself the weapon to be used against Trump (and anyone who supports him in the slightest.) 
                       
                      Again, please help me understand….Trump didn’t want to be President, but colluded with the Russians to beat Shrillary.  Guess that’s just above my pay-grade. 

                  • 100574

                    Member
                    January 4, 2018 at 12:04 pm

                    oh I just love seeing the dumb duped Trump supports contort themselves in all different positions over this book–the guy is a LOSER

                  • kaldridgewv2211

                    Member
                    January 4, 2018 at 12:17 pm

                    Quote from DoctorDalai

                    So let me get this straight. Per Mr. Wolff, Trump [i]didn’t[/i] want to be President, but colluded with the Russians to get himself elected. Did I get that right? 

                    I, too, am enjoying the show…which is being staged by delusional Trump-hating Lefties. 

                    Did Wolff say that Trump colluded?  I didn’t notice that part.  When I read the NYmag story it seemed to read that he eventually embraced it.  How can this be Trump-hating Lefties when it’s Steve Bannon who’s firing shots?
                     
                    Let’s get Bannon on DR Phil for a lie detector test.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      January 4, 2018 at 12:35 pm

                      Basically dalai and the trumpers are trying to change the argument

                      Not sure why

                    • kaldridgewv2211

                      Member
                      January 4, 2018 at 12:39 pm

                      Trump’s getting $h1t on from the left, middle, and the right.  I can’t imagine it’s fun to be around DJT today.  That ego must be wreaking havoc.

                    • julie.young_645

                      Member
                      January 4, 2018 at 1:21 pm

                      Quote from kpack123

                      Basically dalai and the trumpers are trying to change the argument

                      Not sure why

                      Many of the Bannon “quotes” concern the Russian stuff, so yes, Wolff is pushing the fake Russiagate meme. And that Trump didn’t want to be President. So why would Trump collude with Russia if he didn’t want to be President? 
                       
                      I take it you boys have no answer for that, just as you had no answer for the fact that Khrushchev proudly intervened to help JFK in 1960. 

                    • Unknown Member

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                      January 4, 2018 at 1:29 pm

                      Bannon and Trump are going to be just fine.
                       
                      [link=http://theweek.com/speedreads/746669/after-public-blowup-trump-touts-that-bannon-changed-tune-called-great-man] After public blow-up, Trump touts that Bannon ‘changed his tune,’ called him ‘a great man’
                      [/link]
                       
                      [link=https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/948764898028412929]https://twitter.com/olive…tus/948764898028412929[/link]
                       

                      Quote from tweet

                      “Nearly 2 hours into ‘Breitbart News Tonight’ Sirius XM radio show, a caller references Trump’s comments on Bannon. Bannon replies, ‘The president of the United States is a great man. You know I support him day in and day out.'”

                       
                      Carry on, Leftists.

                    • 100574

                      Member
                      January 4, 2018 at 2:12 pm

                      Chris Ruddy Trump’s friend just called Bannon delusional–he should watch his words-if Bannon sues for defamation-all 3 could in up with court ordered psych evaluations

                    • 100574

                      Member
                      January 4, 2018 at 2:13 pm

                      yes but his friend probably with his consent just called Bannon delusional( Chris Ruddy)

                      Quote from Jan the Third

                      Bannon and Trump are going to be just fine.

                      [link=http://theweek.com/speedreads/746669/after-public-blowup-trump-touts-that-bannon-changed-tune-called-great-man] After public blow-up, Trump touts that Bannon ‘changed his tune,’ called him ‘a great man’
                      [/link]

                      [link=https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/948764898028412929]https://twitter.com/olive…tus/948764898028412929[/link]

                      Quote from tweet

                      “Nearly 2 hours into ‘Breitbart News Tonight’ Sirius XM radio show, a caller references Trump’s comments on Bannon. Bannon replies, ‘The president of the United States is a great man. You know I support him day in and day out.'”

                      Carry on, Leftists.

                    • 100574

                      Member
                      January 4, 2018 at 2:14 pm

                      Bannon does want the Mercer money

  • Unknown Member

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    January 4, 2018 at 11:00 am

    The writer says he has tapes

    Bannon doesnt deny saying it. I heard him on the radio today he al but admitted the book quotes were his

    Again not sure how this is some left wing thing

    If anything I would think Bannon hates Trumps kids and was caught on tape bad mouthing them

    I could buy that counter argument

    But left wing conspiracy……. ummmmm thats a major gigantic reach

  • 100574

    Member
    January 4, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    it’s complicated–his backers wanted it for all the tax cuts, etc and Moscow saw a useful idiot and it also just leads to his ego/own greed

    Quote from DoctorDalai

    Quote from kpack123

    Basically dalai and the trumpers are trying to change the argument

    Not sure why

    Many of the Bannon “quotes” concern the Russian stuff, so yes, Wolff is pushing the fake Russiagate meme. And that Trump didn’t want to be President. So why would Trump collude with Russia if he didn’t want to be President? 

    I take it you boys have no answer for that, just as you had no answer for the fact that Khrushchev proudly intervened to help JFK in 1960. 

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      January 4, 2018 at 5:05 pm

      I’m reading some of the book notes. He apparently has said something like “were in the back of the room when God handed out brains” in reference to the Trump boys.

      • Unknown Member

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        January 4, 2018 at 5:12 pm

        That’s actually kind of clever. 
         
        The Trumps aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. Will not dispute that.

        • 100574

          Member
          January 4, 2018 at 6:02 pm

          so breaking news–WH lawyer lobbied Sessions to not recuse and did Jeff look for dirt on Comey
          Recall Dean did go to prison

        • julie.young_645

          Member
          January 4, 2018 at 6:56 pm

          Quote from Jan the Third

          That’s actually kind of clever. 

          The Trumps aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. Will not dispute that.

           
          Yeah…they run a multi-billion dollar company and Dad is President of the US. I would love to have my tools that sharp. 

          • 100574

            Member
            January 4, 2018 at 7:14 pm

            are U that naïve that U think they run that company??? I think a better picture would be to look at the SC building which the state rule is not our responsibility( Don’Jr’ work project)  or the hotel in Baku-is anyone actually in that building

            Quote from DoctorDalai

            Quote from Jan the Third

            That’s actually kind of clever. 

            The Trumps aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. Will not dispute that.

            Yeah…they run a multi-billion dollar company and Dad is President of the US. I would love to have my tools that sharp. 

            • julie.young_645

              Member
              January 4, 2018 at 7:17 pm

              Noah, I blocked you a long time ago as I don’t have the time or energy to decipher your stuff. Not going there now, either. 

            • 100574

              Member
              January 4, 2018 at 7:19 pm

              the Trump WH imho is in search for a fall guy–

              • 100574

                Member
                January 4, 2018 at 7:23 pm

                Mueller has substantiated Comey’s testimony–Breaking news

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  January 4, 2018 at 8:31 pm

                  Requoting someone making excellent points regarding loose wheels on the bus as the lugs loosen.

                  Interesting to note that anyone who leaves his administration and causes Trump to get negative coverage, was only a minor player.

                  Bannon – Minor player with a role that required the highest level of security clearance.

                  Papadopoulous – Minor unpaid player who somehow managed to get photographed in a meeting with Trump.

                  Flynn – Minor player with the administration a short time.

                  Manafort – Minor Manager of his whole campaign.

                  I wonder who the major players are?

                  • 100574

                    Member
                    January 5, 2018 at 12:34 am

                    We all know the answer to that –in his head-he is major–only I can fix it
                    not so nice what he is alleged to have said to Hope Hicks but again it shows she is unqualified for the job that she holds-no one on DT team seems to get it that they are suppose to be working for the country–not for Dt or for Corey to get better press/ Javanka to advance the profile
                    as an aside I hope there is an effort by Congress/medical profess. to make  Bipolar Disease/recognition a medical issue that needs to be addressed by the nation just like the opiod crisis –it is a crisis
                    – Diagnosis/Treatment/-Recognize signs:-delusions of grandeur/flight of ideas/pressured speech/impulsive behavior/heightened sense of importance/Exhibit provocative, intrusive, or aggressive behavior[b][/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]

                    Quote from Frumious

                    Requoting someone making excellent points regarding loose wheels on the bus as the lugs loosen.

                    Interesting to note that anyone who leaves his administration and causes Trump to get negative coverage, was only a minor player.

                    Bannon – Minor player with a role that required the highest level of security clearance.

                    Papadopoulous – Minor unpaid player who somehow managed to get photographed in a meeting with Trump.

                    Flynn – Minor player with the administration a short time.

                    Manafort – Minor Manager of his whole campaign.

                    I wonder who the major players are?

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      January 5, 2018 at 5:47 am

                      [[b]What Wolff got right:[/b]
                       
                      [link=https://www.axios.com/the-wolff-lines-on-trump-that-ring-unambiguously-true-2522675021.html]Mike Allen and Jim Vande Hei[/link]: There are definitely parts of Michael Wolffs [link=http://amzn.to/2CEnaHI][i]Fire and Fury[/i][/link] that are wrong, sloppy, or betray off-the-record confidence. But there are two things he gets absolutely right, even in the eyes of White House officials who think some of the books scenes are fiction: his spot-on portrait of Trump as an emotionally erratic president, and the low opinion of him among some of those serving him.
                       
                      In the past year, we have had many of the same conversations with the same sources Wolff used. We wont betray them, or put on the record what was off.
                       

                    • ruszja

                      Member
                      January 5, 2018 at 7:58 am

                      Quote from sentinel lymph node

                      – Diagnosis/Treatment/-Recognize signs:-delusions of grandeur/flight of ideas/pressured speech/impulsive behavior/heightened sense of importance/Exhibit provocative, intrusive, or aggressive behavior[b][/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]

                      Flight of ideas, writing without punctuation, answering your own posts on an internet forum, outsized sense of importance etc. Sounds like you speak from a position of experience.

          • Unknown Member

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            January 5, 2018 at 9:35 am

            Quote from DoctorDalai

            Quote from Jan the Third

            That’s actually kind of clever. 

            The Trumps aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. Will not dispute that.

            Yeah…they run a multi-billion dollar company and Dad is President of the US. I would love to have my tools that sharp. 

             
            I think you and I can glean a certain measure of one’s intelligence from his or her speech, can we not? The Trumps are not sophisticates. They may be shrewd and successful in business, but I simply don’t think they’re the most intelligent people out there. (Nor, by the way, is Obama – lest I be thought to be one of the herd who think him to be a genius. I don’t. He just has a certain [i]ennui [/i]that gives the appearance of lofty intellectual detachedness.) 
             
            Doesn’t mean I’m not happy to have voted for Trump. But would I prefer a Teddy Roosevelt (IMO, the most accomplished man to have ever served in that office)? Absolutely.

            • julie.young_645

              Member
              January 5, 2018 at 9:47 am

              Don’t fall into the NeverTrumper’s trap. They hate Trump because he is not “genteel and refined” as they would like to envision themselves. He is a coarse New York businessman, and I personally think that is exactly what this nation needs to combat those who would see us destroyed, both from within and from without. 

              • Unknown Member

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                January 5, 2018 at 10:06 am

                Dalai

                Maybe many of them just dont like the white Nationalist aspect of trump or the bizarre or inappropriate tweets of a 10 yr old

                GWB tried to parlay that unrefined aspect and the same people loved him

                Just my 2 cents

                That being it said its your party maybe you are right

                • julie.young_645

                  Member
                  January 5, 2018 at 10:15 am

                  I truly think I am right on this. The previous occupant attempted to “fundamentally transform” this nation into a Socialist banana republic, and that would have been completed by Shrillary had she won. 
                   
                  Just because a handful of white supremacists like Trump does not make him one of them. That is a false tautology. Trump is probably the least racist President in our lifetime. Don’t forget he has Jewish children and grandchildren, and employs more women and other minorities than any of his predecessors. I find the tweets endearing to some degree, and appreciate the raw connection they provide, not filtered or altered by the media who by and large wanted the “fundamental transformation.” 
                   
                  Get over your media-induced revulsion and try to look at what the man is [i]really [/i]doing, not what PMSNBC [i]tells [/i]you he’s doing. 

                  • kaldridgewv2211

                    Member
                    January 5, 2018 at 10:36 am

                    Quote from DoctorDalai

                    Just because a handful of white supremacists like Trump does not make him one of them. That is a false tautology. Trump is probably the least racist President in our lifetime. Don’t forget he has Jewish children and grandchildren, and employs more women and other minorities than any of his predecessors. I find the tweets endearing to some degree, and appreciate the raw connection they provide, not filtered or altered by the media who by and large wanted the “fundamental transformation.” 

                    Get over your media-induced revulsion and try to look at what the man is [i]really [/i]doing, not what PMSNBC [i]tells [/i]you he’s doing. 

                    He may not be a white supremacist as in putting on his white hood but he certainly did validate them.  They said as much during their unite the white rally.  
                     
                    It’s inappropriate that our government is based on what he feels like tweeting.
                     
                    I know right.  You’ll never here the lame street media report about how Donald Trump was responsible for such an impeccable 2017 air safety record.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      January 5, 2018 at 10:44 am

                      I could not disagree with you more Dalai

                      He is transforming nothing

                      Please tell me and show me what Betsy Davos is transforming???

                      That the earth is 10,000 yrs old and everyone should be homeschooled because less desirable people should not go to school with her kind????

                      That science doesnt really really exist?????

                      WTF dalai

                      You couldnt be more wrong on this and in 5- 10 yrs you will see that Im right

                      This guy is a disgraceful publicity seeking know nothing…… basically a Kardashian in a blue suit

                      You will see

                      Remember you once bought into the WMD stockpiles too

                      Same propaganda sheet to feed the same crowd different year

                    • Unknown Member

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                      January 5, 2018 at 10:46 am

                      Endearing tweets

                      My button is bigger than yours

                      Yep endearing if you are a fng 7 yr old

                    • Unknown Member

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                      January 5, 2018 at 10:54 am

                      Dalai you are just a total apologist on this issue

                      My question is why?

                      Its not like you are the payroll or anything

                      Strange

              • Unknown Member

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                January 5, 2018 at 10:17 am

                Quote from DoctorDalai

                Don’t fall into the NeverTrumper’s trap. They hate Trump because he is not “genteel and refined” as they would like to envision themselves. He is a coarse New York businessman, and I personally think that is exactly what this nation needs to combat those who would see us destroyed, both from within and from without. 

                Well, I certainly don’t hate Trump for his lack of refinement. But I would like to see a President who uses the word “whom” and listens to Beethoven.

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    January 4, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    To Dalai’s comment on billion dollar company. I’ve only ever seen things that say estimated value. It’s not a public company to my knowledge so no one knows the numbers. Sort of like his taxes. He might have $3billion in real estate and $4 billion in debt (maybe to shady Russians). He owns golf courses and Golf is a dying business.

    Not his direct descendant but I’ve seen estimations that Kush is in way over his head on real estate.

    • yao.bw39_792

      Member
      January 4, 2018 at 10:22 pm

      How much of his money was from money laundering or other illegal activity?

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    January 5, 2018 at 10:23 am

    Quote from DoctorDalai

    Don’t fall into the NeverTrumper’s trap. They hate Trump because he is not “genteel and refined” as they would like to envision themselves. He is a coarse New York businessman, and I personally think that is exactly what this nation needs to combat those who would see us destroyed, both from within and from without. 

    It would be great if we saw his taxes or any financial info that would shed light on what kind businessman he actually is.  What you call course I’d call catastrophically stupid.  Like tweeting about your nuclear button.  

    • Unknown Member

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      January 5, 2018 at 10:30 am

      Regardless of the details, it’s not easy to make such a great real estate empire that yours is a worldwide household name. 

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        January 5, 2018 at 10:59 am

        Quote from Jan the Third

        Regardless of the details, it’s not easy to make such a great real estate empire that yours is a worldwide household name. 

        Right now it’s the name.  Arguably it was easy for him being that his father was massively wealthy Fred Trump who had a real estate empire which he took over and renamed TRump Organization.  Trump is a name Brand and that I’ll give him.  However, I don’t know of anyone who’s looking to stay at a Trump Hotel, buy a Trump shirt/tie, or MAGA hat.  I’ve played Trump National Doral but I didn’t like it as much as Seminole or Indian Creek.  Good course though. 

        • julie.young_645

          Member
          January 5, 2018 at 11:21 am

          Let’s see if any of us could parlay $100 million into whatever $billion Trump is worth. 

          • Unknown Member

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            January 5, 2018 at 12:01 pm

            Id like to try that

          • ruszja

            Member
            January 5, 2018 at 12:21 pm

            Quote from DoctorDalai

            Let’s see if any of us could parlay $100 million into whatever $billion Trump is worth. 

            Deutsche Bank valued him at $970mil in 2010. In the 90s, his net worth was negative.
            He himself values his ‘brand’ at 3.5B which is curious as people are paying money to get out of his licensing deals. At this point his ‘brand’ is toxic.

            He started out at $140mil in 1974 and now he is maybe at $1.5B to $2.5B. That’s pretty mediocre as investors go. A Standard & Poor’s index fund would have beaten him.

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    January 5, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    Quote from DoctorDalai

    Let’s see if any of us could parlay $100 million into whatever $billion Trump is worth. 

    My point earlier was prove his worth?  I can’t remember where I heard this, maybe Bruce Bartlett, but Trump made a small fortune by squandering a large fortune.  He’ll tell you he’s a billionair 10 times over.  I thought I read he was worth less than $300mil in cash.  If you invested $100million in an index fund in 2009 that’s be worth like $400mil now right?  If you did that in the 70’s you’d be bucks up.  Like I said though no one really knows because he won’t release financial info.
     
    Doesn’t he hate when people question his worth?  Maybe it’s really a lot of fiction.

    • Unknown Member

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      January 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm

      He is Kardashian in a blue suit from a personal standpoint but they are actually probably better business people

      • btomba_77

        Member
        January 5, 2018 at 2:06 pm

        [link=https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/05/dinner-attendee-says-book-account-accurate/]Dinner Attendee Says Book Is Accurate[/link][/h2]
        Janice Min, who was one of six people at the Steve Bannon-Roger Ailes dinner at Michael Wolffs townhouse in January 2017, told [link=http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/details-in-michael-wolff-s-fire-and-fury-are-accurate-janice-min-1130081347958]MSNBC[/link] that every word from the evening detailed in Michael Wolffs new book, [link=http://amzn.to/2lXAOuY][i]Fire and Fury[/i][/link], is accurate.

         

        • Unknown Member

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          January 5, 2018 at 4:06 pm

          Our guy still won the election, while your gal was stumbling around castigating Americans who actually care about their own country.

          Democrats could have won, but they chose to prioritize non-Americans over Americans. And we noticed.

          • Unknown Member

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            January 5, 2018 at 4:08 pm

            I couldn’t care less about the chaos in the White House. End chain migration, slash legal immigration, and/or end DACA? If 2/3 are done, I’ll give DJT an A+.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 9, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/us/politics/feinstein-fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-transcript.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…impson-transcript.html[/link]
     
    Dianne Feinstein unilaterally releases the transcripts from the Fusion GPS congressional testimony.
     
    Analysis coming , but one interesting tidbit is that Fusion head claimed that Steele had said the FBI had a “walk-in whistleblower” from the Trump campaign.
     
    Give it an hour or two and someone will have parsed the documents in full.

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      January 9, 2018 at 2:19 pm

      Seems like the main thing I’ve seen is that the testimony indicated the FBI had a walk in whistle-blower from the Trump team that cooberates at least some of the dossier.
       
      Also queue the GOP outrage that Feinstein is obstructing justice etc….

      • julie.young_645

        Member
        January 9, 2018 at 2:53 pm

        [link=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/09/somebodys-already-been-killed-because-trump-dossier-fusion-gps-rep-revealed.html]http://www.foxnews.com/po…-gps-rep-revealed.html[/link]
         
        “Someone’s already been killed…”  Sounds a little dramatic…

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          January 9, 2018 at 3:15 pm

          Quote from DoctorDalai

          [link=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/09/somebodys-already-been-killed-because-trump-dossier-fusion-gps-rep-revealed.html]http://www.foxnews.com/po…-gps-rep-revealed.html[/link]

          “Someone’s already been killed…”  Sounds a little dramatic…

          Not really.  You don’t know who it refers to.  If you haven’t noticed, some people have a knack for dying in Russia under strange circumstances.  Like journalist.
           
          Another bad day for Donald.  

          • 100574

            Member
            January 13, 2018 at 9:41 pm

            now I see why Bannon threw Manafort under the bus about that meeting–Manafort is going down—->that Russian Oligarch is suing Manafort in court–where is Manafort going to get the money  since has already put up so much to stay on home arrest

            • 100574

              Member
              January 16, 2018 at 10:53 am

              Bannon subpoenaed by Mueller

          • julie.young_645

            Member
            January 16, 2018 at 11:48 am

            Quote from DICOM_Dan

            Quote from DoctorDalai

            [link=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/09/somebodys-already-been-killed-because-trump-dossier-fusion-gps-rep-revealed.html]http://www.foxnews.com/po…-gps-rep-revealed.html[/link]

            “Someone’s already been killed…”  Sounds a little dramatic…

            Not really.  You don’t know who it refers to.  If you haven’t noticed, some people have a knack for dying in Russia under strange circumstances.  Like journalist.

            Another bad day for Donald.  

            Bad day for Donald? More like a bad day for the Clinton machine that’s doing the killing. Just ask Seth Rich…Oh, wait, you can’t….

            • 100574

              Member
              January 16, 2018 at 11:52 am

              HRC–the life raft for TrumpVille–won’t work

              Quote from DoctorDalai

              Quote from DICOM_Dan

              Quote from DoctorDalai

              [link=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/09/somebodys-already-been-killed-because-trump-dossier-fusion-gps-rep-revealed.html]http://www.foxnews.com/po…-gps-rep-revealed.html[/link]

              “Someone’s already been killed…”  Sounds a little dramatic…

              Not really.  You don’t know who it refers to.  If you haven’t noticed, some people have a knack for dying in Russia under strange circumstances.  Like journalist.

              Another bad day for Donald.  

              Bad day for Donald? More like a bad day for the Clinton machine that’s doing the killing. Just ask Seth Rich…Oh, wait, you can’t….

              • btomba_77

                Member
                January 16, 2018 at 12:12 pm

                I like the foxnews headline.
                 
                [b]’Sloppy Steve’ to Squeal? [/b]

                • 100574

                  Member
                  January 16, 2018 at 11:27 pm

                  Sloppy Steve shaved today
                  my take on his actions today was to buy time and try to get a deal with Mueller given that he in the past he did not need a lawyer
                  his lawyer though–? conflict of interest

                  Quote from dergon

                  I like the foxnews headline.

                  [b]’Sloppy Steve’ to Squeal? [/b]

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    January 17, 2018 at 5:20 am

                    That’s my take too.   Stall with Congress until he can get in to a room with Mueller and then Steve can let him know that he knows where the bodies are buried.
                     
                     Although unless there a lot we don’t know about Bannon, there is nothing that jumps out to show him having any criminality.
                     
                    So open a full honesty might be good enough.  Maybe Bannon wants to see what, if anything, Mueller has on him before he talks.

                    • kaldridgewv2211

                      Member
                      January 17, 2018 at 8:48 am

                      Quote from dergon

                      That’s my take too.   Stall with Congress until he can get in to a room with Mueller and then Steve can let him know that he knows where the bodies are buried.

                      Although unless there a lot we don’t know about Bannon, there is nothing that jumps out to show him having any criminality.

                      So open a full honesty might be good enough.  Maybe Bannon wants to see what, if anything, Mueller has on him before he talks.

                      Is it possible that’s he perhaps in the “smartest person in the room” scenario.  So with Bannon it seemed what we heard originally was that he wanted to push his own agenda.  Sort of upend the system.  He couldn’t do it from within and was let go by team Trump.  However, he was in a position that gives him the inside knowledge.  So now he can burn it down anyway if he wanted.

                    • julie.young_645

                      Member
                      January 17, 2018 at 9:19 am

                      Assuming he wants to burn it down. He might just get in there and tell Mueller the FBI has become a sh1th0le. 

                    • kaldridgewv2211

                      Member
                      January 17, 2018 at 9:37 am

                      because Bannon has some inside knowledge of the FBI or is that just based on your feelings?

                    • 100574

                      Member
                      January 17, 2018 at 11:42 am

                      what did Scaram say about Bannon–he likes to suck his own
                       
                      ote=DICOM_Dan]

                      Quote from dergon

                      That’s my take too.   Stall with Congress until he can get in to a room with Mueller and then Steve can let him know that he knows where the bodies are buried.

                      Although unless there a lot we don’t know about Bannon, there is nothing that jumps out to show him having any criminality.

                      So open a full honesty might be good enough.  Maybe Bannon wants to see what, if anything, Mueller has on him before he talks.

                      Is it possible that’s he perhaps in the “smartest person in the room” scenario.  So with Bannon it seemed what we heard originally was that he wanted to push his own agenda.  Sort of upend the system.  He couldn’t do it from within and was let go by team Trump.  However, he was in a position that gives him the inside knowledge.  So now he can burn it down anyway if he wanted.

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              January 16, 2018 at 12:15 pm

              Quote from DoctorDalai

              Quote from DICOM_Dan

              Quote from DoctorDalai

              [link=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/09/somebodys-already-been-killed-because-trump-dossier-fusion-gps-rep-revealed.html]http://www.foxnews.com/po…-gps-rep-revealed.html[/link]

              “Someone’s already been killed…”  Sounds a little dramatic…

              Not really.  You don’t know who it refers to.  If you haven’t noticed, some people have a knack for dying in Russia under strange circumstances.  Like journalist.

              Another bad day for Donald.  

              Bad day for Donald? More like a bad day for the Clinton machine that’s doing the killing. Just ask Seth Rich…Oh, wait, you can’t….

              Every day it seems he’s more of a one man circus than a president.  Grab your Clinton crutch if you will and use it stoke your WikiLeaky, fringey, conspiracies.  However, what I said about Russian journalists is correct.  Especially the Putin critics.  They seem to die mysterious, and violent deaths.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 16, 2018 at 11:27 am

    Quote from sentinel lymph node

    Bannon subpoenaed by Mueller

    And Mueller using the grand jury (so no lawyer present)  … as opposed to just a sit down talk.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 17, 2018 at 5:43 am

    [url=http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/369278-bannon-plans-to-cooperate-with-russia-probe-nbc-source]Bannon will cooperate with Mueller investigation[/url]

    Former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon reportedly plans to cooperate with special counsel [link=http://thehill.com/people/robert-mueller]Robert Mueller[/link]’s team of investigators when he appears for questioning. 

    NBC News, citing a source close to Bannon, [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/bannon-plans-cooperate-special-counsel-russia-probe-source-says-n838271]reported[/link] early Wednesday that Bannon intends to “answer any questions” asked by the special counsel. Similarly, [link=https://www.axios.com/bannon-to-tell-all-again-this-time-to-mueller-6a74f852-6b34-45b4-9b0d-26b67a8c4327.html]Axios reported[/link] that Bannon “intends to fully cooperate with Mueller.”[/QUOTE]

  • julie.young_645

    Member
    January 17, 2018 at 9:43 am

    Both…

    • btomba_77

      Member
      January 17, 2018 at 10:09 am

      [link=http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/house-panel-subpoenas-bannon-russia-probe-showdown-52397685]http://abcnews.go.com/Pol…robe-showdown-52397685[/link]

      White House was directing Bannon’s attorney during congressional testimony in real time.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 18, 2018 at 6:15 am

    [b]Investigators question whether the NRA funneled Russian money to the Trump campaign[/b]

    The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, [link=http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html#storylink=cpy]McClatchy[/link] reports.

    FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russias central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 18, 2018 at 6:16 am

    [b]GOP may hold Bannon in contempt[/b]

    Rep. Peter King (R-NY), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said he might support a contempt citation for Stephen Bannon if he continues to buck questions on Russian election interference, [link=http://politi.co/2mRlG3y]Politico[/link] reports.

    Said King: I have contempt for Bannon anyway.

    • ruszja

      Member
      January 18, 2018 at 7:05 am

      Quote from dergon

      [b]GOP may hold Bannon in contempt[/b]

      Rep. Peter King (R-NY), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said he might support a contempt citation for Stephen Bannon if he continues to buck questions on Russian election interference, [link=http://politi.co/2mRlG3y]Politico[/link] reports.

      Said King: I have contempt for Bannon anyway.

       
      Its not contempt if you decline to answer a question based on advice of counsel. He is a lawyer, he should know that.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        January 18, 2018 at 7:25 am

        I don’t think he is immune from contempt is he’s taking direction from the White House counsel. White House counsel isn’t his lawyer.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        January 18, 2018 at 9:18 am

        Quote from fw

        Quote from dergon

        [b]GOP may hold Bannon in contempt[/b]

        Rep. Peter King (R-NY), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said he might support a contempt citation for Stephen Bannon if he continues to buck questions on Russian election interference, [link=http://politi.co/2mRlG3y]Politico[/link] reports.

        Said King: I have contempt for Bannon anyway.

        Its not contempt if you decline to answer a question based on advice of counsel. He is a lawyer, he should know that.

         
         
        Sure it can be.  If your counsel advises you incorrectly you can still be held in contempt.
         
        You might have a malpractice case against your lawyer… but you’re not exempt.

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