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CNN reporting on document detailing Trumps campaign’s colloboration with Russian operative
[link=http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html]http://www.cnn.com/2017/0…port-russia/index.html[/link]
Copy of the report CNN is reporting on:
[link=https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html]https://www.documentcloud…gence-Allegations.html[/link] -
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What I was reading is that they have blackmail type information on Trump.
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What I was reading is that they have blackmail type information on Trump.
which means?
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What I was reading is that they have blackmail type information on Trump.
which means?
I don’t know what it means at this point or if it’s even valid. Maybe they have pictures of him diddling kids and that seems like it would hod some pretty strong leverage over Trump. It just reads like they have a blackmail file on him.
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The blackmail stuff is the fake 4chan hoax.
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It’s no surprise he was doing perverted stuff, and I actually don’t care.
It’s the ongoing collaboration with Putin I find troubling.-
British Intelligence–M-six
Remember the FEds bust of the female Russian Spy–a honey trap
-do you actually think Russia would let him go un-notice when he had the pageant there and was meeting with oligarchs–this imho would be easy picking spying -
well come on there are some perverted stuff that is a no—this is just in general and aside from Trump:-underage girls;-asphyxiation crap/-on tape of you being used as a toilet
also not acceptable is a Marion Barry like tape of snorting up cokeQuote from Nice Guy
It’s no surprise he was doing perverted stuff, and I actually don’t care.
It’s the ongoing collaboration with Putin I find troubling.-
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well come on there are some perverted stuff that is a no—this is just in general and aside from Trump:-underage girls;-asphyxiation crap/-on tape of you being used as a toilet
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It’s no surprise he was doing perverted stuff, and I actually don’t care.
It’s the ongoing collaboration with Putin I find troubling.Again what is the real world relevance of this? DJT will become POTUS in 10 days with a republican senate and house
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LOL you all realize this is a hoax released by /pol on 4chan (a hilarious hacker forum) that was sent to all the media outlets to get them to take the bait to prove they will publish anything i.e. fakenews? Buzzfeed ran with the bait and other supposedly reputable sources (CNN) followed suit without verification. Cant wait to see the fall out from this. This confirms that either the media is a joke as they don’t verify or the CIA is a joke (they bundled the fake prostittute golden shower stuff from 4chan into the actual Russia hack intelligence). I’m betting on the former. I’d post the link to the thread back from November confirming this operation but lots of NSFW stuff on there. Easy to find though, feel free to check it out outside of work.
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Also, check out the relevant portions of the document itself and compare to the formatting and wording of actual intelligence documents. Its obviously a joke (excerpt below) and confirms our mainstream media is a joke.
“According to Source D, where s/he had been present, TRUMP’s (perverted) conduct in Moscow included hiring the presidential suite of the Ritz Carlton Hotel, where he knew President and Mrs OBAMA (whom he hated) had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia, and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitutes to perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him. The hotel was known to be under FSB control with microphones and concealed cameras in all the main rooms to record anything they wanted to.”
Who falls for that? I can understand Buzzfeed falling for this but CNN. Wow.
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What I was reading is that they have blackmail type information on Trump.
which means?
I don’t know what it means at this point or if it’s even valid. Maybe they have pictures of him diddling kids and that seems like it would hod some pretty strong leverage over Trump. It just reads like they have a blackmail file on him.
So if potentially if DJT is a pedophile, then what? Pence becomes POTUS?-
Until they pin Pence as a pedophile as well… and then Rex.
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The Guardian coverage is prety good:
[url=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jan/11/trump-dossier-russia-has-compromising-material-on-president-elect-live-updates]Russian dossier of compromising information on Trump: Live updates[/url]
Summary_
[ul][*][link=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts]FBI handed dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts[/link][*]Moscow alleged to have enough material to blackmail Trump[*][link=https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/10/buzzfeed-publishes-donald-trump-russia-documents-ethics-questions]Unverified, potentially unverifiable documents published by BuzzFeed[/link][*]Trump accuses intelligence agencies of leaking fake news [/ul]
And the predictable tweet-response from Trump
[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-press-conference.html]Trump States His Case Against a Compromising Dossier: Fake News[/url]-
if this wa HRC –the GOP mob would be out with string her up–but the delicate Cinderella Trump team with their failing Celebrity Apprentice and a man still engaged in multiple laws suits are whining
wonder if elder GOP said we don’t want to take orders from some snot nose uppity NY kid whose dad went to the federal pen
-well Obama was no drama–Trump will be imho drama, swamp and the potential collapse of the USAQuote from dergon
The Guardian coverage is prety good:
[link=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jan/11/trump-dossier-russia-has-compromising-material-on-president-elect-live-updates]Russian dossier of compromising information on Trump: Live updates[/link]
Summary_
[ul][*][link=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts]FBI handed dossier alleging secret Trump-Russia contacts[/link][*]Moscow alleged to have enough material to blackmail Trump[*][link=https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/10/buzzfeed-publishes-donald-trump-russia-documents-ethics-questions]Unverified, potentially unverifiable documents published by BuzzFeed[/link][*]Trump accuses intelligence agencies of leaking fake news [/ul]
And the predictable tweet-response from Trump
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-press-conference.html]Trump States His Case Against a Compromising Dossier: Fake News[/link]
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Better move out then.
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I am not going anywhere–be gone u have no power here
-the delicate Trump Cinderella’s stuck with a pumpkin floating in a swampQuote from dontmindme
Better move out then.
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2 issues at play here 1 pretty like fake butt the other story is the one with legs
1.Did The king of fake news propaganda get punked
golden showers and Russian hookers is more interesting than pizza shop kiddie porn rings
The real question is….is this the new normal
2. The real story is the Russian ties
This is what CNN is focused on….. they seem to be more Zeroed in on the actual ties between the trump campaign and Russia …….. and there is a whole lotta smoke there
One of these stories will go away soon…the other story may bring the clown down
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they seem to be more Zeroed in on the actual ties between the trump campaign and Russia …….. and there is a whole lotta smoke there
This is even in doubt. The report asserts Trump campaign official Micheal Cohen met w Russian operatives in Prague. Cohen has claimed he has never been in Prague. His passport verifies he was never in Prague. Also the date that the report claims he was in Prague he was at UCLA with his son visiting with an athletic coach.
While it is troubling if it is true, if not CNN, MSNBC (going on an on last night) and other outlets have a lot of explaining to do. If not true it continues to prove their continued attempt to smear. But then again I guess this is the media Meryl Streep is hoping for.-
they seem to be more Zeroed in on the actual ties between the trump campaign and Russia …….. and there is a whole lotta smoke there
This is even in doubt. The report asserts Trump campaign official Micheal Cohen met w Russian operatives in Prague. Cohen has claimed he has never been in Prague. His passport verifies he was never in Prague. Also the date that the report claims he was in Prague he was at UCLA with his son visiting with an athletic coach.
While it is troubling if it is true, if not CNN, MSNBC (going on an on last night) and other outlets have a lot of explaining to do. If not true it continues to prove their continued attempt to smear. But then again I guess this is the media Meryl Streep is hoping for.-
Did Meryl Streep secretly switch the RNC platform to have a more favorable Russian tone last summer
…….. oh wait the trump team did that
This is where it gets interesting. Congressional hearings are coming
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And in light of trumps fondness for golden showers, in one week
We have the Innaug-urination
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…….. rumor has it the inauguration will be streaming
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The salacious stuff will get some headlines …. but the Russia stuff is where the political threat is.
John McCain already calling for a special select committee to investigate. Pressuring McConnell hard. Regardless, McCain says Armed Services Committee will investigate.-
John McCain should go back to war hawking in Syria and backing Al-Qaeda. Ask him where 100s of humvees went
Oh yeah, he was part and parcel to the failed Iraq again US policy of creating worse and worse middle eastern states
McCain has been part of the problem for a long, long time dergon
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John McCain should go back to war hawking in Syria and backing Al-Qaeda. Ask him where 100s of humvees went
Oh yeah, he was part and parcel to the failed Iraq again US policy of creating worse and worse middle eastern states
McCain has been part of the problem for a long, long time dergon
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Maybe he wasn’t so wrong in skipping the daily ‘intelligence’ briefing. If the agencies can be trolled by the some 4-chan loons, the rest of their information should be considered suspect.
A past british prime minister stated about his ‘intelligence briefing’ that it didn’t contain anything he couldn’t read in the morning times.
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In the CNN article above they report that the CIA has checked out the former British intelligence operative and his network in Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the briefing to the President and the President elect.
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In the CNN article above they report that the CIA has checked out the former British intelligence operative and his network in Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the briefing to the President and the President elect.
Except that Clapper has released a statement that the IC did not verify this thing and only included it for informational purposes. This was a heads up, ‘hey Mr president there is this looney-bin stuff from those silly britons being shopped around, just for your information in case someone brings it up’.
During month 1 in office the new CIA director has some firing to do. If the content of the PDB gets leaked by ‘multiple intelligence officials’, it’s probably time to clean house.
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Maybe he wasn’t so wrong in skipping the daily ‘intelligence’ briefing. If the agencies can be trolled by the some 4-chan loons, the rest of their information should be considered suspect.
A past british prime minister stated about his ‘intelligence briefing’ that it didn’t contain anything he couldn’t read in the morning times.
Rather rich that the Party, the Orange Guy and his supporters who have gained so much using “fake news” and false stories and propaganda are complaining about so-called fake news. I mean, the Orange Guy started with Birtherism, Hillary was accused of not just fake stories about Benghazi & letting our guys get killed but of outright murder herself & even running a child sex slave operation out of a pizza parlor and Trump inviting Putin to do more hacking against Hillary with the source of the hacks being the discredited story that Podesta used Password1 as his password.
The shoe is on the other foot now with Trump’s side having to explain stories. If they are hoaxes, then a lot of FBI and CIA people have been interested enough in the hoax as to investigate further. As I recall recent wars have been started on hoaxes that were embraced by the same party complaining of so-called hoaxes now. If the stories turn out to be true, well bring it all out into the open and let’s see who has been elected President!
BRING IT ON! to quote Dubbya.
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Apparently the FBI thinks this “hoax” is true enough that they applied for wiretaps on 4 members of Trump’s team last summer to investigate their association and possible collusion with the Russians. And let’s not forget Trump’s outright call for Russia to actually hack Clinton in order to help his campaign.
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Hmmmmmm Russian Hookers and Golden SHowers
Must be something about those Germans
4 years of reality TV. for the public is basically a bait and switch
Under Trump the Rich are going to get richer and the wedge between Rich and Poor will be larger.
Time to sit back and figure out how to Play the next 4 years
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NYT: [url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trump-intelligence-report-explainer.html]What We Know and Dont Know About the Trump-Russia Dossier[/url]
[b]What We Dont Know[/b]
Whether any of the claims in the memos are true. American intelligence agencies have not confirmed them, and Mr. Trump has said they are a complete fabrication. In addition, one specific allegation that Mr. Trumps lawyer, Michael Cohen, met with a Russian official in Prague in August or September has been denied by both Mr. Cohen, who says he has never been to Prague, and the Russian, Oleg Solodukhin.
Who concocted the information in the memos, if it is entirely false or partially so, and with what purpose. Did the British intelligence officer accurately report what he heard? Who gave him the information that, if false, amounts to a very sophisticated fabrication?
What exactly prompted American intelligence officials to pass on a summary of the unvetted claims to Mr. Obama, Mr. Trump and Congress. Officials have said they felt the president-elect should be aware of the memos, which had circulated widely in Washington. But why put the summary in a report going to multiple people in Congress and the executive branch, virtually assuring it would be leaked?
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The only fact we know about this whole situation is that Trump
won the election fair and square. He won the required electoral
college votes like every other President. His first piece of legislation
should be to approve free pacifiers to SLN, Frumious, Thor and all
the other unhinged libs that now refuse to accept our process of freely
[size=”0″]electing the POTUS. The whining and crying from the left is really [/size]
[size=”0″]embarrassing at this point. Stop the whining and crying and get back to cleaning up your worklist. Stop wasting so much time complaining about Trump destroying your privileged lives on this stupid forum…..And if you care so much about the less privileged, stop sending them to collections for your unpaid bills and forcing them into bankruptcy……or are you forced to do that because of government regulations?[/size]-
I think we need to have Lancelot Link, secret chimp investigate this. I bet, it’s Russian propaganda to ruin our country and BuzzFeed and CNN just can’t Handle such details information.
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from the words of the orange guy–he is an asset for Russia
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The only fact we know about this whole situation is that Trump
won the election fair and square. He won the required electoral
college votes like every other President. His first piece of legislation
should be to approve free pacifiers to SLN, Frumious, Thor and all
the other unhinged libs that now refuse to accept our process of freely
[size=”0″]electing the POTUS. The whining and crying from the left is really [/size]
[size=”0″]embarrassing at this point. Stop the whining and crying and get back to cleaning up your worklist. Stop wasting so much time complaining about Trump destroying your privileged lives on this stupid forum…..And if you care so much about the less privileged, stop sending them to collections for your unpaid bills and forcing them into bankruptcy……or are you forced to do that because of government regulations?[/size]We’ll just take yours that you all got when Obama was elected that you’ve been sucking on for 8 years now.
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Expected response. Liberal solution to every problem take, take , take…..
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Frumious et al
You lost, so sorry, you can’t take reality.
The guy isn’t even president and you’re doing what you claimed the idiots did before Obama, “racism” “they hate him” etc.
Ultimate hypocrite losers. The liar in chief went on to fail over and over again, supporting the silly “haters” anyway
You guys are losers, always will be. Keep complaining, it’s not working. You’ll lose more and more. So sorry about that-
I’m enjoying the entertainment, actually. Fires are fun to watch, go ask Nero.
But on to serious stuff.
Neither you or IR is answering my question. Both of you are in healthcare obviously since we are on this forum, so what is the answer to replace? Should be easy with all the expertise you show. How do you think Trump & the GOP is going to make it better and cheaper?
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I am unable to copy and paste in this window but there is a story in “The Irish Times” on the author of the 35 pages of intelligence reports. If you google the paper name and his name, Steele you will get the story.
The title is “Intelligence sources vouch for author of Russia-Trump Dossier”.
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[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-intelligence-chiefs-to-push-back-against-fbi-collusion-probe-after-comey-revealed-its-existence/2017/05/22/394933bc-3f10-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.231c61f292d0]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.231c61f292d0[/link]
[link=http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fworld%2Fnational-security%2Ftrump-asked-intelligence-chiefs-to-push-back-against-fbi-collusion-probe-after-comey-revealed-its-existence%2F2017%2F05%2F22%2F394933bc-3f10-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html%3Ftid%3Da_breakingnews%3Ftid%3Da_breakingnews%26hpid%3Dhp_no-name_no-name%253Apage%252Fbreaking-news-bar][b]WaPo reporting[/b][/link] that after Comey’s public statement that there was an FBI investigation into Trump/Russia, Trump called in the Director of National Intelligence and the NSA and told them to go before the cameras and publicly deny that there is any evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians.
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[link=http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/robert-mueller-russia-investigation-trump-tower-meeting/index.html]http://www.cnn.com/2017/0…wer-meeting/index.html[/link]
Exclusive: Mueller asks WH staff to preserve all documents relating to June 2016 meeting
“As you are aware the Special Counsel’s office is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of Donald Trump. Information concerning the June 2016 meeting between Donald J Trump Jr and Natalia Veselnitskaya is relevant to the investigation.”
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Well according to this Jeffo Sessions might have been more than just expressing pleasantries with the Ruskie Ambassador.
Like everyday this presidency gets stranger and stranger.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-discussed-trump-campaign-related-matters-with-russian-ambassador-us-intelligence-intercepts-show/2017/07/21/3e704692-6e44-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html?utm_term=.0b1dfa2b70a9&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation&wpmk=1]https://www.washingtonpos…tics%252Bnation&wpmk=1[/link]
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[url=http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-spy-chief-clapper-tells-trump-we-didnt-leak-the-russia-dossier-2017-01-12]Clapper briefs Trump on leaked dossier ….. say US Intel agencies didn’t leak it [/url]
Clapper said in a statement that he expressed his dismay to Trump over leaks about the briefing, and said the release of the dossier, a private report compiled at the behest of Trumps political opponents, was not the fault of the U.S. intelligence community, which he said only became aware of it after it had been circulating among the media, members of Congress and congressional aides.
We also discussed the private security company document, Clapper said. I emphasized that this document is not a U.S. Intelligence Community product and that I do not believe the leaks came from within the IC. The IC has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions. However, part of our obligation is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security.
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CNN thought they had a scoop and now they are sulking that Trump called them out on their poor reporting.
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[link=http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/intelligence-sources-vouch-for-author-of-russia-trump-dossier-1.2934648]http://www.irishtimes.com…rump-dossier-1.2934648[/link]
I don’t know the veracity of the paper’s accusations but let’s let it play out & see what happens.-
[link]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427[/link]
This is the best summary of what is publicly available-
You need to read what Clapper said.
1) They found the document credible but not verified
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2) This document did not form the basis of their opinion on Russian intervention in the election on behalf of Trump
“Clapper said that he told Trump that intelligence officials have “not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions.”
[link=http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/james-clapper-statement-profound/2017/01/11/id/768108/]http://www.newsmax.com/He…/2017/01/11/id/768108/[/link]-
true or not–most would agree that due to the behavior this nominee has displayed and continues to display–we all have questions and were more likely to say????
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You need to read what Clapper said.
1) They found the document credible but not verified
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2) This document did not form the basis of their opinion on Russian intervention in the election on behalf of Trump“Clapper said that he told Trump that intelligence officials have “not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions.”
[link=http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/james-clapper-statement-profound/2017/01/11/id/768108/]http://www.newsmax.com/He…/2017/01/11/id/768108/[/link]
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[link=https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/alt-right-trolls-are-trying-to-trick-people-into-thinking-tr?utm_term=.if6mmqgzbG#.clNLL1nkw2]https://www.buzzfeed.com/…if6mmqgzbG#.clNLL1nkw2[/link]
Buzzfeed News report – Alt right trolls are trying to trick people into thinking the Trump dossier is a 4chan prank.-
the minute Trump used the Germophobe defense–in my heart and head I know where there is smoke there is fire
and his I am well aware cameras are on me–like hello Billy Bush tape–camera and voice
reading about Trump’s old friend Roy CohnQuote from Nice Guy
Sorry I can’t copy paste the link,
Buzzfeed News report – Alt right trolls are trying to trick people into thinking the Trump dossier is a 4chan prank.
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[url=http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/13/us/politics/ap-us-intelligence-election-hacking.html] Senate Intelligence Committee to Examine Possible Campaign Links With Russia[/url]
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and note in the Bush tape–Trump did not seem that much of a germaphobe –grab them by the p–does not sound like a germaphobe
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[link=http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/13/us/politics/ap-us-intelligence-election-hacking.html] Senate Intelligence Committee to Examine Possible Campaign Links With Russia[/link]
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Nance an intelligence expert says their field operates on the idea that nothing happens by chance–so Trump saying Russia please find the e-mails/I am an asset for Russia is like if it quacks like a duck–it is a duck
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[link=http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/13/us/politics/ap-us-intelligence-election-hacking.html] Senate Intelligence Committee to Examine Possible Campaign Links With Russia[/link]
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good sign though because anything destroyed now is a felony
Quote from dergon
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/13/us/politics/ap-us-intelligence-election-hacking.html] Senate Intelligence Committee to Examine Possible Campaign Links With Russia[/link]
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I was watching the back and forth between KellyAnn and Anders Cooper.
[link=http://www.someecards.com/news/politics/anderson-cooper-kellyanne-conway-links/]http://www.someecards.com…ellyanne-conway-links/[/link]
I’ve seen some clips of her this week on a few different things and all I can say is that the more she opens her mouth, the more I dislike her. It’s like she’s smuggly wrong.
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You need to read what Clapper said.
1) They found the document credible but not verified
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2) This document did not form the basis of their opinion on Russian intervention in the election on behalf of Trump“Clapper said that he told Trump that intelligence officials have “not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions.”
[link=http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/james-clapper-statement-profound/2017/01/11/id/768108/]http://www.newsmax.com/He…/2017/01/11/id/768108/[/link]You are lying about what DNI clapper said. Here is his statement directly from the DNI website:
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
WASHINGTON, DC 20511January 11, 2017
DNI Clapper Statement on Conversation with President-elect Trump
This evening, I had the opportunity to speak with President-elect Donald Trump to discuss recent media reports about our briefing last Friday. I expressed my profound dismay at the leaks that have been appearing in the press, and we both agreed that they are extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security.
We also discussed the private security company document, which was widely circulated in recent months among the media, members of Congress and Congressional staff even before the IC became aware of it. I emphasized that this document is not a U.S. Intelligence Community product and that I do not believe the leaks came from within the IC. The IC has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions. However, part of our obligation is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security.
President-elect Trump again affirmed his appreciation for all the men and women serving in the Intelligence Community, and I assured him that the IC stands ready to serve his Administration and the American people.
James R. Clapper, Director of National Intelligence
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Dude is a piss loving traitor. Putin has a long track record of video taping politicians and public figures in compromising positions with prostitutes and leveraging it to his advantage, did so as the head of FSB back when Yeltsin was president. Classic FSB technique.
[link=https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/kompromat-trump-dossier/512891/]https://www.theatlantic.c…-trump-dossier/512891/[/link]
In January 1999, Prosecutor General Yury Skuratov was summoned to the Kremlin by then-President Boris Yeltsins chief of staff, who showed him a videotape of a man who looked like Skuratov frolicking in bed with two prostitutes. Then he asked Skuratov to resign, even though the prosecutor was in the middle of investigating Yeltsins administration for taking bribes from a Swiss firm trying to secure lucrative contracts for Kremlin renovations. It was a grainy tape and Skuratov would later say it was fake, but he submitted his resignation nonetheless.
What happened next was one of the most decisive battles in determining who would replace Yeltsin when his second presidential term expired in 2000. Skuratovs resignation had to be confirmed by the Federation Council, the upper chamber of the Russian parliamentback when it had not yet become a Kremlin rubber stamp. The Federation Council balked and asked Skuratov to testify, but the day before he appeared on the floor, RTR TV ran the tape on its evening news, calling the segment Three in a Bed. When the Federation Council continued to resist the Kremlin, and Skuratov tried to go back to work as if nothing happened, the tape was played on TV again, this time on the program of the notorious media hit man Sergei Dorenko. Allowing children to see the tape, Dorenko [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fuZ0QB4RG0]said[/link], would make it harder for parents to raise them patriotically; this was, after all, the prosecutor general of the Russian Federation, not Mick Jagger, who can run around the beach with a naked behind.
The tape is [link=http://www.kasparov.ru/material.php?id=4B5811FDB4E78]rumored[/link] to have been delivered personally to the head of RTR by a man who looked like the head of the FSB, who at the time was none other than Vladimir Putin.
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[url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/17/the-director-of-the-cia-just-went-off-on-donald-trump-it-was-a-long-time-coming/]The director of the CIA just went off on Donald Trump. It was a long time coming.[/url]
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal published Monday night, CIA Director John O. Brennan had finally had it. Brennan said Trump crossed the line by invoking Nazi Germany while talking about the intelligence community having, in Trump’s words, allowed a dossier full of unconfirmed and salacious allegations about him to leak into the public domain.
Brennan didn’t hold back, saying Trump has a right to challenge the intelligence community but not in this manner. Its when there are allegations made about leaking or about dishonesty or a lack of integrity, thats where I think the line is crossed, Brennan said.
He added: [b]Tell the families of those 117 CIA officers who are forever memorialized on our wall of honor that their loved ones who gave their lives were akin to Nazis. Tell the CIA officers who are serving in harms way right now and their families who are worried about them that they are akin to Nazi Germany.[/b] I found that to be very repugnant, and I will forever stand up for the integrity and patriotism of my officers who have done much over the years to sacrifice for their fellow citizens.
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Trump only likes CIA operatives who aren’t captured or killed. Those on the CIA’s wall are losers.
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He added: [b]Tell the families of those 117 CIA officers who are forever memorialized on our wall of honor that their loved ones who gave their lives were akin to Nazis. Tell the CIA officers who are serving in harms way right now and their families who are worried about them that they are akin to Nazi Germany.[/b] I found that to be very repugnant, and I will forever stand up for the integrity and patriotism of my officers who have done much over the years to sacrifice for their fellow citizens.
That’s not what Trump said. Leaking information about someones alledged perverted sexual practices in order to force him to resign was a nazi practice. He did not comment about the work of the CIA at large, just Brennan or his underlings who handed out information about this ‘dossier’ in an attempt to smear the president elect.-
Interesting Mike Flynn Jr spreading stories on propaganda web sites also.
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Journalists have had this information for months.
There is no reason for Trumb to go off half cocked at the intelligence agencies.-
Putin says we got the best ho ho ho
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Prostitution is illegal in Russia but Putin praises them as the best
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Journalists have had this information for months.
There is no reason for Trumb to go off half cocked at the intelligence agencies.
The intelligence agencies including it in a briefing was the excuse that allowed CNN to report on this ‘news’. Prior to the inclusion in the briefing it was just some unsubstantiated garbage floating around the internet, the inclusion in the briefing is what turned it into ‘legitimate news’.
I finally read the ‘dossier’. It reads like this was written in a slavic language and subsequently fed through google translate or babelfish. It starts with the name ‘Company Intelligence Report’. This is supposedly the work-product of a former Mi6 agent, but to anyone reading the thing it is clear that it wasn’t written by a native english speaker. Others have pointed out the factual errors that would be clear to anyone familiar with moscow and the fact that the formatting itself is that of a KGB case file.
There is some kid in bulgaria who is greatly entertained by how his scribble is being handed around as something important.
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Actually not like the Nazis but like the Soviets and the KGB. Like Putin.
And surely you are not suggesting that the FBI and CIA are political just like in Russia? First a campaign of lies to bring down Hillary & now a campaign of lies to bring down Trump. “Intelligence” can’t seem to make up its mind.
BTW, was this the same 14 year old Bulgarian kid who released the DNC hack?
Bad translation does not prove the allegations must be false. At least no more than a Hawaiian birth certificate proves American birth.
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So if it’s probably written in a SLAVIC language and found on the internet….. it’s probably not true
But Derrrrrrrrrr if it’s MERICAN……….. and you find it on a Breibart sidebar……… then by god it’s true
I’m convinced that fw is tony soprano’s mother
God I bet your kids hate you
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So if it’s probably written in a SLAVIC language and found on the internet….. it’s probably not true
What makes it not true are the illogical assertions in the document and the fact that it can’t be the work of the source that supposedly wrote it. There isn’t a janitor at Mi6 that writes memos in chinglish.-
Ummmmmm
Mrs Soprano
If they are talking in Russia with Russian hookers and people…… wouldn’t it be just a little likely that the language would be Slavic
WTF
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If they are talking in Russia with Russian hookers and people…… wouldn’t it be just a little likely that the language would be Slavic
That would make sense if the cover story for this thing was ‘hey, look at what my buddy at FSB sent me’. But no, this is being sold as written by a ‘former Mi6 agent’ who has this security firm with all these ‘global contacts’. Formatting and grammar of this thing make clear that it was written by someone who is a native russian speaker who has been trained by either the KGB or one of the affiliated eastern bloc security services. Either the 35 page ‘dossier’ is not the actual document handed to the FBI or Steele is the laziest, most gullible and leaky spy in the history of the UK.
It is comical if people like you cry about Trump being controlled by the russians yet you use a report produced by a combloc intelligence operative to make your case.-
What’s comical is watching you become aTrump supporter but trying to straddle the issues to a degree that you can become an I told you so critic when he crashes and burns
That’s what Is funny
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What’s comical is watching you become aTrump supporter but trying to straddle the issues to a degree that you can become an I told you so critic when he crashes and burns
I am not a Trump supporter beyond the fact that he happens to be the next president. There is any number of people I would have preferred over him.
But if you say incredibly dumb stuff, I’ll call it dumb stuff.-
Go back and read your posts for the last several months
You are a trumpster…… but you are hedging your bets
Sitting on the fence
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Go back and read your posts for the last several months
You are a trumpster…… but you are hedging your bets
Sitting on the fence
I can’t fix what is wrong with your head.
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What’s comical is watching you become aTrump supporter but trying to straddle the issues to a degree that you can become an I told you so critic when he crashes and burns
I am not a Trump supporter beyond the fact that he happens to be the next president. There is any number of people I would have preferred over him.
But if you say incredibly dumb stuff, I’ll call it dumb stuff.
Yes, your post count is going to continue to rise.
crashes and burns?
you guys are delusional, maybe even deranged
the conspiracy theorists are out, the sky is falling! Wait, they called people names for wanting to look into much more legitimate things from an amateur 8 years ago, and now they do the same thing?
Obama can’t hold Trump’s jock strap, he’ll try, but just like a good Dem when his time is up, he’ll spend the taxpayer’s money without second thought and complain about topics he failed on, over and over again, acting like he ever had any answer
Talk is cheap, but that cheap turd stuff out of Obama’s mouth will get him 100s of thousands from the fawning drones. Their lives won’t change one bit, except that they won’t recognize real policy measures that work by the new guy. It’s really sad, actually.-
Well
We will all get to see in a few days wont we
According to you life should be unicorns and rainbows next week
It’s easier to throw stones than to lead
Trump is good at throwing stones hopefully he will be good at leading
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[url=http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article127231799.html]
FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump[/url][/h1]
The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Departments Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.
Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers.-
pic floating on the internet
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[link=http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article127231799.html]
FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump[/link]The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Departments Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.
Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers.
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“Of the half-dozen current and former officials who confirmed the existence of the investigations, some said they were providing information because they feared the new administration would obstruct their efforts.”
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region®ion=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0]https://www.nytimes.com/2…an-abc-region&_r=0[/link]
It was the coverup that got Nixon.-
Trump has no shame and a very republican congress. He has extreme authority right now.
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a GOP congress that holds him in a bind should he veer off course
uote=deadwing]Trump has no shame and a very republican congress. He has extreme authority right now.
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Anonymous To Trump:-U are going to regret the next 4 years
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“Of the half-dozen current and former officials who confirmed the existence of the investigations, some said they were providing information because they feared the new administration would obstruct their efforts.”
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region®ion=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0]https://www.nytimes.com/2…an-abc-region&_r=0[/link]
It was the coverup that got Nixon.
I predicted to Mrs_Dergon that the thing that will take down Trump won’t be some financial messiness or “emolument”, but it will be his using the power of the White House to block an investigation.-
“In retraction request to CNN, Trump team confirms CNN story”
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/01/18/in-retraction-request-to-cnn-trump-team-confirms-cnn-story/?utm_term=.c162d4007979]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.c162d4007979[/link]-
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“In retraction request to CNN, Trump team confirms CNN story”
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/01/18/in-retraction-request-to-cnn-trump-team-confirms-cnn-story/?utm_term=.c162d4007979]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.c162d4007979[/link]
Dumbass*s.
Methinks this is not the last “Trump administration pressures news outlet to retract story; threatens legal action” story we’ll be reading about.
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You don’t read anything I post, not even humility as I told you how things were for over a year
I never said unicorns and rainbows. We’re going from utterly incompetent to having a chance. Big difference.
Clapper and Brennan are partisan hacks that got repudiated indirectly, just as their boss and appointer was. Gimme a break with this the “CIA director said” garbage. Just like Holder or Loretta Lynch was an impartial Atty General, leader of the DOJ, right? Which are a demonstrable joke, provable by every means of unethical behavior and lies over and over.
Wake up. Also recognize that as I’ve always said, Trump is just attempting to save a sinking ship, but it is too little too late-
Gold 3500$
Dow 12,000
Hahahaha now you are walking back your Trump support
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[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1]
[h1]Memos: CEO of Russia’s state oil company offered Trump adviser, allies a cut of huge deal if sanctions were lifted [/url][/h1]
