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ORIGINAL: Hero of Reason
Interesting Jack.. i noticed you plying your evil religionist trade over on tweb… trying to get some street cred before you brought it here, eh?
Not quite sure what you meant by that.
ORIGINAL: Hero of Reason
I find it interesting your standard of morality here.. and it was questioned even in the ancient greek society when Socrates asked.. and I paraphrase.. of course.. “is it loved by the gods because it is moral.. or is it moral because it is loved by the gods?”..
The question then comes down to the god you worship being a standard of morality and we can do that by looking in what you consider to be your main ‘book of spells”.. oh.. sorry.. your holy book.. I believe you like the Bible if I am correct.
We can look back and see the morals of your moral standard and then accept them as what you as a follower of your god believes should be moral. Since your god believes the killing of innocent babies is moral.. then perhaps so should you. After all.. we have ALL fallen short of god and All deserve death and eternal torment..is that not so? As such since all the little babies haven’t proclaimed Jesus as their lord and savior.. they then deserve hell and that eternal suffering that will be brought upon them by your god.. and this is just and moral .. because whatever god does is moral.
David once peed off god as well and as a punishment for such, god gave his wives to david’s neighbors to rape in the street, puposely so all the people of the town could know david’s wives were being raped for what david has done. The wives of david ..of course.. had done nothing to deserve such treatment but since all god does is moral.. then this is all well and good in Jack’s eyes. Since jack’s moral standard is whatever his god desires it to be.
This would say to me than that morality follows jack’s god’s desires.. since all god does is moral.. if someday god decides it is moral to kill all the firstborn sons of some civilization (re: egypt) then it is moral and just and righteous in Jacks eyes that all these babies be killed and the sooner the better.
Number of posts it took Hero of Reason to revert to anti-religious rants to defend his utopia: 1
The citizens of the United States are forgiving at this time, however, because HOR did attempt to address their concerns, so they will hold off on labeling him an “incompetent fool” for the time being.
ORIGINAL: Hero of Reason
But..in answer to your question.. I would suggest you wouldn’t see a lot of change in the way things are run.. perhaps there would have been no slavery since that was justified using the bible.. and there would be more love and togetherness since gay marriage would be allowed instead of anyone having the right or any say what other consenting adults do. Perhaps a lot of they hypocracy we have now wouldn’t be existing.. you would be able to buy you liquor on Sunday in a lot of places.. people would be treated more like adults than children who must be admonished by pious jerks who believe they have a right to judge anyone else..
as for the “rights” and what a society would look like the Humanists have already set up the basic outline for that.. Here is a copy of their “Bill of Rights”.. you will find it unlike the religionist one where the people have the respect.. no matter who they are.. not the godbeing.
[link=http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html]http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html[/link]
Not that I whole heartedly agree with all of them they do strive to make things fair for ALL .. not just those who believes in the god you do.
The members of Congress and the Supreme Court find your reasoning entirely unconvincing. The Humanists document is based entirely on unscientific claims, beginning with the very first line:
“Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world, …”
What inherent dignity is there in members of the human family? Why do they have more dignity than any other animal? More importantly, why does any life form have “dignity” when it can be clearly demonstrated that these organisms are nothing more than protons, electrons, and neutrons?
