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Womens soccer World Cup
Anyone been following Americas team in womens soccer in the World Cup?
Great team. Again. Americas team. Women showing how soccer is played.
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I saw bits and pieces of the game against Spain …
Fun team to watch-
No one cares. They never really did. More propaganda and spoiled BS artists.
Alex Morgan, get woke, go broke. Thankfully.-
US beats Britain, 2:1
GOUSA!
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Their good, really good. Fun to watch. But again, marred by political comments.
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I watched the gold cup match of Mexico and Haiti last night after having seen the women’s world cup match USA vs England and it was like watching a video on 5x speed
It was actually funny to witness in light of the “pay me” for being something barely anyone wants to watch, when it really comes down to it, apart from it being the “world cup”.
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[link=https://www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/world-cup-2019-the-us-womens-team-wins-and-leaves-the-stage-as-a-new-kind-of-american-role-model]https://www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/world-cup-2019-the-us-womens-team-wins-and-leaves-the-stage-as-a-new-kind-of-american-role-model[/link]
[b]Well done!![/b]
As a group, the members of the national team are brash, idealistic, outspoken, thoughtful, disciplined, aware of their power and willing to use it, confident, and unapologetic. They have both inherited their claim to excellence and earned it, and they are unafraid to acknowledge their position. They are also, of course, women. Some of them are women of color. Some of them are gay. They are all underpaid and underappreciatedcertainly by their international federation, fifa, and arguably by their national one, U.S. Soccer, which they sued on the eve of the tournament. They see themselves as role models and revolutionaries, but they are also something more complicated to describe. They offer a new model on how to be an American citizen, one rooted at once in idealism and pragmatism. (It wasnt enough to be morally good; the players also knew they had to win.) By their existence and their conduct, they offer an alternative to the nationalism of men who claim a monopoly on the meaning of country and flag. I think that I’m particularly and uniquely and very deeply American, Rapinoe [link=https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-womens-world-cup/story/3892059/rapinoe-i-think-im-extremely-american?src=com]said[/link] before the final. If we want to talk about the ideals that we stand for, all the songs and the anthem and sort of what we were founded on, I think I’m extremely American. And shes right: she is.-
And yet, nobody cares.
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They will be getting a ticker-tape parade in NYC this Wednesday in New York Citys Canyon of Heroes!
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/07/nyregion/uswnt-parade-nyc.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/07/nyregion/uswnt-parade-nyc.html[/link]
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Lol.
Care, America. CARE!!-
Trump Backtracks on Inviting World Cup Champs:
Hours after the USA triumphed in the Womens World Cup, President Trump said he had not thought about inviting the team for a visit, but would look at it, according to Voice of America.
Just two weeks ago Trump invited the team to the White House whether they won or lost after chastising co-captain Megan Rapinoe.
However, Rapinoe reiterated to AFP she would not be going: I havent spoken to everyone about it, obviously not myself, not Ali Krieger, and I suspect not many, if any, of the other players would attend the visit.
Meanwhile, Speaker Nancy Pelosi invited the team to the Capitol to celebrate their victory.
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If Trump doesn’t invite McDonalds is gonna lose a major catering event.
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Here’s something they can do:
1. Keep fighting for equal pay. Totally agree! they were great to watch. Keep fighting like you did during the Obama Administration and before. But you better not blame Trump now for your lack of drive to not succeed. It’s not his fault you didn’t get it done in the past.
2. If you’re invited to the WH, don’t go if you chose. Just like not placing your hand over your heart even though the other team players did during the National Anthem. We all understand that being Gay, with a Republican leader means you take no pride in your country and spew hate even though the entire country supports your Physical and Financial efforts to succeed on every ones dime. So… why should we Honor and acknowledge your PRIDE for the week because of a your sexual preference. Who cares? Haven’t you succeeded greatly so far? or is it just the Elitist attitude of ” I want more because I’m a victim and I deserve it”?
Great Team but a few need to just focus on skill sets that are productive. She ain’t gonna be President just an opportunist.-
Besides SJWs, no one cares about women’s athletics (as entertainment, to watch, etc).
I care about them for high schoolers to learn something about life and team building, cooperation and goal achievement.
Next time I need an emetic I’ll watch women’s basketball. About all it is good for.-
What else should we expect from someone afraid of women except to dismiss them.
Womens soccer was played better than the mens. The men did not even qualify.-
Im not a soccer fan but I read where the womens World Cup actually created more revenue than the mens
The mens winners were given over 1 million each but the women were given 250
See how long that continues
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There is a big disparity in pay that is not reflected by results.
[link=https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/uswnt-player-salaries-usa-women-soccer-pay-vs-men-world-cup/qzuufgsku4cf1f1eu9p8uou5y]https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/uswnt-player-salaries-usa-women-soccer-pay-vs-men-world-cup/qzuufgsku4cf1f1eu9p8uou5y[/link]
Despite the pay rise, the USWNT still make drastically less than the men’s team, even though they are far more successful. The USWNT have won three World Cups and four Olympic gold medals. The men’s team haven’t won an Olympic medal in more than a century, were knocked out at the last-16 phase in the 2014 World Cup and failed to even qualify for the 2018 edition in Russia.
And earlier this year, the USWNT team [link=https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/uswnt-players-sue-us-soccer-for-gender-discrimination/l6cy1j1a65cm1uqaval9phk31]filed a lawsuit against U.S. Soccer[/link], seeking better pay for women, who reportedly earned 38 per cent of what their male counterparts make.That lawsuit stipulated that if each team played and won 20 exhibition games in a year, “female WNT players would earn a maximum of $99,000 or $4,950 per game, while similarly situated male MNT players would earn an average of $263,320 or $13,166 per game”.
The lawyers representing the 28 USWNT players and U.S. Soccer have since [link=https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/uswnt-agrees-to-mediation-pay-discrimination-lawsuit-after-world-cup/lymk3dsxu4bp1slwq8fqem0n1]agreed to mediation[/link] outside of court to settle the wage dispute.
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[b][i]There is a big disparity in pay that is not reflected by results. [/i][/b]
I agree with you 100% frumi. They should get more money. They should be paid in proportional to the amount of revenue they take in. Just like a business, your payroll, staff needs, budgets and marketing are based on your revenues. Maybe they should look at the upper management? Are they grossly overpaid? TV contracts and events. Who is creating and expanding the business? Little Girls are going ga ga over this. As a man, I enjoy watching Womans sports. I have an athletic daughter, always supported her. WE… as men, need to support these adventures since many of us have daughters / nieces and Wives that are in athletics. In my mind, the revenue will come when market takes more of this on. We need to expand the market.
What a market.No difference than ARC / Goodwill / Unicef. Greed -
Those with less or no power are always taken advantage of by those with the power, women, children, the poor, etc.
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Regarding political statements, Rapinoe states her main problem with Trump is his messages meant to exclude the majority of Americans.
I agree, Trump is not trying to represent America, only his core supporters.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/09/megan-rapinoe-i-held-up-my-end-bargain-after-back-and-forth-with-trump/]https://www.washingtonpos…-and-forth-with-trump/[/link]
[size=”0″]Later on Tuesday, in an interview with [/size][link=https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1148761137955164161]CNN[/link][size=”0″], Rapinoe was asked what her message to Trump would be, were she to offer it to him directly.[/size]
I think that I would say, Your message is excluding people, replied Rapinoe, [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/05/09/uswnts-megan-rapinoe-becomes-first-openly-gay-woman-pose-si-swimsuit-issue/?utm_term=.506bc837e339]who is openly gay[/link]. “‘Youre excluding me. Youre excluding people that look like me. Youre excluding people of color. Youre excluding, you know, Americans that maybe support you.
I think that we need to have a reckoning with the message that you have, and what youre saying about, Make America great again, she continued, looking at the camera. “I think youre harking back to an era that was not great for everyone. It might have been great for a few people, and maybe America is great for a few people right now, but its not great for enough Americans in this world.
And I think that we have a responsibility, each and every one of us you have an incredible responsibility, as the chief of this country to take care of every single person, and you need to do better for everyone.
A day after the U.S. advanced to the final, [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/03/megan-rapinoe-im-particularly-uniquely-very-deeply-american/?utm_term=.f1f0c5d36b36]Rapinoe responded to some of her critics[/link] by saying she was particularly and uniquely and very deeply American.
If we want to talk about the ideals we stand for, the song and the anthem and what we are founded on, I think I am extremely American, she told reporters.
I think obviously we are very lucky to wear the shirt and to represent America in a way that no team really does, she said on ESPN. Were very lucky, we play all kinds of games all year long, and I think we do an incredible job of representing every American.
Trump is allergic to criticism.
While Trump [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/07/melania-trump-michelle-obama-congratulate-uswnt-world-cup-triumph/?utm_term=.da1aed6d0ad9]joined other politicians in congratulating the USWNT[/link] on their fourth title on social media, he appears to have [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/07/08/trump-appears-backtrack-white-house-invite-uswnt-saying-well-look-that/?tid=magnet]backpedaled on his promise[/link] to invite the team to the White House.
We havent really thought about it, Trump said Sunday, according to [link=https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1147969200201326593]Voice of America[/link]. Well look at that.
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They get paid what their work is worth. I bet the soccer foundation could find a crew to push the ball around for half of what they pay the current crew.
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You obviously dont know much about sports or athletics
Well…… if the soccer foundation could find a crew to push the ball around for half of what the current crew makes and still win world cups while also bringing in more revenue than the more popular mens……. then they would do it
But that probably is not realistic so these woman are eventually going to get better pay…. because they are product is bringing in more money
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Why does fw make me think of Urkel
Hahahaha
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You obviously dont know much about sports or athletics
Well…… if the soccer foundation could find a crew to push the ball around for half of what the current crew makes and still win world cups while also bringing in more revenue than the more popular mens……. then they would do it
But that probably is not realistic so these woman are eventually going to get better pay…. because they are product is bringing in more money
Men’s soccer is a multi billion dollar business. Good players have opportunity to make millions overseas.
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This has nothing to do with playing overseas
This is the US soccer federation
Personally Im no soccer fan
But the women are bringing in more money…… but the federation is paying them much less
And the women since 2015 have been consistently bringing in more revenue
See how long that lasts
That being said soccer for men is slow to take off in the US no matter what anyone says because there is too much competition from other sports
For women there really is not a lot of competition so soccer is exploding for them
Its only a matter of time when the pay discrepancy improves
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Look what happened to tennis in the 70-80s
Pretty much same thing
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This is my charge to everyone. We have to be better. We have to love more, hate less. Weve got to listen more and talk less. Weve got to know that this is everybodys responsibility. Every single person here. Every single person who is not here. Every single person who doesnt want to be here. Every single person who agrees and doesnt agree, its our responsibility to make this world a better place.
… There has been so much contention these last couple of years. Ive been a victim of that. Ive been a perpetrator of that. Our fight with the federation, sorry for some of the things I say. Not all of the things. But its time to come together.”
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This is my charge to everyone. We have to be better. We have to love more, hate less. Weve got to listen more and talk less. Weve got to know that this is everybodys responsibility. Every single person here. Every single person who is not here. Every single person who doesnt want to be here. Every single person who agrees and doesnt agree, its our responsibility to make this world a better place.
… There has been so much contention these last couple of years. Ive been a victim of that. Ive been a perpetrator of that. Our fight with the federation, sorry for some of the things I say. Not all of the things. But its time to come together.”
~ Megan Rapinoe at the USWNT Soccer parade in NYC
I love her diatribe in the quote “There has been so much contention these last couple of years”. Really, your strife has only been in the last 2 years but everything was going honky-doory prior to that? This is why I’m tired of Elitists Victims and pay no attention to their cause. They are manipulators of the media system for only themselves. Why didn’t they bring this to the forefront before Trumps election? Was it not Good media news? Would have it embarrassed the Obama Administration? Again, another “Big Wind; Big Dust; No Rain scenario. Total fake and opportunistic by her.
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So sick of trumpers who are consumed with celebrity and pop culture
Maybe just maybe if Trump wouldnt tweet so much……. once or twice try to stay above fray…… or maybe occasionally avoid pi$$ing matches with anyone who doesnt think he is wonderful
….. maybe then we could have a little better discourse
Holy sheet the president is supposed to lead not be a spoiled 3 year old who beat him fight with everyone
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Its so fng disgusting that people cant enjoy a sporting event without turning it into a 3 yr old girl fight
If you dont stand for the anthem…. we have to gate you and your sport
If you fake it and wrap yourself in the flag then we have to love you
….. even if its boring as sheet to watch a fng car drive 500 laps around a track
Is anyone else tired of the stupid arguing???
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So sick of trumpers who are consumed with celebrity and pop culture
Maybe just maybe if Trump wouldnt tweet so much……. once or twice try to stay above fray…… or maybe occasionally avoid pi$$ing matches with anyone who doesnt think he is wonderful
….. maybe then we could have a little better discourse
Holy sheet the president is supposed to lead not be a spoiled 3 year old who beat him fight with everyone
We are consumed by Celebrity and Pop culture? 90% of Media Celebrities are Lefties, Pop culture is Lefty. The whole industry is Lefty. That Dog don’t hunt. Your just pissed because an older man is calling your sides bluff and making you answer for you years of Hatred, Racism, Murder and failed policies. The left preaches, whines, stands on a soap box about injustices that they prompted are created and does… nothing to improve the outcome of the poor or admit they were wrong. Look at all your gigantic Left Liberal Cities for God’s sake. Shambles and there is no end in sight except to throw more Money (which the left has done so many times) at it.
Tweeting… only smart Liberals should do it. Just like Al inventing the internet. Same attitude, same result = Victims and no progress. -
90% of Media Celebrities are Lefties, Pop culture is Lefty
So dont listen to their music or comedy or go see their movies or whatever
Why so consumed???
Do you secretly desire their approval or affection
Honestly not trying to be a smart arse but I just dont get it
I will give you an example
I totally hate country music …… I honestly dont know any country singers or stars…. I pay zero Attention to them and their political beliefs
Ditto for the Kardashians and these other reality type people
I dont understand the trumpers fascination with celebrity
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…. and I dont tweet or have twitter
Actually the only social media I do is aunt Minnie
….. and frequently I feel weird about myself for spending too much time here
No offense intended AM
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…. oh and I dont like rap or hip hop or whatever the hello they call it either
So I pay no attention to them either
Again I just dont get fascination with those that you hate
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As you words state, you HATE Country but don’t like Rap or Hip Hop. Who portrays as being a Hater based on a racially demographic media? Bad choice of words? Don’t think so.
You are so curious about Trumps fascination with Celebrities but are oblivious to Obamas or Hilary’s so… What is it? Double Standard? Trump can’t have any Celebrities in his circle?
I seek no entertainers approval of acceptance. I am the customer; I pay for their services to perform no matter what their affiliation is. Do the job hired, and not be a stooge for the left and promote their desire to tell everyone how to live while they are well off.
I am a part time professional musician, my whole family are pro’s… Vegas, Nashville, Cruise Ships. I have a far left guitar player in my band that won’t play Ted Nugent songs now because of Ted’s view on Politics. I have countered as well. No Chrissy Hines / Pretenders, NO REM allowed in our repertoire. Stupid huh?
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I hate rap and hip hop worse than I hate country
I actually like some old Johnny Cash atuff
And I do like Ted Nugent
I saw him play great white buffalo and stranglehold live when I was teenager and Im going to see him in Tampa live in a few weeks
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But aside
I think Im getting what you are saying
You like trump because he fights with the people you dont like
Am I right?
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Quote from kpack123
But aside
I think Im getting what you are saying
You like trump because he fights with the people you dont like
Am I right?
Mostly. The emotional ones, the exaggerated ones are the ones I can’t stand. I never hear “I was wrong or I’ve been corrected” Well… Biden did, Heck, I don’t even like it when Trump tells a fish’n story. I want straight facts which I feel the Left has not provided over the Years. What I want in congress, minus the president(s) is… logic and no emotions, Analytics and no emotion, Responsibility for the Job hired with no Drama. They are not getting the Job done. They are taking our Money and Benefits and taking their time. Term Limits and Penalties should apply to their pay. I say this to both sides. If there was a Reincarnated Ross Perot, I’d probably vote for them.
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Fair enough
I can understand that
Dont necessarily think its right but I get it
Kinda like the enemy of my enemy is my friend mentality
Personally I think he is just a lying cheating bad human being a fact that I just cant overlook
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If mea culpas are the issue & why Democrats are hated, when have Republicans been the example to emulate? And to believe Trump is the ideal instrument to point out Democratic hypocrisy??? I mean, honesty & Trump together is a YUGE oxymoron!
Someone is missing something here & I dont think im that blind.
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Trump is for trump
He would lie and cheat anyone or anything if he sensed an advantage
He is schemer with limited knowledge of the history and the world
History will not be kind to him
But he is a master at manipulating the supporters and the media by inciting division and playing on fears
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I think they are entitled to act like rock stars. They are world champions & continued the streak of winning championships and have inspired and are inspiring a lot of women.
Kudos to them all.
[link=https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2019/07/photos-2019-womens-world-cup-champions-victory-ticker-tape-parade/593686/]https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2019/07/photos-2019-womens-world-cup-champions-victory-ticker-tape-parade/593686/[/link] -
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We are consumed by Celebrity and Pop culture? 90% of Media Celebrities are Lefties, Pop culture is Lefty. The whole industry is Lefty. That Dog don’t hunt. Your just pissed because an older man is calling your sides bluff and making you answer for you years of Hatred, Racism, Murder and failed policies. The left preaches, whines, stands on a soap box about injustices that they prompted are created and does… nothing to improve the outcome of the poor or admit they were wrong. Look at all your gigantic Left Liberal Cities for God’s sake. Shambles and there is no end in sight except to throw more Money (which the left has done so many times) at it.
Tweeting… only smart Liberals should do it. Just like Al inventing the internet. Same attitude, same result = Victims and no progress.
Celebrity & pop culture is only for “lefties?”
Are you asleep? You really think Evangelicals and Mormons and any other Right-wing Christians don’t ever, ever engage in celebrity culture? Trump himself is from this celebrity pop culture & your people are his top supporters believing he is a genius for appearing on The Apprentice fer God’s sake! He is a $3 bill B-lister who has always surrounded himself with B-lister celebrities & gangsters! Real Mob people including Russian mobsters.
No improvement for the poor, only whining lefties? Well read your right-wing media fer god’s sake. All of them repeat the same meme about how the poor now have internet, multiple TV’s, cable, cell phones, etc.
But now thanks to Obama they have access to healthcare. That Trump & Republicans want to take away. It was Johnson who created the War on Poverty programs – and it was for the Appalachian WHITE poor, not minorities! These programs have never been supported by Republicans or the right-wing as it’s always the poors’ own faults and it’s a waste of $ according to you all. “The poor will always be with us.” Besides, they have TVs and cell phones now anyway.
As for “left liberal cities that are in shambles, come to New York City. Not perfect by any means but hardly a shambles. I will bring you to many rural communities that are a total shambles however, in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York. How about down South, the little cities not under “liberal control?” Not far from West Palm Beach, FL are addicts on every street who are ripped off for their insurance. It’s a regular industry! How about in all those Red State paradises who are suffering from drug addiction? Start with that lefty-liberal state, West Virginia. Move into Kentucky and Ohio. Let’s keep this about white addicts for perspective. There are more white addicts than minority addicts but it’s the minorities in the cities who get all the right-wingnut coverage. How come Mississippi and Alabama can’t take care of their own?
Pointing fingers at others is a good way to feel superior. But look at the facts, you live in a glass house. And the glass has shattered all over the place leaving shards.
Having a chip on your shoulder about “lefty liberals” is self-defeating.
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This is my charge to everyone. We have to be better. We have to love more, hate less. Weve got to listen more and talk less. Weve got to know that this is everybodys responsibility. Every single person here. Every single person who is not here. Every single person who doesnt want to be here. Every single person who agrees and doesnt agree, its our responsibility to make this world a better place.
… There has been so much contention these last couple of years. Ive been a victim of that. Ive been a perpetrator of that. Our fight with the federation, sorry for some of the things I say. Not all of the things. [b]But its time to come together.” [/b]
~ Megan Rapinoe at the USWNT Soccer parade in NYC
Except with right-wing people.
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What is your definition of right wing?
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This has nothing to do with playing overseas
This is the US soccer federation
It has everything to do with the international market for players. If you are a russian kid who is good at american football or hockey, you have the opportunity to make football or hockey money. If you are a good turf-fairy in the US, you have the opportunity to make money internationally. This is what sets the income levels in the respective sport across borders. Why do curlers dont make the same money as football players ? It’s not fair ! They are doing such a great job at curling, why don’t they get paid millions ? Womens soccer is not mens soccer and mens soccer is not american football. They are just different sports with different income levels.
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This is not a league like the nfl or mlb or the NBA
Its a world tournament once every 4 years
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Quote from kpack123
This is not a league like the nfl or mlb or the NBA
Its a world tournament once every 4 years
Yup, and FIFA pays the prize money based on what they take in. And womens soccer just doesn’t take in much money. The women actually have a better deal than the men. They get a year around salary whether they play or not, the men only get paid on a per-game basis. This is all governed by a collective bargaining agreement that the players representatives negotiated. Buyers remorse I guess. -
Joe Manchin reportedly putting forward legislation to equalize men’s and women’s pay.
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Quote from dergon
Joe Manchin reportedly putting forward legislation to equalize men’s and women’s pay.
What is he going to propose next. A law against gravity ?
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I should have clarified ….
the rest of that sentence should read
… “in order to get federal funding for US soccer”
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FIFA is only part of the equation
Hello if it was the only source of revenue……… the frickin mens team didnt even make the cut while the women totally drove the revenue bus
So Im not sure what point you are trying to make
Bottom line is this will be like womens tennis in the 70-80
They will eventually get a bigger share of their pie
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They will eventually get a bigger share of their pie
Their share is already larger. They want a piece of the mens revenue pie.
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They will eventually get a bigger share of their pie
Their share is already larger. They want a piece of the mens revenue pie.
But what’s new ?
Your low opinion of women is showing, fw.
Unfortunately for you your conclusions are not quite so simple.
Or accurate.
In men’s figure skating the women make more revenue yet the pay is equal. The men’s argument in that case was for “equality” in pay.
From 2016:
[link=https://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/04/06/uswnt-us-soccer-wage-discrimination-revenue-unequal-pay]https://www.si.com/planet…on-revenue-unequal-pay[/link]
U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati said yes, revenue generation should matter in a market economy. U.S. womens players lawyer Jeffrey Kessler said its a hard question to answer. Legally, he said, revenue generation has some relevance. But from the standpoint of equality, Kessler argues that women should be paid the same as the men irrespective of revenues. He cites the same argument used on behalf of men in figure skating, where the women produce more revenue than the men but prize money is distributed equally to do the right thing according to those in charge (SI.com verified Kessler’s facts with figure-skating authorities).
Did the U.S. women generate more revenue than the men while winning the World Cup in 2015? Yes. Is it a fairer apples-to-apples comparison to look at revenues over four-year World Cup cycles with the men? Yes.
U.S. Soccer says the men produced nearly double the revenue of the women over a four-year cycle. But a look at U.S. Soccers financial report shows the gap between the U.S. men and women is much closer when you look at the four years from 2014 to 17.
There’s also the matter of a revealed clause from the USWNT’s 2006 collective bargaining agreement, [link=http://espn.go.com/espnw/voices/article/15131346/why-uswnt-using-fair-pay-clause]published by former U.S. star Julie Foudy this week on ESPN.com[/link]. It was designed to reward the U.S. womens team if their compensation-to-revenues ratio was ever better in a calendar year than that of the U.S. men. The exact wording, per Foudy, was this:
[b][i]”If in any calendar year, the ratio of aggregate compensation of women’s national team players to the aggregate revenue from all women’s national team games (including all games in U.S. Soccer promoted women’s tournaments) is less than the ratio of the aggregate compensation of the men’s national team players compensation to the aggregate revenue from all men’s national team games (including all games in U.S. Soccer promoted men’s tournaments), then U.S. Soccer will make a lump sum payment to the women’s national team player pool to make the ratios equal.”[/i] [/b]
However, since 2016:
[link=https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/19/us-womens-soccer-games-now-generate-more-revenue-than-mens.html]https://www.cnbc.com/2019…revenue-than-mens.html[/link]
[b]U.S. womens soccer games have generated more revenue than U.S. mens games over the past three years.[/b]
[b]Thats according to audited financial statements from the U.S. Soccer Federation (USSF) obtained by [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-womens-soccer-games-out-earned-mens-games-11560765600]The Wall Street Journal[/link]. In 2016, womens games generated $1.9 million more in revenue than mens games. From 2016 to 2018, womens games generated approximately $50.8 million in revenue, compared with $49.9 million for mens games.[/b]
The Journal report notes that the ability of the womens team to generate gate revenues that equals or exceeds the mens team is an important battleground, and central to an ongoing [link=https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/653-us-womens-soccer-complaint/f9367608e2eaf10873f4/optimized/full.pdf#page=1]lawsuit[/link]filed against the USSF by 28 members of the U.S. womens national soccer team in March.
According to the lawsuit, the Womens National Team Players Association (WNTPA) has proposed a revenue-sharing model to test the USSFs market realities theory, describing a proposal that would tie player compensation to revenue generated by the womens national team for USSF.
[b]The mens national team has issued a statement of support for the womens team lawsuit against the USSF and for this revenue-sharing model.[/b]
[b]The United States National Soccer Team Players Association fully supports the efforts of the US Womens National Team Players to achieve equal pay, reads [link=https://ussoccerplayers.com/2019/03/usmnt-statement-on-wnt-players-lawsuit.html]the statement[/link]. Specifically, we are committed to the concept of a revenue-sharing model to address the US Soccer Federations market realities and find a way towards fair compensation.[/b]
Perhaps this is your “law against gravity?”
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No it isnt
Look this is not the premier league or league…. this is the US soccer federation
The women bring in more money
The men not only get paid more they also get a larger share of their revenue than the women
What is so difficult to understand about that?
Again personally I give less than 2 sheets. Im not a soccer fan …… but the women have more than a legitimate gripe
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No it isnt
Look this is not the premier league or league…. this is the US soccer federation
The women bring in more money
The men not only get paid more they also get a larger share of their revenue than the women
What is so difficult to understand about that?
Again personally I give less than 2 sheets. Im not a soccer fan …… but the women have more than a legitimate gripe
Yes, you are a retard. I told you what the facts are, and you just keep lying. You are incorrect on all the points.
Did I mention the US women’s team lost to 14 year old boys? I better make sure my 40 year old semi pro league team that was undefeated gets paid as much as them. We are champions too. Unreal how stupid this shit is. How did you become a doctor, I always wonder — I guess glorified algorithm rule followers use a small part of their brain. -
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Im not a soccer fan but I read where the womens World Cup actually created more revenue than the mens
The mens winners were given over 1 million each but the women were given 250
See how long that continues
Proving again how much of an idiot you are.
Fact, Men’s World Cup brought in 6 BILLION, yes, with a B
Fact, women’s World Cup brought in 130 million. Yes, with an M. If you can’t do math, the men’s world cup brought in 46x the revenue.
No wonder you get so many things wrong. Your starting position is so lazy you don’t even know the facts.
You probably think men can have babies at this point. It’s a wonder you went to medical school.
Also, the men get 7% revenue. The women got 20% of revenue. As usual, the women are overpaid and still whine. You guys are really, really stupid. Propaganda at its finest. Go whine with that piece of dookie Rapinoe -
Another fun fact for the retards
The Women’s National team [b]lost 5-2[/b] to the boys U-15 squad in Dallas.
Yes, [i][b]a bunch of 14 year olds[/b][/i] and younger beat the “greatest women’s soccer team in the world” handily.
I think those 14 year olds are going to complain they don’t get paid while women in a propaganda movement complain, but got whooped by pubescent boys.
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Another fun fact for the retards
The Women’s National team [b]lost 5-2[/b] to the boys U-15 squad in Dallas.
Yes, [i][b]a bunch of 14 year olds[/b][/i] and younger beat the “greatest women’s soccer team in the world” handily.
I think those 14 year olds are going to complain they don’t get paid while women in a propaganda movement complain, but got whooped by pubescent boys.
You can’t fix stupid, kpack and Frumi excel in something, at least. It’s weird how they are so proud of being so ignorant and mentally challenged.
I do recall reading about this. it was a scrimmage and no one took this seriously as a game. It was more of a photo op. Get your selfie with women’s world cup players.
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It’s been repeated over and over again. In Australia, the national squad lost 7-0 to a U-15 boys team.
“No one took it seriously”
This is the kind of idiocy you get from leftists in the face of all evidence.
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What trans person are you talking about. I’m unaware of any on the lady’s national team.
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No one cares about women’s sports except when it is a political narrative, I’m sorry, just observe
WNBA (subsidized guilt, worst product maybe ever for a “professional” league)
Rapinoe narcissist show, it’s been all about anti Trump stuff, after the 15 minutes of fame, maybe she’ll go back to all 27 of the fans at her women’s MLS league games
You want more money? Make the men’s national team. Oh wait, you can’t beat 14 year olds? Ahh, now I know why it’s a big deal.
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Sorry just observe you’re incorrect. I enjoyed watching the women’s team. It’s not political to want the team representing the USA to win. You come off like the person that got picked last for dodgeball in gym class.
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The boy’s real problem, Dan, is that he can’t compete with the girls and he knows it.
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The boy’s real problem, Dan, is that he can’t compete with the girls and he knows it.
Oh yea, I’d have to go back in time to age 14 to … oh yeah, beat the best women’s team “in the world”
As a man approaching middle age, I’ve been better than every single player on that team for my whole life. And still am, if I trained for it.
I should just call myself world champ and complain that I don’t get paid enough for being not fun to watch. But the media circle jerk will throw me a parade with the chairmen they love too. You, Mr. Free shiz of the day, whoever that may be -
“Middle age” going on 15.
In other words, they’d still kick your ass, aged 14 or 15.
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BTW, do a little research & thinking before you speak – I know, it’s difficult.
A few of these women are “approaching” middle age & that’s not age 15. Several are in their 30’s which definitely qualifies as “approaching” much more than your 14 years old age.
[link=https://www.inquirer.com/soccer/uswnt-team-us-soccer-roster-womens-world-cup-2019-20190604.html]https://www.inquirer.com/…cup-2019-20190604.html[/link]
And:
Kazuyoshi Miura is currently the oldest soccer player ever at the age of 50 and it looks like he might break this record again next year as he has [link=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/01/11/kazuyoshi-miura-handed-new-contract-play-50s-yokohama-fc/]signed a one-year extension on his contract with his current team, Yokohama FC[/link]. Miura, who is affectionately called Kazu, started his soccer career in 1986 and rose to fame in the early 1990s, making him Japans first soccer superstar.
He was the first Japanese player to receive the Asian Player of the Year award in 1993, which is presented by the Asian Football Confederation. In early March 2017, [link=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/03/12/50-year-old-kazuyoshi-miura-breaks-stanley-matthews-record-oldest/]Kazu became the oldest professional soccer player to score a competitive goal[/link], scoring the only and winning goal in Yokohama FCs match against Thespakusatsu Gunma.
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[link=https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/452118-womens-world-cup-draws-more-viewers-than-mens-final]Women’s World Cup draws more viewers than men’s final[/link]
U.S. viewership for the Womens World Cup final was more than 20 percent higher than the mens World Cup final in 2018, according to Fox Sports, which aired the match.
Viewership for the final between the U.S. and the Netherlands on Sunday peaked at nearly 20 million viewers, making it the most-watched soccer match on English language television in the U.S. since the womens 2015 final, which the U.S. also won, Fox Sports [link=https://www.foxsports.com/presspass/latest-news/2019/07/08/u-s-victory-delivers-14271000-fox-sports-viewers-fifa-womens-world-cup-france-2019-final]reported[/link].
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452955-inslee-says-hell-ask-soccer-player-megan-rapinoe-to-be-secretary-of-state]Inslee says he’ll ask Megan Rapinoe to be secretary of state[/link]
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/452955-inslee-says-hell-ask-soccer-player-megan-rapinoe-to-be-secretary-of-state]Inslee says he’ll ask Megan Rapinoe to be secretary of state[/link]
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It was a low hanging fruit applause line….said in jest
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Any silly comment is likely to get the women-haters in a snit.
I’ll take Rapinoe of Nugent any day. At least she’s sane. He even looks insane. That cat scratch really did him bad.
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[link=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/megan-rapinoe-new-muhammad-ali/592867/]https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/06/megan-rapinoe-new-muhammad-ali/592867/[/link]
[i]The Atlantic:[/i] [b] Megan Rapinoe is her generation’s Muhammed Ali[/b]
Gather your children in front of the flatscreen and instruct them to fix their eyes on No. 15, the winger with lavender hair. Have them watch as she gallivants down the left flank and flummoxes a defender with a stutter step. Have them listen to her unguarded pregame disquisitions on tactics, Donald Trump, haute couture, and well, every facet of human existence. Tell them that Megan Rapinoe is her generations Muhammad Ali.
Like her pugilistic forerunner, with whom she shares sly humor and irresistible swagger, the star player on the U.S. womens national soccer team has evolved into a hero of resistance. Through her example, Rapinoe has instructed the world on how to play soccer and how to dissent. Her genius is that her political commitments, her public persona, and her playing style are one and the same. In every realm, she is fearlessly open, outrageously joyous, and unabashedly true to herself.
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Muhammad Ali got 5 years in federal prison* and lost his boxing license for sticking to his beliefs. Yeah, that’s exactly the same thing as her giving a couple of interviews.
* overturned by the supreme court on a convenient technicality before he had to serve the sentence.
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shes more like her generations
Tommie Smith and John Carlos
That would be s better analogy
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I’m not sure I like what she did. She should not have said jack and instead ended up getting the off the field attention. It takes away from the team.
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Personally I dont care
Its a fee country
And I really dont know much about soccer
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Personally I dont care
Its a fee country
And I really dont know much about soccer
She can say what she wants but I’m just saying it a team sport. If you’ve ever been on a team in any sport you don’t make it about yourself. I’m just saying she put the spotlight and distractions out there. It made it about her.
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When I was on sports teams we didnt act like that
But today is different times
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When I was on sports teams we didnt act like that
But today is different times
Totally agree with you Kpack. There is no “I” in team. Now days, singling yourself out on a team for a purpose of protest disrespects your team mates, and promotes the person as selfish and narcissistic. What would have happened if one of her team mates performed the same action in public but her agenda / cause or stand was totally opposite? It would be an interesting news day.
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That being said
It really doesnt bother me
Is it stupid and selfish….. yes
But Im not going to stop watching pro football or boycott because some second string jackarse doesnt want to stand for the anthem
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I saw several members of the team celebrating in a “robust” manner. I saw no members who looked like they objected to any degree. To me the team all looked like they participated in the celebration as the team of “I’s.”
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What I dont understand is
Because one person or a few do something that irritates you or you dont agree with……. why the F do you have to demonize and get so damn angry about it
I just dont get that
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Huh? Who is angry? I just have a different opinion and observation about the team’s celebrating. I just don’t see that much difference between their celebrating and footballers’s actions when they get a TD or win.
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No not you
I mean in general
I dont understand why all these people are livid about Colin Kaepernick and this soccer player
Why boycott or stop watching something you like because a few players have a different perspective than you
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[blockquote] There is no “I” in team.
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But there is a “ME” 🙂
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[h3][link=https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/06/sport/australia-womens-football-equal-pay-intl-hnk/index.html]Matildas: Australia’s women footballers get equal pay – CNN[/link][/h3]Australia’s [link=https://cnn.com/2019/06/11/football/sam-kerr-matildas-australia-womens-world-cup-spt-int/index.html]top women soccer players[/link] will now earn the same as their male counterparts after a landmark deal Wednesday that aimed to close the gender pay gap between the country’s national teams.
The women’s [link=https://cnn.com/2019/06/02/football/matildas-naked-calendar-australia-womens-football-womens-world-cup-france-2019-wwc-spt-intl/index.html]Westfield Matildas[/link] and the men’s Caltex Socceroos will also share an equal split of all commercial revenues. Previously, the Socceroos earned a greater share of revenues generated by the team and were paid more to play.
The Matildas will also be allowed to travel business class for international travel, as the men do, and coaching and operational support will be brought to the same standard as the men’s team.
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[link=https://www.axios.com/us-soccer-womens-team-partial-deal-approved-953000bd-622a-4684-9285-262f0428bc0f.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=sports-uswnt]https://www.axios.com/us-…m_content=sports-uswnt[/link]
[h1]U.S. women’s soccer team wins partial deal on equality[/h1]
A federal judge approved a partial agreement between the U.S. Soccer Federation and the women’s national team on unequal working conditions.The approval clears the way for the U.S. Women’s National Team (USWNT) to appeal [link=https://www.axios.com/us-womens-soccer-team-equal-pay-add2840e-f7af-465c-83b6-82877dfbf5fe.html]a ruling[/link] last May against the world champions on equal pay returns.
The deal approved by U.S. District Judge R. Gary Klausner, in the Central District of California, covers equitable working conditions including for the “use of charter flights for travel, venue selection, the number of support staff and hotel accommodations,” [link=https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-usaw/story/4358330/judge-grants-uswnt-unequal-working-conditions-settlement]ESPN notes[/link].
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Something Ill never understand. Do the women draw the sane crowds and $$$ as the mens football? If I recall they were drawing like 28% of what the men World Cup did for example. This was a few years back. So why should the prize money be equal?
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Probably because they dont spend a ton on salaries. Its pay walled now but I found the reference to the 28% draw from the WSJ. Its just about the World Cup. Soccers kind of a bottom tier sport in this country. Neither team should probably be getting paid much.
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Probably because they dont spend a ton on salaries.
It’s sponsorships.
American boys don’t follow men’s soccer…. but American girls follow the USWNT. So sponsorships drive more revenue.
Also, the fact that they consistently go further in tournament play and make it to the finals gives them more televised games.
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I think the obvious answer is to pay the men less. Also if you don’t like you’re $100k+ job playing soccer you can go get a real job.
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Difference in pay for men’s and women’s soccer players is really due to different collective bargaining agreements. In most sports you kind of have to live by these agreements. You can bargain for a better agreement when agreement expires I think. I could be wrong about this but this is what I was told by a college soccer coach.
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[link=https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/453035-secret-procter-gamble-donates-529k-to-help-close-us-womens-soccer]Procter & Gamble donates $529K to help close US women’s soccer team pay gap[/link]
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/557626-senate-democrats-threaten-to-hold-federal-funds-for-world-cup-unless-uswnt]https://thehill.com/homen…world-cup-unless-uswnt[/link]
[b]Senate Democrats threaten to block 2026 World Cup funds unless women’s soccer team get equal pay[/b][/h1]
[link=https://www.manchin.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/goals_act_bill_text.pdf?cb]The bill[/link], dubbed the Give Our Athletes Level Salaries (GOALS) Act, calls for prohibiting the use of funds for the 2026 World Cup unless the United States Soccer Federation provides equitable pay to the members of the United States Womens National Team and the United States Mens National Team.
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The House has passed the [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.commerce.senate.gov%2F2022%2F12%2Fhistoric-win-for-women-s-equality-in-sports]Cantwell-Capito bill[/link] to eliminate pay discrepancies by gender for athletes competing on behalf of the US, after the Senate passed it in November.
POTUS has indicated he will sign.
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Currently, men and women can be compensated differently for representing Team USA in the same sport. For years there have been stories from the womens national teams in many sports being paid consistently less, to womens teams flying in coach to games while mens teams sat in business class and waiting months for medical reimbursements.
The bipartisan S.2333 Equal Pay for Team USA Act requires that all athletes representing the United States in global athletic competitions receive equal compensation and benefits in their sport, regardless of gender. It also will require equal payment for medical care, travel and expenses. The bill applies to 50 different sports national governing bodies, like US Soccer and USA Volleyball, along with the United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee.
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Nice profile in [i]The Nation[/i] as Megan Rapinoe announces her retirement –
[link=https://www.thenation.com/article/society/megan-rapinoe-retirement/]The Megan Rapinoe Era Only Ends When We Stop Fighting Back[/link]
The most important soccer player of her generation is saying goodbye after the 2023 World Cup. But her legacy will persist as long as athletes stand up for those who cant stand up for themselves.[/h2] [img]https://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/megan_rapinoe_kneel_ap_img.jpg[/img]
Rapinoe became widely known as far more than a soccer player in 2016 when she became the first white athlete to take a knee during the national anthem in solidarity with the protests against racism and police violence staged by Colin Kaepernick. Drawing fire away from the San Francisco 49ers quarterback, Rapinoe [link=http://americansoccernow.com/articles/megan-rapinoe-kneels-for-anthem-at-nwsl-match]explained[/link] why she felt the need to act:
[blockquote] Being a gay American, I know what it means to look at the flag and not have it protect all of your liberties. It was something small that I could do and something that I plan to keep doing in the future and hopefully spark some meaningful conversation around it. Its important to have white people stand in support of people of color on this. We dont need to be the leading voice, of course, but standing in support of them is something thats really powerful.
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Two months after Kaepernickand then Rapinoefirst took a knee, Donald Trump was sent to the White House. Instead of retreating into despair, Rapinoe became what she later called, a walking protest against the president. She called him sexist, misogynistic, and racist. Amid the 2019 World Cup, when the US women captured the imagination of the country with ratings that squashed every sport save NFL football, Rapinoe was asked about her team visiting Trump after the tournament, and she replied, [link=https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842834-megan-rapinoe-im-not-going-to-the-f-king-white-house-if-us-win-world-cup]with a hint of annoyance[/link], Im not going to the f*cking White House.
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But the crown jewel of what I am calling the Rapinoe Era is the victory for equal pay in soccer, which women athletes had long fought for. While Rapinoe should be seen as a link in the chain, she was an especially strong one. After her World Cup heroics, she used her newly gained cultural capital as one of the five original plaintiffs in their legal battle. After the victory, Rapinoe [link=https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/u-s-women-s-national-soccer-team-s-24-million-n1289968]told ESPN[/link], Theres no real justice in this other than this never happening again. With the settlement of the working conditions and this settlement, which is contingent upon a CBA that will have equal pay going forward, theres no other way to look at it than just a monumental win for womens sports and womens soccer, in particular. Winning equal pay on such a high-profile stage was historic and was embraced not merely by the soccer world but by the broader labor movement.
Rapinoe, of course, isnt going anywhere. At 38 years old, her journey, in many respects, is just beginning. Thankfully, she brings to that journey a love for life and a passion for social and economic justice. The Rapinoe superpower is that she is restless unless she is turning anger into action. I cant predict the future, but I suspect it will involve people inspiring Rapinoe, and then she will, again, return the favorinspiring many more to be brave and fearless in the face of injustice.
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While Rapinoe should be commended for advocating for equal pay etc she and her significant other, Sue Bird, speak out of both sides of their mouth and are also hurting women athletics. In a recent interview she said she had no issues having a trans athlete play for womens soccer. She also stated she has no problem w a female soccer team member being replaced by a trans player because she sees them as female (how scientific). One must wonder if she was the one replaced if she would still believe that. Bird along w Rapinoe signed a letter concerning womens sports that included a statement on trans athletes.
Bird earlier announced her retirement. While Rapinoe just recently announced hers. Both now saying after their careers are over that males should be allowed to play as females. Essentially what you have is two female athletes that both climbed to the top of the ladder, thanks to Title IX, w their respective careers and then kicked the ladder out from under them once they got to the top.
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