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look below, dergon and dicom represent 95% of posts
frumi and ixrayu one each
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Probably not but if it offends your delicate sensibilities you dont have to be on the forum.
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look below, dergon and dicom represent 95% of posts
frumi and ixrayu one each
we see here the psychosis of the left
While Dergon and Dicom lean left, I don’t consider them off the deep end (which can apply to either side of the political spectrum). I grew up feeling like I was a moderate in a very liberal part of the country. Now my mid-west in-laws consider me leaning left and my far left friends back home consider me leaning right, all very relative and subjective. Regardless things have become kinda boring without Trump and all the surrounding drama (whether it be self-inflected, generated by others etc)-
Tell me about it
I was a republican all my life
Air Force vet
I dislike Donald Trump and I am therefore a flaming deep state liberal
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Quote from Casino Royale
look below, dergon and dicom represent 95% of posts
frumi and ixrayu one each
we see here the psychosis of the left
While Dergon and Dicom lean left, I don’t consider them off the deep end (which can apply to either side of the political spectrum). I grew up feeling like I was a moderate in a very liberal part of the country. Now my mid-west in-laws consider me leaning left and my far left friends back home consider me leaning right, all very relative and subjective. Regardless things have become kinda boring without Trump and all the surrounding drama (whether it be self-inflected, generated by others etc)
I would say that I am much further left than Dan. (Up until Trump Dan was what I considered to be AM/OTs true centrist. Trump just pushed him to the left)
Sure, I am solid lifelong liberal. But I am pretty much dead center of the Democratic party these days and my political opinions certainly are not out of the mainstream (except perhaps on religion and church/state separation … I’m in the “we’d be better off if we could just make all religion go away” camp)
But the fact that I start a lot of thread has nothing to with which direction my politics lie. I have an [i]interest[/i] in politics and I enjoy posting in the political part of Aunt Minnie. It’s too bad that many of the mainstream conservatives here went awol from the Off-Topic forum.
Some just left because they got sick of it. (Dalai etc) Many disappeared in the Trump era, I believe gone because they either didn’t want to be seen as really supporting him and/or they couldn’t handle the cognitive dissonance required to simultaneously defend the administration while appearing to be an intelligent, ethical human being.
Some just went insane during the Obama era and never came back (Alda, RVU).
So now there are a very limited number of reasonable conservative voices in OT with whom you can engage in policy discussion.
The forum is heavily left leaning now…. but that’s because the right leaning thinkers are no longer participating.-
All this hand-wringing about the Left. Let’s face it, the Right has moved very much to the Right since the 1960’s. The Left only looks “lefter” because the middle has been dragged to the Right. Nowadays Nixon and Reagan & both Bushes are considered RINO’s in today’s Republican politics if they were running today on their histories. The beliefs of what used to be fringe right-wingnut groups like the John Birch Society are now mainstream Republican. Now Republicans are forming the “Anglo-Saxon Caucus!” Not exactly a fringe group since these are elected into Congress by their Republican constituents, they are definitely mainstream now.
How many more examples of extremism of the Republican party is required before people wake up?
AOC and friends aren’t radical Communists. They represent policies that some former Republican politicians considered, not some Soviet or Maoist ideals. There is no comparison of AOC to Marjorie Greene who believes Q-Anon fer crissakes! AOC is not unhinged but that accusation and discription for Greene and Gosar, etc is spot-on. And based on that how does one, how SHOULD one describe their constituents’ support of Trump and today’s Republicans’ beliefs like Greene’s and Gosar’s, etc?-
I like to think Im pretty middle of the road. Not a big Trump fan. Do I think everything he did was bad? No. Do I think he is a terrible person, a bad President, and A+ grifter? Yes.
Im fiscally conservative. I think we should strangle a lot of government spending. Im probably socially liberal. I dont care about gay marriage. Im ok with womens choice to a point. Like get that abortion but do it ASAP or not at all.
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[font=”arial,helvetica,sans-serif”][size=”3″] Thank you Republicans. [/size][/font]
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[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] American democracy faces many challenges: New limits on voting rights. The corrosive effect of misinformation. The rise of domestic terrorism. Foreign interference in elections. Efforts to subvert the peaceful transition of power. And making matters worse on all of these issues is a fundamental truth: The two political parties see the other as an enemy. [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] Its an outlook that makes compromise impossible and encourages elected officials to violate norms in pursuit of an agenda or an electoral victory. It turns debates over changing voting laws into existential showdowns. And it undermines the willingness of the loser to accept defeat an essential requirement of a democracy. [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] Sectarianism, in turn, instantly evokes an additional set of very different cautionary tales: Ireland, the Middle East and South Asia, regions where religious sectarianism led to dysfunctional government, violence, insurgency, civil war and even disunion or partition. [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] But the two parties have not only become more ideologically polarized they have simultaneously sorted along racial, religious, educational, generational and geographic lines. Partisanship has become a mega-identity, in the words of the political scientist Lilliana Mason, representing both [b][i]a division over policy and a broader clash between white, Christian conservatives and a liberal, multiracial, secular elite.[/i][/b] [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] The conservative outrage over the purported canceling of Dr. Seuss is a telling marker of how intergroup conflict has supplanted old-fashioned policy debate. Culture war politics used to be synonymous with a fight over social issues, like abortion or gun policy, where government played a central role. [i]The Dr. Seuss controversy had no policy implications.[/i] [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] A [link=https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2021/03/10070433/210332_crosstabs_POLITICO_RVs_v1.pdf]Morning Consult/Politico poll[/link] conducted in March found that Republicans had heard more about the Dr. Seuss issue than they had heard about the $1.9 trillion stimulus package [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] Sectarianism has been so powerful among Republicans in part because they believe theyre at risk of being consigned to minority status. The party has lost the popular vote in seven of the last eight presidential elections, and conservatives fear that demographic changes promise to further erode their support. And while defeat is part of the game in democracy, it is a lot harder to accept in a sectarian society. [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] [i]But changes in the racial and cultural makeup of the country leave conservatives feeling far more vulnerable than Republican electoral competitiveness alone would suggest.[/i] [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] [i]The sense that the country is changing heightens Republican concerns. In recent days, the Fox News host Tucker Carlson embraced the conspiracy theory that the Democratic Party was trying to trying to replace the current electorate with new voters from the third world.[/i] Far-right extremists in the House are looking to create an [link=https://punchbowl.news/wp-content/uploads/America-First-Caucus-Policy-Platform-FINAL-2.pdf]America First Caucus[/link] that calls for common respect for uniquely Anglo-Saxon political traditions and an infrastructure that befits the progeny of European architecture. [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] That includes the more ominous steps. [i]In December, Rush Limbaugh said he thought conservatives were trending toward secession, as there cannot be a peaceful coexistence between liberals and conservatives.[/i] One-third of Republicans say they would support secession in a[link=http://brightlinewatch.org/american-democracy-at-the-start-of-the-biden-presidency/] recent poll[/link], along with one-fifth of Democrats. [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] [b][i]One-third of Americans believe that violence could be justified to achieve political objectives[/i][/b]. The violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 suggests that the risks of sustained political violence or even insurgency cant be discounted. [/size][/font]
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[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″][b]Insofar as politicians are pursuing unpopular policies, they are incentivized to destroy the idea of objectivity altogether, undermining the reputation of fact-checkers and mobilizing sectarian loyalists to believe alternative facts.[/b] [/size][/font]
[font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″] Scholars have long argued that a shared threat can bring people together. But such threats may do the opposite when sectarianism is extreme. COVID-19 offered a test case (SM). By the summer of 2020, 77% of Americans believed that the nation had grown more divided since the pandemic arrived that winter. [/size][/font][font=”georgia,palatino”][size=”3″]
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What drove me away from the Republican Party is their stance on education and science
They absolutely hate you if you are educated
They deny science
I cant have any association with that type of party or people
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