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  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 3, 2021 at 4:01 am

    [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/575046-biden-signs-30-day-extension-of-highway-funding-into-law]Biden signs 30-day extension of highway funding into law[/link]
     
     
    That gets us to Oct 31 to pass bipartisan infrastructure. Looks like full court press to get the a reconciliation that progressives and Manchinema can both support is on.
     
     

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      October 3, 2021 at 6:20 am

      Day care is a major problem, for employees as well as parents. I know a number of people who work and who require a decent portion of their paycheck go to day care, it’s not exactly cheap. The median annual household income is still around $65k, a very long way from a 6 figure income allowing day care to be affordable. And many who elect to stay home & be unemployed for just that reason, they can’t afford day care. And yet on the other end, I’ve always wondered how in heck the day care workers can afford to accept their low pay, they are almost paying for the privilege of caring for children.
       
      Some employers, like my daughter-in-law’s provide help with day care which is good but a couple of problems with that is, like their employees, not every employer can afford such perks. And the 2nd problem is that that perk, like healthcare insurance, is attached to the employer and employment.
       
      [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/09/19/childcare-workers-quit/]https://www.washingtonpos…hildcare-workers-quit/[/link]

      Child care is a textbook example of a broken market, said Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, a mother herself. She pointed out that families spend, on average, 13 percent of their income on child care for young kids, yet day care workers earn so little they rank in the bottom 2 percent of all professions.
       
      The pay is absolute crap for whats required for the position, said Tanzie Roberts, who quit in June. I cant afford to live on my own and work the child-care jobs that I am qualified for.

       

      Nearly 1.6 million moms of children under 17 are still missing from the labor force. They dropped out during the pandemic to care for children and [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/08/06/delta-variant-moms/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10]have not been able to return to work[/link] as the school and day care situation remains chaotic,[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/16/covid-under-12-parents-vaccine/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10]especially for unvaccinated children under the age of 12[/link]. There are still covid outbreaks occurring at schools, and some[b] [/b]child-care centers and after-school programs remain closed or they are accepting fewer children.
       
      The numbers are staggering: The child-care services industry is still down 126,700 workers more than a 10 percent decline from pre-pandemic levels, Labor Department data shows. While many industries complain they cant find enough workers, the hiring situation is more dire in child-care than in restaurants right now.
       

      Centers that serve working-class families or those[b] [/b]in rural areas are especially in danger of closing because directors say they cant raise costs.
       

      We dont have our toddler room open right now. Even the infant room isnt currently full because we dont have enough staff, said Sky Purdin, director of development at Jasmin Child Care and Preschool in Fargo, N.D.,[b] [/b]which serves low-income families. We cant match Walmart offering $15 or up. We are a small child-care center, and we are not able to provide benefits. People are going to jobs that have benefits.

       

       
       
       

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        October 3, 2021 at 6:25 am

        Most telling is this:

        Biden and top Democrats in Congress want to [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/09/08/congress-democrats-childcare-prekindergarten/?itid=lk_inline_manual_49]spend about $450[b] [/b]billion on child care[/link] as part of a sweeping $3.5 trillion bill, which would be the largest ever investment in federally backed child-care programs. The legislation would reduce child-care costs for low- and middle-income families and[b] [/b]offer higher wages to caregivers, while providing free prekindergarten to all 3- and 4-year-olds.
         

        Republicans and some moderate Democrats, such as[b] [/b]Sen. Joe Manchin III from West Virginia,[b] [/b]are balking at the high price of the overall bill. They want to see a smaller package, in which aid is more targeted to those most in need. [b]Its not the federal governments responsibility to educate all our children, Manchin told[link=https://wvmetronews.com/2021/05/02/senators-assess-price-policies-of-bidens-1-8-trillion-education-and-child-care-proposal/]reporters from his state [/link]in May.[/b]

         

        The Federal government has no role in educating ALL of our children?
         
        Good thing public education was established 2 centuries ago. Today it would be impossible. The very idea of the Socialism for educating our children???
         
        If that makes me a Socialist, I will wear that accusation proudly. Kids are the future.

        • clickpenguin_460

          Member
          October 3, 2021 at 6:37 am

          Well considering the government-established school system is terrible at doing the educating, maybe we should re-think those, no?
           
          Perhaps some reform? Standards? Choices for parents?
           
          Or just keep pumping money into a failed system and hey, let’s go ahead and expand the failed system to include 3 to 5 year olds so we can fail them too.  I’m sure it won’t be a waste of money at all.
           
           

          • satyanar

            Member
            October 3, 2021 at 7:03 am

            dergon I figured you would be surprised when I said progressives had enough. I actually considered bolding MY to make the point clear. Maybe the problem is in how I am defining them.

            What it comes down to is the continued hopes to link infrastructure and the reconciliation plan. Now she has Biden pushing her to do that. I can tell you one thing for sure. Her family member that told me this summer they were disappointed because Biden is not acting as the moderate he assured his conservative friends he would be, is not happy.

            She has definitely lost touch with the 28 moderate Democrats in the Problem Solvers caucus.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              October 3, 2021 at 7:06 am

              I think Biden is *much* better served politically by getting both bills passed rather than just the bipartisan infrastructure bill.
               
              The vast majority of voters don’t know about the sausage being made and don’t care.  But the stuff in the reconciliation bill is broadly popular and voters will like it.
               
               

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            October 3, 2021 at 7:24 am

            Quote from Cubsfan10

            Well considering the government-established school system is terrible at doing the educating, maybe we should re-think those, no?

            Perhaps some reform? Standards? Choices for parents?

            Or just keep pumping money into a failed system and hey, let’s go ahead and expand the failed system to include 3 to 5 year olds so we can fail them too.  I’m sure it won’t be a waste of money at all.

            Failed? Yes to some. But let’s consider that the majority of responsibility for education is on the states, not the Federal government. So if failure is true it is on the shoulders of the states. And when you consider the quality of education between states, you can rather easily see which states value literacy and education. Massachusetts is at the top while Mississippi is at the bottom. Why is that? Perhaps money invested in schooling is a major factor?
             
            So you can’t exactly blame the Feds for a “failed” public education system when the states themselves seem to be sinking education. Recall for a moment that schools are almost unanimously paid for by local taxes, not Federal school taxes.
             
            Then again, what about teacher pay? Like Day Care, what is your expectation when so many schools systems pay so little? How about we elect to pay physicians the identical pay as teachers get and determine healthcare spending, including physician incomes based on local taxes alone as teachers’ salaries are tied?
             
            Somehow I do not think you would support such an idea? And which then begs the question, why not?
             
            There are a lot of things to improve in education, especially curriculum. Starting with real history and civics. And rote memorization and teaching “for the test.”

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            October 3, 2021 at 7:45 am

            Quote from Cubsfan10

            Or just keep pumping money into a failed system and hey, let’s go ahead and expand the failed system to include 3 to 5 year olds so we can fail them too.  I’m sure it won’t be a waste of money at all.

            And 1 more thing – PRIORITIES.
             
            It’s one thing for the Feds to provide funds for education, it’s another for the states to allocate those funds actually to education. 
             
            Consider Arkansas and Texas allocating Federal money provided for COVID relief reallocating said funds to other things like prisons and the border wall.
             
            [link=https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/prisons-border-wall-how-gop-is-looking-to-use-covid-money/]https://www.durangoherald…ng-to-use-covid-money/[/link]
             

            When Democrats passed President Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion coronavirus relief package, Republicans called it liberal pet projects disguised as pandemic aid.
             
            But now that Republican governors and local leaders have the money in hand, they are using it for things on their wish lists, too.
             
            Alabama lawmakers are advancing a plan to use $400 million of the state’s share toward building prisons in what Gov. Kay Ivey says is a great deal for taxpayers. In Texas, a Republican-led county is sending deputies to assist police along the U.S.-Mexico border and pledged to help Gov. Greg Abbott revive former President Donald Trump’s plans for a border wall.
            In other places, the money has been used to score political points or as leverage in partisan fights over COVID-19 precautions.
             
            In Wyoming, a Republican legislative leader suggested the money could be used to pay the federal fines of businesses that defy Biden’s vaccine mandate.
             

             
             

            • btomba_77

              Member
              October 3, 2021 at 8:34 am

              At this point in the ACA debate the bill was already way under water. Death panels and socialized medicine and fear of people losing their providers had it at some like 30% approval (similar to the Trump tax cuts and, ironically, the ACA GOP repeal efforts)

              As of now the only significant attack on reconciliation is debt, not on individual provisions in the bill.

              And if the last 40 years have proved anything its that Americans dont give a Sh*t about the debt

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                October 3, 2021 at 9:22 am

                True about debt.
                 
                Cheney’s remark about Reagan proving deficits don’t matter is very true. And considering that a sizable portion of Americans were born after Reagan proved deficits don’t matter makes it mainstream for them since before Reagan the deficit was actually being paid down. The single exception during that 40 years was 2 years in Clinton’s administration where $140 billion was paid down, the largest pay down ever. 
                 
                No, to most Americans now increasing debt is mainstream.

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    October 3, 2021 at 7:27 am

    Quote from dergon

    I think Biden is *much* better served politically by getting both bills passed rather than just the bipartisan infrastructure bill.

    The vast majority of voters don’t know about the sausage being made and don’t care.  But the stuff in the reconciliation bill is broadly popular and voters will like it.

    And assuming both do get passed, I have no doubt they would be popular. But the caveat is that while the ACA is “popular” (even as “Obamacare” is not in some circles) the Democrats allowed the public to be spoon fed too much propaganda about how the ACA was evil for too many years. They can’t continue to shoot themselves in the feet by not attending to public education about the things in the bills.

    • satyanar

      Member
      October 3, 2021 at 7:30 am

      Maybe politically savvy but he has to be careful not to be labeled progressive. Even members of the Pelosi clan are wary of that.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 4, 2021 at 12:01 pm

    [b]Legislative Process Doesnt Matter In the End[/b]  
     

    [link=https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/how-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the]Jonathan Last[/link] points out that if the infrastructure and budget reconciliation legislation pending in Congress passes, none of the messiness will turn out to matter because its process. And voters do not care about process. Ever.
    Only two things will matter to voters:
    [ul][*]Did the legislation pass?[*]Can they be convinced after the fact that the legislation made their own lives better in some tangible way? [/ul] Everything else is moot.

     

    • satyanar

      Member
      October 4, 2021 at 12:14 pm

      Everybody please read dergon’s linked post. It might be the best example of how I see this process and suggest people relieve their suffering. Notice the title of point 1.
       
      [h2]Getting to Zen[/h2]  
       
      [link=https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/how-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the]How to Stop Worrying and Love the Infrastructure Disaster – by Jonathan V. Last – The Triad (thebulwark.com)[/link]
       
      Everything so far is political wrangling. Everything will get sorted out. The infrastructure bill will get passed because there is bi-partisan support. There will be some amount of of money but nothing like the $3.5T in the original reconciliation bill. Those two things are popular enough to feel like a win win.
       
      I would have changed my name back for this post but I promised I’m not trying to confuse anyone. Having fun is not allowed in this serious place! 😉
       
       

      • clickpenguin_460

        Member
        October 4, 2021 at 2:58 pm

        1 dollar is too much new spending.

        Use the leftover covid money for roads and bridges and move onto something else.

        The US didnt become the greatest nation with government programs and social welfare.

        If passed, the reconciliation bill will be the end of a successful and dynamic US. It will usher in a future of stagnation and decline.

        • satyanar

          Member
          October 4, 2021 at 3:04 pm

          Quote from Cubsfan10

          1 dollar is too much new spending.

          Use the leftover covid money for roads and bridges and move onto something else.

          The US didnt become the greatest nation with government programs and social welfare.

          If passed, the reconciliation bill will be the end of a successful and dynamic US. It will usher in a future of stagnation and decline.

           
          Perhaps (not saying I agree with CF) but it is almost a political certainty at some level. Better get some Zen. There is a lot of suffering to be done without it.
           

          • satyanar

            Member
            October 4, 2021 at 3:13 pm

            And CF, you realize who you have to thank for that situation? That’s right, DJT who single handedly energized the democrats enough to win senate seats in GA.

          • clickpenguin_460

            Member
            October 4, 2021 at 5:29 pm

            There has been nothing but suffering at the hands of the government since the new deal.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              October 4, 2021 at 6:16 pm

              Quote from Cubsfan10

              There has been nothing but suffering at the hands of the government since the new deal.

              Quote from Cubsfan10

              Actually probably since the introduction of the income tax.

              [img]https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/memepediadankmemes/images/0/01/297.jpg[/img]

              • btomba_77

                Member
                October 5, 2021 at 4:39 am

                [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/opinion/sinema-kyrsten.html]Michelle Goldberg[/link]: In 2003, Joe Lieberman, at the time one of the worst Democratic senators, traveled to Arizona to campaign for his partys presidential nomination and was regularly greeted by antiwar demonstrators. Hes a shame to Democrats, said the organizer of a protest outside a Tucson hotel, a left-wing social worker named Kyrsten Sinema. I dont even know why hes running. He seems to want to get Republicans voting for him what kind of strategy is that?

  • clickpenguin_460

    Member
    October 4, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    Actually probably since the introduction of the income tax.

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      October 4, 2021 at 5:30 pm

      Oh and you’re right. Trump sucks.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 6, 2021 at 4:48 am

    Manchin counters with somewhere between $1.9T and $2.2T

    movement [image]https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif[/image]

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      October 6, 2021 at 8:08 am

      I mostly thing the death nail is Kristen Cinnabon.  She’s in it for herself.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 22, 2021 at 3:58 am

    [b]White House Pushing for Two Votes Next Week[/b][/h1]  
     
     
     
    [link=https://email.punchbowl.news/t/ViewEmail/t/70A3A4F823BB311A2540EF23F30FEDED/F0FBF4A26141BC72E89F0E32AAFB68BF]Punchbowl News[/link]: Yes, you read that right. The White House really wants a vote on reconciliation and infrastructure next week. This would give President Joe Biden and Democrats two legislative wins desperately needed wins right before he heads to Europe. House passage of the infrastructure bill would also give Democrat Terry McAuliffe a boost in a tight gubernatorial fight in Virginia that has political repercussions far beyond the confines of the Old Dominion.
     
    Is it possible? Yes, its been done before. Is it likely? Ahhh, count us as not only skeptical, but very skeptical. We can see an infrastructure vote because of the looming Oct. 31 highway funding deadline. But both seems very difficult.
     
    We do expect a serious discussion today between Biden, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer over this hurried timetable.

     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      October 22, 2021 at 7:34 am

      There was a poll I was reading showing his approval rating going to high 50% if they actually get something done.  Partly he’s tanked because nothing is being delivered even though they control the exec and legislative branches.
       
      What I really don’t get is that they don’t want to eliminate the filibuster.  If the shoe was on the other foot Mitch McConnel would wipe his rear end with the filibuster.    

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        October 22, 2021 at 7:41 am

        Mitch is not worried about Democrats using the filibuster to block Republican proposals because they have no proposals. Other than tax cuts, what is on their plates? Checking your birth-sex as you enter the bathroom? Their plans are to block things Democrats want to do. That’s all.
         
        Mitch knows the filibuster is a weapon for Republicans to use to block Democrats because Republicans have no plans. This is not the 1980’s anymore where Democrats were viewed as the tired Party with no plans for the future, it is the GOP with no plans. It is not “Morning in America” anymore to Repubicans, it is Twilight. The only plans Republicans have is to select the voters who will support them and block the voters who will not vote for their candidates.
         
        Looks like the filibuster is slowly dying. This ain’t [i]Mr. Smith Goes To Washington[/i] anymore.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        October 22, 2021 at 7:57 am

        Quote from DICOM_Dan

        There was a poll I was reading showing his approval rating going to high 50% if they actually get something done.  Partly he’s tanked because nothing is being delivered even though they control the exec and legislative branches.

        What I really don’t get is that they don’t want to eliminate the filibuster.  If the shoe was on the other foot Mitch McConnel would wipe his rear end with the filibuster.    

         
        Yep.   Getting both bills I think would go a long way to show the AMerican people “look, we can govern and get things done.”
         
         

        Quote from Frumious

        Mitch is not worried about Democrats using the filibuster to block Republican proposals because they have no proposals. Other than tax cuts, what is on their plates? Checking your birth-sex as you enter the bathroom? Their plans are to block things Democrats want to do. That’s all.

        Mitch knows the filibuster is a weapon for Republicans to use to block Democrats because Republicans have no plans. This is not the 1980’s anymore where Democrats were viewed as the tired Party with no plans for the future, it is the GOP with no plans. It is not “Morning in America” anymore to Repubicans, it is Twilight. The only plans Republicans have is to select the voters who will support them and block the voters who will not vote for their candidates.

        Looks like the filibuster is slowly dying. This ain’t [i]Mr. Smith Goes To Washington[/i] anymore.

         
        Not dying fast enough.
         
        And yes, I’ve said it before that I think Democrats disproportionately advantaged by nixing filibuster for that reason.  Most of what the GOP wants to do can be done in reconciliation (5 votes) and judges (50 votes.)
         
        Especially if the Dems can cram some new states it would be ugly without filibuster, but I think net advantage D

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 25, 2021 at 3:15 am

    [h2][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/578192-democrats-ready-to-put-a-wrap-on-dragged-out-talks]Democrats ready to put a wrap on dragged-out talks[/link][/h2]

    The push to wrap things up quickly comes as months of haggling has led to pent-up frustrations that have dominated headlines and conversations around Capitol Hill. Democrats missed a self-imposed deadline of working out a framework by Friday, though talks continued into the weekend. 
     
    Even once Democrats lock in a framework, theyll likely still have days of drafting and ironing out details. But, after days of patience wearing increasingly thin, lawmakers are eager to take the first step and show that they and Biden can deliver on the massive spending package. 
     

    Getting a framework would let the party pivot more fully to selling their prized measure to voters ahead of the critical elections.
    [/QUOTE]
       _________
     
     
    [h1][b]Manchin Agreeable to Wealth Tax[/b][/h1]  
    Pivotal Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin appears to be on board with White House proposals for new taxes on billionaires and certain corporations to help pay for President Joe Bidens scaled-back social services and climate change package, the [link=https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-bills-delaware-nancy-pelosi-132c737a5a2fb5ea1931df2344f55567]AP[/link] reports.
     
    [link=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-taxes-billionaire-idUSKBN2HF0AU]Reuters[/link]: With corporate tax off table, U.S. Democrats turn to billionaires to fund spending bill.

    (Honestly, I really dislike corporate taxes as a policy to get revenue.   I’m in the “lower the corporate rate to make the US more competitive and progressively tax the people who benefit from the corporate profits” camp)
     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      October 25, 2021 at 9:12 am

      My biggest bone would be that we have for profit corps that are paying 0 tax.   It should never be 0.  I’d even like to see stricter standards on non-profits.  

      • btomba_77

        Member
        October 26, 2021 at 3:35 am

        [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/us/politics/biden-democrats-reconciliation-bill.html]New York Times[/link]: Negotiators were closing in on an agreement that could spend around $1.75 trillion over 10 years, half the size of the blueprint Democrats approved earlier this year, as they haggled with centrist holdouts in their party who are pressing to curtail the size of the bill
         
        But a final deal remained elusive amid disputes over the details of potential Medicare and Medicaid expansions, a new paid family and medical leave program, programs to combat climate change and a proposal to lower the cost of prescription drugs. Top Democrats were also toiling to nudge the price tag up to $2 trillion, still far below the $3.5 trillion level they laid out in their budget plan.
         
        [link=https://email.punchbowl.news/t/ViewEmail/t/7D00C5D04CB0EA562540EF23F30FEDED/88A6D1F89BCE2E934E9AB52EF5D51DA2]Punchbowl News[/link]: Pelosi and her team are still telling House Democrats there could be a vote on both the reconciliation package and bipartisan infrastructure bill this week. Yes, you read that right. We dont quite understand how the leadership can pull this off nor do we expect them to but its fascinating that their private posture matches their public statements.
         

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 26, 2021 at 3:32 pm

    Quote from DICOM_Dan

    My biggest bone would be that we have for profit corps that are paying 0 tax.   It should never be 0.  I’d even like to see stricter standards on non-profits.  

    here ya’ go ….
     
    [h1][b]Democrats Propose Corporate Minimum Tax as Pay-for Instead of Corporate Rate Hike[/b][/h1]  
    Senate Democrats detailed a 15% minimum tax on large companies income on Tuesday, refreshing an earlier revenue-raising proposal as they try to generate enough money to pay for President Bidens social-spending and climate-change agenda, the [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/corporate-minimum-tax-resurfaces-as-democrats-hunt-for-money-11635280425?mod=djemalertNEWS]Wall Street Journal[/link] reports.
     
    The plan is designed to raise money from companies without raising the 21% corporate income-tax rate.
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 26, 2021 at 4:30 pm

    [b]Sinema Backs Minimum Corporate Tax[/b][/h1]  
    Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) voiced support for a proposal for a minimum tax on corporate profits as her party weighs the measure as a potential revenue raiser for its sweeping social spending plan, [link=https://thehill.com/policy/finance/budget/578590-sinema-backs-corporate-minimum-tax-proposal]The Hill[/link] reports.

     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      October 26, 2021 at 5:32 pm

      She wore a Canadian tuxedo to preside over the senate today. That video caught a lot of attention.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 27, 2021 at 4:47 am

    We are just missing two things: What exactly is going to be in the bill and how were going to pay for it? Other than that, we are good to go.
     
    Rep. Brendan Boyle (D-PA), quoted by [link=https://twitter.com/LauraLitvan/status/1453081237439066117]Bloomberg[/link].
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 28, 2021 at 4:29 am

    [h1][b]A Hint on What the White House Wants[/b][/h1] White House chief of staff Ron Klein retweeted this tweet from Eric Levitz:

    [link=https://twitter.com/EricLevitz/status/1453489603739013123?s=20]https://twitter.com/EricL…53489603739013123?s=20[/link]

    A bill that did nothing but establish universal pre-k, $500 billion in climate funding, and a permanent child allowance kinda seems preferable to the emerging grab-bag of ill-designed, underfunded programs that are all set to self-destruct during the second Trump administration.
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 28, 2021 at 7:40 am

    Framework agreement reached… up on WH website now

    [link=https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1453423000682958849]https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/10/28/president-biden-announces-the-build-back-better-framework/

    [/link]Looks like just shy of $2T

    [h1][b]President Biden Announces the Build Back Better Framework[/b][/h1]
    Joe Biden believes that theres no greater economic engine in the world than the hard work and ingenuity of the American people. But for too long, the economy has worked great for those at the top, while working families continually get squeezed. President Biden promised to rebuild the backbone of the country the middle class so that this time everyone comes along. He also campaigned on a promise to make government work for working people again.

    Today, the President is delivering on these promises[b]. After hearing input from all sides and negotiating in good faith with Senators Manchin and Sinema, Congressional Leadership, and a broad swath of Members of Congress, President Biden is announcing a framework for the Build Back Better Act. [/b]President Biden is confident this is a framework that can pass both houses of Congress, and he looks forward to signing it into law. He calls on Congress to take up this historic bill in addition to the Bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act as quickly as possible.

    This framework will guide the drafting of legislative language. When enacted, this framework will set the United States on course to meet its climate goals, create millions of good-paying jobs, enable more Americans to join and remain in the labor force, and grow our economy from the bottom up and the middle out. Specifically, the Build Back Better Act will be:
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      October 28, 2021 at 7:44 am

      Politico reporting Pelosi whipping to pass hard infrastructure bill before Biden lands in Rome.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 31, 2021 at 3:30 am

    [h1][b]House Aims to Pass Both Bills on Tuesday[/b][/h1]  
    House Democratic leaders are telling lawmakers they plan to pass both a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill and a $1.75 trillion social spending bill as early as Tuesday, [link=https://www.axios.com/house-aims-pass-infrastructure-social-spending-bill-tuesday-6d41945b-9bb6-4538-8fc6-7b527aec8591.html]Axios[/link] reports.
     
    Its a very ambitious timeline, but leadership is eager to deliver a win to President Biden while he meets with world leaders in Europe.
     
    This would mark dramatic progress since the president left the country on Thursday with only a deal on a framework for his massive social spending bill, but no votes.
    [link=https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democrats-hope-for-house-budget-votes-as-soon-as-tuesday]Associated Press[/link]: It remained unclear, though, whether the ambitious timetable could be met.
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      November 6, 2021 at 3:41 am

      [b]House passes Bipartisan Infrastructure bill [/b]
       
       228 to 206.
      The bill, which passed the Senate in August, will now go to President Biden for his signature.
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      Dems that voted no –
      [ul][*]Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York[*]Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri[*]Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York[*]Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota[*]Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts[*]Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan [/ul]  
       
      Repubs that voted yes-

      [ul][*]Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska[*]Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania[*]Rep. Andrew Gabarino of New York[*]Rep. Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio[*]Rep. John Katko of New York[*]Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois[*]Rep. Nicole Malliotakis of New York[*]Rep. David McKinley of West Virginia[*]Rep. Tom Reed of New York[*]Rep. Chris Smith of New Jersey[*]Fred Upton of Michigan[*]Rep. Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey[*]Rep. Don Young of Alaska [/ul]  

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        November 6, 2021 at 1:15 pm

        The Republican war on apostates who voted for the infrastructure bill begins. 
         
        I seem to recall, once upon a time, that TTRump supported an infrastructure bill that he just never could find the itme to get moving. Now it’s a Socialist bill because Democrats actually passed it.
         
         

        I cant believe Republicans just gave the Democrats their socialism bill, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said.
         

        That 13 House Republicans provided the votes needed to pass this is absurd, Rep. Chip Roy (R-Tex.) [link=https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-issues-statement-infrastructure-bill-vote]said[/link].

        Others threatened before the vote to target or launch primaries against the defectors in their midst.
         

        [i][/i]Vote for this infrastructure bill and I will primary the hell out of you, Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.) [link=https://twitter.com/CawthornforNC/status/1456822729412329474]said shortly before the vote[/link].

        Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), in her typically understated fashion, warned last week that any Republican who voted for the bill would be [link=https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-any-republican-who-backs-bipartisan-infrastructure-deal-traitor-1643639]a traitor to our party[/link], a traitor to their voters and a traitor to our donors. After the vote, she accused the 13 of having voted to [link=https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1456829520451973125?s=21]pass Joe Bidens Communist takeover of America[/link] and tweeted the phone numbers to their congressional offices (while for some reason only listing 12 of the 13).
         
        The National Review summed it up accordingly: [link=https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/disgraceful-house-republicans-rescue-bidens-flailing-agenda/]Disgraceful House Republicans Rescue Bidens Flailing Agenda[/link]:
        [font=”times new roman,times”][size=”3″][i] [Thirteen] Republicans swooped in to rescue Pelosi, provide Biden with the biggest victory of his presidency, and put the rest of his reckless agenda on a glide path to passage in the House.[/i][/size][/font]

        [font=”times new roman,times”][size=”3″][i]This is a substantively bad decision that is political malpractice. It represents a betrayal.[/i][/size][/font]
        [font=”times new roman,times”][size=”3″][i][/i][/size][/font]
        [font=”times new roman,times”][size=”3″][i]Politically, its unclear what Republicans are thinking. Biden entered this week reeling from a devastating rebuke of his presidency by voters in areas of the country thought to be reliably Democratic. He headed into the 2022 election year a wounded animal, and Republicans stood to make major gains. Now, they tossed him a life raft and allowed him to put bipartisan gloss on his radical agenda.[/i][/size][/font]

        [font=”times new roman,times”][size=”3″][i]Every Republican who voted for this monstrosity who is not already retiring should be primaried and defeated by candidates who will actually resist the Left-wing agenda. Those who are retiring should be shamed for the rest of their lives. It also is not too soon to be asking whether Representative Kevin McCarthy should be ousted from leadership for his inability to keep his caucus together on such a crucial vote.[/i][/size][/font]

         

         

  • btomba_77

    Member
    November 8, 2021 at 4:21 am

    [i]National Review[/]i] goes hard at Republicans who voted Yes.

    [link=https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/disgraceful-house-republicans-rescue-bidens-flailing-agenda/]https://www.nationalrevie…idens-flailing-agenda/[/link]

    [link=https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/1456839277678051328]https://twitter.com/phili…us/1456839277678051328[/link]

    “Every Republican who voted for this monstrosity who is not already retiring, should be primaried and defeated. It also is not too soon to be asking whether Rep. Kevin McCarthy should be ousted from leadership.”

    [h1][b]Disgraceful House Republicans Rescue Bidens Flailing Agenda[/b][/h1]

    On Friday night, after months of back and forth, it looked like Bidens agenda could suffer another setback, as not all progressives were sold on the idea of agreeing to pass the infrastructure bill with only a commitment from holdouts in the House that they would vote for the social spending bill in a few weeks, once the CBO analysis comes out. With only three no votes to spare within her own caucus, Pelosi lost six Democrats enough to sink the bill. Yet 13 Republicans swooped in to rescue Pelosi, provide Biden with the biggest victory of his presidency, and put the rest of his reckless agenda on a glide path to passage in the House.

    The federal government already spends more than enough on infrastructure to meet our needs and the COVID-19 bailout money left many states awash in cash. Despite promises, only a [link=https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/after-infrastructure-surrender-republicans-deserve-to-lose/]small portion[/link] of the bill focuses on traditional infrastructure such as fixing roads and bridges and the legislation (soon to be law) will add [link=https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/cbo-says-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-would-add-256-billion-to-deficits/]$256 billion to deficits[/link]. It will also help grease the wheels for the passage of the [link=https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/build-back-better-framework-the-bad-and-the-ugly/]larger multi-trillion welfare bill [/link]that will expand Medicare and Obamacare, initiate a federal takeover of preschool and child care, and impose economically devastating tax increases on individuals and businesses. 
     
    Politically, its unclear what Republicans are thinking. Biden entered this week reeling from a devastating rebuke of his presidency by voters in areas of the country thought to be reliably Democratic. He headed into the 2022 election year a wounded animal, and Republicans stood to make major gains. Now, they tossed him a life raft and allowed him to put bipartisan gloss on his radical agenda. 

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    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      November 8, 2021 at 12:14 pm

      The GOP is in the slope to Marge Green being the leader.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    November 9, 2021 at 5:22 am

    [h1][b]Rank & File GOP Members of Congress seek to Punish 13 Republicans who Voted for Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill[/b][/h1]  
    [link=https://email.punchbowl.news/t/ViewEmail/t/5DD2BF535F84701E2540EF23F30FEDED/F0FBF4A26141BC72E89F0E32AAFB68BF]Punchbowl News[/link]: The GOP leadership is bracing for rank-and-file lawmakers to attempt to strip committee assignments from the 13 Republican lawmakers who voted for the $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill. Several of these lawmakers are also ranking members top Republicans on committees and those could be at risk, too.
     
    A number of GOP lawmakers were upset by the fact that several of their Republican colleagues voted early for the infrastructure package, helping Democrats cross the majority threshold on a key piece of President Joe Bidens legislative agenda and undermining their party strategy.
     
    McCarthys strategy had been to wait until the Democrats reached 218 votes before Republicans cast their votes, making Pelosi and other Democratic leaders carry it on their own. But Katko and the others blew that up. Theres a lingering feeling of betrayal.
     

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