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MSK Fellowship Interviews (2022)
Due to COVID-19 and all of the MSK fellowship interviews being virtual this year, there is a lot of uncertainty as to timeline. Also given that the SSR pushed the application opening to August 1, 2020 and programs not interviewing until November 1, 2020, I thought it would be good to start this thread to share if/when interview requests have gone out from each program and just general thoughts on programs in general.
I don’t know how many people use these forums, but if you do and have applied for an MSK fellowship this year (to start July 1, 2022), please share if you have received interviews from any programs. I think it’ll be helpful overall. Also tips for virtual interviews would be helpful as well.
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Love this idea! Thanks for posting. No interviews yet but hopefully soon! Best of luck to you!
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Hopkins invite on 9/23
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Congrats!
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JHU invite on 9/23
Wisconsin invite on 9/29
Also Emory and Mayo Jax is out too.-
Hey there. Applied in early September to 20+ programs.
Got invites from Stony Brook, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Mayo Jacksonville, Hopkins. Not sure about the timeline for programs to send out the IVs. [8|] Good luck to everyone!
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Heard Utah interviews went out
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invites that I know of: hopkins, MCW, northwestern, cedars sinai
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university of chicago invites are out i believe
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duke invites are out as well.
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u of wisconsin-madison invites are out
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Colorado invites are out
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cleveland clinic invites are out
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Virginia Commonwealth University invites started
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Hello friends, any updates? Just want to make sure I am not missing out on IVs.
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I havent heard anything in the last 1-2 weeks. My home program (big academic) has not released interview invites and are waiting until 11/2
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UT southwestern is out
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That I know of from people applying:
Stony Brook
U of Rochester
Northwell
Cleveland Clinic
U of Wisconsin
Hopkins
VCU
Duke
UVA
UPMC
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Thomas Jefferson is out.
Any invites from California?
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Mayo clinic in rochester and Brigham & Women’s are out
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i don’t think any cali programs other than Cedars has gone out yet
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NYU is out
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Beth israel is filling internally
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Anyone hear about Michigan?
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Henry Ford invites were sent out. Haven’t heard from Univ of Michigan.
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UCLA is out. Any other west coast programs not already mentioned?
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Mayo FL
Mayo MN
UofUtah
UofColorado
UofWashington
UCLA
USC (Southern California)
UC Irvine
Cedars Sinai
UTSW
Duke
Hopkins
Brigham and W
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HSS is out.
Have not heard from Mayo AZ or OHSU. Anyone hear from Stanford, UCSF, or UCSD? -
I think i got an email from stanford saying they’re not doing invites until january. but i could be wrong about that.
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UCSF
UMichigan are out -
MIR/Wash U is out
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OSU is out.
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UVA is out
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Also University of Miami is out.
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What are opinions of Ohio State? I have heard some mixed-ish comments from residents and faculty, although nothing from anyone who was actually a fellow there.
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Would any one be able to share any information on these programs:
1. Henry Ford
2. University of Rochester
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[b][font=”courier new,courier”]Rejection email from HSS. Strange.[/font][/b]
[b][font=”courier new,courier”]UCSD has sent out invites.[/font][/b] -
Got the same email today
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Thats lame. Ive heard some programs screen CVs and offer interviews only to chief residents. Im not sure if HSS is one of those.
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I got an interview at HSS so no that’s not the case there
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Mayo Az and OHSU have sent out invites.
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All the Texas programs have sent out invites.
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Hey! Including MDACC?
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Yessir.
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Has anyone heard anything about the programs in the Carolinas? I know Duke was mentioned previously. What about the others (MUSC, Wake, UNC)?
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Nobody mentioned MGH and UPenn. Are they out?
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MGH and UPenn are out
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Is Stanford out?
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Havent heard anything from Stanford. Anyone hear?
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Stanford emailed a few weeks back saying they were accepting apps until January, then doing interviews February-March. As far as I know they have sent all their invites out yet.
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Case Western Reserve/UH Cleveland is out as of last week
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Any word on UAB?
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stanford is out
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Yale is out.
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UAB is out.
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anyone heard from mount sinai?
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Mount sinai is out
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Hey guys, hope everyone’s interviews are going well! I just wanted to take some time and thank everyone who has posted to this thread over the past few months. I know it’s definitely helped me out. It’s my hope that after the match is over, and we have all passed our boards and have jobs for 2022, we can all take stock of our impressions of different programs, how virtual interviews went, what kind of format was the most enjoyable experience or optimal in terms of getting all of the information you needed to choose a fellowship, and if programs should continue to do this virtual format. (there’s a classic radiology run-on sentence for you guys!). Any thoughts on the overall process or programs is welcome, and I know it will help the next class who are looking to apply to MSK, which is obviously the best fellowship by-far.
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Does anyone know if programs send out rank-to-match emails/calls like they do for residency?
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I’ve heard some programs do but I don’t know how common it is.
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I got a few we really liked you emails and heard second hand through my attendings who knew people at other programs that I was liked but never received anything explicitly saying I was ranked to match when I was applying last cycle.
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Does anyone know if programs send out rank-to-match emails/calls like they do for residency?
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Anyone have thoughts on UCSD vs Stanford?
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Don’t forget to register for Fellowship Match via NRMP today, opens at 12pm EST
[link]https://www.nrmp.org/fellowships/radiology-match/[/link] -
UCSD and Stanford would both provide excellent training. If you can pick, would probably pick which location you would prefer for long term job after fellowship.
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The only catch might be salary. Not sure if UCSD is still doing it – but they used to only offer fellows $10k salary per year (and people still did the fellowships because they got to work with a world renowned expert in Dr. Resnick). If it’s still that way I would think Stanford is the more attractive choice – but UCSD is certainly a powerhouse program in MSK radiology.
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I have heard that in the past that happened but it is no longer allowed and UCSD pays their MSK fellows just like any other PGY VI fellowship at that institution.
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Yeah Im almost certain UCSD now pays a standard fellows salary. I think they have a lot fewer spots than when they were paying minimal wage.
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Speaking with a senior from the last application cycle, UCSD apparently offered both paid and unpaid MSK fellowship spots although it was unclear which spot you would be matched into. I didnt apply or interview at UCSD and so cannot personally verify this information, and I apologize if the above statement is not true.
I imagine though this should have been made clear during this years interviews and if not, a quick email to the UCSD program should be able to get a definite answer.
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I applied to UCSD last cycle. This isnt true. Its all paid now.
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I was wondering what everyone’s thoughts are and what you guys have been told as far as which MSK procedures are viewed as most valuable for new attendings. I realize US seems to be the most valued in the academic world. I’m assuming there are larger, more subspecialized PP groups where you are mostly doing MSK. Are those places doing a lot of MSK ultrasound? Spine procedures?
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Pretty wide range of variability in terms of coverage in MSK Fellowships. Mainly regarding spine imaging/spine procedures and ultrasound. Of course all will do bone/joints (although a tiny number used to do no xrays I think…although IMO this is a bad idea…might sound good/ok at time but I think you would regret not mastering radiographs).
Finding a fellowship that matches your long term career interests should be important
In general, in pp it seems you will do lots of spine mri and no (or minimal US). Also seems rare to do spine procedures.
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Welp so much for trying to become a hardcore spine procedures guy when all I will be reading in PP is spine mri [:(]
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Would like to hear opinions: phone call vs. email the PD at your #1 rank to let them know their position in your rank list? Will you have anybody reach out on your behalf to put in a good word? Who would that be, assuming no strong personal network at the desired fellowship, (your residency PD, Department Chair, MSK Section chief)?
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Hmm good question. I guess it would carry more weight if it came from a faculty member rather than you. Maybe talk to the person you have in mind and ask how do you think I should go about letting the program know that it is my favorite?
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I think it’s best to get whichever faculty member that you know who has any sort of relationship with the program to reach out – ie: if they know the program director or any of the other people who interviewed you / people who work there. Other than that, I think emailing the program director at your #1 and giving your intent to rank them #1 is a smart thing to do. But of course only do that with 1 program bc word gets around.
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Anyone have any idea why Mallinkrodt MSK hasn’t registered for the match on NRMP? Seems odd. Unless they’ve already filled their spots and aren’t participating.
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never mind. MIR is under the name Barnes Jewish Hospital-MO on NRMP.
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Congratulations everyone on matching!
Does anyone have an idea on how many unfilled positions there are this cycle (curious because of the virtual interview season)?
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At least 35 unfilled spots
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whats your source for this number?
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Unmatched people have list
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All the numbers are available on the NRMP website.
MSK match data:
Programs:
Filled: 44 (53%)
Unfilled: 39 (47%)
Spots:
Filled: 156 (71.6%)
Unfilled: 62 (28.4%)
Applicants:
Matched to MSK: 154/156
Basically, there are way more spots than applicants
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Yeah. I’m pretty sure we are going to opt out of the match.
Grab your candidate, have him/her sign a contract …. done.
I think that the pandemic and zoom interview really really hurt regional fellowship programs this year. With no financial or time barrier for applicants, many of them could sit for 20+ interviews at coastal high-powered programs.
For us, a mid-tier program in the mid-west, our applicants generally drive for interviews from within 3-4 hours total distance. We compete against Ohio State, Cincinnati, UPMC, Michigan, Ford …. this year we had to compete against the coastal programs who all now seem to have expanded to 6 or more fellow slots.
Summary: I never wanted to enter the MSK match. I thought we’d get f*cked …. and we did. -
I only see the match data for fellowships starting in 2021 on the nrmp website
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After signing in to your NRMP account, on the top header, there is a tab for “options”. When you hover over it, there is a tab for “reports” which gives you options for overall match results an per state/institution data.
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I wonder if any smaller breast and neuro fellowships are thinking about leaving their match as well?
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I wonder if any smaller breast and neuro fellowships are thinking about leaving their match as well?
I am already in conversations with out Breast division … jump out together simultaneously.
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You could start interviewing and try to sign r3s for 2023 and r2s for 2024 next month
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You could start interviewing and try to sign r3s for 2023 and r2s for 2024 next month
If you went out of the match, yes.
My gut tells me there was no small amount of “off the books” handshake deals in this year’s match too.
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2022-2023 MSK Radiology Fellowship, University of Iowa—Filled 8/2/2021
We have an unexpected opening for a one-year MSK fellowship position for 2022-23. Fellowships include hands-on experience with plain film studies, Multi-detector CT, MRI imaging, arthrograms, and interventional musculoskeletal procedures (needle biopsies, joint aspirations, epidural steroid injection, facet injections, and nerve root blocks). Fellows are also trained in the interpretation of pediatric orthopaedic cases and spine imaging. There is a variety of cases encompassing complex orthopaedic trauma, hand, foot, sports, tumors, pediatric and spinal disorders. The section also provides imaging services for a busy Rheumatology Clinic and for the Iowa Hawkeyes sports teams.
To apply: [link=https://gme.medicine.uiowa.edu/musculoskeletal-radiology-fellowship/how-apply]https://gme.medicine.uiowa.edu/musculoskeletal-radiology-fellowship/how-apply[/link]Iowa City is a unique location in the Midwest, and is North America’s only UNESCO City of Literature! We are centrally located between Chicago, Minneapolis, Kansas City, and Omaha – all just a 4-5 hour drive away. The area offers hiking, biking, kayaking, sports events, wineries, craft breweries, music festivals, Broadway shows, farmers markets, family friendly activities, and the list goes on.
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My gut tells me there was no small amount of “off the books” handshake deals in this year’s match too.
The more I think about it, the more I want out.
If there are an increasing number of “coastal elite” spots that applicants seem to prefer and 50 more spots than applicants overall, isn’t that sort of the primary problem for the smaller midwest programs? Moreso than the match?
I get how not being in the match might give a better shot at some of the local candidates before they spend money on all the interviews, but seems like an uphill battle against that backdrop to some degree regardless. -
You are absolutely correct. Even if the midwest programs drop out of the match – they would need the candidates to accept a position without participating in the match. Because if they do participate in the Match it seems like they can scramble into the elite coastal programs even if they go unmatched
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I see where Dergon is coming from, rads are risk averse and some may jump a the chance to lock down a solid fellowship early on rather than deal with the time, expense, and uncertainty of the match.
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We had our meeting. We are going to stay in the match. (Programs had to commit with an MUO to the SSR by AUg. 1)
Going to do our best to fight it out and lock down some local/regional candidates. Probably going to cease tele-interviews and limit geographic range of candidates and/or only consider people with strong local ties.
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Obviously institutionally this may not always be an option. But you could always try to increase your incentive for people to come. Find something to offer to fellows that other places wont get, and then advertise it. If your fellows are taking attending level call then find a way to pay them appropriately for it if you are not already doing that.
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Yep. Compensation is for sure a topic of conversation. — We are looking at paid call and/or guaranteed moonlighting and/or increasing base pay.
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When do programs being to review applications and when do invites start going out?
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Last year, the SSR announced the start date for applications on their twitter without updating the website. So, I would follow them on twitter and turn on notifications. Last year they pushed up the start date for application submission by 1 month earlier than the year before. Food for thought.
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Per the SSR website timeline, programs have been able to accept invitations since August 1st. Programs cannot begin interviews until November 1st. A few of the programs have listed on their websites that they may not begin reviewing applications until early or mid-October though many others do not have that information published.
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Also just remember that the MSK match is not through ERAS. You’ll save a lot of money due to no application fees, but you will also be doing a lot of paperwork and emailing each individual program who all have slightly different requirements of what documents they want you to send in.
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Sometimes you may want to call the place you applied to after a few weeks. Never know if they missed something or got busy.
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