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  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 16, 2023 at 2:33 pm

    [b]Why the Republican Party Isnt Moving On from Trump[/b]  
     
    [link=https://smotus.substack.com/p/there-will-not-be-a-pivot?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1327720&post_id=136099365&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email]Seth Masket[/link]: The folks who run the party now are the populist grassroots outside DC. They decide who gets nominated for office and who doesnt. They dont see this as a temporary madness; they see this as the movement that put them in charge and actually cares about the things they care about. They dont see any need to snap out of it; that concept doesnt make sense to them.
     
    Indeed, calling for them to snap out of it is essentially asking them to give power back to the previous faction that never took them seriously in the first place. Why would they want to do that? Theyre in charge, and as far as theyre concerned theyre winning.
     
    So no, theyre not going to abandon the guy who put them in power. Not even if hes convicted, not even if hes in prison. And yes, that means the country has a potentially awful election year coming up, in which the nations official institutions have deemed one partys leader guilty and sentenced him and the nearly half the country considers those institutions illegitimate. It is a toxic, tragic, and potentially violent cocktail.
     
     

     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 21, 2023 at 3:50 am

    good satire –
     
    [link]https://youtu.be/GxTzMG23-60[/link]
     
    GOP candidate “says the quiet part out loud” in campaign speech

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      August 21, 2023 at 4:31 am

      Satire? Sounds exactly like the Conservative political platform we’ve been experiencing for the past 40 years.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        September 6, 2023 at 5:13 am

        Food for thought.
         
        [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/desantis-rejects-ira-federal-funding-florida/675216/]https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/desantis-rejects-ira-federal-funding-florida/675216/[/link]

        ou dont often see someone turn down $346 million in free money. But thats effectively what Floridas Ron DeSantis is doing.
        The Republican governor and presidential candidate has blocked his state from getting energy-efficiency incentives under the Inflation Reduction Act, the signature Biden-administration policy that passed in 2022, [i]Politico [/i][link=https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/30/desantis-refuses-biden-climate-ira-money-00113397]noted last week[/link]. DeSantis vetoed a request by the GOP-dominated state legislature to establish a $5 million rebate programa program that is essential to accessing $341 million more.
         
        DeSantis hasnt explained his veto decision. [i]Politico [/i]frames this as a story about the coming presidential race, saying the denial could blunt the political impact of legislation that some Democrats believe will be a key factor in the 2024 election. [b]But another and more salient way to think about it is that its part of many Republican politicians strong commitment in recent years to ideological purityand owning the libseven at the expense of impoverishing and immiserating their own constituents.[/b]

         

        The result of these choices is, [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/06/red-and-blue-state-divide-is-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/]as my colleague Ronald Brownstein has reported[/link], a de facto split between red states and blue states into two distinctly different countries, with widely divergent outcomes:
         
        [i][b]The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to [the analyst Michael] Podhorzers calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate. The COVID vaccination rate is about 20 percent higher in the blue section, and the per capita COVID death rate is about 20 percent higher in the red.[/b][/i]
         
        [b]In short, Republican governors are choosing policies that make the lives of their citizens worse in order to make a point[/b]. 
         

         

        • satyanar

          Member
          September 6, 2023 at 6:59 am

          Im sorry you still think this about whether or not red or blue is better.

          In fact it is clear that is all that goes on in the AM politics section. Hobby posting at its best.

          • satyanar

            Member
            September 6, 2023 at 7:12 am

            And no, nothing about my post should suggest you are wrong in your judgment about which is better.

            Whats the problem? There are a lot of reasonable people in red states that dont believe in some or all the policies of their leadership. Vice versa. We need to be figuring out how to fix that.

            I know its hard. We should be educated people. I think we can help.

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              September 6, 2023 at 8:53 am

              Like abortion, many Conservative politicians thought their consituencies were anti-abortion, up to and including no exceptions regardless of everything. Just see their surprise as they found out their assumptions were very incorrect, their constituents wanted the ability to choose an abortion with the limit being only what trimester. Imagine if people, their constituents were given a referendum to decide on things like Medicare/Medicaid coverage & participation & being able to use the monies for infrastructure development in the IRA, how would they vote? Recall that in those very same Red states initial opposition to Medicare. And the Affordable Care Act. And now?
               
              The people are not being given the choice and are also given misinformation about the downfall of civilization due to these Democratic programs. And yet civilization goes on, even better than before.

              • satyanar

                Member
                September 6, 2023 at 9:10 am

                Quote from Frumious

                Like abortion, many Conservative politicians thought their consituencies were anti-abortion, up to and including no exceptions regardless of everything. Just see their surprise as they found out their assumptions were very incorrect, their constituents wanted the ability to choose an abortion with the limit being only what trimester. Imagine if people, their constituents were given a referendum to decide on things like Medicare/Medicaid coverage & participation & being able to use the monies for infrastructure development in the IRA, how would they vote? Recall that in those very same Red states initial opposition to Medicare. And the Affordable Care Act. And now?

                The people are not being given the choice and are also given misinformation about the downfall of civilization due to these Democratic programs. And yet civilization goes on, even better than before.

                 
                Yes, we should all hope and work so that everyone in Red states can use their power to vote for what is good policy. We are seeing it happen. Good news.
                 
                I’m sorry my pointing out your useless inflammatory approach makes you more and more angry. In fact you look like a fool when you react. Not my goal.

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              September 6, 2023 at 9:00 am

              And if you are opposed to “hobby posting, ” get the fluck off AM. You are contradicting yourself & simultaneously patting yourself on your back for your hobby posting. AM has been one of the ways I’ve always got the alternative view besides reading right-wing sites. And being aghast at the idiotic viewpoints on topics such as COVID being a nothing-burger, vaccines and masks don’t work and COVID was a plandemic government plan to subvert democracy by authoritarians like Biden, etc, etc, etc.
               
              Learn new sh1t every day about never underestimating the paranoid stupidity of people.

              • satyanar

                Member
                September 6, 2023 at 9:15 am

                Quote from Frumious

                [b]And if you are opposed to “hobby posting, ” get the fluck off AM[/b]. You are contradicting yourself & simultaneously patting yourself on your back for your hobby posting. AM has been one of the ways I’ve always got the alternative view besides reading right-wing sites. And being aghast at the idiotic viewpoints on topics such as COVID being a nothing-burger, vaccines and masks don’t work and COVID was a plandemic government plan to subvert democracy by authoritarians like Biden, etc, etc, etc.

                Learn new sh1t every day about never underestimating the paranoid stupidity of people.

                 
                No, I think it’s worth making this a better place just like our country. I doubt you ever read or listened to the Hidden Brain podcast that led me to coin the term “hobby posting”. You have no idea what it means. You hate getting called out for being no better than someone on a sports site, telling everyone their team is better than the other’s. 
                 
                I’m not interested in participating in that. But no, I won’t GTFO. You might learn something.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 28, 2023 at 5:15 am

    [h1][b]The New Rights Radical Break From Reaganism[/b][/h1] [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2023%2F08%2F27%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Framaswamy-pence-debate-new-right.html]New York Times[/link]: Extolling Ronald Reagan used to be the safest of safe spaces for an ambitious Republican. Yet here was an upstart candidate, with no record of public service, standing at center stage in a G.O.P. debate and invoking Mr. Reagans famous 1984 [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fpoliticaldictionary.com%2Fwords%2Fmorning-in-america%2F]morning in America[/link] theme not as an applause line, but to mock one of the partys staunchest conservatives an original product of the Reagan revolution as out of touch with Americas true condition.

    The moment captured a rhetorical and substantive shift inside the G.O.P. that accelerated during the Trump era and is now being fed to the base in a purer form by Mr. Ramaswamy, who in late July overtook the former vice president in national polling averages. It is a shift to the so-called new right often younger, often very online that rejects the sunny optimism of Mr. Reagans acolytes as the delusional mutterings of boomers.

    In the new rights overheated vernacular, these older, more established Republicans a group that includes Mr. Pence but also most of the Republican conference in the United States Senate have no idea what time it is. They dont understand that the Republic is on its last legs.

     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 29, 2023 at 4:01 am

      [link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-and-ramaswamy-show-us-how-the-worst-get-to-the-top]Trump and Ramaswamy Show Us How the Worst Get to the Top

      [/link][b]Vivek Ramaswamys rise is merely the latest sign of dysfunction in a party that idolizes not only Trump, but also Kanye West, Elon Musk, and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
      [/b]

      In his classic 1944 book [i]The Road to Serfdom[/i], F.A. Hayek wrote about [link=https://fee.org/resources/the-road-to-serfdom-chapter-10-why-the-worst-get-on-top/]Why the Worst Get on Top[/link]. As Hayek explained, the unscrupulous and uninhibited are likely to be more successful in a society tending towards totalitarianism. Sound familiar?

      Im thankful that totalitarianism is not yet synonymous with Americabut the larger point is that bad systems inexorably promote [i]bad[/i] [i]people[/i] who are willing to do what it takes to claw their way to the top. Todays Republican Party is that kind of system.

      Once you understand (and accept) this reality, its easier to make political predictions regarding the GOP. Who wins? Its almost always the [link=https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rep-massies-theory-voters-who-voted-for-libertarians-and-then-trump-were-always-just-seeking-the-craziest-son-of-a-bitch-in-the-race]craziest son of a bitch[/link]. Who wins? The people who have no sense of shame. The people who are willing to kiss your buttor slit your throatdepending on the circumstances.
       
      In this type of culture, attributes like decency, merit, and consistency become liabilities. [link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/keyword/asa-hutchinson]Asa Hutchinson[/link] is too decent (read boring) to win. But the slick and fast-talking Ramaswamy is perfectly suited to thrive in this [link=https://biblehub.com/john/18-40.htm]Give us Barabbas[/link]! era.


       

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  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    September 6, 2023 at 10:08 am

    Like all your posts, you never seem capable of explaining your own posts without referring someone to your library albeit without a card catalog or link, etc.
     
    If you can’t explain anything yourself, maybe you just don’t understand the topic yourself.

    • satyanar

      Member
      September 6, 2023 at 10:21 am

      You just don’t remember. Convenient when you are proven wrong:
       
      [link=https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/passion-isnt-enough/]Passion Isn’t Enough | Hidden Brain Media[/link]
       
      I’ve posted it many times before and you refused to educate yourself. I’ll try again because I care about you.
       
       

    • satyanar

      Member
      September 6, 2023 at 10:23 am

      Quote from Frumious

      Like all your posts, you never seem capable of explaining your own posts without referring someone to your library albeit without a card catalog or link, etc.

      If you can’t explain anything yourself, maybe you just don’t understand the topic yourself.

       
      But this is quite amusing and convenient. Beg off learning and understanding by calling your teacher incompetent. Is that how you got through your schooling? 
       
      Glad to have the answer. I now understand your ignorance a lot better. It will help as I educate you further.
       
       

       
       
       

      • satyanar

        Member
        September 6, 2023 at 11:47 am

        Again for Frumi the wizard:
         
        [link=https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/passion-isnt-enough/]Passion Isn’t Enough | Hidden Brain Media[/link]

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