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Elon Musk looks to buy Twitter
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[link=https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3697935-musk-said-he-plans-to-cut-nearly-75-percent-of-twitters-workforce-report/]Musk said he plans to cut nearly 75 percent of Twitters workforce: [/link][/h2]
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If that did occur it would be interesting to see a boycott of Twitter but I don’t that will be happen as long as people are making money by having followers.
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[link=https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3697935-musk-said-he-plans-to-cut-nearly-75-percent-of-twitters-workforce-report/]Musk said he plans to cut nearly 75 percent of Twitters workforce: [/link]
Fake News!
It’s only 50%
[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fen-us%2Fmoney%2Fcompanies%2Felon-musk-begins-mass-layoffs-at-twitter%2Far-AA13IB9l%3Focid%3Dmsedgntp%26cvid%3D9afb59b851824580a147e4f103c25de8]Elon Musk begins mass layoffs at Twitter[/link]-
Not sure why I should care the Head Twit troll might have bit off more than he can chew when he originally trolled Twit & signed that contract.
Oops. Genius at large.
I like his cars & his space program seems legit but he can keep Twit. If Twit dies due to his shenanigans , I’m not sure the world will suffer.
I am rather enjoying the right-wingers trying desperately to make Elon-hating by the Left a thing. They don’t quite explain why but reason was never a strong point on the right.
Popcorn time.
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[link=https://www.marketwatch.com/story/elon-musk-completes-twitter-purchase-fires-ceo-and-other-top-execs-reports-11666918507] Elon Musk completes Twitter purchase, fires CEO and other top execs:
[/link] the top executives of Twitter were fired and escorted from the building, including Chief Executive Parag Agrawal, Chief Financial Officer Ned Segal and Vijaya Gadde, head of legal policy, trust and safety.
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[b]Twitter Advertisers Pledge Boycott If Trump Let Back On[/b][/h1]
A group of advertisers have said they will pause all their ads on Twitter if Donald Trumps account is reinstated, the [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-will-face-an-early-twitter-challenge-preventing-advertiser-flight-11666871828]Wall Street Journal[/link] reports.-
[h1][link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Ftechnology%2F2022%2F10%2F28%2Fmusk-twitter-racist-posts%2F]Racist tweets quickly surfaced after Musk closed Twitter deal[/link][/h1]
An emboldened cast of anonymous trolls spewed racist slurs and Nazi memes onto Twitter in the hours after billionaire industrialist Elon Musk took over the social network Thursday, raising fears of how his pledge of unrestricted free speech could fuel a new wave of online hate.
Twitter has struggled to enforce its rules against harassment and extremism, and the company has not yet published any broad-scale changes to its content-moderation policies.
But Musk, a self-described free speech absolutist, has fiercely criticized the companys previous leaders as overly rigid and suppressive and said he would work to overturn some of the companys main enforcement mechanisms, such as indefinitely suspending accounts.
A wide range of anonymous Twitter accounts celebrated Musks takeover and argued it meant the old rules against bigotry no longer applied.
Elon now controls twitter. Unleash the racial slurs. K—S AND N—–S, said one account, using slurs for Jews and Black people. I can freely express how much I hate n—–s now, thank you elon, another said.
According to the article, many tweets [i]only[/i] contained racial slurs or glorifications of Nazis that have gotten hundreds of retweets, and apparently there’s been organized campaigns via Telegram and other apps to unleash these tweets as soon as the purchase was announced.
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[h1]Welcome to Hell, Elon[/h1] [b] The dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money.[/b]
[link=https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation]Nilay Patel[/link]: You f*cked up real good, kiddo.
Twitter is a disaster clown car company that is successful despite itself, and there is no possible way to grow users and revenue without making a series of enormous compromises that will ultimately destroy your reputation and possibly cause grievous damage to your other companies.
I say this with utter confidence because the problems with Twitter are not engineering problems. They are political problems. Twitter, the company, makes very little interesting technology; the tech stack is not the valuable asset. The asset is the user base: hopelessly addicted politicians, reporters, celebrities, and other people who should know better but keep posting anyway. You! You, Elon Musk, are addicted to Twitter. Youre the asset. You just bought yourself for $44 billion dollars.That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total a——-. So you can make all the promises about free speech you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that [link=https://www.techdirt.com/2022/02/24/as-expected-trumps-social-network-is-rapidly-banning-users-it-doesnt-like-without-telling-them-why/]realizes the same essential truth[/link].
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[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/28/musk-twitter-racist-posts/]Washington Post[/link]: Racist tweets quickly surfaced after Musk closed Twitter deal.
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I think that precisely spells out Elon’s problems wiht Twit to a tee/Twit. Elon himself is an addicted Twit troll. A de-regulated Twit somehow escapes me as the ideal that will work well, at least better than it has worked.
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Let the lawsuits begin …
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/29/technology/twitter-layoffs-musk-jobs.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…layoffs-musk-jobs.html[/link]
Musk reportedly firing all the senior staff at Twitter “for cause” and won’t pay severance packages (in the range of tens of millions of dollars at the highest level)
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All Hail Elon, King of trolls.
[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msn.com%2Fen-us%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Felon-musk-shares-lurid-conspiracy-theory-about-paul-pelosi-attack-in-response-to-hillary-clinton%2Far-AA13xvCi%3Focid%3Dmsedgntp%26cvid%3D623593a0cb164320b0ca7eac739d2ab2]Elon Musk shares lurid conspiracy theory about Paul Pelosi attack in response to Hillary Clinton (msn.com)[/link]There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye, he wrote.
The Twitter and Tesla boss shared a link to an article which claimed without any evidence that Mr Pelosi was drunk and met his alleged attacker in a gay bar.
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Why I was interested in the curiouser comment. When this kind of craziness starts coming out its best to avoid innuendo and just state intentions. Too easy to be confused with nut jobs.
Strangely I thought I was lobbing a softball to fw when I pressed him on it.
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To answer a potential question from fw, no I do not confuse him with the nut jobs. I was hoping for the nuanced reply Ive come to expect from him rather than just the innuendo.
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As for the level of “journalism” in the link Elon shared …
The Santa Monica Observer 6 years ago “reported” that Hillary Clinton had died and been replaced by a body double on the campaign trail.
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The Walrus was Paul. & Saddam still lives, a body double was executed.
Blame the media. As if no one has the capacity to discern BS from real reality.
Elon is a narcissistic troll enamored with himself. Recall he called one of the Thailand boys rescuers a pedo & sent a submarine to rescue the boys.
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[link=https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/10/30/musk-shares-unfounded-conspiracy-theory-about-paul-pelosi-attack-on-twitter/?sh=26a2691f316e]https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/10/30/musk-shares-unfounded-conspiracy-theory-about-paul-pelosi-attack-on-twitter[/link]
Musk linked to a no-longer-accessible article from the Santa Monica Observerwhich has [link=https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-08-09/local-fake-news-hyperpartisan]spread[/link] false information in the pastthat appeared to [link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-amplifies-baseless-conspiracy-theory-in-pelosi-attack]claim[/link] without any evidence that no one broke into the Pelosis home and that Paul Pelosi was having an affair with a male prostitute, even though [link=https://apnews.com/article/paul-pelosi-assaulted-156ece77186eb11b97260af3c5122f67?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_01]police say[/link] Pelosi called 911 during the attack.
Musk did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Forbes.
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It doesnt matter the conspiracy is already there
Many many fine people are saying
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[b]Elon Musk Will Require Payment to Remain Verified[/b][/h1]
Twitter is strongly considering making its users pay to remain verified on the service, [link=https://www.platformer.news/p/elons-first-big-move-pay-to-remain?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=7976&post_id=81598818&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email]Platformer[/link] reports.
If the project makes forward, users would have to subscribe to Twitter Blue at $4.99 a month or lose their badges.-
Be funny if no one kept the check.
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[link=https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3712742-elon-musk-named-sole-director-of-twitter-dissolves-board/]https://thehill.com/polic…itter-dissolves-board/[/link]
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[link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-01/twitter-limits-content-enforcement-tools-as-us-election-looms]Twitter Limiting Content-Enforcement Tools as US Election Looms
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Twitter Inc., the social network being overhauled by new owner Elon Musk, has frozen some employee access to internal tools used for content moderation and other policy enforcement, curbing the staffs ability to clamp down on misinformation ahead of a major US election.
Most people who work in Twitters Trust and Safety organization are currently unable to alter or penalize accounts that break rules around misleading information, offensive posts and hate speech, except for the most high-impact violations that would involve real-world harm, according to people familiar with the matter. Those posts were prioritized for manual enforcement, they said.…
The scaled-back content moderation has raised concerns among employees on Twitters Trust and Safety team, who believe the company will be short-handed in enforcing policies in the run-up to the US midterm election on Nov. 8. Trust and Safety employees are often tasked with enforcing Twitters misinformation and civic integrity policies — many of the same policies that former President Donald Trump routinely violated before and after the 2020 elections, the company said at the time.
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“You don’t like it? Make your own Twitter”. haha, one of the several ideas that the haters loved before, and hate now
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[h3][link=https://nypost.com/2022/11/01/top-ad-firm-ipg-advises-clients-to-pause-twitter-ads-report/]Top Advertising firm IPG advises clients to ‘pause’ Twitter ads: report[/link][/h3]
Interpublic Group, or IPG, is the parent company of Universal McCann, with a roster of blue-chip clients that includes American Express, Coca-Cola, Johnson & Johnson, Spotify and others.
MAGNA, IPGs media intelligence arm, told clients in an email that Twitter has been silent in any direct comms with marketers and agencies, email newsletter Morning Brews Ryan Barwick reported.
The current situation is unpredictable and chaotic, and bad actors and unsafe behaviors thrive in such an environment, the message reportedly added.[/QUOTE]
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Elon paid 44 billion for a 10 billion company. Hes a good businessman like Trump
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Elon paid 44 billion for a 10 billion company. Hes a good businessman like Trump
You get what you pay for…
[link=https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587853401014034435]https://twitter.com/elonm…us/1587853401014034435[/link]-
He also bought Bitcoin in the 50K range and sold at average cost in the 30-35k range
Couple more of those wise investments or a big drop in Tesla stock and he will be not so much the genius
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Who knows, but I’m guessing the advertiser thing won’t amount to much. Fox News is clearly biased, and yeah a lot of companies won’t advertise there, but plenty do and Fox News does fine.
Whatever happens at Twitter (and I think it’s a train wreck, but often hard to look away from), I doubt it will become more of a “don’t touch” for advertisers than Fox News.
Lot of chest thumping right now, and of course Elon could screw everything up, but I don’t think his advocating for free speech is going to be the problem that some seem to hope it will be.
Is anyone else here old enough to remember Usenet? Twitter reminds me a lot of Usenet, for good and for ill.-
Theyre replatforming banned accounts and supposedly theres an uptick in hate speech.
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I cant see a lot of people paying for Twitter
Too many other free sites out there
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I cant see a lot of people paying for Twitter
Too many other free sites out there
Yeah. There’s the old adage that says “If you’re getting it for free, [b]you[/b] are the product.”
But that is the choice that people around the world have consistently made when it comes to social media. They get it for free and the company sells them ads (and maybe sells their personal info)
The challenge for Twitter (and now Musk … but it pre-dates Musk’s take over) is that thus far it has been difficult to monetize. It’s hard to get ads in front of people.
If moderation slacks too much, major corporations will pull themselves back from the platform, not wanting to risk being racism/anti-semitism/homophobic -adjacent. (Like I linked above: That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total a**holes. So you can make all the promises about free speech you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that [link=https://www.techdirt.com/2022/02/24/as-expected-trumps-social-network-is-rapidly-banning-users-it-doesnt-like-without-telling-them-why/]realizes the same essential truth[/link]. )
And Even is Musk is able to pull-off the blue-check subscription model, it’s a drop in the bucket (like tens of millions relative to tens of billions $)
Now, the guy is the richest man in the world. He *could* choose to say “To hell with it, I’ll run it the way I want, monetary losses be damned.”
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see this from Rashad Robinson (per her profile President of @ColorOfChange and spokesperson @votingwhileblk ). This is from a few hours ago:
[i]Yesterday, along with leaders from the [link=https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/StopHateForProfit?src=hashtag_click]#StopHateForProfit[/link] coalition, I spoke with Elon Musk, [b]who agreed to not re-platform anyone before the midterms that has been deplatformed prior to that point[/b] and keep in place election integrity policies through the midterms. In addition… [/i]
[i]…he agreed to be transparent about content moderation policies. We secured these agreements because we have seen, time and again, how the right has used this platform to spread disinformation and hate.
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[link=https://mobile.twitter.com/rashadrobinson/status/1587861151299272704]https://mobile.twitter.com/rashadrobinson/status/1587861151299272704[/link]
And per Musk:
[i]Talked to civil society leaders @JGreenblattADL, @YaelEisenstat, @rashadrobinson, @JGo4Justice, @normanlschen, @DerrickNAACP, @TheBushCenter Ken Hersch & @SindyBenavides about how Twitter will continue to combat hate & harassment & enforce its election integrity policies[/i]
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Theyre replatforming banned accounts and supposedly theres an uptick in hate speech.
[link=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-twitter-caused-measurable-spike-hate-speech-study/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=187983871]https://www.cbsnews.com/n…e&linkId=187983871[/link]
In the week leading up to Musk’s acquisition, researchers said there were no more than 84 hostile tweets an hour. But from midnight on October 28 to noon the next day, there were 4,778 hate-filled tweets.-
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Theyre replatforming banned accounts and supposedly theres an uptick in hate speech.
[link=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-twitter-caused-measurable-spike-hate-speech-study/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=187983871]https://www.cbsnews.com/n…e&linkId=187983871[/link]
In the week leading up to Musk’s acquisition, researchers said there were no more than 84 hostile tweets an hour. But from midnight on October 28 to noon the next day, there were 4,778 hate-filled tweets.
right, and that’s actually a pretty balanced article if you read it. They aren’t reinstating banned accounts yet. There was a surge, and they have a plausible explanation and are working to stamp it out. Musk and Roth sound pretty reasonable.
From the article:
[i]Yoel Roth, Twitter’s head of safety and security, has also confirmed an increase in hate speech. On Monday, he tweeted that the company has seen a “surge in hateful conduct” and removed more than 1,500 accounts. A graph he shared of total impression of tweets with at least one slur shows that the increase kicked off on Friday very shortly after the Musk acquisition was announced. It appeared to spike between Saturday and Sunday. [/i]
[i]Roth described the surge as a “short-term trolling campaign” with many of the accounts they removed stemming from repeated “bad actors.” On Saturday, he said as an example that more than 50,000 tweets that used a particular slur were issued by [link=https://twitter.com/yoyoel/status/1586542283469381632]just 300 accounts[/link], most of which were “inauthentic.” [/i]
[i]”These issues aren’t new, and the people targeted by hateful conduct aren’t numbers or data points. We’re going to continue investing in policy and technology to make things better,” he tweeted.[/i]
[i]”Twitter will not allow anyone who was de-platformed for violating Twitter rules back on platform until we have a clear process for doing so, which will take at least a few more weeks,” Musk said Tuesday night. “[b]Twitter’s content moderation council will include representatives with widely divergent views, which will certainly include the civil rights community and groups who face hate-fueled violence.”[/b]
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Theyre replatforming banned accounts and supposedly theres an uptick in hate speech.
Musk has said it will take weeks before they can start reviewing banned accounts and decide which if any should be reinstated. Do you have info that that’s false?
There was an uptick in specific hate speech, b/c one of the Twitter heads of content moderation (something Roth) wrote about it– he said it was largely linked to a small # of accounts with a huge # of posts and they are banning them as fast as they can and working to eliminate. The policy on hate speech has not changed. Maybe it will, but it hasn’t yet.
Again, I have no idea how this is going to end up, but the current online discussion is, well, about par for the course in terms of political discussion in the USA. Which is to say, not entirely factually correct. Interestingly, more prominent people seem to be threatening to quit over the $8/month charge for a checkmark than the free speech stuff.
On the business side, sure seems like he massively overpaid. He has said as much. When he says he’s not doing this to make money I believe him. He’s a strange guy, with a truly bizarre appetite for risk. I mean, he has ~$100 mil after PayPal and literally bets it all on an electric car company, which almost no one thought would succeed and was predicted by the smart money to go bankrupt many times (including as recently as a few years ago) and a private rocket company, which did come very close to bankrupting him. I absolutely thought he was going bankrupt multiple times. Good thing I don’t try to pick individual stocks I guess.
Which is a long way of saying: It definitely seems like he massively overpaid for Twitter. Seems like it could easily go bankrupt. However, I would give it better odds of success than I would have Tesla 5 years ago, or SpaceX before they really got going. So, who knows?
Musk has said he believes the world is either a computer simulation or something similar. I honestly think the way he lives his life is shaped by that. Steve Jobs was another person who took massive financial risks without concern (although not quite at the Musk level): before he returned to Apple and became a billionaire, he paid a significant % of his net worth for Pixar. Wasn’t at all clear that was going to pay off for a while IMO. Jobs has said that after Apple first went public and he was wealthy, but not fabulously so, he never worried about money again. He had a deep sense of his own mortality and so, basically, you’re going to die why worry so much about money? Or something like that.-
This has nothing to do with Musk except the frustration part. He upended the censorship role and media control that was formerly at twitter.
That’s why we have all the whine here. Would y’all like some manchego with that?-
*popcorn*
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*popcorn*
The meltdowns are always high comedy. We lost our authoritarianism! Now let’s go complain about [supposed] authoritarianism!-
Stephen King – I wrote a book where teenage boys run a train on a teenage girl to save the world
He’s not banned from Twitter! Still sells books.
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[link=https://www.reuters.com/legal/twitter-sued-mass-layoffs-bloomberg-news-2022-11-04/] Twitter sued for mass layoffs[/h3] [/link]
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California Labor Lawyers are feasting on this one. The penalties are stiff, and on it’s face it looks like he’s going to be paying out the nose.
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Didn’t he just win a similar case in Texas?
Private company right?
So a private company can make people get vaccines but they can’t fire them?
Hmm…
You should be able to fire anyone for anything at any time if you’re a private company right guys?
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Different state with different labor laws
I claim no expertise . Have to wait and see
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It’s not about lifetime employment with Twit. Never was. As if.
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It’s not about lifetime employment with Twit. Never was.
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[link=https://twitter.com/josheidelson/status/1588546823253241858]https://twitter.com/joshe…us/1588546823253241858[/link]
It looks like employees are getting their notices and at least some will be paid until January 4, says the attorney who sued Twitter under WARN Act. I am pleased that Elon Musk learned something from the lawsuit we brought against him at Tesla”
Elon Musk now is making an effort to comply with the law on advance notice for layoffs, the attorney who sued Twitter last night now says. But she says she’ll be looking into concerns about how Twitter chose which workers to terminate, and retaliation -
California has laws on notice of mass layoffs. I’m reading that he looks like he’s going to be in the hot water un Australia too. All the employees were locked out overnight. They have similar laws. If he instead said today is the notice that two months from now there will be mass layoffs. It sounds like that would have been better strategy. In Cali it’s the WARN law and it definitely applies to his company.
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Im skeptical on this because I have no idea who this guy is but hes claiming to have been fired with a Elon meme emailed to him. Supposedly to other people also.
[link=https://twitter.com/jonslater37/status/1588676047041695749?s=46&t=9TrF3vbEvnjCXzswT-EMZw]https://twitter.com/jonsl…9TrF3vbEvnjCXzswT-EMZw[/link]
Should be interesting to see what leaks out of there.
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Elon said theyve all been offered three month severance packages which is twice as long as required by law. The man knows how to run a business and he knows that losing $4 million a day is not how to do it.
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Coalition of more than 40 civil society organizations [link=https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3714533-groups-call-on-top-twitter-advertisers-to-press-musk-to-enforce-rules/]address a letter[/link] to the top 20 Twitter advertisers urging them to suspend their partnerships with the company if Musk chose not to enforce the current community guidelines.
We, the undersigned organizations, call on you to notify Musk and publicly commit that you will cease all advertising on Twitter globally if he follows through on his plans to undermine brand safety and community standards, including gutting content moderation,________
At the same time, Twitter moderation team now supposedly cut to 15 people. Musk says there has been a “massive” decline in revenue since his takeover.
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Interesting thread on what is driving Twitter’s “massive” revenue decline.
[link=https://twitter.com/GoAngelo/status/1588696157794242560]https://twitter.com/GoAng…us/1588696157794242560[/link]
“Twitter (like a lot of digital companies) participates in an event called new fronts. At this event, they sell large chunks of ads for the following year. Typically, Twitter sells like ~$600-900M in ads at new fronts. That’s guaranteed revenue for following year.
This year, they didn’t sell much of anything. A coalition called Stop The Deal spent time educating and using media buyers and big advertisers at the event to ask Twitter some basic questions about potential Musk takeover before giving him a guaranteed income for 2023.
Media buyers did ask those questions. Twitter had zero answers or assurances, the presentation imploded and ended shockingly early. Twitter from what I understand basically sold almost nothing and locked in extremely little 2023 revenue.
This means that instead of heading into 2023 with 15-20% of 2023 already secured as they typically would have, Twitter heads into next year with almost none of that. All because of Musk’s red pilled edgelord approach.
Elon Musk has had months to address these concerns or even learn about them. But instead, he’s insisted on antagonizing the very businesses and people that sustain Twitter. Back in May, the groups and companies weren’t calling for a boycott, they were asking basic questions.
My point here is: It’s actually worse than that I think a lot of people even appreciate all because Musk’s conduct and commitments to roll back brand safety and community safeguards essentially obliterated Twitter’s new front sales event that woulda secured 2023 revenue.
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Good thing he has a lot of money to lose
Sounds like he is going to lose more of it
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Good thing he has a lot of money to lose
Sounds like he is going to lose more of it
Even if he did everything right from the time of purchase offer, he overpaid by at least around 30% just to have the impulsive giggle of making a marijuana reference.
It is likely the platform’s total value will decrease significantly in the short term.
That said, Musk is a visionary. He might be successful in creating something new and exciting in the long term that gets him his $$ back out of it.
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Maybe he is definitely a visionary as far as technology is concerned
Im not sure how that translates into
Social media-
I question his smarts. He may have started the companies but it aint like hes programming the rockets. This Twitter stuff looks like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Theres a meme I saw on Twitter of a head of lettuce next to the bird logo. Im not even particularly sure hes a loyal citizen. Hes also a hypocrite who took a bailout. Give me but not thee.
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Agree
Intelligence and social skills are 2 vastly different animals
He has what used to be called Asperger’s (now ‘autism spectrum’). Social skills isn’t one of his strengths.
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Burn it to the ground
Maybe in fact that thought crossed my mind
Lotta cash to lose just to burn it to the ground but if you got money to burn you can do that kind of stuff
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I think if that was his actual goal…buy it to destroy it … he would be much more explicit about it.
Because if Twitter *does* fail now… become smaller, becomes a chronic money loser, loses cultural influence to competitors … Musk is going to look like a loser.
And billionaires with billionaire egos don’t like being thought of as losers.
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I think if that was his actual goal…buy it to destroy is … he would be much more explicit about it.
Because if Twitter *does* fail now… become smaller, becomes a chronic money loser, loses cultural influence to competitors … Musk is going to look like a loser.
And billionaires with billionaire egos don’t like being thought of as losers.
yeah, I don’t think it’s that complicated– take him at his word. He’s quite direct.
In other surprising media news, CNN published a very critical fact check of Biden, the likes of which you would expect to see on Fox News perhaps, but not CNN (link below).
Is this:
(1) left-wing journalism starting to throw Biden under the bus (maybe, b/c there’s been a fair amount of this lately e.g. in NYT as well)
(2) CNN, which is hemorrhaging money, pivoting to the center? Would be great, and why not? They aren’t going to win the far left audience, or obviously the far right audience. Why not try being fair and balanced?
[size=”4″][b]Fact check: Bidens midterms message includes false and misleading claims[/b][/size][/h1]
[link=https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/politics/fact-check-biden-midterms-2022/index.html]https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/politics/fact-check-biden-midterms-2022/index.html[/link]-
They got a new CEO who wants to
Be more news and less opinion orientedIm perfectly fine with that
Im sick of the stupid arguments from both sides
I like debating taxes healthcare policy etc
Really no longer have the stomach for the crazies and the misinformation and the meaningless social issues
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Musk promises a thermonuclear name & shame on Twitter advertisers who balk
That should work like a charm to ease the nervous minds of the corporate ad buyers
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Shhh! Genius at work!
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Musk promises a thermonuclear name & shame on Twitter advertisers who balk
That should work like a charm to ease the nervous minds of the corporate ad buyers
that does seem pretty dumb
actually, buying Twitter seems pretty dumb. Not so sure about the $8/month thing either.
again, I’ve been tempted to bet against Musk so many times– when he was feuding with Warren Buffett I thought he (Musk) came off as a buffoon. And yet, we got SpaceX …-
I think he’s a troll in very much love with himself. Unlike George Costanza, Musk can’t brag he “won a contest.;” hopefully his hand won’t become a claw.
That said, I think he’s been visionary with Paypal, Tesla & SpaceX. I hope he does well with Twit but I don’t really care too much about Twit anyway. Free speech isn’t as simple as giving everyone a soapbox to spew whatever sh1te they like to spread. The problem is that we have a lot of foolish people in the world and a lie, especially one that confirms your biases, conspiracies or weird fantasies spreads faster than the boring or unpalatable truth.-
There are lists alerts floating on Twitter. Ford was a big one for example.
On that election thing. Now the rusky cosmofuks can just pay $8 for say a couple thousand verified accounts. The accounts which the algorithm prioritizes. Or say Q accounts.
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And every day people just say F it – Im
Not paying sheetThen it becomes a vacuum
Then all sponsors leave
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(2) CNN, which is hemorrhaging money, pivoting to the center? Would be great, and why not? They aren’t going to win the far left audience, or obviously the far right audience. Why not try being fair and balanced?
[size=”4″][b]Fact check: Bidens midterms message includes false and misleading claims[/b][/size][/h1]
[link=https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/politics/fact-check-biden-midterms-2022/index.html]https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/05/politics/fact-check-biden-midterms-2022/index.html[/link]Reality is very unkind to Mr Biden.
But Trump is a liar. Lol.
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Reality is very unkind to Mr Biden.
But Trump is a liar. Lol.
Big difference
Biden embellishing his accomplishments is a helluva a lot different than Trump lying about elections lying about Ukraine essentially lying about everything
One of your more dubious apples to orangutans justifications
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Gimme a break. Not liking Biden is no excuse to compare his resume padding to the Liar-in-Chiefs constant boldfaced lies, not only through his administration but the election campaigns pre and post presidency as well as Trumps whole career.
There is no comparison & you do know the difference.
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Again one of fw s more dubious apples to orangutan comparisons
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