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Disney and desantis
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[link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-bets-big-disney-feud-rcna82734]NBC News[/link]
[h1]Ron DeSantis bets big on his Disney feud[/h1] Interviews with voters, along with three polls, show strong GOP support for DeSantis over Disney in their fight, despite skepticism from some donors and strategists.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has heard [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-donors-allies-shakeup-presidential-campaign-2024-rcna81624]plenty of warnings[/link] from donors, supporters and consultants that he’s foolish for going up against Disney. People love Disney World. Waging this public fight is bad for Florida’s economy. Its even worse politics, they say.
But Republicans who would make up the voter base in a presidential primary may see it differently. NBC News interviewed nearly three dozen potential voters, strategists and pollsters, finding a picture of a primary electorate that is skeptical of Disney and supportive of DeSantis calling out the corporate behemoth.…
while there is[b] [/b]the potential for GOP support, donor dissatisfaction exposes a real political risk to the governor should donors turn off the spigot in a heated primary[b] [/b]battle.…
A [link=https://www.unf.edu/coas/porl/_files/polls/statewide/certified.rf.UNF-Mar-Statewide-2023.pdf]University of Northern Florida[/link] poll in March showed both Ron DeSantis and Disney held overall favorability at 50% and 52%, respectively, among all respondents. Among Republicans, however, DeSantis favorability shot up to 87% and Disneys dropped to 27%.
An [link=https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/reutersipsos-poll-americans-say-desantis-punishing-disney-free-speech]Ipsos/Reuters poll [/link]in late April found that 64% of those surveyed believed DeSantis was punishing Disney for free speech. But again, the responses split along party lines, with independents and Democrats siding with Disney. Among Republicans polled, 64% said DeSantis was rightfully rolling back special treatment for the company.[/QUOTE]
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[h2][link=https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3995672-desantis-won-the-first-round-against-disney-he-should-have-walked-away/]DeSantis won the first round against Disney: He should have walked away[/link][/h2]
When Disney had its return of the king moment, a smart leader would have taken the opportunity to invite [link=https://thehill.com/people/bob-iger/]Bob Iger [/link]to the governors mansion, reiterate the point about parental rights and then extend a hand and start fresh. Instead, DeSantis made an enemy of one of the all-time greats.
While the court battles are just beginning, DeSantis has, in many ways, already lost. He appears unhinged, nasty and vindictive just as the presidential race is coming into focus, leading many Republicans to wonder: How is this guy different from Trump? Not surprisingly, his primary rivals are seizing on the moment to [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/19/us/politics/desantis-disney-gop.html]attack him[/link] as a loser.
Ultimately, however, the real losers are the people of Florida. DeSantiss battle against the Mouse has damaged our reputation as a pro-business state, distracted from more important issues and could come with steep economic costs.
A year from now, if the fallout continues, we will all find ourselves wishing that DeSantis had taken Elsas advice.[/QUOTE]
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[link=https://gizmodo.com/bob-iger-florida…tis-1850426229]https://gizmodo.com/bob-i…orida…tis-1850426229[/link]
[b]During an earnings call, the Disney CEO discussed Gov. Ron DeSantis’ ongoing battle against Walt Disney Word’s special district….[/b]…I want to set the record straight on that too. There are about 2,000 special districts in Florida. Most are established to foster investor development, where we were one of them….
…the Daytona Speedway, it has one. So do the Villages, which is a permanent retirement community, and there are countless others…
….But in fact we are the largest taxpayer in Central Florida. We pay more taxes, specifically more real estate taxes, as a result of that special district…
…Im going to finish what is obviously kind of a long answer by asking one question: does the state want us to invest more, employ more people, and pay more taxesor not?
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agree completely with the last two posts on this, especially “… he should have walked away”. DeSantis has handled this terribly. And that’s really concerning for a potential president, b/c it shows a complete lack of the temperament and skillset (wisdom, restraint) needed for a good president.
And I’m certain the pro-business wing of the Republican Party sees it the same way. So basically he’s fighting with Trump over the MAGA wing. Good luck with that.
DeSantis needs to find a way out of the fight with Disney and reinvent himself as a moderate pro-business Republican, which simply may not be who he is. Or IMO he is done and will fade out over the rest of 2023.-
a corollary of this: there’s been a lot of angst about DeSantis being a threat to Biden, esp a few months ago when he was polling better. Were I a Biden campaign staffer I’d probably be worrying less about DeSantis at this point and trying to figure out where a real threat might come from.
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At this point the only real threat to Biden is his ability to seem awake and in control of his faculties. I dont the Republicans can find anyone to beat Trump in a primary
Ive been discussing this with a lot of people who hate Trump and are worried that something bad will happen to Biden before the general election. They would rest a lot easier knowing a younger opponent was at least around as a backup.
One thing he could do is choose a new running mate. Kamala could lose to Trump Im afraid.
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Anyone see Disneys Strange World? Did it really disturb you? Did you feel indoctrinated by the mixed race & LGBTQ of the character.
Only in Florida is a mixed race LGBTQ cartoon character considered indoctrination.
Florida Man becomes Florida Mom on school board. Wonder what disturbed mom more, the mixed race or the LGBTQ of the character.
Florida, where hate comes to live.
[link=https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/15/us/florida-teacher-disney-movie-gay/index.html]https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/15/us/florida-teacher-disney-movie-gay/index.html[/link]
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Groomers!
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Disney scraps plans for campus development & requirement that California employees move to Florida due to ongoing feud from DeSantis.
[link=https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/disney-scraps-lake-nona-florida-campus.html]https://www.cnbc.com/2023…na-florida-campus.html[/link]
Disney will no longer be moving forward with the construction of its Lake Nona, Florida, employee campus.
The company will also no longer be requiring California-based employees to relocate.
The announcement comes amid a bitter feud between the company and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis centered in part around the companys special district and development plans.
Disney
has abandoned plans to open up a new employee campus in Lake Nona, Florida, amid rising tensions with the states governor.Citing changing business conditions and the return of CEO Bob Iger, Josh DAmaro, chairman of Disneys parks, experiences and products division, penned a memo to employees Thursday, announcing that the company will not move forward with construction of the campus and will no longer be asking more than 2,000 California-based employees to relocate to Florida.
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$1 billion of development cancelled…
totally worth to keep wokeness out of Florida!-
Fng idiot
So much for Meatball owning the woke corporations
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Rons answer?
Sour grapes!
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DeSantis on the news this morning before work saying there was “zero chance” he’s backing down on Disney.
And in other news…
[h1][b]Disney Pitches 30-Year Expansion Plan, Dubbed DisneylandForward, To Anaheim Leaders; Projects It Will Create 2,200 Jobs[/b][/h1]
[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadline.com%2F2023%2F05%2Fdisneyland-30-year-expansion-plan-disneylandforward-2200-jobs-1235373774%2F]https://deadline.com/2023/05/disneyl…bs-1235373774/[/link]“In the same week that Disney Parks & Resorts boss Josh DAmaro [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadline.com%2F2023%2F05%2Fdisney-ron-desantis-florida-relocation-response-bob-iger-1235372316%2F]announced the company was abandoning[/link] a new $1 billion employee campus in Orlando, the president of [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadline.com%2Ftag%2Fdisneyland%2F]Disneyland[/link] Resort [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadline.com%2Ftag%2Fken-potrock%2F]Ken Potrock[/link] hosted an OCForum meeting with local business and political leaders in Anaheim to discuss [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.disneylandforward.com%2F]DisneylandForward[/link], the companys 30-year plan for expansion and innovation in the area.
While [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadline.com%2Ftag%2Fdisneylandforward%2F]DisneylandForward[/link] was first introduced in 2021, this week Potrock and other Disney executives revealed new details about the project, including [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ocregister.com%2F2023%2F05%2F17%2Fdisneyland-lays-out-theme-park-expansion-plans-for-next-30-years%2F]a Disney-sponsored economic study[/link] from Cal State Fullerton estimating that, for every $1 billion Disney invests to update and renovate the resort, over 4,000 jobs and $1.1 billion in economic output would be generated during the 4-year construction period. Thereafter, [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Fstory%2F2023-05-18%2Fdisneylandforward-pitches-redevelopment-plans-anaheim]according to the Los Angeles Times[/link], that investment will generate $253 million annually in economic output, $15 million in tax revenue and 2,292 jobs.”
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Preparing to blame someone for his inevitable loss, DeSantis wants the “woke” judge removed.
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I don’t care where you fall on the political spectrum—-this is not a good look for Ron—going after one of the biggest businesses in his state and causing them to pull out of a billion dollar investment in YOUR state. There is no way to spin this positively. I don’t like my politicians going after businesses unless they have a really really good reason. A tweet about a difference in opinion is not a good reason. This particular decision by Ron is costing the state a lot of money and jobs.
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Like the hostage taking re the debt, the question is whether the conservatives will hold DeSantis & Republicans responsible for any negative fallout. As in the past, Im betting no. Unless Florida actually raises taxes on their supporters, they will be cheered on.
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The moderates and independents will, including some moderate republicans. Great opportunity for moderates everywhere.
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I don’t care where you fall on the political spectrum—-this is not a good look for Ron—going after one of the biggest businesses in his state and causing them to pull out of a billion dollar investment in YOUR state. There is no way to spin this positively. I don’t like my politicians going after businesses unless they have a really really good reason. A tweet about a difference in opinion is not a good reason. This particular decision by Ron is costing the state a lot of money and jobs.
Hey, Ron DeSantis may be a fascist … but at least the monorails run on time!
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Bob Igor is a seasoned operator beloved by Wall Street.
He will crush DeSantis. DeSantis looks like a fool to me and Trump will finish him off.
I like Ramaswamy. A Desi representing the GOP would be entertaining.
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Mike Pence hops in the Disney fight: when the governor of Florida decided to launch a full-scale campaign of governmental retribution against Disney, he wasn’t taking a page out of the conservative playbook
[link=https://reason.com/2023/06/26/confidence-in-market-principles/]https://reason.com/2023/0…-in-market-principles/[/link]
[h1]Confidence in Market Principles[/h1] [h2]Why are some Republicans turning their backs on the free market principles weve advocated for generations?[/h2] [link=https://reason.com/people/mike-pence/]MIKE PENCE[/link]
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[link=https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/12/disney-extends-ceo-bob-igers-contract-through-2026-two-years-longer-than-planned.html]
Disney extends CEO Bob Iger’s contract through 2026, two years longer than planned
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[h1]Disney Rejects Ron DeSantis Desire To Kill Retaliation Suit; The Governor Seeks To Evade Responsibility For His Actions, Mouse House Says[/h1]
[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadline.com%2F2023%2F07%2Fdisney-lawsuit-ron-desantis-bob-iger-dismissal-response-1235448642%2F]https://deadline.com/2023/07/disney-…se-1235448642/[/link]
Disney didnt mince words.
This case presents the fundamental question whether the Governor and the State can escape accountability for their open defiance of our Nations most cherished liberties, Disney said Wednesday in its opposition to state defendants motion to dismiss ([link=https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/disney-desantis-dismissal-opp-july-26.pdf]read it here[/link]).
The Governor seeks to evade responsibility for his actions on a narrower ground, asserting that a governor cannot be held officially liable for implementing, administering, and enforcing state laws that punish residents for political statements violating a state-prescribed speech code. ”
The motion seeks dismissal on Article III standing, sovereign-immunity, and legislative-immunity grounds, but those principles have no application here.
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Back to the Disney has much lawyers than the state of Florida theme.
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[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2023%2F08%2F04%2Fpolitics%2Fkfile-desantis-appointee-discredited-research-white-slaves%2Findex.html]DeSantis appointee to Disney board taught seminar using discredited research claiming White people were slaves in America | CNN Politics[/link]
Only the best people
Peris claims are based on fabricated material that has circled the Internet over the last two decades and has been the subject of repeated debunkings from news organizations like the [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F03%2F17%2Fus%2Firish-slaves-myth.html]New York Times[/link], [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Farticle%2Fuk-factcheck-slaves%2Ffact-check-irish-slaves-meme-repeats-discredited-article-idUSKBN23Q1LQ]Reuters[/link], the [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fapnews.com%2Farticle%2F920e1c738df04555bccd56c09770b36d]Associated Press[/link], [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Ffact-check%2Firish-slaves-early-america%2F]Snopes[/link], and frustrated historians many of whom [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Flimerick1914.medium.com%2Fopen-letter-to-irish-central-irish-examiner-and-scientific-american-about-their-irish-slaves-3f6cf23b8d7f]signed an open letter[/link] in 2016 disputing the claims.
Even [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20200416202225%2Fhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalresearch.ca%2Fthe-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves%2F31076]the article[/link] Peri cited as evidence was updated before he used it in the seminar to note it contained a number of factual errors.
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[link=https://deadline.com/2023/08/ron-desantis-disney-lawsuit-1235519441/amp/]https://deadline.com/2023…awsuit-1235519441/amp/[/link]
[h1]Ron DeSantis Says He Has Moved On And Disney Should Drop Its Lawsuit Against Him[/h1]
[i]Last Call [/i]host Brian Sullivan asked DeSantis why he doesnt just pick up the phone and call Disney CEO [link=https://deadline.com/tag/bob-iger/]Bob Iger[/link] to resolve the dispute. Weve basically moved on, DeSantis said. They are suing the state of Florida. They are going to lose that lawsuit. So what I would say is, Drop the lawsuit. You have the state that even CNBC ranks as number one of all 50 states for economy.
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DeSantis told CNBC that the special district was a case of giving extraordinary privileges to one special company at the exclusion of everyone else. But Disneys lawsuits includes numerous examples where the governor engineered efforts to target the company specifically, including legislation aimed at regulating its monorail system, while boasting that the company has been silent on social issues.
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A Disney spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment on DeSantis latest statements.
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[link=https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1691204045732757504]https://twitter.com/CNBC/.atus/1691204045732757504[/link]
I’m pretty sure that Disney’s legal team thinks they have a good case … I can’t see any reason why they would fold so long as DeSantis doesn’t revoke his prior actions
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Please drop the lawsuit, huh. Also in what world is Florida the number one economy? The one where California, Texas and New York don’t exist.
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DeSantis ally has conflict-of-interest by serving on Disney district, legal opinion states
An ally of Gov. Ron DeSantis violated Florida law when he took a job overseeing Disney Worlds district in Central Florida while also serving as chair of the state ethics commission, according to a legal opinion released Thursday.
Glen Gilzean must now choose between remaining administrator of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District or keeping his position on the Florida ethics commission.
[link=https://ethics.state.fl.us/AboutUs/Index.aspx]State law prohibits[/link] public employees from serving on the ethics commission an issue first raised by the investigative [link=https://www.floridabulldog.org/2023/08/state-ethics-commission-chair-gilzean-400000-conflict-of-interest/]news organization Florida Bulldog[/link]. It was initially unclear whether Gilzeans job as administrator a job that comes with a $400,000 salary qualified as public employment.[/QUOTE]
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$400k as a admin to the tourism board. That’s like a Roger Godel NFL type cake walk job and benefits.
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Disney sues Florida –
[link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Finsidethemagic.net%2F2023%2F08%2Fdisney-sues-gov-desantis-board-florida-violating-ld1%2F]https://insidethemagic.net/2023/08/d…violating-ld1/[/link]
[h2]Disney Sues DeSantis Board for Violating Constitution[/h2]Quote:
The Walt Disney Company has just filed a countersuit against the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District for violation of the Florida Constitution. This 55-page filing denies the District Boards claims and accuses the board of Breach of Contract, as well as violating the state constitution.Disney asks the judge to declare Senate Bill 1604: Land Use and Development Regulations unconstitutional.
[link=https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/18/disney-seeks-damages-from-desantis-board-for-contract-breach.html]Disney goes on offense in DeSantis boards lawsuit, seeks damages for breach of contract[/link][/h2] -
[link=https://apnews.com/article/disney-desantis-florida-lgbtq-lawsuits-748a7245986107a13841dc12c12be188]https://apnews.com/articl…6107a13841dc12c12be188[/link]
[h1]Disney seeks to narrow the scope of its lawsuit against DeSantis to free speech claim[/h1]
Disney wants to narrow the scope of its [link=https://apnews.com/article/disney-desantis-florida-lgbtq-theme-park-c6e20b56fbf68f9bda1dadeed2284120]federal lawsuit[/link] against Gov. Ron DeSantis to just a free speech claim that the Florida governor retaliated against the company because of its public opposition to a state law banning classroom lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity in early grades.
Disney on Friday asked a federal judge for permission to file an amended complaint focusing just on the First Amendment claim and leaving to [link=https://apnews.com/article/disney-desantis-lgbtq-florida-47bc50df7aa46efe809a35adaa661c58]another, state-court lawsuit[/link] questions about the legality of agreements the company signed with Disney Worlds governing district, then-made up of Disney supporters. The agreements were signed before DeSantis and the GOP-controlled Florida Legislature took over the governmental body in the spring.
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Disney faces concrete, imminent, and ongoing injury as a result of CFTODs new powers and composition, which are being used to punish Disney for expressing a political view, said Disneys federal court motion.[/QUOTE]
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[link=https://apnews.com/article/disney-desantis-florida-lgbtq-lawsuits-748a7245986107a13841dc12c12be188]https://apnews.com/articl…6107a13841dc12c12be188[/link]
[h1]Disney seeks to narrow the scope of its lawsuit against DeSantis to free speech claim[/h1]
Disney wants to narrow the scope of its [link=https://apnews.com/article/disney-desantis-florida-lgbtq-theme-park-c6e20b56fbf68f9bda1dadeed2284120]federal lawsuit[/link] against Gov. Ron DeSantis to just a free speech claim that the Florida governor retaliated against the company because of its public opposition to a state law banning classroom lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity in early grades.
Disney on Friday asked a federal judge for permission to file an amended complaint focusing just on the First Amendment claim and leaving to [link=https://apnews.com/article/disney-desantis-lgbtq-florida-47bc50df7aa46efe809a35adaa661c58]another, state-court lawsuit[/link] questions about the legality of agreements the company signed with Disney Worlds governing district, then-made up of Disney supporters. The agreements were signed before DeSantis and the GOP-controlled Florida Legislature took over the governmental body in the spring.
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Disney faces concrete, imminent, and ongoing injury as a result of CFTODs new powers and composition, which are being used to punish Disney for expressing a political view, said Disneys federal court motion.[/QUOTE]
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tl;dr version: Disney wants to groom little kids.
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tl;dr version: Disney wants to groom little kids.
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Because “groomed” children like to visit & watch/subscribe to Disney more???
Please explain how this works, acpce1. If you explained I’m sure we’d all see your point of view & agree.
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