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DHS report: Concern for Right Wing Domestic terrorism in the US
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[h1][b]Michigan GOP Leader Advised Right Wing Militia tied to Whitmer Kidnapping Plot[/b][/h1]
Just a month before 13 men were charged by state and federal law enforcement for a far-right plot to allegedly kidnap and execute Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey (R) had a sitdown conversation with leaders of three Michigan-based militias, [link=https://www.michiganadvance.com/2021/01/17/new-michigan-gop-senate-leader-advised-militias-on-messaging-says-theyve-gotten-a-bad-rap/]Michigan Advance[/link] reports.
Said Shirkey in an interview on Sept. 10: I was in Lansing and members the leaders, the so-called leaders of three of the groups met in my office and we talked about their messaging, their purpose, what they are trying to accomplish and how they could improve their message.
He added: It was very fascinating and theyre not uniquely different than you and I. They bleed red, white and blue, but they feel like they are not being heard.
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“Good people”
I want to be heard so I’ll get my guns, kidnap my political enemies & put on a political trial. It’s the reason for the 2nd Amendment, insurrection. This is what the GOP stands for.-
Americans are more of a terrorist threat to America than foreign terrorism.
And the GOP supports insurrection.
Sad. Appalling.
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Said Shirkey in an interview on Sept. 10: I was in Lansing and members the leaders, the so-called leaders of three of the groups met in my office and we talked about their messaging, their purpose, what they are trying to accomplish and how they could improve their message.He added: It was very fascinating and theyre not uniquely different than you and I. They bleed red, white and blue, but they feel like they are not being heard.
Improving their messaging. I guess murdering the governor is not the problem, the messaging is.
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[h1][b]One In Five People Charged In Capitol Attack have Served In Military[/b][/h1]
An [link=https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/958915267/nearly-one-in-five-defendants-in-capitol-riot-cases-served-in-the-military]NPR analysis[/link] has found that nearly 1 in 5 people charged over their alleged involvement in the attack on the U.S. Capitol appear to have a military history.
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Deja vu, Timothy McVeigh and where he apparently learned his extremism.
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/535438-white-house-launches-sweeping-review-of-domestic-terror-threats]White House launches sweeping review of domestic terror threats
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Biden has asked the Office of the Director of National Intelligence to develop a comprehensive threat assessment in coordination with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security.
The key point here is that we want fact-based analysis on which we can base policies, Psaki said. So this is really the first step in the process, and well rely on the appropriate law enforcement and intelligence officials to provide that analysis.
Bidens National Security Council (NSC) has been directed to undertake a review about how the government can better share information about potential domestic terror threats, deter radicalization and disrupt extremist networks.
The NSC will also lead a governmentwide effort to crack down on evolving threats and radicalization, with an eye on the role that social media plays in fomenting extremism.[/QUOTE]
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[h1]Militiaman Who Plotted to Kidnap Whitmer Pleads Guilty[/h1]
One of the Michigan militiamen accused of conspiring to overthrow the state government, kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, and put her on trial for treason before Election Day has pleaded guilty in the foiled plot, the [link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/ty-garbin-michigan-militiaman-who-planned-to-kidnap-gretchen-whitmer-pleads-guilty-and-turns-on-his-pals]Daily Beast[/link] reports.
Ty Garbin has also agreed to take a polygraph test and testify against his co-conspirators.
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[link=https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/national-terrorism-advisory-system-bulletin-january-27-2021]https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/…lletin-january-27-2021[/link]
[b]DHS Issues Travel Advisory over US Domestic Terror Threat
[/b]The Acting Secretary of Homeland Security has issued a National Terrorism Advisory System (NTAS) Bulletin due to a heightened threat environment across the United States, which DHS believes will persist in the weeks following the successful Presidential Inauguration. Information suggests that some ideologically-motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition, as well as other perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, could continue to mobilize to incite or commit violence.
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MAGA murderer Kyle Rittenhouse, out on $2M bail before his trial for first degree murder, was filmed yesterday in a WI bar drinking with a group of Proud Boys and taking selfies with them while flashing white supremacist symbols.
The Kenosha DA is now petitioning the judge to alter his bail terms to prohibit him from drinking, being in places where alcohol is served, and associating with white supremacist groups.
Judge modifies Rittenhouse bail terms as requested by prosecution.
Also, [link=https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/01/27/kyle-rittenhouse-mother-police-video/]new video released by the police[/link] shows that during their first interview with Rittenhouse, the MAGA murderer and his mom were more worried about his social media profile than the two people he killed.
[link=https://www.wpr.org/judge-modifies-rittenhouses-bail-conditions]https://www.wpr.org/judge…houses-bail-conditions[/link]
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Is he even old enough to drink? It does look like hes not very remorseful. Should look good in front of a jury.
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Is he even old enough to drink? It does look like hes not very remorseful. Should look good in front of a jury.
WI drinking age is 12 *
That explains a couple of things.
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I dont think thats correct. There was a federal drinking age law from like the 80s that set it to 21. It used to vary by state. I can remember my cousin Jer telling me about them buying 3.2 beer in high school.
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[h1]How Trumps Focus on Antifa Distracted Attention From the Far-Right Threat[/h1] [i]Federal law enforcement shifted resources last year in response to Donald Trumps insistence that the radical left endangered the country. Meanwhile, right-wing extremism was building ominously.[/i]
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/us/politics/trump-right-wing-domestic-terrorism.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/30/u…gtype=Homepage[/link]
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I dont think thats correct. There was a federal drinking age law from like the 80s that set it to 21. It used to vary by state. I can remember my cousin Jer telling me about them buying 3.2 beer in high school.
The prosecutor in Rittenhouse case stated that they are not alleging that he did anything illegal by drinking in a bar. Apparently he was there with someone considered his legal guardian and under WI law that makes it ok if he had a beer.
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[link=https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/northwest/idaho/article248885559.html]FCC fines neo-Nazi $9.9 million for racist, anti-Semitic robocalls[/link]
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[h1][link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/world/canada/canada-proud-boys-terror-group.html]Canada Formally Declares Proud Boys a Terrorist Group[/link][/h1]
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[link=https://www.stripes.com/news/us/defense-secretary-will-order-military-wide-stand-down-to-address-extremism-1.660899]https://www.stripes.com/n…ess-extremism-1.660899[/link]
[b]Secretary of Defense will order military-wide stand down to address right wing extremism[/b]
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin will direct a military-wide stand down to address extremism within the ranks he told top military leaders in a meeting Wednesday, according to his top spokesman.
Austin wants all military units to take an operational pause to discuss extremism as he works to grasp the full scope of the issue and better address the longstanding problem, John Kirby, the Pentagons chief spokesman, told reporters Wednesday. The pauses are expected to occur within the next 60 days, but Austin has yet to determine how the stand downs are to be completed, Kirby said.
The intent is to reinforce the [Pentagons] policies and values with respect to this sort of behavior and to have a dialogue with the men and women of the force and to get their views on what they are seeing at their level, Kirby said. He wants commands to take the necessary time to … speak with troops about the scope of this problem. It’s a two-way conversation.
Austin spoke frankly with the acting service secretaries and uniformed service chiefs about his concerns about extremism in the military, including white supremacism, said Kirby, who attended the meeting. The new defense secretary, who is the first Black leader of the Defense Department, wants the service leaders to better grasp how pervasive the issue is within their formations and work with leaders to stamp it out, Kirby said.
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I was just reading about in the Navy someone hung a noose on a bunk. None of the officers handled it. Embarrassing story. Time to get in ship shape.
I also think we need to worry about preparedness. Not sure were running a well oiled machine thats ready to kick the crap out of an enemy.
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[link=https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/admitted-kenosha-killer-kyle-rittenhouse-eludes-the-court-as-prosecutors-seek-new-arrest-warrant-and-increased-bond-money/]https://lawandcrime.com/h…-increased-bond-money/[/link]
[b]Prosecutors Couldnt Find Kyle Rittenhouse, So They Sought a New Arrest Warrant. The Story Just Got Weirder. [/b]
In sum, the defense says it [i]intentionally[/i] wrote the wrong address on the release papers after being advised to do so by local law enforcement. This, the defense claims, was to protect the location of a safe house for Rittenhouse.
While I was completing this form, I was approached by a Kenosha Police Department Captain, who offered his assistance, Pierce continued [emphasis in original]. I asked the Kenosha Police Captain what address to put on the form. The Kenosha Police Captain told me that I absolutely should [i]not[/i] provide the address of the physical location of the Rittenhouse Safe House on the form, but to instead provide his home address in Antioch, Illinois.
The motion also contains an email exchange from late November 2020 that outlines a previous denial of the defenses request to file a change of address for Rittenhouse under seal due to Wisconsins proud history of open records and government transparency.
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[link=https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/02/04/beijing-biden-not-my-president-troops-social-media-posts-spotlight-after-capitol-riots.html]https://www.military.com/…ter-capitol-riots.html[/link]
[h1]’Beijing Biden Is Not My President:’ Troops’ Social Media Posts in Spotlight After Capitol Riots[/h1]
“End of god damned story,” wrote Brinson, identified as being assigned to the 691st Cyberspace Operations Squadron, part of Air Combat Command located at [link=http://www.military.com/base-guide/ramstein-air-base]Ramstein Air Base[/link], Germany. “A letter from JCIS [sic] does not negate the events that stain this election, or answer glaring questions about selective application of law, something that IS constitutionally, ethically, morally, and LEGALLY deplorable.”
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Across social media, however, some U.S. service members have defiantly posted in support of former President Donald Trump, condemned Biden and spread political conspiracy theories. While the military has worked to discipline those whose public posts violate political speech rules and reminded troops to think before they share, some say recent events have exposed gaps in the services’ social media policies and warn that order and discipline could suffer if they aren’t addressed.
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Rep. Jackie Speier, a California Democrat who serves as chairwoman of the House Armed Services Personnel Subcommittee, is calling for the Pentagon to thoroughly investigate military recruits through their social media pages.
On his personal Facebook page, Brinson, the airman first class, stipulated that Donald Trump is his commander in chief despite the Nov. 3 election results. “The people of the United States are the ultimate authority that I answer to. Congress is not. [Black Lives Matter] is not. Beijing Biden is not,” he wrote on Jan. 7, a post recorded in one of several screenshots taken by Military.com.
“I do not condemn the people at Capitol Hill,” Brinson added, referencing the insurrectionists. That post has also been deleted.
…Force looked into posts made by Brinson, the airman who wrote that he will never accept Biden as president. An Air Force spokesperson at Ramstein said that, while an investigation into Brinson’s statements made online was closed, leadership had contacted him and are “in the process of determining an appropriate response to his online behavior.”
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[h1][b]Bipartisan Support Emerges for Domestic Terrorism Legislation[/b][/h1]
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/capitol-riot-domestic-terror-legislation/2021/02/04/f43ec214-6733-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html]Washington Post[/link]: An apparent bipartisan majority of the House Homeland Security Committee on Thursday endorsed the idea of new laws to address domestic terrorism in the wake of last months riot at the U.S. Capitol, as experts warned such internal threats would plague the country for decades to come.
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[link=https://www.npr.org/2021/02/11/966498544/a-scary-survey-finding-4-in-10-republicans-say-political-violence-may-be-necessa]https://www.npr.org/2021/…iolence-may-be-necessa[/link]
[h1]A ‘Scary’ Survey Finding: 4 In 10 Republicans Say Political Violence May Be Necessary[/h1]
The mob that attacked the U.S. Capitol may have been a fringe group of extremists, but politically motivated violence has the support of a significant share of the U.S. public, according to [link=https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/after-the-ballots-are-counted-conspiracies-political-violence-and-american-exceptionalism/]a new survey[/link] by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI).
The level of distrust among Republicans evident in the survey was such that about eight in 10 said the current political system is “stacked against conservatives and people with traditional values.” A majority agreed with the statement, “The traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it.”
“If I believe something, I may act on it, and I may not,” Cox says. “We shouldn’t run out and say, ‘Oh, my goodness, 40% of Republicans are going to attack the Capitol,’ But under the right circumstances, if you have this worldview, then you are more inclined to act in a certain way if you are presented with that option.”[/QUOTE]
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Begs the question, what do they believe is traditional American way of life that violence is required in their minds?
& hardly surprising considering the escalating extremist rhetoric & displays & support of extremist right wing violent groups from the GOP for years now. Let me guess, guns & fundamentalist Christian-Nationalist values are at play here. Like we saw at the Capital insurrectionists on Jan 6.-
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Begs the question, what do they believe is traditional American way of life that violence is required in their minds?
Dominant white hetero-normative, traditional patriarchal, Christian culture.
It is about the fight for cultural, political, and economic power between old, white, rural people and younger, browner, urban people.-
Yes. At least we know it has nothing to do with race and sex.
<SARCASM>
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I’ll offer this. They believe in intolerance and bigotry as a way of life and violence as a means to a solution. They are vulnerable to paranoia, fake news and conspiracy theories. And they’ve been emboldened to come out into the open.
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I’ll offer this. They believe in intolerance and bigotry as a way of life and violence as a means to a solution. They are vulnerable to paranoia, fake news and conspiracy theories. And they’ve been emboldened to come out into the open.
I put it in the Evangelical thread… but that new AEI survey has white conservative Christians as particularly susceptible to Qanon / conspiracy thought.
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Republicans are normalizing, they are mainstreaming, what counterterrorism experts would say is violent extremism: that it is acceptable to use inflammatory rhetoric and encourage violence to achieve your ends and it is acceptable to engage in public life through conspiracy theories.
Elizabeth Neumann, former Trump Deputy Chief of Staff At Department of Homeland Security
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Republican constituents.
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[h3][link=https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/politics/capitol-riot-oath-keepers-stewart-rhodes-soh/index.html]Oath Keepers leader declares Biden “regime” to be “illegitimate” as his followers are being sought by the FBI[/link][/h3]“You gotta to declare everything that comes out of King Biden’s mouth as illegitimate — null and void from the inception because he is not a legitimate president.”
Rhodes is still peddling the falsehood that the election was illegitimate. He says Biden’s administration and supporters in Congress shouldbe seen asan occupying enemy force and issues warnings about what he claims are 365 million armed patriots ready to “rise up.”
“There is going to be resistance.The only question is whatwill be the spark,” Rhodes said in a January 30 interview on Infowars, a media organization that is one of the leading purveyors of conspiracy theories in the US. “They keep pushing,” he said of who he calls “leftists.” “That is whyit’simportant… Let them be the ones who draw first blood. Then you defend.”[/QUOTE]
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Hopefully! (being naïvely optimistic here) this Republican/Trump insurrection will be the end of “both sides….” BS now from the media and individuals who can’t manage a rational argument to defend Trump/Republican actions.
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Lot of hate in this thread.
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I read just from the top of this page …. I’m curious to see what has been posted that you believe is “hate” ??
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Accusing half of the country of essentially being evil idiots is pretty hateful.
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I don’t see such an accusation anywhere on that page. It is simply a statement of fact that the threat of domestic terrorism primarily comes from the American right.
That’s not hateful. That’s not an accusation against “half of the country” … it is plainly stating that people with a certain political/religious/cultural profile happen to be more likely to be involved in domestic terrorism and the support for Trump/ Republican politics has a big Venn diagram overlap.
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It’s post after post of accusing the entire GOP of being terrorists, extremists, etc.
Also, it’s NOT a statement of fact that the threat of domestic terrorism primarily comes from the right. There is ongoing antifa and BLM attacks almost everyday somewhere in the US. You’re doing that thing CNN and MSNBC does where you just keep repeating something you want to be fact until people accept it as such despite it not being true.
Was it right wing terrorism that occupied a portion of an American city? There are so many examples.
[link=https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/us/dc-police-arrests-blm-capitol-insurrection-invs/index.html]https://www.cnn.com/2021/…ection-invs/index.html[/link]
[link=https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/ny/blm-riots-in-nyc-cops-injured-police-cars-damaged/2021/02/14/]https://www.jewishpress.c…rs-damaged/2021/02/14/[/link]
[link=https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/09/08/new-study-shows-majority-of-blm-protests-turned-violent-n2575801]https://townhall.com/tips…urned-violent-n2575801[/link]
[link=https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/blm-mobs-smash-windows-in-residential-homes-during-wisconsin-protests/]https://nypost.com/2020/1…ng-wisconsin-protests/[/link]
[link=https://nypost.com/2021/01/22/portland-seattle-residents-slam-weak-response-to-antifa/]https://nypost.com/2021/0…ak-response-to-antifa/[/link]
[link=https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/09/16/the-financial-cost-of-recent-riots-has-been-tabulated-n2576294]https://townhall.com/tips…een-tabulated-n2576294[/link]
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So … lots of posts does not equal hate.
Posting a bunch anecdotes that show violence that *isn’t* from the Right doesn’t refute the fact that the violence is indeed primarily from the right.
The actual data as well as the statements of US law enforcement and intelligence experts has been consistent that right wing domestic terrorism is now the major threat. It was the basis of the formation of this thread and has only increased since its original posting.
No one claimed that *all* violence came from the right. No one claimed that *all* people with right leaning politics were violent. – You chose to fill in the gaps yourself.-
Lets get another thing straight
Occupying a block in a medium sized American city is not that same as an armed mob going to the nations capital with zip ties weapons and building a gallows trying to hunt down the speaker of the house and the Vice President to kill them
Republicans are the party of false equivalency
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Republicans are the party of false equivalency
Sadly true.
Impeachment thread — “Whatabout Kamala?!?!”
Right wing terror thread – “Whatabout Antifa?!?!?”
Trump Legacy thread- “Whatabout Obama ?!?!?!?!?!”
Trump Russia thread – “Whatabout Hunter Biden’s laptop ?!?!?!?!!!?!!??”
Trump bribes pornstar thread – “Whatabout Joe touching that woman’s shoulder?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!”
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Trump bribes pornstar thread – “Whatabout Joe touching that woman’s shoulder?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!”
And did you see the photo of Jill Biden leaning over and toughing Joe’s shoulders with both hands? IN PUBLIC?
I will not post porn but you can look it up yourself.
Public morality has certainly taken a nose dive.
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The thing missing from the complaint about “hate” is the fact that so many Trumpers actually believe the Q-Anon idiocy and the “stolen election” idiocy and are now censuring those Republican senators for actually voting their conscience by voting for Trump’s impeachment conviction and then getting responses from GOP leaders that these Senators were not elected to “do the right thing” or to “vote their conscience” or personal morality.
And while we are on the topic of “hate,” why so silent on the hatred required to join an insurrection and threaten violence against Senators and Congressmen and the Vice President and actually violently attack the people defending the Capital? People died, but that’s not as bad as calling these people violent idiots because the insurrectionists aren’t hateful but criticizing them is hateful?
Something missing in cub’s “analysis.”
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[link=https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html]https://www.axios.com/rio…b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html[/link]
And that’s 5 months ago.
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[link=https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/539530-white-christian-nationalism-and-the-next-wave-of-political-violence]https://thehill.com/opini…-of-political-violence[/link]
[b]White Christian nationalism and the next wave of political violence[/b]
[i]Rebecca Sager, Associate professor of sociology at Loyola Marymount University. Brie Loskota, Executive director of the USC Center for Religion and Civic Culture.[/i]
There are two options now: The Republican Party can build a new wall higher and thicker between the GOP leadership and armed radical insurrectionist groups; or the insurrectionist groups will overrun the Republican Party in an attempt to make another play for power. Either scenario is depressing. Like the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which recently issued a domestic [link=https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dhs-federal-alert-system-1st-time-year-warn/story?id=75517886]terrorism alert[/link], we foresee more political violence in our future.
In the first scenario, these movements will resume targeting the federal government as a hostile entity, leading to violence like the [link=https://newrepublic.com/article/140467/oklahoma-city-exposes-origins-todays-white-nationalism]Oklahoma City bombing[/link]. In the second scenario, white Christian nationalists, emboldened by the embrace of the Republican establishment, will increasingly target Democrats, like the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/us/ty-garbin-whitmer-kidnapping-plot.html]attempted kidnapping[/link] of Michigans Democratic Gov. [link=https://thehill.com/people/gretchen-whitmer]Gretchen Whitmer[/link].…
Many people, including numerous high-level Democrats, want to believe these outbursts of insurrectionist fervor will stop if Trumps sphere of influence shrinks. This optimism betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of an underlying problem of which Trump is only a symptom. With [link=https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-helped-take-extremist-views-from-the-fringes-of-society-to-a-mob-attacking-the-capitol/]78 percent[/link] of Republican voters believing that Trump really won the election, why would the Republican Party want to alter course?
Trump has simply exposed a tendency toward racially tinged authoritarian nationalism that was already present in American society and, in particular, in the Republican Party. Arthur Millers [link=https://www.cusd80.com/cms/lib6/AZ01001175/Centricity/Domain/4860/The%20Crucible_full%20text_adobe_format.pdf]words[/link] in The Crucible tell a timeless truth, We are only what we always were, but naked now.[/QUOTE]
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[link=https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2021/02/22/white-supremacists-and-neo-nazis-becoming-a-transnational-threat-un-secretary-general-says/?utm_campaign=forbes&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Gordie&sh=3c84fb53a54e]https://www.forbes.com/si…ie&sh=3c84fb53a54e[/link]
[h1]White Supremacists And Neo-Nazis Becoming A Transnational Threat, UN Secretary-General Says[/h1]
In an address to the U.N. Human Rights Council (UNHRC), Guterres said that the far-right extremist movements represent the number one internal security threat in several countries but warned that they are also becoming transnational threats, Reuters [link=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-un-rights/white-supremacy-a-transnational-threat-u-n-chief-warns-idUSKBN2AM0NX?il=0]reported[/link].
Without naming anyone, Guterres expressed worry that these hate groups are being cheered on by people in positions of responsibility in ways that were considered unimaginable not long ago.
Noting that the groups have taken advantage of the pandemic, Guterres added that deadly misinformation about Covid-19 has been amplified including by those in power.[/QUOTE]
