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  • Santorum is out!

    Posted by Unknown Member on April 10, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    [link=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57411949-503544/rick-santorum-ends-bid-for-gop-nomination/]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57411949-503544/rick-santorum-ends-bid-for-gop-nomination/[/link]
     
    The race is on!  Mitt’s gonna kick Obama’s butt.

    btomba_77 replied 3 years, 1 month ago 8 Members · 77 Replies
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  • Unknown Member

    Deleted User
    April 10, 2012 at 1:07 pm

    I’m glad to see that redneck gone.
     
    Now it’s down to Lucifer vs. Satan.
     
    Mitts will put his lead foot on the gas pedal as we accelerate over the debt cliff; but at least that narcissistic fck Obama will be out of office and the libtards can take their “mandate” and shove it up their collective as*.

    • Unknown Member

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      April 10, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      Romney’s aligned himself with the Ryan plan. I think that this will serve him well in terms of substance and credibility.  It is getting harder to take a responsible position and still win, because 50% of Americans pay no Federal income tax, yet get to vote themselves more and more goodies. This may be the last time that the productive tax-paying 50%’ers gets to out-vote the growing and now near- majority non-contributing looters.

      • jquinones8812_854

        Member
        April 10, 2012 at 1:58 pm

        Obama is up by a few points, and hasn’t had virtually any attacks on him yet.
         
        This is going to be a close election between two very flawed candidates. 

        • Unknown Member

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          April 10, 2012 at 2:08 pm

          Quote from MISTRAD

          Obama is up by a few points, and hasn’t had virtually any attacks on him yet.

          This is going to be a close election between two very flawed candidates. 

           
          He’s up in the WaPo poll which is an embarassment by how much it oversampled Democrats. 
          [link=http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/10/wapoabc-poll-adds-seven-points-to-dem-advantage-in-sample/]http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/10/wapoabc-poll-adds-seven-points-to-dem-advantage-in-sample/[/link]
           In the real polls. he’s down or at best even. 

          • eyoab2011_711

            Member
            April 10, 2012 at 2:13 pm

            Ryan’s “plan” is a pathetic joke that make Obama’s deficit look like child’s play.  Cutting taxes more that’s the ticket

            • Unknown Member

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              April 10, 2012 at 2:21 pm

              Quote from Thor

              Ryan’s “plan” is a pathetic joke that make Obama’s deficit look like child’s play.  Cutting taxes more that’s the ticket

              I believe that it was Georgr Santayana who stated that:”Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.  Seems like the Democrats suffer from amnesia.
               
               We have a template for how to create a booming jobs recovery … Ronald Reagan.  He did it by cutting taxes and stimulating the private sector.  This is the basic premise of the Ryan plan.  It will work. 

              • eyoab2011_711

                Member
                April 10, 2012 at 2:31 pm

                Do we need to review how many times Reagan raised taxes????  Or are you arguing we should go back to Reagan era tax rates????
                 
                Bush tax cuts and lack of regulation..how did that work out for us???  :”Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”. 

                • jquinones8812_854

                  Member
                  April 10, 2012 at 2:37 pm

                  None of this changes the fact that the economy still sucks.  Now, Romney may be a flawed, boring candidate, but the question remains:  is the economy good enough to re-elect Obama?
                   
                  Nobody, anywhere, has an answer to that.  And we really won’t know until at least October.  

                • Unknown Member

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                  April 10, 2012 at 2:38 pm

                  Both of these bozos suck.  Obama is an idiot who likes to tax and spend.  Romney will be no different.
                   
                  Anyone wants to make a friendly wager that the national debt will be in excess of 20 trillion 4 years from now?

                  • jquinones8812_854

                    Member
                    April 10, 2012 at 2:55 pm

                    Quote from BarelyPassed

                    Both of these bozos suck.  Obama is an idiot who likes to tax and spend.  Romney will be no different.

                    Anyone wants to make a friendly wager that the national debt will be in excess of 20 trillion 4 years from now?

                     
                    I wouldn’t take that bet if you tied me to the cross.  I really have little faith in one candidate, and no faith in the other.  

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 10, 2012 at 3:01 pm

                      I don’t share the skepticism about Romney.  Jack Welch, the legendary GE CEO said this about Mitt Romney: “In my lifetime, [i]Mitt Romney[/i] is the most qualified leader I’ve ever seen run for president of the United States,”

                • Unknown Member

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                  April 10, 2012 at 2:48 pm

                  The Bush tax cuts actually led to a strong recovery. lest you forget.  As for the regulatory environment that led to the financial crisis in 2007, you may want to direct your attention to Barney Franks and the Democrat-sponsored Community Reinvestment act.
                   
                  BTW, Reagan lowered the top tax bracket from 50% to 28%.  That triggered the largest economic and jobs recovery in history. 20 million new jobs net-net.

              • odayjassim1978_476

                Member
                April 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm

                well given Mitts flip flop from MA Romneycare and pro choice

                Quote from aldadoc

                Quote from Thor

                Ryan’s “plan” is a pathetic joke that make Obama’s deficit look like child’s play.  Cutting taxes more that’s the ticket

                I believe that it was Georgr Santayana who stated that:”Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.  Seems like the Democrats suffer from amnesia.

                We have a template for how to create a booming jobs recovery … Ronald Reagan.  He did it by cutting taxes and stimulating the private sector.  This is the basic premise of the Ryan plan.  It will work. 

                • jquinones8812_854

                  Member
                  April 10, 2012 at 3:36 pm

                  Oh, Romney is qualified…far more than the current occupant. 
                   
                  How good a President he would be?  I have no idea.  

                  • eyoab2011_711

                    Member
                    April 10, 2012 at 4:16 pm

                    If Romney is qualified so is a baked potato.  Can’t run a country by outsourcing jobs.  I’ll take the guy that has an interest in changing in the status quo and has an interest in reigning in the abuses of Wall Street any day.  Then again if Romney runs the country like he did Massachusetts there will be no difference.  If he runs the country as the Cons wish him to we are in deep deep trouble

                    • jquinones8812_854

                      Member
                      April 10, 2012 at 4:30 pm

                      Quote from Thor

                      If Romney is qualified so is a baked potato.  Can’t run a country by outsourcing jobs.  I’ll take the guy that has an interest in changing in the status quo and has an interest in reigning in the abuses of Wall Street any day.  Then again if Romney runs the country like he did Massachusetts there will be no difference.  If he runs the country as the Cons wish him to we are in deep deep trouble

                      Obama = baked potato, I guess. He is certainly one man in this country less qualified than Romney. 

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 10, 2012 at 4:35 pm

                      Quote from Thor

                       I’ll take the guy that has an interest in changing in the status quo and has an interest in reigning in the abuses of Wall Street any day.

                       
                      Are you on crack again?
                       
                      Obama = status quo.  You expect him to reign in the abuses of Wall Street when he has already been bought?!
                       
                      Obama and Romney are statists.  You guys can’t seem to grasp that.  Greek-style riots are coming to a city near you.  The Occupy movement, which is discounted by the bought-and-paid-for-media, gives a hint of what is to come.

                  • odayjassim1978_476

                    Member
                    April 10, 2012 at 7:41 pm

                    I recall Santo saying  ‘This is someone who does not have a core’.
                    Romney can’t get the Boca crowds that Obama had today.

                    Quote from MISTRAD

                    Oh, Romney is qualified…far more than the current occupant. 

                    How good a President he would be?  I have no idea.  

              • Unknown Member

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                April 10, 2012 at 8:14 pm

                Quote from aldadoc

                Quote from Thor

                Ryan’s “plan” is a pathetic joke that make Obama’s deficit look like child’s play.  Cutting taxes more that’s the ticket

                I believe that it was Georgr Santayana who stated that:”Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.  Seems like the Democrats suffer from amnesia.

                We have a template for how to create a booming jobs recovery … Ronald Reagan.  He did it by cutting taxes and stimulating the private sector.  This is the basic premise of the Ryan plan.  It will work. 

                aldadoc:
                 
                You say you remember the past, huh? You think you can just plug and play Reagan, do you?
                 
                Well you’re making the same mistake most economists make. Reagan did that 30 years ago, right at the start of the peak of Boomer consumption when jobs couldn’t help but be plentiful because the demand for goods and services was the highest it had ever been in USA history. Reagan had the greatest economy handed to him on a platter as his manifest destiny. No other president ever inherited such economic horsepower under the hood.
                 
                Bush (and Greenscam) had the chance to shepherd the start of the downsizing of Boomer consumption and they both blew it big time. Unbridled credit strung out Boomers for decades when there was no chance their earning potential could possibly sustain the payments. That is what finally triggered the flame that had been sparking at least since Clinton when the investment banks and commercial banks got a lot cozier. 
                 
                You try to pull a Reagan act now and you’ll hear a long echo in an empty room. The demand for goods and services is waayyyy down, factories are not being built like they were decades ago (an increasing number are boarding up their doors), businesses are going into default, and so people are getting laid off left and right. The $800 billion “stimulus”, by every measure, simply stopped the free-fall and in THAT respect it was a fabulous success. If you’re sliding down the north face of a mountain and at the last minute dig your pick into the ledge with all your strength just to stop falling over the edge, wouldn’t you consider that a successful expenditure of effort? It’s hard to imagine why anyone would expect a measly trillion-ish bucks to reverse and recover the many trillions of debt, the decreased consumption by tens of million of aging Boomers who are winding down, and the magical creation of a couple of million jobs. People who expect such irrational results are simply delusional and don’t understand how population dynamics contribute to our economic system. 
                 
                You can “liberal” me all you want, pay off ALL of our national debt, give huge tax breaks to business owners, and gut the social programs, but none of that would have reversed the free-fall that we clearly were experiencing a couple of years ago. The stimulus simply added just enough purchase power to stop the layoff hemmorhaging, inspire business to ‘wait and see’, and allow some rather critical econ parameters to stabilize, and it happened very quickly (noticeable within 18 months). 
                 
                In my perspective, you’d have to be numb from the neck up to not notice how drastically things have improved in the past 18 months relative to the prior time, and how close we came to a truly devastating catastrophic collapse before that. 
                 
                I know, I know,[i] “they don’t teach much economics in med school; we’re too busy learning the IMPORTANT stuff! But because we’re “doctors”, we’re smart enough to know all kinds of stuff we haven’t even been taught yet…” [/i]
                 
                 

                • Unknown Member

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                  April 10, 2012 at 9:32 pm

                  Quote from Lux

                  The stimulus simply added just enough purchase power to stop the layoff hemmorhaging, inspire business to ‘wait and see’, and allow some rather critical econ parameters to stabilize, and it happened very quickly (noticeable within 18 months). 

                   
                  The stimulus only masked the problem and kicked the can down to future generations.
                   
                  Instead of the bailouts, the banks should have been taken into receivership, the equity and bondholders be forced to eat their losses, the banks get recapitalized and refloated back into private sector ownership.
                   
                  Home prices should have been allowed to crash to levels that can be sustained by current incomes — a healthier level of 3 times income (historical).  Those unable to service their mortgage should have been encouraged to walk away; instead, they are given the false hope of some day recouping their losses and are instead saddled with debt.  These people are stretched to the limits and are at risk of losing everything should interest rates rise or the economy slips.
                   
                  What we got instead were more massive government borrowing from future generations to bail out the banksters.
                   
                  Economic parameters only appeared to improve because the G (government) component of GDP has been inflated by deficit spending.
                   

                  • eyoab2011_711

                    Member
                    April 11, 2012 at 6:04 am

                    [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/an-economic-recovery-that-leaves-workers-further-behind/2012/04/10/gIQA75h78S_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/an-economic-recovery-that-leaves-workers-further-behind/2012/04/10/gIQA75h78S_story.html[/link]
                     
                    Just one more tax cut for the wealthy and all will be well….

                    • jquinones8812_854

                      Member
                      April 11, 2012 at 6:26 am

                      Quote from Thor

                      [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/an-economic-recovery-that-leaves-workers-further-behind/2012/04/10/gIQA75h78S_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/an-economic-recovery-that-leaves-workers-further-behind/2012/04/10/gIQA75h78S_story.html[/link]

                      Just one more tax cut for the wealthy and all will be well….

                      No, you need fundamental change.  Neither Obama or Romney will provide that.  Democrats in Congress?  Not a chance…they are the status quo.  Republicans in Congress?  A slim chance. 
                       
                      That is basically what the fight is about. 
                       
                      Because one more tax cut for the wealthy won’t solve things…but either will one more tax increase for the wealthy, like the Buffett rule.  It is all playing on the fringes. 

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 6:45 am

                      Quote from MISTRAD

                      No, you need fundamental change.  Neither Obama or Romney will provide that.  Democrats in Congress?  Not a chance…they are the status quo.  Republicans in Congress?  [b][strike]A slim chance.[/strike]   [/b]Not a chance.

                       
                      Edited for you.
                       
                      The only way to get real change is to get a 3rd party into office.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 6:49 am

                      Santorum is just a mean spirited guy. Thank god he is gone and not wasting anyone’s time.

                      Now president Obama is going to kick Mitt Romney!

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 8:22 am

                      Guys let’s make this simple. Remember KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). If the economy continues to improve Obama for 4 more years. If it tanks, Romney will win. The rest is all smoke and noise.

                    • eyoab2011_711

                      Member
                      April 11, 2012 at 8:59 am

                      Absolutely, it will be the economy that chooses our next president, but that does not mean we should not debate the relative merits.  Barely wants a 3rd party but most likely they will only be worse particularly if the expoiund libertarian ideas which will further exacerbate our problems and turn us into a third world plutocracy.
                       
                      Bottom line our tax system has to be fixed and we ALL have to pay more taxes while we CUT what can be reasonably cut starting with Medicare and defense.  Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling snake oil and we are going to need taxes around 22-23% of GDP for the foreseeable future just to do that.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 9:59 am

                      Quote from Thor

                      Absolutely, it will be the economy that chooses our next president, but that does not mean we should not debate the relative merits.  Barely wants a 3rd party but most likely they will only be worse particularly if the expoiund libertarian ideas which will further exacerbate our problems and turn us into a third world plutocracy.

                       
                        AHAHHAHAHA   Are you telling me this country isn’t already a plutocracy?  Perhaps you mistook it for a kleptocracy??  Not much difference.

                      Quote from Thor

                      Bottom line our tax system has to be fixed and we ALL have to pay more taxes while we CUT what can be reasonably cut starting with Medicare and defense.  Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling snake oil and we are going to need taxes around 22-23% of GDP for the foreseeable future just to do that.

                       
                      The first, half-reasonable thing you’ve said on this board.
                       
                      We’ll need wholesale tax reform to eliminate all loopholes.  EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.  Politicians are using loopholes to whore themselves.
                       
                      We will need massive cuts (after all, we are borrowing 40 cents of every dollar spent) and some tax increases.  If you want bigger tax increases, get rid of all the assh*ts in office first to show that people are serious about change (not the hopey-dopey-obama-change-bullsht).

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 11:04 am

                      Obama only loses if gas prices stay high to they point they crush this very slow recovery

                      No other way he loses

                      Romney is mike Dukakis Walter Mondale etc

                      Romney is not even John Kerry……. At least Kerry made it close

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 11:09 am

                      Aladoc

                      If American capital has fled our shores,

                      Where exactly is it going

                      China is starting to unravel, Russia and Europe are teetering and Japan hasn’t got up in 10 plus years

                      So where is all this capital going besides the sidelines?

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 3:13 pm

                      Quote from kpack123

                      Aladoc

                      If American capital has fled our shores,

                      Where exactly is it going

                       China is starting to unravel, Russia and Europe are teetering and Japan hasn’t got up in 10 plus years

                       So where is all this capital going besides the sidelines?

                       
                      I have read figures that up to $1.4 trillion is being held overseas by American multinational companies, because bringing the money home will cause it to be taxed at the 35% US corporate tax rate, which is now the highest in the world. The US multinationals like Apple, Google and Microsoft, instead keep the monies earned overseas in foreign subsidiaries.  Instead of bringing this money home, they just invest it overseas. 
                       
                      This is money that could easily be repatriated with a tax holiday or a lower corporate rate and would add free stimulus to our economy. I don’t blame the multinationals.  I would do the same. 
                       
                      I agree, that the investment environment overseas is not too great at the moment, but it is not that bad either, i,e the DAX.  Nevertheless, foreign capital should be gushing into the US now and US capital should be coming out of the sidelines and out of foreign subsidiaries if the regulatory and tax environments weren’t so unstable and politicized.

                    • eyoab2011_711

                      Member
                      April 11, 2012 at 4:18 pm

                      BS  there is plenty of capital available.  Don’t buy the tax holiday nonsense..just an attempt to bring their foreign capital on shore and then stash it away.  Profits are at record highs; consumption and consumers just aren’t there and your unbridled capitalists are waiting for the govt to do their jobs for them
                       
                      By the way your friends at Boeing made record profits last year so I guess Obama didn’t hurt them after all….

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 11, 2012 at 4:43 pm

                      and the  US citizens should boycott those companies products as long as funds are held overseas.

                      Quote from Thor

                      BS  there is plenty of capital available.  Don’t buy the tax holiday nonsense..just an attempt to bring their foreign capital on shore and then stash it away.  Profits are at record highs; consumption and consumers just aren’t there and your unbridled capitalists are waiting for the govt to do their jobs for them

                      By the way your friends at Boeing made record profits last year so I guess Obama didn’t hurt them after all….

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 4:52 pm

                      As they should. They would have made more money if DOJ teamed up with the union to screw them

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 5:29 pm

                      Quote from Thor

                      Profits are at record highs

                       
                      Are you certain about that?  Or are you spewing unsubstantiated horse manure again?
                       
                      Perhaps you’d be willing to share empirical data.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 6:59 pm

                      Capital fleeing the country is money invested overseas

                      Capital is not fleeing this country

                      It’s sitting on the sidelines

                      More capital fled this out try under Reagan Bush 1 and Bush 2 than under Clinton and Obama by a large amount

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 7:12 pm

                      Quote from kpack123

                      Capital fleeing the country is money invested overseas

                      Capital is not fleeing this country

                      It’s sitting on the sidelines

                      More capital fled this out try under Reagan Bush 1 and Bush 2 than under Clinton and Obama by a large amount

                       
                      What the hell are you yapping about now?

                    • jquinones8812_854

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 5:10 am

                      Quote from kpack123

                      Capital fleeing the country is money invested overseas

                      Capital is not fleeing this country

                      It’s sitting on the sidelines

                      More capital fled this out try under Reagan Bush 1 and Bush 2 than under Clinton and Obama by a large amount

                       
                      I basically agree, except with the last part.  I saw a study showing that the amount of capital leaving after 2009 was historically large. But whatever…

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 12, 2012 at 7:22 am

                      I not only have no problem with redoing the corporate tax code, but think it is needed. I would have a much lower (probably about15%) rate, but do away with all the loopholes. What I find interesting is that you don’t hear any of the big guys in business making a stink about the current code. 35% is only what the chumps pay. The big guys have enough loopholes to drive it down to nothing or close to nothing.

                    • jquinones8812_854

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 7:29 am

                      Quote from Raddocmed

                      I not only have no problem with redoing the corporate tax code, but think it is needed. I would have a much lower (probably about15%) rate, but do away with all the loopholes. What I find interesting is that you don’t hear any of the big guys in business making a stink about the current code. 35% is only what the chumps pay. The big guys have enough loopholes to drive it down to nothing or close to nothing.

                      Exactly…they don’t care because the current code benefits the big guys. 

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 12, 2012 at 7:43 am

                      Quote from MISTRAD

                      Quote from Raddocmed

                      I not only have no problem with redoing the corporate tax code, but think it is needed. I would have a much lower (probably about15%) rate, but do away with all the loopholes. What I find interesting is that you don’t hear any of the big guys in business making a stink about the current code. 35% is only what the chumps pay. The big guys have enough loopholes to drive it down to nothing or close to nothing.

                      Exactly…they don’t care because the current code benefits the big guys. 

                       
                      Despite all the posturing, why isn’t there support for major tax reforms from both Republicans and Democrats?
                       
                      Because they’ve all been bought for buy the big guys.  Kleptocracy at its best.

                    • jquinones8812_854

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 7:58 am

                      Quote from BarelyPassed

                      Quote from MISTRAD

                      Quote from Raddocmed

                      I not only have no problem with redoing the corporate tax code, but think it is needed. I would have a much lower (probably about15%) rate, but do away with all the loopholes. What I find interesting is that you don’t hear any of the big guys in business making a stink about the current code. 35% is only what the chumps pay. The big guys have enough loopholes to drive it down to nothing or close to nothing.

                      Exactly…they don’t care because the current code benefits the big guys. 

                      Despite all the posturing, why isn’t there support for major tax reforms from both Republicans and Democrats?

                      Because they’ve all been bought for buy the big guys.  Kleptocracy at its best.

                      I disagree.  I think Republicans would absolutely accept a totally reformed tax code, with lower tax rates while wiping out all loopholes, even popular ones like the mortgage deduction.  Goes for corporate rates too.  

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 12, 2012 at 8:24 am

                      I’ll believe it when I see it.
                       
                      Anything else is rhetoric.

                    • jquinones8812_854

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                      April 12, 2012 at 8:31 am

                      Quote from BarelyPassed

                      I’ll believe it when I see it.

                      Anything else is rhetoric.

                       
                      Fair enough. 

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 12, 2012 at 12:07 pm

                      Obama has also given lip service to overhauling taxes, but I haven’t seen anybody actually making a bill to do so. On this I agree with Barely. We have the best government that money can buy.

                    • odayjassim1978_476

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                      April 12, 2012 at 12:42 pm

                      Santo out probably helps Mitt’s money chest in that less has to be spent on PA

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 7:37 pm

                      I support Ann Romney’s statement that you have to respect choices of women in response to Hillary Rosen but I hope she can put that samereflective stance on her husband and others in the GOP who can not repect a woman’s choice concerning contraception and abortion and not require women to have to have US studies done on them that they don’t need and can’t pay for… So as Ann Romney says to Mitt please respect the choices of ALL WOMEN

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 7:37 pm

                      I support Ann Romney’s statement that you have to respect choices of women in response to Hillary Rosen but I hope she can put that samereflective stance on her husband and others in the GOP who can not repect a woman’s choice concerning contraception and abortion and not require women to have to have US studies done on them that they don’t need and can’t pay for… So as Ann Romney says to Mitt please respect the choices of ALL WOMEN

                    • odayjassim1978_476

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                      April 12, 2012 at 8:51 pm

                      I respect Ann Romney for her hard work, work ethic and raising 5 kids with MS but she has to remember that if you are out there actively campaigning for your husband to be President then you are not beyond constructive criticism. Yes, kids are off limits but as a spouse if you are out there campaigning for your husban who does not support pro choice for all women then you are open to constructive criticis.  Now what the NEW YORKER did to Michelle Obama went beyond constructive criticism. No that was stereotying.
                      It is an election year but lets keep the rhetoric in a professional domain.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 12, 2012 at 9:40 pm

                      I think it’s funny that the phony “war on women” has backfired on the Democrats.  Hillary Rosen blew it big time.  Now they are spinning faster than a top trying to walk it back.  Next, we need Debra Wasserman-Shultz to step on it.  

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 9:53 pm

                      It hasn’t Backfired but has exposed the hypocricy of the GOP who can’t even follow the wise words of their candidate’s wife–“RESPECT CHOICES That WOMEN MAKE”.
                      They have NOOOOOOOOO right to get inside a women’s uterus and force an unnecessary procedure on a female patient which that patient has to PAY for.
                      TO GOP: Follow your candidate’s wife words–[b]RESPECT CHOICES That[style=”color: #ff0000;”] ALL[/style] WOMEN MAKE.[/b]

                      Quote from aldadoc

                      I think it’s funny that the phony “war on women” has backfired on the Democrats.  Hillary Rosen blew it big time.  Now they are spinning faster than a top trying to walk it back.  Next, we need Debra Wasserman-Shultz to step on it.  

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 12, 2012 at 11:21 pm

                      Demanding insurance coverage for contraceptives is pure bullsh*t.
                       
                      Insurance should be for unexpected events, not for commonly used items.  That negates the idea behind insurance.
                       
                      Oh noes.  I’m now waging war on women too?!!  BAHAHHAHA

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 11:47 pm

                      BP don’t move away from what has happened. Hillary Rosen has exposed Mitt’s flip flop on choice and his wife’s /GOP opinion that only their choices are correct.  No Ann had a [b]fraudian slip [/b]and the truth came out with wisdom that [b]ALL WOMEn’S CHOICES SHOULD BE RESPECTED[/b].  No woman who has to work and [b]punch a 9-5[/b] should have to feel guilty about not staying home with the children she has and has to support and rely on welfare and should have access to all options of health care available to her as she continues to get up and go to work [b]minus cadillacs but on the BUS with ms and [/b]support the kids that she has.
                       
                       

                      Quote from BarelyPassed

                      Demanding insurance coverage for contraceptives is pure bullsh*t.

                      Insurance should be for unexpected events, not for commonly used items.  That negates the idea behind insurance.

                      Oh noes.  I’m now waging war on women too?!!  BAHAHHAHA

                    • odayjassim1978_476

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                      April 12, 2012 at 11:56 pm

                      should it be used for viagara…see you tomorrow with your thoughts…its bedtime here.
                      Y’ALL STAY tuned to the Noah/BP saga
                      may someday they meet but not on a rainy dark night just a sunny beach day.

                      Quote from BarelyPassed

                      Demanding insurance coverage for contraceptives is pure bullsh*t.

                      Insurance should be for unexpected events, not for commonly used items.  That negates the idea behind insurance.

                      Oh noes.  I’m now waging war on women too?!!  BAHAHHAHA

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 13, 2012 at 8:24 am

                      Quote from Noah’sArk

                      should it be used for viagara…see you tomorrow with your thoughts…its bedtime here.
                      Y’ALL STAY tuned to the Noah/BP saga
                      may someday they meet but not on a rainy dark night just a sunny beach day.

                       
                      Absolutely not.  If you can’t get it up, pay out of pocket.
                       
                       

                    • vascular28_304

                      Member
                      April 13, 2012 at 8:33 am

                      I think the Fair Tax would fix many things…. but neither dems or republicans would go for it because it shifts power away from washington… It would bring money back from overseas because there would no longer be a reason to “hide” income.  

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 13, 2012 at 9:14 am

                      Quote from xrayer31

                      I think the Fair Tax would fix many things…. but neither dems or republicans would go for it because it shifts power away from washington… It would bring money back from overseas because there would no longer be a reason to “hide” income.  

                       
                      Broad tax reforms would definitely take power away from Washington and the statists would never go for that.

                    • jquinones8812_854

                      Member
                      April 13, 2012 at 9:25 am

                      Quote from xrayer31

                      I think the Fair Tax would fix many things…. but neither dems or republicans would go for it because it shifts power away from washington… It would bring money back from overseas because there would no longer be a reason to “hide” income.  

                      Any Republicans which oppose that sort of policy should be kicked out.  

                    • eyoab2011_711

                      Member
                      April 13, 2012 at 9:52 am

                      Stop fixating on consumption taxes; regressive and won’t bring in the expected revenues.  Simplify…Simpson Bowles is the best idea out there still but of course Repubs shot that down in the House

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 13, 2012 at 10:24 am

                      Quote from Thor

                      Stop fixating on consumption taxes; regressive and won’t bring in the expected revenues.  Simplify…Simpson Bowles is the best idea out there still but of course Repubs shot that down in the House

                      You’re so full of sh*t, do you ever choke on it?
                       
                      Obama and the Democrats also shot down Simpson Bowles.  Both parties are to blame on this one.
                       
                      Sheeple like you, who blindly defend their party at every turn, is the reason we can never get a compromise.

                    • jquinones8812_854

                      Member
                      April 13, 2012 at 11:00 am

                      Simpson-Bowles was a PRESIDENTIAL COMMISSION.
                       
                      When the President in question doesn’t support his own commission, don’t expect the other party to support it.  Duh. 
                       
                      That said, I would like more Republicans to support Simpson-Bowles, and I blame them for not doing so.  But #1 on the list of responsibility for that one is Barack H. Obama. 

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 12, 2012 at 9:53 pm

                      It hasn’t Backfired but has exposed the hypocricy of the GOP who can’t even follow the wise words of their candidate’s wife–“RESPECT CHOICES That WOMEN MAKE”.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 8:59 am

                      Quote from Raddocmed

                      Guys let’s make this simple. Remember KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). If the economy continues to improve Obama for 4 more years. If it tanks, Romney will win. The rest is all smoke and noise.

                      Very reasonable, but let me make one small modification.
                       
                      If the economy [strike]continues to improve[/strike] doesn’t tank, Obama for 4 more years.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 9:43 am

                      The economy is not going to save Obama.  If you use past economic cycles as a template, we should have been in a powerful recovery since 2009-2010.  Instead, we have a sputtering and jobless recovery.  This can be attributed to fundamentals and policy for which the current administration should be held directly responsible, including Obamacare, drilling bans, Dodd-Franks, activist green government subsidies, attacks on private industry (Boeing), unsettled taxing environment and the highest corporate tax rates in the world.
                       
                      American capital has fled our shores and will only return when some of these hurdles have been removed.  We now have the most “progressive” taxes in the industrialized world.  Our Democrat controlled senate won’t allow a vote on a budget.  Small business owners (the wealthiest 10%) find themselves to be the subjects of populist attacks and the targets for confiscatory taxation.
                       
                      Romney offers the best opportunity to break from this pernicious cycle of political revanchism, favoritism, demonization and divisiveness.  Our tax policies need to be flattened to include the 49% who currently don’t have skin in the game. Entitlements need to be tackled, a la Ryan.  Oil drilling and pipeline permits need to be liberalized. The Bush tax cuts (for all Americans) need to be made into permanent law. Obamacare needs to be replaced by sensible reform.
                       
                      Romney may be a dork, but he’s our ticket to break loose from Obama and the socialists’ current death grip on the throat of our economy.  

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 11, 2012 at 11:23 am

                      Some say it’s all about the  [u][size=”3″][b]3 R’s [/b][/size][/u]
                      [style=”color: #ff0000;”][b][size=”2″]i.e.[/size][/b][/style][b] Romney & The Ryan Plan = [size=”3″]RIP OFF [/size][/b]the Middleclass for the 1%s.
                      Trickle down doesn’t work…that’s the past and demonstrates why  people will be etch a sketching OUT OF TOUCH on Romney’s pic. 
                       

                      Quote from aldadoc

                      The economy is not going to save Obama.  If you use past economic cycles as a template, we should have been in a powerful recovery since 2009-2010.  Instead, we have a sputtering and jobless recovery.  This can be attributed to fundamentals and policy for which the current administration should be held directly responsible, including Obamacare, drilling bans, Dodd-Franks, activist green government subsidies, attacks on private industry (Boeing), unsettled taxing environment and the highest corporate tax rates in the world.

                      American capital has fled our shores and will only return when some of these hurdles have been removed.  We now have the most “progressive” taxes in the industrialized world.  Our Democrat controlled senate won’t allow a vote on a budget.  Small business owners (the wealthiest 10%) find themselves to be the subjects of populist attacks and the targets for confiscatory taxation.

                      Romney offers the best opportunity to break from this pernicious cycle of political revanchism, favoritism, demonization and divisiveness.  Our tax policies need to be flattened to include the 49% who currently don’t have skin in the game. Entitlements need to be tackled, a la Ryan.  Oil drilling and pipeline permits need to be liberalized. The Bush tax cuts (for all Americans) need to be made into permanent law. Obamacare needs to be replaced by sensible reform.

                      Romney may be a dork, but he’s our ticket to break loose from Obama and the socialists’ current death grip on the throat of our economy.  

                    • Unknown Member

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                      April 11, 2012 at 12:57 pm

                      Don’t forget the deficit debate.
                       
                      The debt ceiling will be hit earlier than expected, sometime around the election.  Obama will have to deal with that issue too.  If the Republicans play it just right, they can get a few percentage points on this issue.

                    • odayjassim1978_476

                      Member
                      April 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm

                      a few percentage points is like a a 3rd parties Snow ball chance

                      Quote from BarelyPassed

                      Don’t forget the deficit debate.

                      The debt ceiling will be hit earlier than expected, sometime around the election.  Obama will have to deal with that issue too.  If the Republicans play it just right, they can get a few percentage points on this issue.

      • odayjassim1978_476

        Member
        April 10, 2012 at 2:07 pm

        The Ryan plan IMHO is why they will lose  because it plays so well into “Out of touch..out of time”.  The GOP seems to always have a Romney or McCain  or Bush in connection with a Ryan, a Sarah, a Qyale.. if it has not worked before then as Obama said today to mountains of supporters in Boca then why keep going back to it.

        Quote from aldadoc

        Romney’s aligned himself with the Ryan plan. I think that this will serve him well in terms of substance and credibility.  It is getting harder to take a responsible position and still win, because 50% of Americans pay no Federal income tax, yet get to vote themselves more and more goodies. This may be the last time that the productive tax-paying 50%’ers gets to out-vote the growing and now near- majority non-contributing looters.

  • odayjassim1978_476

    Member
    April 10, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    oh please , Mitt is about to have his mittens bitten.
    All they have to do is show commercial after commercial of Mitt’s statements on Cadillacs,10,000 bets and I like to fire people with Hall and Oates song OUT OF TOUCH playing in the background.  “Out of touch, out of time”.  Oh and the female vote for the GOP  is like dwindling..”Out of touch/  out of time”
    I guess no one saw Obama’s Boca speech..hundreds of Floridian voters.

    Quote from aldadoc

    [link=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57411949-503544/rick-santorum-ends-bid-for-gop-nomination/]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57411949-503544/rick-santorum-ends-bid-for-gop-nomination/[/link]

    The race is on!  Mitt’s gonna kick Obama’s butt.

    • Unknown Member

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      April 10, 2012 at 2:03 pm

      Quote from Noah’sArk

      oh please , Mitt is about to have his mittens bitten.
      All they have to do is show commercial after commercial of Mitt’s statements on Cadillacs,10,000 bets and I like to fire people with Hall and Oates song OUT OF TOUCH playing in the background.  “Out of touch, out of time”.  Oh and the female vote for the GOP  is like dwindling..”Out of touch/  out of time”
      I guess no one saw Obama’s Boca speech..hundreds of Floridian voters.

      Quote from aldadoc

      [link=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57411949-503544/rick-santorum-ends-bid-for-gop-nomination/]http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57411949-503544/rick-santorum-ends-bid-for-gop-nomination/[/link]

      The race is on!  Mitt’s gonna kick Obama’s butt.

       
      No way that the “out of touch” mantra is going to trump the $800B “stimulus debacle, the Obamacare failure, joblessness, impending tax increases, racial strife and every other divisive distraction that Obama has thrown out, in the hope that something will stick. 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 26, 2014 at 3:29 pm

     
     

    Rick scares me.

     
    Rick making some news…. and he scares me too.
     
    First, he’s claiming that people who oppose same-sex marriage are being sent to re-education camps.
     
    [link=http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/06/23/rick-santorum-people-who-oppose-gay-rights-are-being-sent-to-re-education-camps/]http://www.pinknews.co.uk…to-re-education-camps/[/link]
     
     
    But I do like the fact that he’s admitting that the anti-gay moving is losing.
     
    [link=http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/10/26/rick-santorum-anti-gay-movement-is-losing-because-gays-have-silenced-the-church/]http://www.pinknews.co.uk…e-silenced-the-church/[/link]
     

    Notoriously anti-gay politician Rick Santorum has claimed that his movement is only losing on gay rights because activists have silenced the Church.
     
     
    I really believe in this subject matter at hand with the gay community that a Judeo-Christian worldview cannot survive with a worldview that is as rabidly secular as this movement is.
    One is going to battle the other and I can tell you that the statists, these secular statists, do not want the competition that comes from the church and so they are going to do everything they can to marginalize them, to force them out of the public square to be quiet.
    Theyre going to use, as they have, the Johnson amendment, try to use the IRS and the tax code to do so, theyre going to use every lever of power the government has to keep this competition of ideas silent so they can win the argument.
     

     

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      October 27, 2014 at 2:05 am

      Right-wing misinformation machine, Obama doesn’t support his own commission to re-education camps for conservatives. No lie is big enough.

      • ruszja

        Member
        October 27, 2014 at 7:23 am

        Who is Rick Santorum ?

        • btomba_77

          Member
          October 27, 2014 at 7:43 am

          Quote from fw

          Who is Rick Santorum ?

           
          He is the guy who is going to come in 2nd in the GOP 2016 Iowa primary.

          • ruszja

            Member
            October 28, 2014 at 6:11 am

            Quote from dergon

            Quote from fw

            Who is Rick Santorum ?

            He is the guy who is going to come in 2nd in the GOP 2016 Iowa primary.

            You mean like Michelle Bachmann ?

            Although, with her gay husband, now that all that is normal, maybe the GOP puts her back in the spotlight.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              May 22, 2021 at 1:29 pm

              Santorum is out! … again!
               
              This time fired by CNN.
               
              [link=https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rick-santorum-cnn-native-americans_n_60a92fa6e4b0313547978140?6pa]Rick Santorum is out as a CNN commentator[/link] after failing to defend his comment that “candidly, there isnt much Native American culture in American culture.

              a CNN senior executive told HuffPost that the network quietly ended its contract with Santorum this week. The decision to cut ties with Santorum came after he went on one of the networks shows, Cuomo Prime Time, to explain himself shortly after he made his racist comments. He blew it, said this executive, and after that, nobody at the network wanted to keep him around. Leadership wasnt particularly satisfied with that appearance. None of the anchors wanted to book him, said the executive. So he was essentially benched anyway.

              During his appearance on Chris Cuomos show, Santorum said he misspoke and that his comments were out of context. But the context of his remarks was simply that he said them, and he did not apologize during the segment. I think after that appearance, it was pretty clear we couldnt use him again, said the executive.

        • ruszja

          Member
          May 22, 2021 at 2:42 pm

          Quote from fw

          Who is Rick Santorum ?

          I am just going to have to quote myself here. I asked this question in 2014 and his relevance has not increased or decreased one bit in the intervening years. He was a lesser known blowhard pundit then, and he hasn’t become any more relevant since.

          • btomba_77

            Member
            November 2, 2021 at 12:40 pm

            Sliding a few rungs further down the relevance ladder…
            [b]Rick Santorum Joins Newsmax[/b][/h1]  
            Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) is joining Newsmax as a senior political analyst, after he was fired earlier this year from CNN for downplaying Native American genocide, the [link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/rick-santorum-continues-fall-from-disgrace-lands-at-newsmax?ref=home]Daily Beast[/link] reports.