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RSNA 2020 to be Virtual
SSIA. Just announced.
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Larry’s pseudo hospital (arms race with NYC) really worked out for Chicago
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Maybe they can move it to Orlando or San Diego for next year.
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Move out of Chicago in Dec.
Vote for ORL.
Cost is pretty high in CHI compared to ORL I think.-
I’m trying to think which is worse, Chicago in late November or Orlando at any time of year.
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San Diego … or even Vegas… I could live with.
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Yes please, never understood why we meet in Chicago in the winter. Lets go someplace warm.
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Yes to San Diego, absolutely not to Orlando.
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I agree… But to cancel, they probably had to agree to have the conference in Chicago for many years to come…. That’s how it works.
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Whats wrong with Orlando?
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Why did we cancel now? Seems early, couldnt wait a couple months?
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Whats wrong with Orlando?
I would say that if I loved golf or Disney, it would be just fine. There is just about nothing else to do however. It’s also the one major city in Florida without a beach. Plenty of swamps though.
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Doesnt sound appealing at all thanks! San Diego would be great.
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Yes please, never understood why we meet in Chicago in the winter. Lets go someplace warm.
From my understanding (which is total heresy / conjecture / rumor), the city and convention center provide quite a bit of “support” as it drags in a lot of business to have 30,000 radiologists + vendors + hospital execs etc
They had to do it now because now is when they start prepping for this stuff – hotel rooms, convention floor space, etc etc.-
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Yes please, never understood why we meet in Chicago in the winter. Lets go someplace warm.
From my understanding (which is total heresy / conjecture / rumor), the city and convention center provide quite a bit of “support” as it drags in a lot of business to have 30,000 radiologists + vendors + hospital execs etc
They had to do it now because now is when they start prepping for this stuff – hotel rooms, convention floor space, etc etc.
Cynical me suspects that the Freeman company bought the RSNA board members a few nice european cars and got them to sign a 99 year lease.
The official reason is that ‘it is so large, only McCormick can host it’ which is of course ludicrous as during the conference there are large areas of the Lakeside pavillion that are not even being used. Based on the square footage being used, this could easily be held in Vegas or Orlando. Also, vendors will gladly reduce their footprint if the overall size of the center is smaller as that reduces their trucking and personnel cost. There used to be an ‘arms race’ of who can build the most ostentatious display pavillion, does nothing for the conference itself. There are also plenty of vendors just brought in to fill the floorspace. I mean, really, do we need the seamless gutter sales folks at a radiology conference ?
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Ever taken a close look at the RSNA hotel bills and the tax? No doubt, Chicago and Illinois will find some way to tax rads and vendors for “virtual” attendance.
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Chicago works because:
1) Terrible weather keeps attendees in conference instead of at the beach or whatever outdoor fun ORL and SAN provide.
2) McCormick is a bit isolated from downtown so it keeps attendees there. Getting to the city even for lunch kills a couple hours with uber/taxi lines and commute time
If its in Vegas or San Diego, are you going to waste that sunshine in a lecture hall all day, especially if you are coming from most of America that is starting to hit winter temps for the next 4-5 months?-
From what I understand, I think it’s classically been held in Chicago because o’hare is a major hub for national and international flights, and is pretty easy to get in / out of. Also, although Chicago is pricey, probably a lot cheaper than some west coast and east coast options.
Lastly, knowing Chicago politics, there are probably some behind the scene kickbacks with the tourism dept, mccormick, and the hotel organizations that we know nothing about.
I love Chicago but agree that in the late fall I’d much rather spend my time in San Diego, Miami, scottsdale, heck, even Orlando ( and to the naysayers I’d actually say even if you’re not a Disney / universal / golf person, at least the weather would be amazing and you could relax by the pool ).-
1. The RSNA offices are in the suburbs of Chicago. Major factor to keep it there in their ‘back yard’. [b]That’s why they built their offices close bye. Very strategic, eh?[/b]
Remember, for hotel reservations you have to go through the RSNA – they take a cut. Normal business practice. They have worked out deals long in advance with the numerous hotels, and bus companies which deliver the attendees to McCormick Place. Those ‘warm’ relationships go back decades.
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2. The RSNA not only attracts Americans, but also tons of Europeans, Asians, and South Americans, and other out-of-towners. Most of these countries can fly in directly to Chicago – a major convenience for attendees. Orlando, San Diego and Vegas – much harder and have to invariably connect through another gateway city – like Chicago, NY, LA, Miami.3. These out-of-towners generally bring their spouses, and the women (or men) love to shop in downtown Chicago on Michigan Avenue, or go out for excellent meals at world renown restaurants. [b]Keeps the radiologists in the conferences (which is why they are really coming for the meeting – RIGHT???). [/b]
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4. With the radiologists actually on-site at the meetings/lectures and McCormick Place, [b]allows the vendors to have more [u]’face-time'[/u] with potential buyers of their equipment or wares – instead of chasing the little white ball or going to the matinee Cirque du Soleil or Celine Dione concerts, the one arm bandits, or paying homage to the Rat-King at Disneyworld in Orlando.[/b]
5.Also, because RSNA week always falls just past the Thanksgiving holiday and a long 4 day weekend, this allows many U.S. radiologists the opportunity to leave a little earlier for the meeting – and stay an extra couple of days and enjoy Chicago. Great for the local economy, and frequently gets expense’d out and comes out of somebody else’s budget for CME/travel/lodging/meals.
6. Sure its cold, but you’re supposed to be in conference from 7:30 am to 6:00 pm INSIDE!
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But its cold
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^^ This guy gets it.
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All too true…
What’s not to like about Chicago, other than the exorbitant taxes and corruption in government and gun shot wounds? Oh, and traffic (but there’s the Red Line for that).
I lived in Chicago, and that city really does embrace the meeting. Everybody knows it is going on and who’s there. Miracle Mile jacks its prices accordingly, as do the hotels, restaurants, and everybody else.
But it is still a great meeting, and one that puts you well ahead of the curve, should you actually attend the lectures, read the posters, etc. It’s also great to see old friends and colleagues.
I regret that they have to go virtual, as that will remove many of the elements that make it a great meeting. But this is our new normal. We simply need to get used to it.
The last thing we all need now is more social distancing…-
I love Chicago. Went to RSNA for many years but not until my daughter went to college did I get to see the city during the other seasons. But with regards to the meeting, haven’t gone in at least 5 years. Have done the virtual meeting and get more out of it, educationally. Having access to the talks on demand makes it alot easier for me. I do not miss the bus ride, getting up when it’s dark and heading back to hotel when it’s dark.
One year we did an executive rental in the State St. area in a high rise . We cooked our own thanksgiving dinner and had a blast. Had a view of the Merchandise Mart which was all lit up in red and green. Short walk to everything. But schlepping out to McCormick was still a PITA.
Am doing the ASNR virtual meeting starting tomorrow. I think registration was 150 bucks. Not a bad deal. On demand for about 90 days. ASHNR will aslo be virtual and will probably do that.
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I wouldnt mind rsna in chicago, if it was june-september. Used to go often, havent went in 7-8 years. If largest and most important cancer meeting in world ASCO can do it in June, rsna should be able to do the same.
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So how are all these radiologists who keep carrying on an affair with some equipment rep from fellowship continue to do so if the meeting is virtuous ?
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It’s stupid that RSNA is held every year in Chicago. For sure there is some graft at play here. As a kid, I loved going on trips when dad (ophtho) would do the big yearly meeting. New Orleans, Miami, SF etc etc You know, places you’d actually take your family to in wintertime.
Chicago in November? Never been to RSNA and certainly will never go as long as it’s held there.-
[link=https://www.healthimaging.com/topics/conferences/rsna-cancel-conference-not-insured-judge-covid?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=rb_news]https://www.healthimaging…amp;utm_medium=rb_news[/link]
[b]RSNAs $30M policy did not insure against COVID-19 cancellation, judge rules[/b]
The Radiological Society of North America is not owed losses it earned after canceling its in-person annual meeting last year due to the COVID-19 pandemic, an Illinois federal judge ruled recently.
U.S. District Judge Robert W. Gettleman pointed to RSNAs $30 million policy with underwriters at Lloyds of London, noting a clear communicable disease exclusion in the societys coverage, Law360 reported July 9.
RSNA had the option to buy communicable disease coverage as part of its event cancellation policy, the news outlet reported, but chose not to.
“The obvious intent is that losses caused by a communicable disease that had been declared a pandemic are excluded from coverage,” Judge Gettleman said in the July 8 decision.
The dispute dates back to March, when RSNA accused Llyods underwriters of not honoring the event policy, arguing a fair reading of the document resulted in outright confusion, according to Law360. In addition to the exclusion, the radiology group said there was also an exception in the policy that made it difficult to determine coverage for communicable diseases.
But Gettleman said that wasnt the case. He did, however, acknowledge the exclusion contained bad grammar and was poorly written.
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