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[Unknown Member]

As they say in certain parts

West by god Virginia

The state literally has destroyed itself in the past 30 years

Most of Southern West Virginia are as close to the the apocalypse as there is

Like something out mad max

[19462008]

Be honest…. she’s brought this on herself by opening her mouth against Jews and non Muslims. She’s a clown ass that is an embarrassment to the Liberal stated Muslim community. Liberal meaning… “relaxed laws of her religion” the same requests leftist want Christians to do. But that is never discussed with her. Do you believe she really supports the LGBQT community? Let her speak that, directly and not with twisted words. She can’t and won’t. Because her up brining will not allow it.
 
This is not a WV issue, it’s a national issue that is only fueled by the Lefts hatred towards others. It’s apparent that violence is now a standard for the left in protests and accusations. 

[Unknown Member]

Its a rural issue

That being said have you said what West Virginia has done to itself in the past 20 years????

Totally blowing the top off those beautiful mountains to skim a layer of coal

Opioid addition

Businesses shhuttered all along most of I-79

It is like the apocalypse there

Damn shame it use to be a beautiful stare with hard working people…….. now its like something out of mad max

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from CudaRad

This is not a WV issue, it’s a national issue that is only fueled by the Lefts hatred towards others. It’s apparent that violence is now a standard for the left in protests and accusations. 

That’s a 180 degree argument from the truth. It is the Right, the conservatives and Republicans who constantly stroke their hate. This poster was about hatred. It linked this woman with 9-11. Why? For no other reason than she is a Muslim. This is about hate and hatred and it is exclusive to the Right. As for violence, the bodies of Sikhs and chants for “Jews will not replace us!” along with street violence and the murders of parishioners by a white supremacist are where the violence lies. 
 
ACT is a hate group. ACT is a Right-wing hate group. This is an identification
 
 

Pushkin, who is Jewish, said he condemned the poster from the floor of the House and asked his colleagues to do the same.
 
I said, In 1933 in Berlin, they might have had a similar poster about somebody like me, he said.
 
But no Republican delegates condemned the poster, Pushkin said. Im really disappointed that not a single Republican elected official in this building could join me in saying its wrong, he said.
 
Many Republicans got up to speak about the First Amendment in response, according to West Virginia Public Radio.

Republicans can’t find the courage to condemn the poster signifying hatred but are able to suddenly defend the 1st Amendment. This poster was not on someone’s lawn, it was in the West Virginia State Capital building! Apparently it was meant to represent the citizens of West Virginia in hatred.
 
 

[Unknown Member]

I think most West Virginians have never seen a Muslim in real life

[kaldridgewv2211]

The GOP sniped with that poster.  However, it looks like she pissed off the dems too.  However, I can’t find more context than the quote below.  On the surface it doesn’t seem anti-semetic unless your in the camp of questioning anything Israel related is anti-semetic.  I take her point because there is a pro-Israel lobby.
 
Democratic leaders in the House plan to call for a vote on a resolution in response to remarks that freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar made about Israel at a town hall event last week
 
“allegiance to a foreign country”
 
[link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/04/ilhan-omar-democrats-house-vote-resolution-condemning-israel-remarks/3058373002/]https://www.usatoday.com/…el-remarks/3058373002/[/link]

[btomba_77]

Nothing she said was anti-Semitic.

The Israel-supporting  folks do not tolerate criticism and, as usual, call everybody who doesnt agree with Israels  policies an anti Semite.

Or (quoted from The Guardian):

Why is it OK to talk about Saudi lobbies, and Saudis buying Trump, and Saudi-first policies, why is it not Islamophobic to say all of that, but its antisemitic when it comes to Israel?”
 
 
Of course Jewish lobbying money seeks to bend US policy towards Israel. As does Russian money towards Putin. And fossil fuel money towards fossil fuel tax and subsidy policy. Its very much about the Benjamins.
 
 
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The latest episode stands to widen the breach between the partys traditional supporters of Israel, who include Pelosi and Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.), and liberals who are critical of Israels treatment of the Palestinian population within its borders and want Congress to take a more skeptical view of the U.S.-Israel relationship.
 
That split has helped drive the response to Omars latest remarks. A small group of stalwart Democratic Israel allies, including Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot L. Engel (N.Y.) and Appropriations Committee Chairwoman Nita M. Lowey (N.Y.), as well as Gottheimer, Rep. Ted Deutch (Fla.) and others, worked through the weekend to craft the resolution and push leaders for its passage.

 
The bipartisan response by both Repubs and Dems simply confirms that she was on to something in her comments to start with.
 
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/rep-omars-comments-prompt-house-democrats-to-craft-anti-semitism-measure/2019/03/04/1a4d8c12-3ea8-11e9-922c-64d6b7840b82_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c8a01cff4479]https://www.washingtonpos…utm_term=.c8a01cff4479[/link]
 

[19462008]

Quote from Frumious

Quote from CudaRad

This is not a WV issue, it’s a national issue that is only fueled by the Lefts hatred towards others. It’s apparent that violence is now a standard for the left in protests and accusations. 

That’s a 180 degree argument from the truth. It is the Right, the conservatives and Republicans who constantly stroke their hate. This poster was about hatred. It linked this woman with 9-11. Why? For no other reason than she is a Muslim. This is about hate and hatred and it is exclusive to the Right. As for violence, the bodies of Sikhs and chants for “Jews will not replace us!” along with street violence and the murders of parishioners by a white supremacist are where the violence lies. 

ACT is a hate group. ACT is a Right-wing hate group. This is an identification

Pushkin, who is Jewish, said he condemned the poster from the floor of the House and asked his colleagues to do the same.

I said, In 1933 in Berlin, they might have had a similar poster about somebody like me, he said.

But no Republican delegates condemned the poster, Pushkin said. Im really disappointed that not a single Republican elected official in this building could join me in saying its wrong, he said.

Many Republicans got up to speak about the First Amendment in response, according to West Virginia Public Radio.

Republicans can’t find the courage to condemn the poster signifying hatred but are able to suddenly defend the 1st Amendment. This poster was not on someone’s lawn, it was in the West Virginia State Capital building! Apparently it was meant to represent the citizens of West Virginia in hatred.

And as the new day starts, it is apparent her election platform to get elected was a hoax to switch bait and becomes an Anti Semitic, Gay, Non Muslim hater. Jewish committees are asking for her removal. No doubt, she will now become the victim rather than culprit of her own actions and MOUTH. Will she be a Human first? Or keep spewing hatred on the expense of the Democratic Party?
 
I will give her 50% of my Human positivity if she comments the on following Issues:
1. Israel should be recognized by all Muslims states. Yes or No? (How Kamal would ask)
2. She condemns Sharia Law and the torture and disrespect of her own Sex in the Muslim world.
If she won’t even address those issues as she sits on the foreign commission, then she’s a liar and an opportunist to only push her only agenda. Get rid of all non Muslims.
 

[Unknown Member]

Cuda

Have you been to West Virginia?

[kayla.meyer_144]

Other than her being Muslim, I’m trying to find exactly what she said that was so evil. Criticized Israel & Netanyahu = anti-Semitism?
 
Rigged argument.
 
Cuda, all your excuses for encouraging hate are beside the point. But then propaganda is an “alternate facts” reality, isn’t it.

[kaldridgewv2211]

I kind of find that the stereotypes are being propogated by the offended party. She said all about the Benjamins and everyone was up in arms that it was a Jewish stereotype.

The reality is there are Jewish lobby and they give money to candidates to support their causes. Muslims, Christians, Atheist all do the same.

If Congress doesn’t like it then time to get the money out of politics

[tdetlie_105]

Quote from Frumious

Other than her being Muslim, I’m trying to find exactly what she said that was so evil. Criticized Israel & Netanyahu = anti-Semitism?

Rigged argument.

Cuda, all your excuses for encouraging hate are beside the point. But then propaganda is an “alternate facts” reality, isn’t it.

 
Basically saying that Jews (Israeli) lobby uses money to influence their political agenda/exert power.  While I do not personally view that statement itself as being anti-Semitic, these days it’s the party that is allegedly attacked that determines the amount of bigotry/outrage, not unbiased outsiders.  Also one could argue that a statement which includes Jews, money, and control/power is not an uncommon theme in anti-semitic views.  

[Unknown Member]

Rep Ilhan Omar is a breath of fresh air.
 
We all know that AIPAC controls the U.S. Congress.   AIPAC’s own website says they’re a pro Israel lobby.  Straight from the horse’s own mouth.
    
  If the head of AIPCAC, Mort Fridman, came to Capitol Hill and wanted his shoes shined, nearly every single member of Congress – except for a few people – would be fighting each other tooth and nail to get the “honor” of being the first one to do it.
 
But, we’re not allowed to talk about the emperor’s clothes.  Anybody who dares to say the emperor has no clothes will be accused of being an anti-Semite.
 
Similarly, it is well known that some American Jews (certainly not all and only a minority) have dual loyalty.  But again, we’re not allowed to talk about it.
 
And when Omar brings up dual loyalty issues, she’s accused of being an anti-Semite.
 
Take the case of Americans serving in the IDF.  Why can’t they serve in the U.S. military instead ?  I think they’re an example of Americans with dual loyalty.  But anyone who says that will be called an anti-Semite.
 
We’re not allowed to question the patriotism of young Americans who could serve in the U.S. military choosing to serve in the military of a foreign country instead. 
 
Anyone who questions what American citizens who grew up in America are doing in the IDF will be accused of anti-Semetism.  
 
We’re not allowed to question it or discuss it.      
Jonathan Pollard, for example, was a spy for Israel.  Clearly a case of dual loyalty.          
If I question Jonathan Pollard’s loyalty to the United States, does that make me an anti-Semite ?       
 
Israel isn’t the 51st state of the United States.  It’s a foreign country.
 
If Israel wants to be the 51st state, we can talk about that. ( I personally wouldn’t be opposed to it and actually think that might work out well for all concerned.) 
 
But at least as of today, it’s not part of the United States.
 
 
 
      
     

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2019/03/08/republican-leadership-splits-and-party-splinters-over-hate-resolution-405944?nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000014e-f0ed-dd93-ad7f-f8edad790000&nlid=630318]Playbook[/link]: [b]GOP splits on anti-hate resolution, angering leadership[/b]
 
23 House Republicans voted against a resolution Thursday evening that condemned hate against many groups, including Jews and Muslims, in the wake of Rep. Ilhan Omars comments that suggested supporters of Israel might have dual loyalty remarks that were widely viewed as anti-Semitic. Every Democrat voted yes.
 
There is serious, serious anger seething, its fair to say at the top levels of the House GOP that Republicans muddled their message with a split on this vote. All week, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthys leadership team managed to keep his troops in line, allowing Democrats to spend days upon days tripping all over themselves. Now, they have taken a bit of the spotlight off Democrats for reasons that are clear to no one.
 
There were two options when it came to this vote, according to top lawmakers and aides: Either every single Republican had to be for the resolution, or everyone needed to be against it. Now that nearly two dozen Republicans voted no, the party is in the mushy middle, unable to define where it stood.
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from jd4540

Basically saying that Jews (Israeli) lobby uses money to influence their political agenda/exert power.  While I do not personally view that statement itself as being anti-Semitic, these days it’s the party that is allegedly attacked that determines the amount of bigotry/outrage, not unbiased outsiders.  Also one could argue that a statement which includes Jews, money, and control/power is not an uncommon theme in anti-semitic views.  

Yes, it’s been an old anti-Semitic trope that “the Jews” own all the money and use it but, “Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean people aren’t after me.” Yeah, IMHO, it’s a reach considering Supreme idiocy Citizen’s United decision. It’s a smoke screen to silence criticism of Israel. 
 
The dual allegiance charge comes closer but again, IMHO doesn’t quite make hate speech level. I’m old enough to recall the criticism against JFK’s election by the Right due to Catholic “dual allegiance” to the Pope – JFK would “secretly” be following the orders of Pope John XXIII. It’s just too easy to dispute and shoot down except for the true believers who will be hopelessly ignorant in any case enclosed in their alternate reality. I don’t think Omar believes in an alternate reality, that’s Trump’s supporters’ beliefs, like Kellyanne’s territory.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Michelle Goldberg expresses the duality of my feelings towards Omar very accurately. At one point I want her to just shut up with her ignorant statements as they make things worse and the other she is being subjected to as bad or worse than what she is being criticized for.
 
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/opinion/ilhan-omar-antisemitism-democrats.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…emitism-democrats.html[/link]
 

The identity politics fiasco surrounding Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar has been excruciating. Half of me is angry at her. The other half is furious for her.
 
 
Among the most basic anti-Semitic tropes are these: Jews employ semi-occult powers to control world events; they manipulate hapless gentiles with their money; and Jews in the diaspora are disloyal to the countries in which they live. Omar, in the course of making perfectly valid criticisms of Israel and its most powerful American lobby, has invoked each of these tropes.
 
I assume Omar has been reckless rather than malicious, but it is incumbent on her, as on any public person who wades into fraught sectarian debates, to speak with care. This doesnt mean she should temper her criticism of Israel, just that she needs to stop giving ammunition to those who want to conflate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.
 
So I think Omar deserves criticism. Criticism, however, is not the right word for what shes faced. As one of the first two Muslim women in Congress and the first to wear a hijab Omar has been subject to a terrifying campaign of racist vilification, including a poster in the rotunda of the West Virginia Capitol linking her to 9/11. She is treated as a dangerous foreign interloper in American politics and the embodiment of anti-Semitism, even though her Republican colleagues routinely demonstrate far worse anti-Jewish bigotry.
 
Earlier this week, Representative Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio, accused Representative Jerry Nadler of doing the bidding of the wealthy liberal donor [link=https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1102268353492721664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1102568408837771265&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fus-news%2Ftop-democrat-blasts-republican-congressman-for-anti-semitic-attack-1.6984926]Tom $teyer[/link], whose father was Jewish. (To be clear, this tweet counts both as inane AND anti-Semitic, [link=https://twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1102568408837771265]Nadler responded[/link].) Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican who is one of Trumps fiercest defenders, once brought an internet troll whod denied the Holocaust to the State of the Union. Omar gestured at the idea of dual loyalty, but Donald Trump, [link=https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-praises-israel-as-your-country-to-american-jews/]speaking to American Jews[/link] last December, referred to Israel as your country. Indeed, no president has done more to mainstream classically anti-Semitic ideas about an authentic volk at war with parasitical globalists. Its maddening to watch men whove flirted with outright fascism like former Trump aide Sebastian Gorka, who wore the medal of a [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/sebastian-gorka-made-nazi-linked-vitezi-rend-proud-wearing-its-n742851]Nazi-aligned Hungarian group[/link] to one of Trumps inaugural balls act like sanctimonious defenders of the Jews.
 
House Democratic leaders have been widely panned for their handling of the Omar affair, but its contradictions put them in a near-impossible bind. To ignore her words would be to tolerate mild anti-Semitism, an unsavory proposition at any time, but especially now, when many Jews feel newly vulnerable in a country thats long been a haven. To publicly rebuke her would mean joining in the over-the-top demonization of a black Muslim woman [link=https://nypost.com/2019/03/05/fbi-investigating-assassination-threat-against-rep-ilhan-omar/]facing death threats[/link]. 
 
Then the voting on the anti-bigotry resolution started. Every Democrat present backed the resolution, but 23 Republicans voted against it. It was a reminder that while Democrats sometimes fail to live up to the ideals of multiethnic democracy, Republicans dont seem to recognize those ideas at all. Omar needs to do better, but right now theres still only one political party in America that is a safe place for hate.

 
 
 

C’mon @RepJerryNadler—at least pretend to be serious about fact finding.

Nadler feeling the heat big time. Jumps to Tom $teyer’s conclusion—impeaching our President—before first document request.

What a Kangaroo court. https://t.co/BpNIzdON1e

— Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) March 3, 2019

[19462008]

Quote from Frumious

Other than her being Muslim, I’m trying to find exactly what she said that was so evil. Criticized Israel & Netanyahu = anti-Semitism?

Rigged argument.

Cuda, all your excuses for encouraging hate are beside the point. But then propaganda is an “alternate facts” reality, isn’t it.

 
You should know better than I Frumi. It’s the lefts creed and schtick.  

[Unknown Member]

[link]https://www.netflix.com/title/80141231[/link]

Watch this

[kayla.meyer_144]

A man, Patrick W. Carlineo Jr. threatens Rep. Ilhan Omar by putting a  bullet in her [expletive] skull!
 
[link=https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdny/pr/steuben-county-man-arrested-charged-threatening-kill-us-congresswoman]https://www.justice.gov/u…-kill-us-congresswoman[/link]
 
 

[19462008]

Quote from Frumious

A man, Patrick W. Carlineo Jr. threatens Rep. Ilhan Omar by putting a  bullet in her [expletive] skull!

[link=https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdny/pr/steuben-county-man-arrested-charged-threatening-kill-us-congresswoman]https://www.justice.gov/u…-kill-us-congresswoman[/link]

Quote from CudaRad

Yes, there are loons representing each Party, though killing the unborn is act of cowardice and irresponsibility a creed so much adopted by the Left as an act of inconvenience and selfishness. But that doesn’t matter now since…. a non-muslim hater is now a victim and HER religion is so sacred and more important that Life. Wow… Someone who states hatred remarks based on her Religious beliefs is now a victim of her own Mouth. Wrong? Yes… deserved?.. No. Get a reaction back equal to hers own? Yes. What did she think would happen? Freely say anything she want’s and not get a reaction? She has a right to free speech even in hatred (though the left says you can’t do that now). That doesn’t protect you from Free hate speech coming back at you.
 
The dude will probably go to Jail. Maybe  he can get JUssie’s lawyer! Damn…. I ramble like SLN!

[kayla.meyer_144]

I don’t even slightly agree that “killing the unborn” is in any way similar to putting a bullet in the skull of a born person. I believe a woman’s life is more than just being a vessel, that her life comes second to an embryo. 
 
I’d also value arguments about concern fo rate unborn if there was some concern about the born. As I see it today, the born is the woman’s responsibility and even her punishment for getting pregnant. I don’t believe in men being required to protect pregnancies from “loose” or “careless” or “murderous” women. So far parthenogenesis hasn’t been shown possible in human birth therefore it takes 2 for pregnancy. And in the case of rape, particularly to minors I don’t believe the girl should be required to bear the product of her rape. 
 
Then there are frozen embryos. Must they all be born?
 
The issue isn’t as simplistic as argued. There are other concerns than just an embryo’s “happiness.” I believe the already born are more important than an embryo.
 
But this thread is about hate, specifically Ilhan Omar hatred because she is a Muslim. If you want to argue your topic please start another thread.

[19462008]

Quote from Frumious

I don’t even slightly agree that “killing the unborn” is in any way similar to putting a bullet in the skull of a born person. I believe a woman’s life is more than just being a vessel, that her life comes second to an embryo. 

I’d also value arguments about concern fo rate unborn if there was some concern about the born. As I see it today, the born is the woman’s responsibility and even her punishment for getting pregnant. I don’t believe in men being required to protect pregnancies from “loose” or “careless” or “murderous” women. So far parthenogenesis hasn’t been shown possible in human birth therefore it takes 2 for pregnancy. And in the case of rape, particularly to minors I don’t believe the girl should be required to bear the product of her rape. 

Then there are frozen embryos. Must they all be born?

The issue isn’t as simplistic as argued. There are other concerns than just an embryo’s “happiness.” I believe the already born are more important than an embryo.

But this thread is about hate, specifically Ilhan Omar hatred because she is a Muslim. If you want to argue your topic please start another thread.

If you would have read further. I made my point about Omar. Funny OUR hatred for her? What about her hatred for Israel? Her quiet hatred for Non-Muslims. She won’t defend a woman who does not follow Sharia law. You can’t trust a Rabid Dog. I think you got it backwards Frumi. You would not be welcomed in her home or her Mosque.

[btomba_77]

[b]Jewish Democrats Consider Condemning Ilhan Omar[/b][/h1]  
 
[link=https://www.jta.org/2021/06/09/politics/jewish-democratic-lawmakers-consider-condemning-ilhan-omar-for-likening-hamas-to-israel-and-us]Jewish Telegraph Agency[/link]: Jewish Democrats in the U.S. House met Wednesday to discuss antisemitism. The 25 members of the unofficial caucus ended up fulminating about a fellow Democrat, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, for appearing to liken Hamas and the Taliban to Israel and the United States.
 
Said Omar: We must have the same level of accountability and justice for all victims of crimes against humanity, Omar posted. We have seen unthinkable atrocities committed by the U.S., Hamas, Israel, Afghanistan, and the Taliban.
 
A number of lawmakers at the meeting want to name Omar in a statement saying that her claim discredited the party.

 

[19462008]

I do it tonight thanks. 

[19462008]

Quote from kpack123

Cuda

Have you been to West Virginia?

Nope I have not. What about it? 

[btomba_77]

[link=https://twitter.com/MorningConsult/status/1405167967801950215]https://twitter.com/Morni…us/1405167967801950215[/link]

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4AoN0iVkAEZ_Iw?format=jpg&name=4096×4096[/img]

Very interesting.

[link=https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/16/ilhan-omar-marjorie-taylor-greene-antisemitism-polling/]https://morningconsult.co…-antisemitism-polling/[/link]

[h1]Voters Are More Likely to See Antisemitism in Ilhan Omars Latest Comments if They Know She Made Them[/h1] [h2]Name, party identification appear more influential to Republicans than Democrats when it comes to perceptions of bigotry[/h2]  

[btomba_77]

Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) fired back at House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) after he vowed to remove Omar from her committee posts if elected Speaker, The Hill reports.

Said Omar: From the moment I was elected, the Republican Party has made it their mission to use fear, xenophobia, Islamophobia and racism to target me on the House Floor and through millions of dollars of campaign ads.

She added: Whether it is Marjorie Taylor Greene holding a gun next to my head in campaign ads or Donald Trump threatening to send me back to my country (despite the fact that I have been a proud citizen of the United States for more than 20 years), this constant stream of hate has led to hundreds of death threats and credible plots against me and my family.