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  • US rads can now work in Canada easier Opinions?

    Posted by ns1990 on April 15, 2023 at 8:09 am

    Hi
    I am a Canadian rad and have never worked in the US so I am US rad naive.  Hence my post here:
     
    Some Canadian provinces have recently made it easier for US trained rads to work in Canada without supervision or extra exams.  This is in response to post-pandemic recovery.
     
    I do know that US rad reimbursements took a hit during Obamacare.  Canada reimburses their rads at a substantially higher rate than US rads it seems (correct me if I am wrong).
     
    The question: what is the opinion of the US rads here.  Are Canadian jobs more attractive than US jobs?  Is this policy change going to result in an influx of US rads to work in Canada?  
     
    thanks

    buckeyeguy replied 1 year, 5 months ago 12 Members · 16 Replies
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  • btomba_77

    Member
    April 15, 2023 at 8:20 am

    I’m a special case in that I own a place in Ontario and spend a lot of time up north.
     
    I absolutely plan to look into the possibility of taking on some teleradiology work.
     
    Not sure if I’ll actually do it … but worth looking into.
     
     

    • ds_428_213

      Member
      April 15, 2023 at 9:56 am

      Do you have to be on Canadian soil to read (and be reimbursed)? I would imagine you do.

      I dont think the floodgates will open and US rads will by rushing to move to Canada. But, there will people like Dergon that already spend some of their time in Canada and this makes sense for them to be able to work while they are there. There will also be people that would like to move to Canada for family, political, etc reasons and lowering the barrier to entry without having to jump through hoops with extra exams might just be enough for them to make the move.

      I dont see the average young American radiologist uprooting their family to move to Canada to make more money and pay more in taxes. I also dont see the average older American radiologist wanting to make that move as they wind down their career, unless it is for family reasons.

      To the OP – how do reimbursements work in Canada? Everything is Fee For Service paid directly by the Canadian Govt?

      • sarah.r.huntington

        Member
        April 15, 2023 at 10:03 am

        Quote from Alpha Angle

        Do you have to be on Canadian soil to read (and be reimbursed)? I would imagine you do.

         
        In general, yes.
         

        To the OP – how do reimbursements work in Canada? Everything is Fee For Service paid directly by the Canadian Govt?

        Yes, 99% of reimbursements will be through the single-payer system from the Govt.
         
        For the most common studies in clinics (x-ray, US) the reimbursement is probably similar to the US. Not sure how taxes would work but Canadian income taxes are on average higher than in the US.

        • ThePreyingManta

          Member
          April 15, 2023 at 10:23 am

          Can you point me in the direction of where these changes are described? I.e. which provinces and what are the changes exactly. I tried searching google but didn’t come up with much. Thank you

          • btomba_77

            Member
            April 15, 2023 at 11:02 am

            Quote from Paracanthurus

            Can you point me in the direction of where these changes are described? I.e. which provinces and what are the changes exactly. I tried searching google but didn’t come up with much. Thank you

            [link=https://www.cpso.on.ca/News/News-Articles/CPSO-Removes-Barriers-for-Internationally-Educated?fbclid=IwAR1Ov8jxV7k0MAgH1T-HnB_gUqbvEMOi1gFEtCXB20SLm3R0EdQ9Jz0Ir5o]https://www.cpso.on.ca/Ne…CXB20SLm3R0EdQ9Jz0Ir5o[/link]
             
             

            • ThePreyingManta

              Member
              April 15, 2023 at 11:14 am

              Thanks!

              • smfst7_929

                Member
                April 15, 2023 at 9:22 pm

                Canadian rads pulling 800k? Doubt it

                • andy.lippman_422

                  Member
                  April 16, 2023 at 12:58 am

                  Quote from sartoriusBIG

                  Canadian rads pulling 800k? Doubt it

                  Why are you surprised? Canadian rads do very, very well. And at those income brackets the taxes are not that different from the US. Except you actually get stuff for your taxes.

                  • JohnnyFever

                    Member
                    April 16, 2023 at 2:13 pm

                    Do Canadian radiologists really earn more? I could see this being true for highly desirable urban locations, academics, or the VA. Hard to imagine them significantly beating the US in a good private practice.

                    • sraghuvanshi1

                      Member
                      April 16, 2023 at 2:22 pm

                      I just looked up Canadian taxes and it seems like in some provinces you’d do better with a radiologist income than in California or NYC.

                    • cchandc

                      Member
                      April 16, 2023 at 3:02 pm

                      Quote from golden gate

                      I just looked up Canadian taxes and it seems like in some provinces you’d do better with a radiologist income than in California or NYC.

                      lol, you’d probably do better anywhere else too!

                    • ranweiss

                      Member
                      April 16, 2023 at 5:31 pm

                      Multiple family  members in canada here, many docs.
                       
                      Depends on where in canada apparently. Bc of shortage in the rural regions apparently docs can do fairly well and make similar to PP Us, but they are outliers.
                       
                      In popular regions like montreal, vancouver, toronto, you’re worse off than similar popular areas in the states, typically. That being said, rads apparently still make 400k or more easy throughout canada, which is more than I expected. ER docs apparently do very well too. the GP’s get pretty screwed. 

                    • janamicb_883

                      Member
                      April 17, 2023 at 6:38 am

                      Which provinces allow this? And does Quebec require dictations in French?

                    • buckeyeguy

                      Member
                      April 17, 2023 at 11:26 am

                      If we could read from other countries I’d consider it, even with high taxes.

                    • ranweiss

                      Member
                      April 18, 2023 at 6:04 am

                      Quote from Dream Run

                      If we could read from other countries I’d consider it, even with high taxes.

                       
                      Same……would love to spend some time in europe. That being said, I would never support such measures. That’s a slippery slope and only a skip and a jump away from some radiologist setting up shop with a bunch of foreign radiologists interpreting imaging under his/her license…would be a cash cow. Before medicare shut that down, it was already happening in india. 

                    • buckeyeguy

                      Member
                      April 19, 2023 at 11:33 am

                      Quote from ar123

                      Quote from Dream Run

                      If we could read from other countries I’d consider it, even with high taxes.

                      Same……would love to spend some time in europe. That being said, I would never support such measures. That’s a slippery slope and only a skip and a jump away from some radiologist setting up shop with a bunch of foreign radiologists interpreting imaging under his/her license…would be a cash cow. Before medicare shut that down, it was already happening in india. 

                       
                      But I’m saying I’ll do it for Canada if they allow me, and they can deal with all of the safety or restrictive measures that prove it’s just me, etc.