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UPENN rad residency
UPenn Radiology department performs a poorly designed study comparing TWO radiology techs with TWO months of training to radiology residents on 49 radiographs.
Study did not get IRB approval or consent from residents bc listed as PQI project. Residents didnt even know. And now its published widely that UPenn residents suck.
I would avoid this program like the plague.
[link=https://www.diagnosticimaging.com/view/radiology-extenders-outperform-radiology-residents-with-chest-x-ray-interpretations]https://www.diagnosticima…-x-ray-interpretations[/link]
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Wow! Shameful
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Quote from 67ED5CC042435
I feel bad for the rad residents at Penn. Not a good look.
I responded to the same post in the medical student forum
I blame the chair, a very experienced investigator; not the program-
Chair doesn’t care about the field, just seeing their name in print again
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The chair has a significant interest in AI and replacing humans with machines
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This is a crock of ****
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Haters, you all would jump at the chance to train there
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Probably would have before. Not anymore.
Only place in the country you risk national humiliation and future career jeopardy.
I hope those residents file lawsuits.
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The point of radiology residency is not to prelim as many studies as possible. It is to learn as much as possible from each case, look things up, and ask questions during a read out. I am assuming that is the main reason the residents took longer. This study is disgraceful. They are training/enabling “radiology extenders”. This is a bad idea for many reasons, but the biggest is that there is ample precedent in medicine of letting other less trained people do some of the work you don’t want to do, and then eventually having them take over all of your work (CRNAs ED/IM/PCP PAs, and NPs.) There is nothing morally wrong with protecting the intellectual property of your specialty from “radiology encroachers”. Academic radiology truly has some of the laziest most entitled people you can find, and I suspect this program is full of those types…
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Occasionally on call I’ll have a CT tech call me and tell me they think a patient has a dissection.
UPENN publishes:
“CT tech able to appropriately diagnose aortic dissection before senior resident”
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Abstract for the next journal article:
“Chimpanzees could be trained to run faster to the hospital coffee cart for ‘banana-time’ at 10am than experienced UPENN academic radiologists.” -
“ai takes one billion percent less bathroom breaks than UPENNs finest resident”
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If there is any delay in dictating a study and/or finding an abnormality, it is generally a work flow issue, not a competence or knowledge issue.
Along the same vein, although not an “extender” by any means, this is similar to the neurosurgery resident claiming he can detect a subdural hematoma faster when he is at the scanner, and meanwhile the rads resident on call is juggling a code stroke with the neurology team and another code 1 trauma and doesn’t get to see the subdural case until a few minutes later.
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