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D-Fi demanding the verbatim transcript of the call.
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Pompeo issued subpoenas for Ukraine documents
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Chair of the FEC explaining why DOJ was wrong to conclude that Trumps solicitation of Ukraines help in his campaign is not a campaign finance crime.
[link=https://twitter.com/EllenLWeintraub/status/1177335224662921226]https://twitter.com/Ellen…us/1177335224662921226[/link]
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From this point forward I ask the AM community to refer to the Ukrainian President as “Monica Zelensky”.
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Ray Zelensky
Dan Ackroyds character from tommy boy
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[link=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/29/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-biden-trump-impeachment]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/29/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-biden-trump-impeachment[/link]
[h1][i]Guardian[/i]: Ukraine sources detail attempt to construct case against Biden[/h1]
[ul][*]Source: prosecutor may have fed Trump ally Giuliani altered information [/ul]
By his own account, Giulianis fixation with the country began last November when, [link=https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/rudy-giuliani-interview/index.html]he told Fox News[/link], he was approached by a very significant distinguished investigator. He has not named the investigator, though the whistleblowers complaint and other sources have illuminated close ties between the former mayor, Yuriy Lutsenko, who until last month was Ukraines chief prosecutor, and Lutsenkos predecessor, Viktor Shokin.
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[Lutsenko] strongly needed some political ally {after the death of a young anti-corruption activist in an acid attack} , he believed that Giuliani could convey specific messages to Trump, and he created this message to become more interesting to the American establishment, said a law enforcement source familiar with the Giuliani-Lutsenko connection.
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According to the Guardians source, Lutsenko [b]appeared [/b]in conversation with Giuliani t[b]o have invented a dont prosecute list [/b]he claimed was given to him by the then US ambassador to Kyiv, Marie Yovanovitch news of which apparently made its way up to Trump.
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Under t{the Trump/Giuliani conspiracy} theory, Biden wanted Shokin out because he was investigating the vice-presidents son, Hunter Biden, who sat on the board of a major Ukrainian gas company, Burisma. Several attempts to [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/there-s-no-evidence-trump-s-biden-ukraine-accusations-what-n1057851]fact check[/link] the story that Biden acted corruptly to protect his son have found it to be [link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-16/ukraine-prosecutor-says-no-evidence-of-wrongdoing-by-bidens]false[/link].
Here too, there is a suggestion that Lutsenko may have intentionally misrepresented the Burisma investigation to Giuliani, raising doubts about Hunter Bidens activities, as a ruse to catch the attention of Trump.
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As the Ukraine affair has deepened, the extent of Guilianis efforts to put flesh on the bones of his anti-Biden conspiracy theory has become clear. In addition to his meetings with Lutsenko, he made contact with a further four former Ukrainian prosecutors, including a Skype call to Shokin.Those efforts reached fever pitch in May when Giuliani laid plans to visit the president-elect, Volodymyr Zelenskiy. Serhiy Leshchenko, a journalist and former member of parliament who advised Zelenskiy during his campaign, said he believed Giuliani was urgently trying to meet the president-elect before his 20 May inauguration, after which their interaction could be restricted by protocol.
We know what Giuliani wanted to talk to Zelenskiy about because Giuliani, true to form, told us. In an interview with the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/us/politics/giuliani-ukraine-trump.html]New York Times[/link] on 9 May, he said he wanted to encourage the new government to investigate the Bidens, saying that information will be very, very helpful to my client.
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So basically
Trump and Giuliani were looking for a new conspiracy theory to take down a political opponent
Trump by involvement personally abused his power by connecting it to foreign aid
Not a very complicated story
Watch the trumpers start trying to throw all these red herrings out their in attempts to distract
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Not a very complicated story
That is the biggest reason the needle has moved on impeachment with these revelation while it didn’t on the Mueller probe.
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This is like the Trump Tower meeting .. except if Trump was in the room, clearly initiated the contact and there was a transcript of it.
The American public doesn’t need to understand a complicated series of events and intermediaries to get the jist of the malfeasance.
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[link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/29/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-testify-congress/3811971002/]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/29/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-testify-congress/3811971002/[/link]
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You know what
You dont believe the sheet your spewing
Right now you are just regurgitating talking points
In a few weeks your only argument is going to be…….. yeah trump did it but so what. I dont care
Just watch
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Trump’s nepotism has been infuriating to many on the Right. I, for instance, fault him unforgivably for having given his daughter and son-in-law positions ranking any higher than gardeners for the White House. But, considering the candidates the Democrats have decided to run, he’s still worth it.
Now, if you guys had the sense to run Delaney, we might be having a different conversation.
However, Trumps kids are visible and accessible. The left Media is constantly watching for any slip ups. Not like Joe and Hunter secretly flying over to Ukraine in AirForce 2 to sign a deal with 1.+ Billion dollars and a consultant fee of 50k per month on a subject he has no experience in. Wait… was a Hunter a government employee? Nooooo he wasn’t! He got a free ride on Daddies jet and a secretive job based on Daddy’s influence. But once Sony Boy got into trouble… Daddy used his power. LET THE VIDEO SPEAK for it’self.
[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA–dj2-CY]https://www.youtubeb.com/watch?v=UXA–dj2-CY[/link]Ummm, Trump has been a $3 bill since the 1970’s and everyone in New York & New Jersey know that & a mjor reason why he did not win either state. ecause you never knew is not my lookout. The sleaze thing has been continuous.
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Trump’s nepotism has been infuriating to many on the Right. I, for instance, fault him unforgivably for having given his daughter and son-in-law positions ranking any higher than gardeners for the White House. But, considering the candidates the Democrats have decided to run, he’s still worth it.
Now, if you guys had the sense to run Delaney, we might be having a different conversation.
However, Trumps kids are visible and accessible. The left Media is constantly watching for any slip ups. Not like Joe and Hunter secretly flying over to Ukraine in AirForce 2 to sign a deal with 1.+ Billion dollars and a consultant fee of 50k per month on a subject he has no experience in. Wait… was a Hunter a government employee? Nooooo he wasn’t! He got a free ride on Daddies jet and a secretive job based on Daddy’s influence. But once Sony Boy got into trouble… Daddy used his power. LET THE VIDEO SPEAK for it’self.
[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA–dj2-CY]https://www.youtubeb.com/watch?v=UXA–dj2-CY[/link]Ummm, Trump has been a $3 bill since the 1970’s and everyone in New York & New Jersey know that & a mjor reason why he did not win either state. ecause you never knew is not my lookout. The sleaze thing has been continuous.
You mean your advice is to trust a con man becasue his victims love him?
Ummmmm. back at ya. So he’s done that since the 70’s and the left just let him slide? No charges, no allegations? Ummmm. They must have been taking Money too then. It appears New York, New Jersey Politicians are the sleaze just a much. Trust a con man because his victims love him? Kinda like Trust a nice appearing well spoken President who sexually abused, took advantage of and demeanor 5 Woman while in public service?
I love the term… EVERYBODY knew it. If so, then… who got their hand greased on the left. Let them come forward and confess?
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Palms do not to be greased in order to avoid prosecution. Sleaze and criminal are 2 different things, at least in New York and New Jersey. Maybe your state thinks differently? But then you religious folk think Donald is the 2nd coming so not exactly objectivity there, guilt and sleaze has nothing to do with your support of him.
Let’s see, New York banks stopped lending to him becasue of his habit of losing other people’s money on a grand scale, like in the 1990’s losing a few dollars short of $1 billion. Now that’s business talent.
So where did he get his money afterwards? Deutsche Bank, that’s who. So I wonder who bankrolled Trump behind the scenes. I’m sure Putin knows nothing about that.
Here is timeline of Trump investigation form USA Today, not too liberal a rag I hope.
[link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/01/timeline-events-related-russia-investigation/914959001/]https://www.usatoday.com/…vestigation/914959001/[/link]-
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Palms do not to be greased in order to avoid prosecution. Sleaze and criminal are 2 different things, at least in New York and New Jersey. Maybe your state thinks differently? But then you religious folk think Donald is the 2nd coming so not exactly objectivity there, guilt and sleaze has nothing to do with your support of him.
Let’s see, New York banks stopped lending to him becasue of his habit of losing other people’s money on a grand scale, like in the 1990’s losing a few dollars short of $1 billion. Now that’s business talent.
So where did he get his money afterwards? Deutsche Bank, that’s who. So I wonder who bankrolled Trump behind the scenes. I’m sure Putin knows nothing about that.
Here is timeline of Trump investigation form USA Today, not too liberal a rag I hope.
[link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/01/timeline-events-related-russia-investigation/914959001/]https://www.usatoday.com/…vestigation/914959001/[/link]
The 3rd grade timeline outline was useful. When Trump was a private citizen, he could do whatever the law allowed regarding foreign financial investors. So what? NOT Like Joe and Hunter. Joe was the VP and used his power to get money for his kid and stop an investigation on him and his kid. Again, Documented, came out of his mouth, watch the Video. And I was wrong in my prior statement, Hunter got 86k per month NOT 50k. That happened 10 days after Papa and Son left. How convenient and timely.
A Bolshevik, is a Bolshevik… is a… Bolshevik.
Let’s see who be friendly with the Russians in the past as well:
[link=https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/04/clinton-russia-ties-bill-hillary-sold-out-us-interests-putin-regime/]https://www.nationalrevie…nterests-putin-regime/[/link]
[b][i]”By 2012, Skolkovo boasted 28 Key Partners in the U.S., Europe, and Russia. Among these major supporting organizations, three-fifths had donated or pledged funds to the Clinton Foundation or paid speaking fees to Bill Clinton. According to [i][link=http://www.g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Report-Skolkvovo-08012016-2.pdf]From Russia with Money[/link][/i], an August 2016 study by the Government Accountability Institute, these 17 Key Partner entities donated between $6.5 million and $23.5 million to the Clinton Foundation.”[/i][/b]
THAT BE REAL MONEY CHUMP. And yet…..Nothing from your side. Again, the Left’s Motto: “Do as I say, not as I do”-
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Hunter Biden on the board is a bad look and for sure shows how people with money and influence can get the advantages. The children of rich people get the advantage everywhere on earth.
The Ukraine prosecutor was seen as unanimously corrupt by the Ukrainian people and the rest of the world. Getting that person fired couldve easily hurt Biden but theres nothing there.
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[h1][b]2nd Official Is Weighing Whether to Blow the Whistle on Trumps Ukraine Dealings[/b][/h1]
The official, a member of the intelligence community, was interviewed by the inspector general to corroborate the original whistle-blowers account.
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/second-trump-whistleblower.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/second-trump-whistleblower.html[/link]
A second intelligence official who was alarmed by President Trumps dealings with Ukraine is weighing whether to file his own formal whistle-blower complaint and testify to Congress, according to two people briefed on the matter.
The official has more direct information about the events than the first whistle-blower, [link=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html?module=inline]whose complaint[/link] that Mr. Trump was using his power to get Ukraine to investigate his political rivals touched off an impeachment inquiry. The second official is among those interviewed by the intelligence community inspector general to corroborate the allegations of the original whistle-blower, one of the people said.
The inspector general, Michael Atkinson, [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/white-house-subpoenas-impeachment.html?module=inline]briefed lawmakers[/link] privately on Friday about how he substantiated the whistle-blowers account. It was not clear whether he told lawmakers that the second official is considering filing a complaint.
A new complaint, particularly from someone closer to the events, would potentially add further credibility to the account of the first whistle-blower, a [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html?module=inline]C.I.A. officer[/link] who was detailed to the National Security Council at one point. He [link=https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/26/us/politics/whistle-blower-complaint.html?module=inline]said[/link] that he relied on information from more than half a dozen American officials to compile his allegations about Mr. Trumps campaign to solicit foreign election interference that could benefit him politically.
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[b]Pompeo Was on Trumps Call with Ukraine President [/b]
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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was among administration officials who listened in on the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a disclosure that ties the State Department more closely to the House impeachment inquiry, the [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/mcconnell-envisions-senate-trial-if-house-passes-articles-of-impeachment-11569865002?mod=hp_lead_pos1]Wall Street Journal[/link] reports.
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[b]Barr personally asked foreign officials to aid inquiry into CIA, FBI activities in the 2016 election[/b][/h1]
Attorney General William P. Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that President Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intelligence agencies examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-barr-personally-asked-foreign-officials-to-aid-inquiry-into-cia-fbi-activities-in-2016/2019/09/30/d50cd5c4-e3a5-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html]https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-barr-personally-asked-foreign-officials-to-aid-inquiry-into-cia-fbi-activities-in-2016/2019/09/30/d50cd5c4-e3a5-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html[/link]-
[b]Pompeo blocks State Dept Personnel from responding to Congress subpoenas [/b]
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about 4 hours later…
[b]State Dept inspector general requests ‘urgent’ Ukraine briefing on Capitol Hill[/b]
[link=https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/state-dept-inspector-general-expected-urgent-ukraine-briefing/story?id=65991911]https://abcnews.go.com/Po…fing/story?id=65991911[/link]
Might be a bit of daylight between the SoS and the IG
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[b][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464362-cnn-trump-promised-china-hed-stay-silent-on-hong-kong-protests-report]Trump promised China he’d stay silent on Hong Kong protests[/link], moved call records to secret server[/b]
President Trump in a June phone call with Chinese President Xi Jinping promised that he would remain silent over the ongoing pro-Democracy protests in Hong Kong while trade talks were still ongoing, according to [link=https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/trump-xi-hong-kong-protests/index.html]a CNN report[/link].
The promise is in stark contrast to the U.S. long-running stance on advocating for human rights in China.
Like phone calls that Trump had with Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and Russia, his phone call with Xi was also reportedly transferred to a highly-classified, codeword-protected system.
Trump’s agreement with Xi reportedly led the State Department to cancel two stateside speaking engagements of Kurt Tong, the then-U.S. general counsel in Hong Kong.
The Financial Times was [link=https://www.ft.com/content/7946df52-e5f1-11e9-b112-9624ec9edc59]first to report[/link] Trump’s promise.
State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus told the Times that she believed the report “was based off of anonymous reports, and that’s not something that we ever validate here at the State Department. I don’t see much truth to that.”
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464363-fec-chairwoman-confirms-accepting-opposition-research-from-foreign-national]FEC chairwoman confirms accepting ‘opposition research’ from foreign national is illegal[/link] The Hill
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/464363-fec-chairwoman-confirms-accepting-opposition-research-from-foreign-national]FEC chairwoman confirms accepting ‘opposition research’ from foreign national is illegal[/link] The Hill
Tell that to Hillary.-
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[image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQ4KdbeWkAAp0NS.jpg[/image]
What thing of value did trump ‘receive’ from a foreign party ?
It is documented that the Clinton campaign received (false) derogatory information from a foreign party. Or is that all a-ok because they paid for the fake dossier ?
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What thing of value did trump ‘receive’ from a foreign party ?
It is documented that the Clinton campaign received (false) derogatory information from a foreign party. Or is that all a-ok because they paid for the fake dossier ?
Posting some memes is not going to get you past the facts.
You mean the Fusion GPS dossier solicited & paid for by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative paper? & isnt Fusion GPS an American company, based in D.C., not a foreign party?
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You mean the Fusion GPS dossier solicited & paid for by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative paper? & isnt Fusion GPS an American company, based in D.C., not a foreign party?
Gotta get yor facts straight & not spread alternate facts as real.
Steele is a foreign party. The russians he bribed to create the fake derogatory information are foreign parties. Despite what Rudy Gulliani said, laundering the money through a US entity doesn’t make the dossier a domestic product.-
John Fuselgang: We’ve now gone from ‘I am not a crook’ to ‘a crook is not a crook.’
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You mean the Fusion GPS dossier solicited & paid for by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative paper? & isnt Fusion GPS an American company, based in D.C., not a foreign party?
Gotta get yor facts straight & not spread alternate facts as real.
Steele is a foreign party. The russians he bribed to create the fake derogatory information are foreign parties. Despite what Rudy Gulliani said, laundering the money through a US entity doesn’t make the dossier a domestic product.
Ah, so wait a minute, the Fusion GPS document is not legit because Steele is British, BUT! anything Trump got in 2016 & most especially what he would get today soliciting from the Ukrainians & Chinese WOULD BE legit because…why?
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Ah, so wait a minute, the Fusion GPS document is not legit because Steele is British, BUT! anything Trump got in 2016 & most especially what he would get today soliciting from the Ukrainians & Chinese WOULD BE legit because…why?
I knew you wouldn’t get it. I can’t make you understand this.
For Hillary to go to a foreign party to manufacture evidence which her cronies in the FBI could then use to manufacture an investigation was most definitely wrong.
For Trump to solicit other countries (not individuals mind you) to dredge up dirt on his opponent is a cheesy move, but that’s about it. The extent of the Biden family corruption was already well known and the diehard biden supporters are not going to care. Their attitude is [i]’so what if he drowns newborn puppies, he is better than trump !'[/i].
The only reason the dems are so up in arms about trump trying to dig up dirt is because they know that there is plenty of dirt to be found.
Hunter cracks me up. What a trailer-trash story! So his brother (the smart and successful one) dies and leaves behind an attractive widow. Hunter dumps his wife of 22 years and shacks up with his brothers widow. Next thing, he has moved on and in an episode of ‘the 90 day fiance’ he brings in some lady 20 years his junior from abroad. Oh, in between he knocked up some other love interest in Arkansas.-
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Biden is probably one of the few career politicians who didnt get rich off of his political connections
And you POS republicans who lick the arse of the most corrupt president in our history…….. are somehow trying to say Biden is worse than trump
Not only is that disingenuous its just pathetically sad
Never will your types regain any credibility
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….. and Donald Trump jr leaves his wife and five kids and moves in with the tranny- look a like
….. but thats ok and real Christian
Yep I got it
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Never will your types regain any credibility
Tell me more about Russian collusion, Trump’s mental health crisis, Trump’s support for Nazis, and the Steele dossier.
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Putin/Trump jr
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[h1][b]$50K Bounty Offered for Whistleblower Identity[/b][/h1]
Lawyers for the whistleblower said certain individuals had offered a $50,000 bounty for any information on the whistleblowers identity after the official complained to a government watchdog that President Trump had pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate his political rival, Joe Biden, [link=https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2019-10-07/us-authorities-protecting-whistleblower-in-trump-ukraine-matter-source]Reuters[/link] reports.
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Ah, so wait a minute, the Fusion GPS document is not legit because Steele is British, BUT! anything Trump got in 2016 & most especially what he would get today soliciting from the Ukrainians & Chinese WOULD BE legit because…why?
I knew you wouldn’t get it. I can’t make you understand this.
For Hillary to go to a foreign party to manufacture evidence which her cronies in the FBI could then use to manufacture an investigation was most definitely wrong.
For Trump to solicit other countries (not individuals mind you) to dredge up dirt on his opponent is a cheesy move, but that’s about it. The extent of the Biden family corruption was already well known and the diehard biden supporters are not going to care. Their attitude is [i]’so what if he drowns newborn puppies, he is better than trump !'[/i].
The only reason the dems are so up in arms about trump trying to dig up dirt is because they know that there is plenty of dirt to be found.
Now you are just making stuff completely up out of fat air. And you believe your own BS. Are you that credulous?
1. Hillary did NOT go any foreign country to manufacture evidence of any sort nor did her “cronies” in the FBI. You obviously are ignorant of the facts. The Washington Beacon, a conservative publication, hired Fusion GPS to get “dirt,” AKA “opposition research” on Donald in October 2015. That’s the origin story of the “Steele Dossier,” NOT Hillary or her “cronies.” When Trump became the Republican, candidate the Republican owner of the Beacon cancelled the contract in May 2016 for the information from Fusion GPS. In April 2016, the DNC and Hillary’s campaign also and each separately hired Fusion GPS to gather “opposition research.” Interestingly, Russian intelligence itself has tried to argue that the dossier is inaccurate. Some parts of the report have been verified as true.
[link=https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html]https://www.cnn.com/2017/…sier-update/index.html[/link]
For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN.
None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.
[link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/mueller-report-dismisses-many-steele-dossier-claims-11555710147]https://www.wsj.com/artic…ier-claims-11555710147[/link]
Some portions of the dossier have been validated. U.S. intelligence agencies concluded more than two years ago that Russia had sought to help Mr. Trump win the White House and denigrate his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, as the dossier asserts.
And some of its views proved prescient, including that Russia saw his election as an opportunity to seed discord between the U.S. and its Western allies.
But many of the validated assertions were already percolating in the press and Western intelligence agencies by the time Mr. Steele began compiling the dossier in the summer of 2016, including that Russia was trying to harm Mrs. Clinton.
2. There is zero – ZERO – evidence of Biden corruption and interference in Ukraine. Perhaps you should explain the timeline and circumstances of this “known” corruption.
3. Trump’s actions are way beyond “cheezy.” He is using the power of the Office and the offer of sell ing defensive weapons to Ukraine as a direct inducement to open an investigation against a political rival. AND, he also promised Xi to not “notice” any actions against Hong Kong democracy dissidents if Xi open an investigation against Biden. In both cases there is no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden. It’s a fishing expedition bordering on soliciting manufacturing false information in both cases. And there are allegedly more conversations to otehr world leaders in the identical mold of requests to open investigations against Biden.
If there is “plenty of dirt” against Biden where is it and what does it say?
You believe your own misinformation propaganda. There is no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden.
Show it.
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[b][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/464362-cnn-trump-promised-china-hed-stay-silent-on-hong-kong-protests-report]Trump promised China he’d stay silent on Hong Kong protests[/link], moved call records to secret server[/b]
President Trump in a June phone call with Chinese President Xi Jinping promised that he would remain silent over the ongoing pro-Democracy protests in Hong Kong while trade talks were still ongoing, according to [link=https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/trump-xi-hong-kong-protests/index.html]a CNN report[/link].
The promise is in stark contrast to the U.S. long-running stance on advocating for human rights in China.
Like phone calls that Trump had with Ukraine, Saudi Arabia and Russia, his phone call with Xi was also reportedly transferred to a highly-classified, codeword-protected system.
Trump’s agreement with Xi reportedly led the State Department to cancel two stateside speaking engagements of Kurt Tong, the then-U.S. general counsel in Hong Kong.
The Financial Times was [link=https://www.ft.com/content/7946df52-e5f1-11e9-b112-9624ec9edc59]first to report[/link] Trump’s promise.
State Department spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus told the Times that she believed the report “was based off of anonymous reports, and that’s not something that we ever validate here at the State Department. I don’t see much truth to that.”
Effing amazing, the president “of the Free World” promising not to notice if Hong Kong protesters are violently put down as they protest for democracy. And what has he promised MBS? And Putin is he’s so willing to sell America down the drain for less than a few shekels and pieces of silver?
No wonder they all wanted these conversations locked up!
Do Trump’s kneepads have the Presidential seal on them? Or the American flag?
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Our guy is worse than Hillary
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CIA’s top lawyer made ‘criminal referral’ on whistleblower’s complaint about Trump conduct
Folks should have told trump when he became president that its a bad idea to create enemies in the intelligence services. Those people have a long memory, know that they will be there after you are gone and have the means to hurt you.-
Derrrrrrrrr Im a Republican
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In April 2016, the DNC and Hillary’s campaign also and each separately hired Fusion GPS to gather “opposition research.”
‘Separately’, lol.
Thanks for confirming that Hillary and the DNC paid for the smear-job. Her people in the FBI then used it to get warrants against folks around the competing candidate. That banana republic corruption was well documented in the Mueller report. I read it in the original, did you ?
2. There is zero – ZERO – evidence of Biden corruption and interference in Ukraine. Perhaps you should explain the timeline and circumstances of this “known” corruption.
Hunter Biden, whose only competence is ‘where to score booze cocaine and lose women’, picking up a no-show job from a government connected oligarch is a corrupt transaction any way you cut it.
3. Trump’s actions are way beyond “cheezy.” He is using the power of the Office and the offer of sell ing defensive weapons to Ukraine as a direct inducement to open an investigation against a political rival. AND, he also promised Xi to not “notice” any actions against Hong Kong democracy dissidents if Xi open an investigation against Biden. In both cases there is no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden. It’s a fishing expedition bordering on soliciting manufacturing false information in both cases. And there are allegedly more conversations to otehr world leaders in the identical mold of requests to open investigations against Biden.
Cheesy, that’s all. No money was ever witheld.
There is no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden.
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What makes you so angry and full of hate?
Seriously?
Did a liberal or a democrat do something to you that made you like you are?
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What makes you so angry and full of hate?
Seriously?
Did a liberal or a democrat do something to you that made you like you are?
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Happy and cheerful???????
Sounds like it
Maybe its time for you
To just sit back and rethink thingsJust sayin
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…. if you are fascinated with corruption and potential corruption with children of politicians you can easily do a little research about the Trump kids current recent dealings in Indonesia, uraguay, Philippines, India and China
Its all public record and you might relieve some of your anger towards hunter Biden but realizing that the current administration is by far the most corrupt in American history
Just sayin
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…. if you are fascinated with corruption and potential corruption with children of politicians you can easily do a little research about the Trump kids current recent dealings in Indonesia, uraguay, Philippines, India and China
Yup, that’s bad.
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Why do you hate hunter Biden so much?
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Yep. Family members, spouses, business partners, etc cashing in on their relationships with powerful people is ubiquitous in American business and politics.
It’s not particularly shocking when the Trump kids or Corey Lewandowski do it. It’s not shocking when Hunter Biden or Podesta does it.
It’s not “corruption” in the way we usually discuss it (or discussed it way back when 2 weeks ago before this story broke)
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So … back to Donald Trump ….
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Hey, what about McConnell’s wife cashing in too?
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Yep. Family members, spouses, business partners, etc cashing in on their relationships with powerful people is ubiquitous in American business and politics.
It’s not particularly shocking when the Trump kids or Corey Lewandowski do it. It’s not shocking when Hunter Biden or Podesta does it.
It’s not “corruption” in the way we usually discuss it (or discussed it way back when 2 weeks ago before this story broke)
So now we are down to:
– its ok for a president to lie in a deposition if he’s a democrat
– its ok for a president to have a sexual relationship with junior staff if he is a democrat
– its ok for a governor to have done something racist (like showing up in blackface) if he’s a democrat.
– its ok for a VP to use his office to steer business to his children if he is a democrat.
‘Moral high ground’ my foot.-
“If the left didn’t have double standards, they wouldn’t have any standards at all.”
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Putin/Pence 2024
Vlad will need mike to bring in the evangelicals
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You act like cigar/IB as if you just discovered something previously unknown, that the DNC and Hillary’s campaign hired Fusion GPS!
Congratulations on discovering long known information!
Yes, I read the Mueller report in full & apparently you did not understand it. Perhaps you can spell out the passages showing the “well-documented” banana republic corruption in the report?
Regarding Hunter, arguments about his Trump-like alleged womanizing just proves his manliness to people like you, no? As for getting paid for allegedly using Daddy’s name, the whole Trump family is doing that now! It’s good for Ivanka & brothers but evil for Hunter? And in any case, where is it illegal? That is your tripping point, no? It’s not illegal therefore nothing to see there.
Regarding China, making a deal to turn American backs on pro-democracy demonstrations in a Communist dictatorship for a favor in return like China creating an investigation out of fat air against a Trump political opponent is not exactly a long-standing American ideal. Maybe where you came from held that up as the ideal but it hasn’t been exactly an American ideal. That is a long standing practice in dictatorships around the word, past and present. I see you admire them like Trump.
And what puppies?
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[b]Trump Blames Rick Perry for Call to Ukraine President[/b][/h1]
President Trump told House Republicans that he made his now infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the urging of Energy Secretary Rick Perry a call Trump claimed he didnt even want to make, [link=https://www.axios.com/trump-blamed-rick-perry-call-ukraine-zelensky-8178447a-0374-4ac6-b321-a9454b0565d4.html?stream=top&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alerts_all]Axios[/link] reports.
Trump made these comments during a conference call with House members on Friday.
Said Trump: Not a lot of people know this but, I didnt even want to make the call. The only reason I made the call was because Rick asked me to.
Another source on the call said Trump added that more of this will be coming out in the next few days referring to Perry.-
Yes
Its rick Perrys fault that trump is fng stupid
Rudy was telling Ukraine they would get the money when they made up an investigation of Biden
But when trump took the call and said it directly….. that was the smoking gun
Fng dumbarse
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[b]Trump Blames Rick Perry for Call to Ukraine President[/b]
President Trump told House Republicans that he made his now infamous phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the urging of Energy Secretary Rick Perry a call Trump claimed he didnt even want to make, [link=https://www.axios.com/trump-blamed-rick-perry-call-ukraine-zelensky-8178447a-0374-4ac6-b321-a9454b0565d4.html?stream=top&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alerts_all]Axios[/link] reports.Quote from kpack123
YesIts rick Perrys fault that trump is fng stupid
Whoops …
[link=https://www.salon.com/2020/09/24/democrats-alert-inspector-general-that-gops-biden-probe-directly-implicated-perry-in-corruption/]https://www.salon.com/202…d-perry-in-corruption/[/link]
[h1]Democrats alert inspector general that GOP’s Biden probe directly implicated Perry in corruption[/h1] [h2]Republicans tried to smear Biden, but instead “succeeded in implicating former Secretary Perry in a corrupt scheme”[/h2]The [link=https://www.salon.com/2020/09/23/political-hit-job-gops-biden-report-littered-with-debunked-claims-and-russian-disinformation/]Republican report[/link] aimed at raising questions about the dealings of Democratic nominee Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden in Ukraine appears to have accidentally implicated former Energy Secretary [link=https://www.salon.com/2019/10/07/energy-secretary-rick-perry-denies-pressing-ukraine-on-energy-company-says-hes-not-resigning/]Rick Perry in an energy scheme in the foreign nation[/link], according to the top Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee.
Amos Hochstein, a member of the supervisory board at the state-owned Ukrainian energy firm Naftogaz, told lawmakers that Perry “inappropriately pressured the Ukrainian government” to place Texas oil executive Robert Bensh on the board of the company while officials at the Department of Energy pressured the government to sign a deal with a “private business entity connected to Mr. Bensh,” according to a [link=https://twitter.com/RonWyden/status/1308861317076443136]letter Wyden sent to Department of Energy Inspector General Teri Donaldson[/link].
Perry also pressured the Ukrainian government to place one of his longtime campaign supporters, Michael Bleyzer, on the board during a trip to Ukraine for President Volodymyr Zelensky’s inauguration in 2019, Wyden wrote. Bleyzer and his partner were later awarded a drilling contract in the country.-
Im stunned to hear that Salon still exists.
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[b]Trump Plans to Fire Heads of CIA, FBI and Defense[/b][/h1]
If President Trump wins re-election, hell move to immediately fire FBI Director Christopher Wray and also expects to replace CIA Director Gina Haspel and Defense Secretary Mark Esper, [link=https://www.axios.com/trump-firing-wray-haspel-esper-088cbd70-3524-4625-91f1-dbc985767c71.html]Axios[/link] reports.
The list of planned replacements is much longer, but these are Trumps priorities, starting with Wray.
Wray and Haspel are despised and distrusted almost universally in Trumps inner circle. He would have fired both already, one official said, if not for the political headaches of acting before Nov. 3.-
If Biden wins, he’ll fire them too! And the whole Cabinet!
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[link=https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-was-asked-to-lie-about-hunter-biden-admits-ukrainian-businessman-853krxgtz]Times of London[/link] –
Ukrainian Businessman says he was offered a US Visa and legal immunity in exchange for lying about Hunter Biden
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Rudy arrives for presser at the Ritz
[link=https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1325824833922490370?s=21]https://twitter.com/rexch…25824833922490370?s=21[/link]
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China Rejects Trumps Call to Investigate Biden:
China has rejected President Trumps call to investigate his Democrat rival Joe Biden and Bidens son, saying Beijing had no intention of intervening in U.S. domestic affairs, the South China Morning Post reports.
Said a foreign ministry spokesman: China has long pursued the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries. We have no intention of intervening in the domestic affairs of the United States. Our position is consistent and clear
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House Issues Subpoena to Sondland after being Blocked from Testifying:
After he was directed to not testify, the House committees leading an impeachment probe into President Trump issued a subpoena to Gordon Sondland, ambassador to the European Union, the Washington Postreports.
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Its all about the fight isnt it?
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Its all about the fight isnt it?
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Yes. At this point, it is.
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ABC News reports on a two-page memo, written by the whistleblower a day after Trumps call, describes one White House official who told the whistleblower Trump’s Ukraine call was frightening
[link=https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/whit…ry?id=66141284]https://abcnews.go.com/Po…/whit…ry?id=66141284[/link]at least one aide to the president feared that Trumps own words in the call were damning
“The official, who listened to the entirety of the phone call, was visibly shaken by what had transpired and seemed keen to inform a trusted colleague within the U.S. national security apparatus about the call,”
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He’s saying the Kurds didn’t help at Normandy. Trump has his head so far up his own arse.
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[h4][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465116-trump-asked-tillerson-to-interfere-in-doj-case-against-giuliani]Trump asked Tillerson to interfere in DOJ case against Giuliani client[/link][/h4]
That would be some fun testimony there.
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Dirty Rudy
[link]https://apple.news/ASMG4AJ7aS7WgovmSFZG_IQ[/link]
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[h4][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/465116-trump-asked-tillerson-to-interfere-in-doj-case-against-giuliani]Trump asked Tillerson to interfere in DOJ case against Giuliani client[/link][/h4]
That would be some fun testimony there.
I’m kind of recalling that grown ups in the room have got this Op-Ed. Tillerson seemed OK with speaking out a little bit but it’s time for some people to start stepping up. Tillerson, Mattis, McMaster etc….They should be in front of congress and not hiding behind this idea that they owe some sort of confidentiality to Trump. Time to speak up.
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[b]
Two Foreign-Born Men Who Helped Giuliani on Ukraine Arrested[/b]WASHINGTONTwo foreign-born donors to a pro-Trump fundraising committee who helped Rudy Giulianis efforts to investigate Democrat Joe Biden were arrested late Wednesday on criminal charges of violating campaign finance rules and are expected to appear in court on Thursday, according to people familiar with the matter.
[link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-for…es-11570714188][link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188]https://www.wsj.com/artic…ce-charges-11570714188[/link][/link]
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We are witnessing the most corrupt administration in American history
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