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Talk about a waste of Skin
[link=https://nypost.com/2018/02/06/justin-trudeau-to-woman-its-peoplekind-not-mankind/]https://nypost.com/2018/0…eoplekind-not-mankind/[/link]
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Terminal Leftism. Sad.
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yeah, no doubt the most telling act or utterance of impending catastrophe ive heard in a long time. this could be it. farewell and adieu.
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We are approaching ‘peak stupid’.
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Stupid social feminism.
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Oh Hell we are still approaching stupid…. I cant imagine the future
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yeah, no doubt the most telling act or utterance of impending catastrophe ive heard in a long time. this could be it. farewell and adieu.
The glibness is cute, but the fact that prime ministers are so pathetic that they virtue-signal in this way [i]is[/i] demonstrative of severe societal decay.-
I know. Im terrified. This democratically elected leader of one of the most prosperous peaceful and satisfied countries on the planet is apocalypse personified. I cant think of a greater threat to the globe or civilization. Society has lost all mooring. It must needs be the liberalistanist rot will putrify us all. Damn it Jim, if you allow thought contrary to tradition, where will it end! Some damn fool will try to build a private rocket! Im a doctor, man, not a stultified sclerosed moribund ideology. And have you even heard the music these d@mn kids listen to today?!
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Sincere question, is increased glibness even cuter?
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Oh wow, talk about fake news. I’m definitely no fan of “Justine”…he’s faaaar too liberal for me, but in this case he was “trying” to make a joke when he interrupted a true nutcase who even talked about “Mother God”. It did get chuckles in the room, but didn’t translate well in the media. My favourite rebuttal for this was in parliament when an opposition MP (Lisa Raitt) told Trudeau to “People up”.
That said, changing our Canadian national anthem (y’all may have heard it during hockey games 😉 ) from “All thy sons’ command” to “All of us command” is true and far more newsworthy. Like I said, Justine is faaaar too liberal for me.-
“Our country reeks of trees
Our yaks are really large
And they smell like rotting beef carcasses…..”
Courtesy of Ren and Stimpy.
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Oh wow, talk about fake news. I’m definitely no fan of “Justine”…he’s faaaar too liberal for me, but in this case he was “trying” to make a joke when he interrupted a true nutcase who even talked about “Mother God”. It did get chuckles in the room, but didn’t translate well in the media. My favourite rebuttal for this was in parliament when an opposition MP (Lisa Raitt) told Trudeau to “People up”.
That said, changing our Canadian national anthem (y’all may have heard it during hockey games 😉 ) from “All thy sons’ command” to “All of us command” is true and far more newsworthy. Like I said, Justine is faaaar too liberal for me.
Wanna trade? You can have Trump as PM. He’s definitely not waaay liberal.
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Oh wow, talk about fake news. I’m definitely no fan of “Justine”…he’s faaaar too liberal for me, but in this case he was “trying” to make a joke when he interrupted a true nutcase who even talked about “Mother God”. It did get chuckles in the room, but didn’t translate well in the media. My favourite rebuttal for this was in parliament when an opposition MP (Lisa Raitt) told Trudeau to “People up”.
That said, changing our Canadian national anthem (y’all may have heard it during hockey games 😉 ) from “All thy sons’ command” to “All of us command” is true and far more newsworthy. Like I said, Justine is faaaar too liberal for me.
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That people up line is outstanding!
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That people up line is outstanding!
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Were you in the room?
Are you sure it was a joke?
Not in the room, but I saw the last part of the odd duck’s ramble before Justy said his infamous remark. He had to interrupt her with something and I thought it was tongue in cheek. He may be a gut-wrenching liberal but I don’t think he’s gone that far left…yet.
Frumi, I’d prefer a PM something between Trudie and Trumpie. I’m glad I’ve retired from the public sector as I’m sure I would have said something at some point in time that would have offended somebody who is looking to be offended.-
So, when you called this “fake news”, it was sheer conjecture…
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There is a soft civil war going on over … reality. And some don’t even realize how bad living in a dream world can be, because of what it leads to. I in fact just saw a youtube video where a guy asked, “What’s the problem with subjective moral reasoning”
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Trump is a WEAK man. So Jan predicts bad times ahead.
For once we agree.
Does Trump have an ego with some fragility (and, consequently, that serves as a point of weakness)? Yes.
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Maybe not fake news, just one line taken out of context. Oh good gawd, why am I defending Justie, the Herbert P. Milktoast of the western world??? He hasn’t done anything ballsy (oops, what’s the PC term?) since he was an MP. Maybe Trudeau vs. Putin???
[link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuSpZ3_5pTc[/link]
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Maybe not fake news, just one line taken out of context.
This.
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How about a boxing match between your Justin and our Donald?
The Fat Man and Milquetoast!
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Dr F, all moral reasoning is subjective. Yours included.
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Amazing people here are posting on this issue. Trudeau has admitted it was a joke, not some PC comment, that went bad. Nothing here but a bad joke which he admits. Move on.
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“Admits” it was a joke? Considering that a joke is far preferable for his image to describing it as a principled statement.
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Maybe not fake news, just one line taken out of context. Oh good gawd, why am I defending Justie, the Herbert P. Milktoast of the western world??? He hasn’t done anything ballsy (oops, what’s the PC term?) since he was an MP. Maybe Trudeau vs. Putin???
[link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuSpZ3_5pTc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuSpZ3_5pTc[/link]
America is tired of being pushed around by bully Canada, taking advantage of our good wimpy nature. It’s time to even the score.
Canada has treated our Agricultural business and Farmers very poorly for a very long period of time. Highly restrictive on Trade! They must open their markets and take down their trade barriers! They report a really high surplus on trade with us. Do Timber & Lumber in U.S.?
Tell Justin to stop being such a mean bully to Trump and America and stealing all our hard earned money! You have a HUGE! trade surplus with the US. MAGA taking back what Canada stole!
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Canadian elections last night —
[link=https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/federal-general-election-results-2021-1.6182364]CBC[/link] projects Justin Trudeau to return as Prime Minister leading a liberal minority government. Seat count virtually unchanged from the 2019 result.
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[h1][b]Justin Trudeau Moved to Secret Location Over Karen Konvoy Protests[/b][/h1] A convoy of thousands of truckers and other protesters have converged on Parliament Hill to call for an end to COVID-19 vaccine mandates and other public health restrictions a raucous demonstration that has police on high alert for possible violence even as organizers urge the crowd to be peaceful, [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbc.ca%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Ftruck-convoy-protest-some-key-players-1.6332312]CBC[/link] reports.
Amid security concerns, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his family have been moved from their home to an undisclosed location in the nations capital.
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[h1][b]Canadians Hate the Trucker Convoy… And They’re Blaming Justin Trudeau[/b][/h1] A new [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fottawacitizen.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fthis-could-cost-him-his-job-a-blockaded-canada-turning-on-trudeau-poll-finds%2Fwcm%2F7cbd64b0-bffa-45a4-8d99-16f4356362ee]Maru Public Opinion poll[/link] found that 56% of Canadians dont have an iota of sympathy for Freedom Convoy and two thirds wouldnt mind seeing their blockades cleared by military force.
But Canadians are also turning their ire on a weak government response and an intransigent prime minister whom they blame for inflaming the situation. The poll found that only 16% of Canadians would vote for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau based on his actions of the last two weeks.
On the ground, at least, the Canadian public sees that our democracy is at threat and the very institutions that are supposed to be doing things about it are largely impotent, said Wright. I dont think the prime minister gets it.
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[link=https://politicalwire.com/2022/02/11/thoughts-for-the-end-of-the-week-2/]The Reality of the Canada Trucker Protests
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The so-called freedom convoy is said to be protesting a vaccine mandate for truckers. But the demonstrations have quickly morphed into a broader far-right movement. If you look closely at photos of the demonstrators youll now see Nazi and even Confederate flags. The message of protesters has morphed from demanding an end to Covid-19 restrictions to demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who was recently re-elected.
But the idea that these are populist protests is easily disproven by the polls. A [link=https://leger360.com/surveys/legers-north-american-tracker-february-8-2022/]new poll[/link] shows that just 32% of Canadians support the protests while 62% oppose them. In fact, Canadians have generally approved of mask and vaccine mandates. The pandemic restrictions have received broad public support and are much less controversial than theyve been in parts of the United States. In fact, roughly 90% of Canadian truckers [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/01/28/canada-truckers-convoy-ottawa-covid/]are even vaccinated[/link].
Unfortunately, the news coverage of the protests in the U.S. leads Americans to falsely believe that Canada is in the midst of a popular uprising. This has been [link=https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bc-us-canadian-truckers-protest_n_62066bf2e4b0328e002577b6]amplified this week[/link] on Fox News and by other conservative outlets. That message was further pushed when Donald Trump [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/trump-trudeau-ottawa-protests-00005944]endorsed the convoy[/link] saying it was peacefully protesting the harsh policies of far-left lunatic Justin Trudeau who has destroyed Canada with insane Covid mandates. This led the Canadian government to issue a statement [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/08/canada-freedom-convoy-truckers-desantis-paxton/]warning against foreign interference.[/link] [b]The reality is that whats happening in Ottawa is a fringe movement. If anything, the Canadian truck protests appear to be an unpopular uprising.[/b][/QUOTE]
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I remember a few weeks ago listening to a Canadian trucker being interviewed on NPR. He was very worried about this.
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All I can say is “Blame Canada!”
[link]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBpgcZ1zYJs[/link]
Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?No, blame Canada, blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin’ heads so full of liesBlame Canada, blame Canada
We need to form a full assault
It’s Canada’s fault
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Well, Trudeau doesn’t want to come across as an authoritarian.
A good time to own a heavy wrecker and an an impound lot.
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Well, Trudeau doesn’t want to come across as an authoritarian.
A good time to own a heavy wrecker and an an impound lot.
Yeah.
Trudeau is making Doug Ford look like a level-headed, decisive leader. That’s really a feat.
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[h1][b]Hackers Release Names of Freedom Convoy Donors[/b][/h1]
The Christian crowdfunding site GiveSendGo that helped raise $8.7 million for the anti-vax freedom convoy in Canada was hacked on Sunday night, and the names and personal details of over 92,000 donors were leaked online, [link=https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7wpax/freedom-convoy-givesendgo-donors-leaked]Vice News[/link] reports.
Also included in the leaked data were the messages that some donors posted alongside their donations. The messages contained over 13,000 references to God or Jesus as well as thousands of references to tyranny.
While most of the users messages were relatively benign, there are a number of more troubling posts, like this from one user: I look forward to the day you tyrants are swinging from a noose.
Other messages [link=https://twitter.com/coolfacejane/status/1493087918499504132]flagged by Monmouth University extremism researcher Sara Aniano[/link]and verified by VICE Newsincluded: We have 2A here in America send your mounties and see what happens, CABAL PIGLETS ARE CORRUPT CRIMINALS WHO NEED SEVERE PUNISHMENT UNDER LAW, and Death to all liberal traitors.
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I kind of find it ironic that the people worried about liberty have the Queen of England on their $20 bill.
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[link=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/justin-trudeau-invokes-emergency-powers-quell-trucker-protests-canada-rcna16213]Justin Trudeau invokes emergency powers to quell trucker protests in Canada
[/link]These blockades are illegal, and if you are still participating the time to go home is now, the prime minister said while announcing the Emergencies Act would be used.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked emergency powers Monday to quell the [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ambassador-bridge-police-canada-us-border-covid-protesters-arrests-rcna16036]protests by truck drivers and others who have paralyzed Ottawa and blocked border crossings[/link] in anger over the countrys Covid-19 restrictions.
In invoking Canadas Emergencies Act, which gives the federal government broad powers to restore order, Trudeau ruled out using the military.
He gave assurances the emergency measures will be time-limited, geographically targeted, as well as reasonable and proportionate to the threats they are meant to address.[/QUOTE]
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I wonder if Dergon was equally as excited to call for the end of the autonomous zone in Portland Oregon during the wonderful time of riots. I bet he thought they were just drinking tea in there and peacefully protesting. It was only a couple bad apples that spoiled the bunch would no doubt be his response
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Hey. Welcome back.
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I wonder if Dergon was equally as excited to call for the end of the autonomous zone in Portland Oregon during the wonderful time of riots. I bet he thought they were just drinking tea in there and peacefully protesting. It was only a couple bad apples that spoiled the bunch would no doubt be his response
The identical question can be asked about the likes of Rand Paul & FOX talking heads, etc calling for the expansion of truckers into US cities in order to bring down the economy.
Now what do you suppose the difference is between Portland & the Canadian truckers that show the mirror difference of support?
Try to explain that, BIG.
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Politics.
[link=https://www.koin.com/news/international/explainer-a-look-at-whats-behind-at-the-protests-in-canada/]https://www.koin.com/news/international/explainer-a-look-at-whats-behind-at-the-protests-in-canada/[/link]The demonstrators in Ottawa, Ontario and elsewhere are primarily demanding an end to all COVID-19 vaccine mandates and other restrictions including mask requirements though most of those were put in place by provincial governments.
The freedom convoy was announced in early January by a group called Canada Unity, which was founded by James Bauder, a supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theories. Also involved are Tamara Lich, who previously belonged to the far-right Maverick Party, which calls for western Canada to become independent; and a former member of Trudeaus Royal Canadian Mounted Police security detail.
Some far-right figures appear to be trying to capitalizing on the protests and pandemic fatigue to try to revitalize their movements, which represent a small minority of Canadians.
Pandemic restrictions have been far stricter in Canada than in the United States, but Canadians have largely supported them. The country has less hospital capacity, so provinces have been quick to impose lockdowns when infections rise. Canadas COVID-19 death rate is one-third that of the United States.
In the United States, the protests have been cheered and promoted by Fox News personalities and former president Donald Trump, who issued a statement attacking the harsh policies of far left lunatic Justin Trudeau who has destroyed Canada with insane COVID mandates. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has called the truckers heroes and patriots, and Tesla billionaire Elon Musk also tweeted his support.-
Cancel Elon!!!! He supports it so lets dredge up some dirt on him and cancel his arse!
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Change the subject to another imagined & imaginary outrage is your response?
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Youre not in the mood to cancel someone? Shocker. You feeling ok bud?
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You know, those monsters you fear in your closet, your attic, under your bed & outside are imaginary, dont you.
Mercer Mayer wrote some childrens books to help people like you.
[link=https://www.amazon.com/Theres-Nightmare-Closet-Mercer-Mayer/dp/0140547126]https://www.amazon.com/Theres-Nightmare-Closet-Mercer-Mayer/dp/0140547126[/link]
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Come on! You know you wanna do a little cancelin. Or too early for you today? Youre probably all tuckered out from combatting manufactured outrage. Aw, poor little guy. Hang in there
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Got it. So just trolling.
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Like many Trumpers, BIG is resentful for being economically left behind.
Yup, just another Trump-Troll.
Your fairy just visited me & your wish is granted, BIG. You are hereby being cancelled for swilling nonsense.
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Another strawman attack from Frumious. I do not nor ever have supported Trump. But that makes it easier to criticize me by falsely creating a narrative for me. Sad and desperate but not unexpected from you.
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Got it. You’re an Independent Troll doing your own research. Nothing to do with Trump or other right-wingnut crazies.
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Ironic that you call me a wingnut and a troll. Youre not the most self-aware it seems.
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That last Frumi response is classic. If one challenges him and his progressive ideas one becomes a Trump loving Q supporter.
Chitown, you are extreme in your approach and dergon is right to ignore you.
However, yours seems to be the best way to have any discourse in here. Otherwise its just watch Frumi, dergon and DCD post links to opinion pieces that support their side.
Occasionally someone like BHE will post something thought provoking from the middle. About once a month. Those are good days.
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Like many Trumpers, BIG is resentful for being[u][b] economically left behind[/b][/u].
This part right here. I think this is what a lot of animus is from. Lots of people have been left behind.
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Like many Trumpers, BIG is resentful for being[u][b] economically left behind[/b][/u].
This part right here. I think this is what a lot of animus is from. Lots of people have been left behind.
I do not disagree that many have been left behind. The problem I have it this has been progressively going on since the 1980’s with the destruction of unions as 1 example. The oxymoronic solution IMHO is their support of the very Party that has been behind the majority of these policies leaving them behind. The Republicans have never been known as the Blue Collar Party since at least the start of the 20th Century. Not to mention President Johnson’s prescient prediction when he signed the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts.
But that said, BIG is hardly left behind as he’s supposed to be a radiologist. Hardly selling pencils to make ends meet, no?
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Ha, why does my economic situation factor into this?
If we are talking about economic disparities I will be the first to admit that we are currently in a country that is experiencing the widest gap in economic inequality we have ever seen. Where we might not agree exactly is the solution.
I propose eliminating the long term capital gains reduced percentage. Capital gains should be taxed as regular income regardless of how long you have held the stock. I also propose a flat tax system that is 25% for everyone regardless of how much you make. Those that fall below the poverty threshold will be supported by welfare and medicaid. Basically I support reducing all the financial wizardry that enriches the business elite, real estate developers and their ilk. I do not however think that the largest burden % wise should fall on the professional class such as physicians. A flat tax would rectify that while stronger social programs would prevent the truly poor from becoming destitute.
I am not a republican Frumious as much as you want to paint me as one. But i chuckle ever time you call me a Trumper since I never voted for the man and also make fun of him and the worst of his followers.
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Also not sure why threadkiller is an apologist for Dergon and Frumious. No need to virtue signal here my friend. Just say what you think. Let the truth set you free. They want you to bend the knee and even then they wont respect your opinions so why bend the knee
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The point Im trying to make is the radical left doesnt want nor tolerate any diversity of thought and they believe in shadenfreude as one of their core guiding principles
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I see that. Im not sure you have made your point yet. You certainly stirred up the wrath of Frumi though.
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The point I am trying to make is that dergon likes to ask for people to stick around under his terms. They arent bad terms. Discuss in good faith.
The problem is the discussion grinds to a halt once someone gives a reasoned argument for why the policies and methods he and Frumi support are failing.
It just goes back to posting links to opinion pieces about why the GQP is terrible.
The sad thing from my point of view is they are making their goals, most of which are mine also, less likely.
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The point I am trying to make is that dergon likes to ask for people to stick around under his terms. They arent bad terms. Discuss in good faith.
Ok — Here we go. I will try to take this morning’s original “question” at face value and discuss.
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On CHAZ/CHOP vs the Canadian Truck Protests –
First, and most importantly. The [b]cause[/b] matters. Not all protests of similar mechanism deserve the same level of respect or type of response. The Nazis marching Skokie are *not* the same as the African Americans marching in Selma. Citizens are under [b]no[/b] obligation to give them equal consideration.
These truckers’ “me me me libertarian” idea of freedom without personal responsibility is asinine and deserves to be called out as such. This isn’t about “freedom” at all.
(I see a similar attempt to draw a horrific analogy between the Boston Tea Party and the Jan 6, 2021. Just because they were both uprisings against the government does not mean they are the same.
[i]In 1773 the tyranny being protested against was [b]real[/b]. On Jan 6 that “tyranny” was imagined/ manufactured.)[/i]
Also, the morphing demands of the movement from wanting to eliminate vaccine mandates to a more broad antigovernmental/ get rid of the PM who was just re-elected/ “Let’s Go Brandon”-ness doesn’t help support.
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Now, on to the similarities.
If you are going to start a protest movement that is significantly disruptive to the citizenry at large you are going to at big risk of losing popular support. You had better be squeaky clean when it comes to those who draw media attention, coopt the cause, etc.
In CHAZ/CHOP, having armed Antifa with ARs manning check points didn’t help. Nor did having a bunch of hippies who were uninterested in the broader social justice movement show up just to do drugs in the park.
With Truckers it is similar, but worse. Once the Swastikas and Confederate flags come out, the game is up…. you’re not fighting [i]against[/i] Tyranny, [b]you’re the tyrants.[/b]
Also similar, but worse for the Truckers is the negative economic impact. Once you’re doing damage measurable to GDP, the government is going to have to respond…. as it did.
But overall, there are lots similarities in the disruptive movements that did (in the case of BLM) and are likely to (in the case of Ottawa) turn popular support against the movements.
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The point I am trying to make is that dergon likes to ask for people to stick around under his terms. They arent bad terms. Discuss in good faith.
Ok — Here we go. I will try to take this morning’s original “question” at face value and discuss.
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On CHAZ/CHOP vs the Canadian Truck Protests –
First, and most importantly. The [b]cause[/b] matters. Not all protests of similar mechanism deserve the same level of respect or type of response. The Nazis marching Skokie are *not* the same as the African Americans marching in Selma. Citizens are under [b]no[/b] obligation to give them equal consideration.
These truckers’ “me me me libertarian” idea of freedom without personal responsibility is asinine and deserves to be called out as such. This isn’t about “freedom” at all.
(I see a similar attempt to draw a horrific analogy between the Boston Tea Party and the Jan 6, 2021. Just because they were both uprisings against the government does not mean they are the same.
[i]In 1773 the tyranny being protested against was [b]real[/b]. On Jan 6 that “tyranny” was imagined/ manufactured.)[/i]
Also, the morphing demands of the movement from wanting to eliminate vaccine mandates to a more broad antigovernmental/ get rid of the PM who was just re-elected/ “Let’s Go Brandon”-ness doesn’t help support.
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Now, on to the similarities.
If you are going to start a protest movement that is significantly disruptive to the citizenry at large you are going to at big risk of losing popular support. You had better be squeaky clean when it comes to those who draw media attention, coopt the cause, etc.
In CHAZ/CHOP, having armed Antifa with ARs manning check points didn’t help. Nor did having a bunch of hippies who were uninterested in the broader social justice movement show up just to do drugs in the park.
With Truckers it is similar, but worse. Once the Swastikas and Confederate flags come out, the game is up…. you’re not fighting [i]against[/i] Tyranny, [b]you’re the tyrants.[/b]
Also similar, but worse for the Truckers is the negative economic impact. Once you’re doing damage measurable to GDP, the government is going to have to respond…. as it did.
But overall, there are lots similarities in the disruptive movements that did (in the case of BLM) and are likely to (in the case of Ottawa) turn popular support against the movements.
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Easy to dismiss them because 2 people had swastikas. Those 2 people did not represent the trucker convoy. While I dont support this convoy blockade in general, I do find it hilarious that people grasp at anything so their confirmation bias is left intact.
People are forcefed mainstream media bias and eat it gladly
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And I suppose the cache of guns and ammo found at the blockade in Alberta is fake news as well. Yes, these might be a small minority of the protesters that are overt, but the mindset in this group runs deeper.
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FW- he is just parroting what liberal news media is telling him to use as a talking point. Of course tons of canadians have guns. Of course there are always some bad apples that spoil the bunch.
What about the autonomous zone in portland? Lot of bad apples there too.
Always a few bad actors in every movement. But hey its easy to take what they do and generalize that to the broader group if it supports your worldview.
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And I suppose the cache of guns and ammo found at the blockade in Alberta is fake news as well. Yes, these might be a small minority of the protesters that are overt, but the mindset in this group runs deeper.
I have family in Alberta. You could stop any random number of cars in Alberta and you would find a ‘cache of guns and ammo’ in about 1/3 of them. They are different.
1/3 of people in Alberta travel with a “cache” of guns and ammo? Are they preparing for a war? Against warlike critters or humans? Usually 1-2 guns on the rack & some shells would be more than sufficient, no? Who exactly needs a cache all the time?
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People are forcefed mainstream media bias and eat it gladly
The typical conspiracy theorist credo.
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You think Fox News has bias? Of course you do.
But of course the rest dont right? At least not the ones you watch, read or listen to, am i right?
Spoiler alert: they all have bias bud. Educate yourself and expand your news menu.
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You think Fox News has bias? Of course you do.
But of course the rest dont right? At least not the ones you watch, read or listen to, am i right?
Spoiler alert: they all have bias bud. Educate yourself and expand your news menu.
I live in Canada, why would I watch either Fox or CNN? I would watch Tucker for news the same as I would watch Rogan for medical advice…talk about Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Sorry to be the bearer of bas news, but if you only watch 1-2 news sources in Canada, you are being fed 1-2 viewpoints which are curated from the top. Its not surprise that fox is right leaning or cnn is left leaning. If you dont diversify your information channels and think for yourself, you are just a mindless drone
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Sorry to be the bearer of bas news, but if you only watch 1-2 news sources in Canada, you are being fed 1-2 viewpoints which are curated from the top. Its not surprise that fox is right leaning or cnn is left leaning. If you dont diversify your information channels and think for yourself, you are just a mindless drone
so what is your news source(s) that are giving you just the facts?
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If you’re referencing CBC News, it’s too left leaning for me. I get a fair amount of my news from a provincial newspaper. It must be fairly centrist judging by how in the letters to the editor they tend to p1ss off the left and right leaning readers. They have a good mix of contributers.
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I think you can look at any combination of reporting and come to your own conclusions. Like they probably shouldn’t have cached weapons onsite. This was civil disobedience exercise right? Also they’re largely fudging over the average Joe or I guess in Canada it would be the average Pete. They messed with people working blue collar jobs like auto industry. Not sure that endures anyone to your cause.
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DD, I hadda look up Rafael Cruz, never heard of him. Guess he’s about as Canadian as I am American…my Dad was from Long Island. Guess that’s why I grew up in a right leaning household (to put it mildly).
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DD, I hadda look up Rafael Cruz, never heard of him. Guess he’s about as Canadian as I am American…my Dad was from Long Island. Guess that’s why I grew up in a right leaning household (to put it mildly).
He goes by Ted because he’s trying to hide his ethnic sounding name. He born of Alberta and foisted upon America.
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DD, I hadda look up Rafael Cruz, never heard of him. Guess he’s about as Canadian as I am American…my Dad was from Long Island. Guess that’s why I grew up in a right leaning household (to put it mildly).
Rafael Cruz was born at Foothills Medical Centre in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Not sure how much more Canadian you can than being born in Canada.
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Not saying they should protest in this way or that it is productive. Im just tired of people pointing out a few bad apples and generalizing that to mean everyone at that protest is a nazi or deranger gunowner with caches of weapons.
Their main point is valid though. The government is overreaching with the vaccine mandates. Its also funny that the liberals are taking up the vaccine mandate as their cause when california a very liberal state is notorious for having a lot of rabid anti vaxxers for other vaccines like mmr vaccine etc. A not insigniciant percentage of liberals have long been known to have an anti-vax stance in the past. Now its become politicized and is becoming quite authoritarian
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Canada has our share of right wing-nuts. I had little problem with the trucker convoy, but they really got hijacked by the lunatic fringe. They even asked the Lieutenant Governor to suspend parliament and create another with a coalition of opposition parties along with members of their convoy. I guess freedom means doing things their way. Interesting that over half the funds raised for the convoy came from the US.
[link=https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-rcmp-arrest-11-seize-cache-of-guns-at-alberta-border-blockade/]https://www.theglobeandma…berta-border-blockade/[/link]
“The RCMP has arrested a dozen people tied to the blockade near the U.S.-Canada border in southern Alberta after seizing a cache of guns and ammunition.
The RCMP says it is considering conspiracy to commit murder charges, alleging a small group was prepared to use weapons against police if authorities tried to end the blockade at Coutts. The seizure included 13 long guns, handguns, multiple sets of body armour, a machete, a large quantity of ammunition, and high-capacity magazines.”
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The point Im trying to make is the radical left doesnt want nor tolerate any diversity of thought and they believe in shadenfreude as one of their core guiding principles
You posting things like Dergon is the radical left isn’t 1) substance 2) accurate
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All I see are trumpers, antivaxxers, far right etc etc. goes both ways bud. Garbage in garbage out
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I am not a republican Frumious as much as you want to paint me as one. But i chuckle ever time you call me a Trumper since I never voted for the man and also make fun of him and the worst of his followers.
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Frumi. Lets just say all of your proclamations about the GQP are true. And everyone who disagrees with the policies you support must be affiliated with them. Does your method help or hurt your goal of Dem victories?
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CT. I woke have preferred that you engaged with dergon in a way that he did not chose to block you. Your latest tactics have clearly been employed get a rise out of him. Trolling one could say.
I understand the frustration though. Its hard to get any interesting, reasoned, non partisan and thought provoking discussion going on in here. Ive been trying.
Remember, politics and partisanship are not the same thing.
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Oh I am not an apologist for them. Do I look like it?
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Like many Trumpers, BIG is resentful for being[u][b] economically left behind[/b][/u].
This part right here. I think this is what a lot of animus is from. Lots of people have been left behind.
I do not disagree that many have been left behind. The problem I have it this has been progressively going on since the 1980’s with the destruction of unions as 1 example. The oxymoronic solution IMHO is their support of the very Party that has been behind the majority of these policies leaving them behind. The Republicans have never been known as the Blue Collar Party since at least the start of the 20th Century. Not to mention President Johnson’s prescient prediction when he signed the Voting Rights and Civil Rights Acts.
But that said, BIG is hardly left behind as he’s supposed to be a radiologist. Hardly selling pencils to make ends meet, no?
I think you’re correct and that is a good example. A lot of people think Reagan destroyed the middle class. Union busting is one way. I think the famous example was firing every air traffic controller. He did a lot of things in the name of supply side or whatever TF.
It totally makes sense to me that that people who feel marginalized are supported the GOP, even though they’re the hand that beats you. The GOP has become about grievance. The country is changing. it used to be one job could support a family, not anymore. Instead of saying Reagan gutted unions, it’s easier to say the Brown man took your job. This is the message of the GOP and especially Trump. It’s like Trump’s whole schtick. Only I can save you but everyone is against me. He’s got a lot of people who don’t see him for what he is. Is liar, a conman. It’s so easy to see too. Like Trump saying I’ll release my taxes but only when I’m not under audit. Things like that are him outright being a liar.
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Is that like “Canadian Bacon” that’s not really bacon at all, but ham?
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Is that like “Canadian Bacon” that’s not really bacon at all, but ham?
The only terror they send our way are ‘Canada Geese’. They **** all over the place.
On a tangent. Funny John Candy movie. I think he was Canadian. I never knew it was a Michael Moore film until a while after I watched it.
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John Candy is Canadian and an alumnus of SCTV. I actually watched Planes, Trains, and automobiles over Xmas.
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And we can’t blame Cruz on Alberta. Once he got to Texas he just distilled all the texan stuff into his artificial personality that allowed him to get elected and re-elected there. He could have been chinese from China and he would be the same turd, just slightly different physical features.
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Is that like “Canadian Bacon” that’s not really bacon at all, but ham?
The only terror they send our way are ‘Canada Geese’. They **** all over the place.
On a tangent. Funny John Candy movie. I think he was Canadian. I never knew it was a Michael Moore film until a while after I watched it.
“This man was arrested for being in too many foul moods and this man was arrested for putted leaded gas, in an unleaded tank”
Surrender pronto or we level Toronto!”
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[b]Mike Lindell Barred from Entering Canada[/b][/h1]
My Pillow CEO and staunch Donald Trump supporter Mike Lindell as well as a truck full of 10,000 pillows were denied entry into Canada while trying to join Ottawa Freedom Convoy protesters, [link=https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/my-pillows-mike-lindell-barred-from-entering-canada-to-support-convoy-protestors]National Post[/link] reports.-
Russia is churning out the most coverage on truckers in Canada.
[link=https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/status/1493966152216854528?s=21]https://twitter.com/julia…93966152216854528?s=21[/link]
Guess who is churning out the most coverage of the Canadian trucker protests? If you guessed #Russia's state media outlet RT, you're correct. pic.twitter.com/AK1KZvQQZd
— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) February 16, 2022
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[link=https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-tweets-meme-comparing-justin-trudeau-to-adolf-1848553110]https://gizmodo.com/elon-…au-to-adolf-1848553110[/link]
Elon musk goes Godwin on Trudeau
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Elon Musk tweeted an image comparing Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to German dictator Adolf Hitler [link=https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1494216634822766594]early Thursday[/link]. And while Musks legion of fans will no doubt claim its just a joke, its still jarring to see the richest person on the planet compare world leaders in functioning democracies to Hitlerespecially when that incredibly wealthy person is a 50-year-old man.
The SpaceX founder tweeted the image of Hitler in the early hours of Thursday morning ET, captioned with the words, Stop comparing me to Justin Trudeau. I had a budget. The joke seems to be that Trudeau failed to deliver a new federal budget to parliament for the past [link=https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2021/03/18/with-no-new-budget-in-two-years-justin-trudeau-has-been-spending-with-our-eyes-closed.html]couple of years[/link].
Musks message was sent in reply to a tweet from crypto news outlet Coindesk which [link=https://web.archive.org/web/20220217091317/[link=https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1494216634822766594]https://twitter.com/elonm…us/1494216634822766594[/link]]reads[/link], Canadian authorities have ordered financial institutions not to interact with 34 different crypto addresses tied to the countrys ongoing trucker protests.
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[h1][b]GOP Lawmaker Wants Asylum for Canadian Truck Protesters[/b][/h1]
Rep. Yvette Herrell (R-NM) compared Canadas handling of vaccine mandate protesters to an authoritarian regime like Venezuela and said she will introduce legislation to temporarily grant asylum to Canadians protesting vaccine requirements, [link=https://www.mediaite.com/politics/gop-rep-will-introduce-bill-to-provide-temporary-asylum-to-canadian-trucker-protesters-compares-trudeaus-actions-to-an-authoritarian-regime-like-venezuela/]Mediaite[/link] reports.
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Now that’s something I can endorse. NM probably needs more Trump voters anyway.
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In many ways sharing is NOT caring.
Keep your own idiots. We have more than our share already. You might have Trudeau but we actually had Trump.
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I dunno Frumi, these people think they’re ‘Mericans anyway. This from a court hearing regarding bail for his wife…a protest organizer.
[link=https://upjobsnews.com/no-bail-decision-yet-for-tamara-lich-convoy-protest-organizer-news-more/]https://upjobsnews.com/no…t-organizer-news-more/[/link]
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[h2]Dwayne Lich questions legality of Emergencies Act[/h2] Honestly? I thought it was a peaceful protest and based on my first amendment, I thought that was part of our rights, he informed the court docket.
What do you mean, first amendment? Whats that? Judge Julie Bourgeois requested him.
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It just shows how many of these Canadian protesters get their info from Faux News and websites with ‘patriot” or “freedom” in the name. Next they’ll plead the fifth lol.
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It just shows how many of these Canadian protesters get their info from Faux News and websites with ‘patriot” or “freedom” in the name. Next they’ll plead the fifth lol.
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The problem is, someone tell me the difference in information fed by Russians or Faux News or OAN & even the Editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal & other publications & even the Republican Party. If you did not source the information youd have a hard time discerning the source as they all seem virtually identical reading from the same pages.
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The problem is, someone tell me the difference in information fed by Russians or Faux News or OAN & even the Editorial pages of the [b]Wall Street Journal & other publications & even the Republican Party.[/b] If you did not source the information youd have a hard time discerning the source as they all seem virtually identical reading from the same pages.
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As Ukraine faces thousands of civilian casualties and Putin threatens nuclear war, Trump knows we need to stay focused on our *real* enemies ….
[link=https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1497739069413072903?s=20&t=iEYpEkzP37QQkeja0rPuyw]https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1497739069413072903?s=20&t=iEYpEkzP37QQkeja0rPuyw[/link]
“The tyranny we have witnessed in Canada in recent weeks should shock and dismay people all over the world.”TRUMP: "The tyranny we have witnessed in Canada in recent weeks should shock and dismay people all over the world." pic.twitter.com/SVx8RFE4UB
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) February 27, 2022
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Interesting article from the local newspaper this morning. Written by Scott Taylor editor of Espris de Corps Magazine.
[link=https://saltwire.pressreader.com/the-chronicle-herald]https://saltwire.pressrea…m/the-chronicle-herald[/link]
Now that the selfproclaimed freedom convoy has been forcibly expulsed from the nations capital, it is perhaps a good time to start debunking the popular myths that sprung up in support of this protest movement.
The initial genesis for the convoy was to send a clear message to the Canadian government that cross-border truckers wanted an exemption on a mandatory vaccine mandate. Trucking associations were quick to point out that over 90 per cent of Canadian truckers were already double-vaxxed, so this protest, from the outset, was representative of only a tiny minority of drivers.
The second clue that this rolling protest had been hijacked was the composition of the organizers.
They were not hard-bitten Teamsters with a career history of battling for truckers rights within the workplace. Not by a long shot.
Now known by convoy zealots as the spark that lit the flame, Tamara Lich is an energy industry worker. She was active in the western separatist movement known as Wexit while living in Alberta, and after moving to Manitoba she joined the Maverick Party.
Lich is not a medical expert nor does she have a vested interest in the trucking industry. At time of writing, she remains in custody awaiting a bail hearing on a charge of counselling to commit mischief.
Ditto for fellow convoy organizer Pat King. This chap is also not a medical expert or a trucking enthusiast. He too has long been a rebel looking for a cause whether that be in the form of Yellow Vests Canada or his own Roll with Pat movement. King has cultivated a following with his videos espousing racist sentiments. Alarmingly, King often films his rants seated in front of a Canadian Armed Forces ensign, despite the fact that he never served in uniform. At one point King had to apologize for having created the false impression that his leg amputation was the result of his service in Afghanistan. It was, in fact, due to a workplace mishap here in Canada.
That is not to say that a large number of military veterans didnt support the convoy initiative. It is in this regard, when coupled with alleged ties to white nationalist or far right groups that this takes a far more sinister turn.
One of those active in the occupation of Ottawa was none other than a chap named Jeremy Mackenzie.
Unlike King, Mackenzie did serve as a combat solider with the CAF and he had at least one tour in Afghanistan.
What he is now better known for is his role as the figurehead for a group known as the Plaid Army.
Mackenzie is also the creator of the concept of a fictional North American nation-state that he has dubbed Diagolon. According to Mackenzie, this state of Diagolon would stretch diagonally from Alaska to Florida and encompass what he describes as the sane regions of Canada and the U.S.A.
Mackenzie has gone so far as to design a flag for this new nation of Diagolon. It is a white strip which cuts a black background diagonally and he has nicknamed it ol-slashy.
Those who follow Mackenzie and his Diagolon movement have adopted the phrase gun or rope as their solution to any ideological enemies who oppose them.
This list would include the Liberal government and the mainstream media. This is the medias baby. They built and supported it and pushed for this race war, this civil war, Mackenzie reportedly stated.
Mackenzie is facing charges in Nova Scotia for weapon possession violations, and the alleged careless use of a firearm during a drunken incident that was videotaped and posted online. The charges have not been proven in court.
However, a far more concerning development involves the RCMP arrests in relation to the vehicle blockade that was established at Coutts, Alta.
Following a police raid wherein a large cache of weapons and ammunition were seized, the RCMP announced charges against four suspects for conspiracy to commit murder. One of those charged in the incident is a fellow named Chris Lysak.
Coincidentally, Lysak is a friend of Mackenzies who reportedly referred to Lysak on social media as the head of Diagolons security. To further reinforce the connection, it was noted that a tactical vest seized in the Coutts police raid sported the black and white symbol of Diagolon.
When asked about any possible involvement, Mackenzie claimed that the Diagolon patches are simply a branding like a hockey team or something.
The last time I checked, no professional sports team uses the catch phrase gun or rope, nor do they make public statements about engaging media with violence.
For all of those who wish to portray the Ottawa occupation as a trucker-supported freedom protest, you need to start taking a closer look at these organizers.
You got played.
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[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/598853-dc-convoy-speaker-says-black-live-matter-street-will-be-tarred-and]https://thehill.com/homen…eet-will-be-tarred-and[/link]
[b]DC Truck Convoy plans to ‘Tar and Feather’ Black Lives Matter Street[/b]
[link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/peoples-convoys-reveals-ridiculous-new-goal-take-back-black-lives-matter-plaza?via=twitter_page]In a video captured by The Daily Beast[/link], a speaker standing on a stage bearing a sign for “Freedom Convoy 2022” tells a crowd to “take back” a street adorned with the slogan “Black Lives Matter,” which stretches for two blocks on 16th Street NW in D.C.
The street mural is located near the White House, and was painted in response to the social unrest following the Minneapolis police killing of a Black man, George Floyd, in 2020.
“What’s going to happen up here in D.C., Black Lives Matter Street, we’re going to take it back. All that paint’s coming off that street,” the speaker said. “Before I get put in my grave, it’s going to get tar and feathered.”
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Happy to know all that and them have nothing to do with race and racial animus.
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For those of us who regularly ride bikes, whether to/from work or just for fun
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/26/dc-trucker-convoy-protest-bike/]https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/26/dc-trucker-convoy-protest-bike/[/link]Adler, a father of two school-aged children, brought it to a crawl and, for his efforts, became known across the Internet by [link=https://twitter.com/mskathykhang/status/1505424333459525642?s=20&t=KnDyGgn0UR_hYj_YXfghUg]a moniker[/link]somehow heroic and commonplace at once: Bike Man.
His convoy holdup, captured on video and shared widely on social media, was a powerful visual, and an absurd one. People nationwide observed one man on a 72-pound cargo bike halting trucks that could weigh up to 10 tons.
Many online said he was a hero. A brewery in Northeast [link=https://twitter.com/citystatebeer/status/1505288456448188416?s=20&t=KnDyGgn0UR_hYj_YXfghUg]offered him free beer[/link]. Jimmy Kimmel described it as [link=https://www.youtubetrimmer.com/view/?v=jLWoedn3nSM&start=436&end=475&loop=0]poetry in motion[/link]. One Twitter user [link=https://twitter.com/Mushy_Sparrow/status/1505334853818097664?s=20&t=pAD4pg8ByYS3HnnWvosMYg]wrote[/link]:
Gotham has Batman
Metropolis has Superman
New York has Spider-Man
Washington DC has bike man.
To city residents exhausted and [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/25/convoy-protest-assault-dc/?itid=lk_inline_manual_19]alarmed by the convoy[/link], Adler became a symbol. To some, the cyclist was standing up to fascism, white supremacy, anti-vaccination sentiment and convoy members harassment of residents. Others saw his bike as an example of sustainable, clean transportation juxtaposed with massive trucks burning fuel while driving in circles.
dude on bike, please come in and claim your free beer https://t.co/ajNMVRGa0o
— City-State Brewing (@citystatebeer) March 19, 2022
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[b]Convoy organizer Pat King granted bail after 150 days in jail[/b]
While on bail the 44-year-old must return to Alberta, live under a curfew, and is banned from social media, organizing convoy-related demonstrations, and contacting fellow leaders of the freedom protests in Ottawa this winter. [link=https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/07/18/pat-king-granted-bail-after-150-days-behind-bars-on-freedom-convoy-charges.html?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=BreakingNews&utm_content=patking]https://www.thestar.com/p…mp;utm_content=patking[/link]
