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  • Senior Trump administration official op-ed, resisting Trump from inside

    Posted by btomba_77 on September 5, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    A Senior White House official pens a NYT op-ed. You should read the whole thing):

    [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…nymous-resistance.html[/link]

    To be clear, ours is not the popular resistance of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
     
     
    But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

    “The root of the problem is the presidents amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.”

    “many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations…..

    “{Trump’s} successes have come despite not because of the presidents leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.”

    “Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until one way or another its over.”

    btomba_77 replied 2 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 19 Replies
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  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    September 5, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    Anonymous Senior official? This seems to corroborate things that have been floated from the Woodward book.

    • btomba_77

      Member
      September 5, 2018 at 3:17 pm

      The parlor game now ….
       
      Who wrote it?
       
      I’m going with Don McGahn

      • btomba_77

        Member
        September 5, 2018 at 3:20 pm

        I find it interesting that the cabinet whispers went nowhere, as they decided the 25th Amendment would lead to a “Constitutional crisis.” Ultimately, though, the Constitution covers this: The cabinet could remove him, and then Trump could claim he’s actually not unfit, which would lead to a House hearing & vote.
         
         
         
         
        As much as it is reassuring to some extent that there are adults in the room, the fact that unelected officials are taking national policy into their own hands is deeply frightening. If things are really this bad, then there is an obligation to declare Trump unfit and remove him.  …. step up, Cabinet!

        • btomba_77

          Member
          September 5, 2018 at 3:24 pm

          [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/this-is-a-constitutional-crisis/569443/]David Frum[/link]: Impeachment is a constitutional mechanism. The 25th Amendment is a constitutional mechanism. Mass resignations followed by voluntary testimony to congressional committees are a constitutional mechanism. [b]Overt defiance of presidential authority by the presidents own appointeesnow thats a constitutional crisis.[/b]

          If the presidents closest advisers believe that he is [link=https://politicalwire.com/2018/09/05/the-resistance-from-inside-the-white-house/]morally and intellectually unfit[/link] for his high office, they have a duty to do their utmost to remove him from it, by the lawful means at hand. That duty may be risky to their careers in government or afterward. But on their first day at work, they swore an oath to defend the Constitutionand there were no riskiness exemptions in the text of that oath.

          • kaldridgewv2211

            Member
            September 5, 2018 at 5:15 pm

            Sounds like he’s got his own deep state issue. On Twitter tonight he’s calling for Treason and that the Times must turn over the source under the guise of national security.

            Mattis and Kelly denied Woodward stuff so I don’t think it’s them. Maybe his lawyer. NYT said “he”. Could Nikki Haley be in the mix.

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              September 5, 2018 at 5:21 pm

              So here’s a real doozie. In the article it refers to McCain and then uses the word lodestar. If you Google that but pipe it to search whitehouse.gov it returns a bunch of links to remarks by Mike Pence. It’s a unique word so maybe Pence?

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                September 6, 2018 at 3:05 am

                The slow disintegration of the Trump Administration & now the cadre of heroes, anonymous enablers who claim to actually be his baby-sitters.

                No one has to wonder why Republicans are in a hot rush to complete their agenda as it looks like its all coming apart.

                • Unknown Member

                  Deleted User
                  September 6, 2018 at 3:18 am

                  The circle of trust is getting smaller

                  Everyone is the enemy

                  When your world falls apart thats what happens

                  • kayla.meyer_144

                    Member
                    September 6, 2018 at 4:19 am

                    Can’t escape the question of why and why now? Especially why now.
                     
                    Rats from a sinking ship ensuring some escape route.
                     
                    But I’m sure this is nothing more than another “Nothingburger” on trays full of Nothingburgers.

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      September 6, 2018 at 5:54 am

                      Vice President Mike Pence … leads offshore bookmaking picks as the White House mole behind the [link=https://nypost.com/2018/09/05/anonymous-white-house-official-im-working-to-stop-trumps-agenda/]anonymous bombshell New York Times op-ed[/link] blasting President Trump.Pence was listed at 2-to-3 odds on the site MyBookie as the fifth column official who claims to be working behind the scenes to stop some of Trumps policies that they find wrongheaded.

                      The other 17 named potential moles, listed by MyBookie, are: Education Secretary Betsy Devos (2-to-1), Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (4-to-1), Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin (4-to-1), chief of staff John F. Kelly (4-to-1), Defense Secretary Jim Mattis (5-to-1), Attorney General Jeff Sessions (5-to-1), Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke (6-to-1), Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue (6-to-1), Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (7-to-1) Labor Secretary Alex Acosta (7-to-1), HHS Secretary Alex Azar (8-to-1), HUD Secretary Ben Carson (8-to-1), VA Secretary Robert Wilkie (8-to-1), Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen (10-to-1), Ivanka Trump (12-to-1) and Jared Kushner (12-to-1).

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      September 6, 2018 at 5:56 am

                      Trump demands that the NYT reveal the name of the writer.
                       
                       
                      He wants the author of an op-ed piece critical of his administration “over to government at once!”.
                       
                      ….
                       
                      At least Trump does everyone a favor and confirms what the piece says. He is fundamentally anti-democrats and petty.
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                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      September 6, 2018 at 6:33 am

                      Trump is not a good person

                      Slowly even the hard core supporters are coming around to that conclusion

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 6, 2018 at 6:34 am

                      Interesting that Pence is the speculation of White House insiders as well as outsiders. Pence setting up his ascension doing CYA.

                    • kaldridgewv2211

                      Member
                      September 6, 2018 at 7:45 am

                      Here’s a bunch of the “lodestar” evidence on Pence.  Unique word and seemingly used by him.
                       
                      [link]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45431300[/link]

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      September 6, 2018 at 12:17 pm

                      Dan Coats.   Anyone writing it should be smart enough to not use personally common but generally uncommon verbiage, and Pence is <probably> smart enough to know that.  Most of the cabinet members listed above are just fine with Trump chaos.  It’s someone in national security, who knows how to sprinkle lexicon from other admin members to rake the trail.
                       
                      Whomever, it is reprehensible on many levels.  Cowardly indeed.  They openly claim the president is “damaging our Republic”…yet they will blithely allow it to continue to gain short sighted and grossly partisan Republican goals.  The “adults in the room” are perfectly happy to commit unconstitutional offenses in the dark to further party ends, to the detriment of democracy, and have the paucity of moral sense to actually think they are righteous.  Holy Sh1te.  It is scurrilous and repugnant at the very least.  

                    • yao.bw39_792

                      Member
                      September 6, 2018 at 2:23 pm

                      I don’t think Pence would use an uncommon word that he has sprinkled in speeches previously.  Think someone else is probably trying to pin it on him.  Hope Trump rakes him over the coals though.  Then maybe Pence won’t pardon him.

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 6, 2018 at 7:17 pm

                      As the writer states, Trump is damaging the Republic but it is a price the writer is willing to pay since he/she/it says they support what Trump has done like tax cuts.

                      Sell the Republic for tax cuts. Id say the writer sells their honor cheaply for a few silver bits of coin.

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 6, 2018 at 7:44 pm

                      [link=https://mobile.twitter.com/smarick/status/1037512658965225474]https://mobile.twitter.co…us/1037512658965225474[/link]

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      May 18, 2022 at 5:17 am

                      Miles Taylor, the anonymous Trump official, leaving the GOP

                      [link=https://twitter.com/milestaylorusa/status/1526701781278986240?s=21&t=ieJ4lMhvSX0XPAcvewF4MA]https://twitter.com/miles…ieJ4lMhvSX0XPAcvewF4MA[/link]