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  • Posted by kayla.meyer_144 on July 19, 2013 at 2:56 am

    Rand Paul & Libertarians can’t seem to get over the fact that the Confederacy lost the Civil War, known in their circles as the War of Northern Aggression. Lincoln’s a murderer & tyrant who instigated the War deliberately to grow Federal power? Let’s celebrate the birthday of John Wilkes Booth?

    And they say the GOP is not crazy. Where are the Paul supporters these days.

    [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-rand-paul-can-never-be-a-mainstream-republican/2013/07/18/d2ec8bf4-efdc-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost…a873b7e0424_story.html[/link]

    btomba_77 replied 1 year, 6 months ago 9 Members · 58 Replies
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  • Unknown Member

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    July 19, 2013 at 5:58 am

    Quote from Frumious

    Rand Paul & Libertarians can’t seem to get over the fact that the Confederacy lost the Civil War, known in their circles as the War of Northern Aggression. Lincoln’s a murderer & tyrant who instigated the War deliberately to grow Federal power? Let’s celebrate the birthday of John Wilkes Booth?

    And they say the GOP is not crazy. Where are the Paul supporters these days.

    [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-rand-paul-can-never-be-a-mainstream-republican/2013/07/18/d2ec8bf4-efdc-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost…a873b7e0424_story.html[/link]

    Get over it bandersnatch, Rand Paul, MD will be the next POTUS.  He will have his hands full cleaning up the disaster left by your messiah, the bumster.  By the way, we didn’t lose the war.  Detroit vs. Atlanta……….

    • Unknown Member

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      July 19, 2013 at 6:27 am

      Quote from Point Man

      Get over it bandersnatch, Rand Paul, MD will be the next POTUS.  He will have his hands full cleaning up the disaster left by your messiah, the bumster.  By the way, we didn’t lose the war.  Detroit vs. Atlanta……….

      Wow, so now that it has been revealed that Point Man is really a Confederate sympathizer, I wonder how many of his previous supporters here are going to cross to the other side of the street when they see him coming!

      Well done, Point Man, for showing us your true Confederate colors.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        July 24, 2013 at 1:54 pm

        [link=http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/23/what-rand-paul-aide-jack-hunter-and-his-resignation-say-about-his-boss.html]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/23/what-rand-paul-aide-jack-hunter-and-his-resignation-say-about-his-boss.html[/link]
         
        Well, Jack Hunter is out now. 
         

        Confederate nostalgics like Jack Hunter are a dime a dozen; more relevant is what he can tell us about his former boss, a sitting U.S. senator and leading 2016 Republican presidential candidate.
         
        So what was it that endeared Hunter to Rand Paul? Prior to joining the senators staff, Hunter had worked as the official blogger for the 2012 Ron Paul presidential campaign. In [link=http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/a-tribute-to-the-retiring-congressman-who-changed-the-country-and-my-life/Content?oid=4239079]one of his final columns[/link], a tribute to the retiring congressman who changed the country and my life, Hunter gushed, Where I reside, my friends, my career trajectory, my everyday thinking about political principles, job opportunities, even something as intimate as my love life has been revolutionized in some way by the remarkable achievement of Dr. Paul. The Ron Paul movement has long had a cultish aspect to it, detectable in the way the former congressmans followers speak of him as the one man who can save the Republic from a disastrous fate; indeed, the fate of humanity itself rests on us sheep heeding his dire calls.
         
        [b]But the most important lesson to be gleaned from this episode is that Rand Paul defended Hunter to the end. [/b]Indeed, by all accounts it was Hunter who decided to quit. He was not forced out. That should hardly come as a surprise, as cavorting with extremists is a key part of the Paul family playbook. In the midst of the newsletter scandal, when many of Ron Pauls most die-hard supporters urged him to do it, he never distanced himself from Lew Rockwell, his former chief of staff who most likely penned the screeds. Paul could have easily salvaged some degree of his reputation had he fully explained Rockwells role in their production. Not only did he choose to protect Rockwell, but immediately after stepping down from Congress, he [link=http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/25/the-ron-paul-institute-be-afraid-very-afraid.html]established a foreign-policy think tank[/link] on whose board sits Rockwell, along with a bevy of other conspiracy theorists, anti-Semites, and all-around cranks.

         

        And so Hunter appears to be to Paul the younger what Rockwell was (and remains) to Paul the elder: a trusted acolyte who can telegraph to the fringe just what his patron [i]truly[/i] thinks.

    • Unknown Member

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      July 25, 2013 at 7:15 am

      Would you like to put money where your mouth is? I will bet a large sum of money with good odds that Rand is not the next POTUS. Are you willing to take the bet?

      • Unknown Member

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        July 25, 2013 at 8:00 am

        Quote from Raddocmed

        Would you like to put money where your mouth is? I will bet a large sum of money with good odds that Rand is not the next POTUS. Are you willing to take the bet?

        Ain’t got no money!!  My mamma didn’t raise no fools; therefore betting on politics is rather risky at best.  I would never expect Paul to be the next POTUS – just get nauseous reading posts from bandersnatch and soapy so I just added that to see ol’ soapy foam at the mouth.  There are so many well qualified Conservative candidates to choose from and any one of them can blow the democrite out of the water, thanks to the dismal failures of the obumster.  Thanks for caring anyway.

        • Unknown Member

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          July 25, 2013 at 9:09 am

          Pointless Sounds a lot like that Quacky CT tech Pete Booger that used to post on here

          • Unknown Member

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            July 25, 2013 at 11:53 am

            Nope, not old pete booger!!!   That coming from a 11P – 7A washed up, barely qualified rad tech is amazing.  By the way super Mario, you must be ecstatic about those new jobless numbers, not!!  Also the obummers approval rating has been flushed down the porcelain device that old John Crapper invented.  You are a pathetic, small person looking for some love in all the wrong places.  This ain’t the place pacman.

            • Unknown Member

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              July 25, 2013 at 1:43 pm

              [b]you must be ecstatic about those new jobless numbers, not!![/b]
               
              What Im  really happy about is the Stock market  Up over 100%  basically doubling uder Obama 
               
              Thank God after that good conservative Bush destroyed trillions in  value

              • Unknown Member

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                July 25, 2013 at 6:21 pm

                Quote from kpack123

                [b]you must be ecstatic about those new jobless numbers, not!![/b]

                What Im  really happy about is the Stock market  Up over 100%  basically doubling uder Obama 

                Thank God after that good conservative Bush destroyed trillions in  value

                Obviously pacman, you have no idea how the stock market works.  Absolutely no correlation to the economy.  Take a few business courses so you will have a better understanding of the subject.  Those tangents you go on are troubling.  Maybe a little counseling will help with that anxiety.

                • Unknown Member

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                  July 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm

                  [b]Obviously pacman, you have no idea how the stock market works.[/b]
                   
                   
                  Hmmmm.  IDK My portfolio looks petty good.   Dang I wish I was as smart you
                   
                  You just keep cutting off that nose to spite that face
                   
                  Youz right wingers is real smart
                   
                   

        • Unknown Member

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          July 25, 2013 at 9:12 am

          [b]so many well qualified Conservative candidates?[/b]
           
          Hahahahahahah
           
          Rick Santorum
           
          Newt Gingrich
           
          Sarah Palin
           
          Rick Perry
           
          HAHAHAHAHAH
           
          Yep You guys are looking good for second place in the 2016

        • Unknown Member

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          July 26, 2013 at 7:21 am

          OK  How about a small bet. I bet that no conservative of the nature of Paul, Palin, Perry, etc. can get elected in the next 20 years. The numbers are swining more the other way. You can’t write off the Hispanic, asian, youth, black, and liberal white vote and have a prayer of winning. Most feel that staes such as Texas and Arizona may become purple if not blue in 2016 and almost certainly blue by 2020. When you have party that appeals almost exclusively to older white and mainly male voters you will lose. I do think that somebody like Chritie could have a shot but doubt that they could get the nomination as primaries are scewed to the tea party types.

          • Unknown Member

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            July 26, 2013 at 7:43 am

            Quote from Raddocmed

            OK  How about a small bet. I bet that no conservative of the nature of Paul, Palin, Perry, etc. can get elected in the next 20 years. The numbers are swining more the other way. You can’t write off the Hispanic, asian, youth, black, and liberal white vote and have a prayer of winning. Most feel that staes such as Texas and Arizona may become purple if not blue in 2016 and almost certainly blue by 2020. When you have party that appeals almost exclusively to older white and mainly male voters you will lose. I do think that somebody like Chritie could have a shot but doubt that they could get the nomination as primaries are scewed to the tea party types.

             
            Pure liberal fantasy.  Watch the liberal brand crumble over the next two or three years as Obamacare, the poor economy, Detroit, the decline of US power and the moral decline of the country start to weigh on people.  There will be the mother of all backlashes against the progressive nanny state and the corrupt Democrat brand.  I saw this happen during the Carter years as a whole generation turned against weak-kneed liberalism and for capitalism and US power. Christie is toast.  I’m rooting for Cruz or Santorum. It is time for a man or woman of conviction to step up.

            • btomba_77

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              July 26, 2013 at 7:46 am

              I’m rooting for Cruz or Santorum too!…. but for a totally different reason 😉

            • Unknown Member

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              July 26, 2013 at 8:12 am

              Wrong, Alda. Greece ain’t gone conservative yet, and it won’t happen here for a generation. Too many moochers who won’t give up on the idea that you and me are supposed to pay for their iphones, big screen TVs $300 sneakers and gold teeth. 

            • Unknown Member

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              July 26, 2013 at 8:26 am

              [b]I’m rooting for Cruz or Santorum[/b]
               
              Is that the same Santorum that lost by 20 percentage points in his home state??????????
               
              Yeah Im rooting for him to run too

            • Unknown Member

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              July 26, 2013 at 1:22 pm

              I am willing to extend my offer of a bet to you too. I will bet that no tea party type will be elected. Only in the dreams of the the far right is the GOP going to win any national election unless they have a course change. Even the party bosses know that. They have siad as much. Watch the House kill immigration reform and see what they get from the Hispanic vote. You just can’t spot the Dems 70+% of the Hispanic, asian, black, and youth vote and win. If you really believe Cruz or Santorum can win take the bet.

              • eyoab2011_711

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                July 26, 2013 at 2:43 pm

                Tea partiers will only succeed in their gerrymandered districts.  Nationally they are toast as is anyone who sucks up to them.  There is a reason that the most canny politician-Christie is steering a far away course to avoid their stench

                • Unknown Member

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                  July 26, 2013 at 4:47 pm

                  Quote from Thor

                  Tea partiers will only succeed in their gerrymandered districts.  Nationally they are toast as is anyone who sucks up to them.  There is a reason that the most canny politician-Christie is steering a far away course to avoid their stench

                  Thank you Chris Matthews for another brilliant evaluation of current political scenarios.  Thrill up your leg yet?

                • Unknown Member

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                  July 26, 2013 at 5:03 pm

                  [b]There is a reason that the most canny politician-Christie is steering a far away course to avoid their stench [/b]
                   
                  Thing is the republican party is getting smaller and more radical right, so that a moderate like Christie doesnt have a good chance unless he chosees to leave the republican party and or go independent
                   
                  Todays republican  part is a minority party getting smaller by the day
                   
                  You can see it on these boards when the deluded crew thinks running Santorum would be a good idea.   HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
                   
                   

                  • btomba_77

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                    July 28, 2013 at 5:35 am

                    Looks like Christie might try the Guliani approach…. just completely ignore Iowa and the right-wing caucus freak show. Try to not get pulled to the right, then get the party machinery behind him as the “electable” candidate.   Basically I think Christie is going to try to do ti without big support from social/christian conservatives.
                     
                    I would not be surprised though if the GOP ends up putting Santorum or Cruz on the block…. one of them could be the party’s next Goldwater.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      July 28, 2013 at 8:29 am

                      Christie took a chance reallocating funds and merging the med school into Rowan so that NJ could have one of only a handful of colleges in the USA that has both a medical and law school, and it seems to be all settling out in his favor.

                      Right now, odd as it may seem to some, he is the most credible GOP candidate at this moment.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      July 28, 2013 at 8:48 am

                      Don’t be surprised If Jeb Bush doesn’t make a run for it.
                       
                      He is almost a compromise canidate between the Moderate Christie and the Whack jobs on the far right.
                       
                      I think even though his brother was an utter failure he could still sway independents.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      July 28, 2013 at 8:55 am

                      Quote from kpack123

                      Don’t be surprised If Jeb Bush doesn’t make a run for it.

                      He is almost a compromise canidate between the Moderate Christie and the Whack jobs on the far right.

                      I think even though his brother was an utter failure he could still sway independents.

                      I’ve said several times within Aunt Minnie’s walls that Jeb would be the GOP’s best candidate, but I haven’t seen him show any real indication that he’s actually considering it yet.
                       
                       

                    • kayla.meyer_144

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                      July 31, 2013 at 9:02 pm

                      Takers in Rand Paul’s state while makers in Christie’s.

                      [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/libertarians-flex-their-muscle-in-the-gop/2013/07/31/dbc4dd40-f9ea-11e2-8752-b41d7ed1f685_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost…41d7ed1f685_story.html[/link]

                      Red states need to hold up a mirror when complaining about takers. It’s the blue states that are the makers.

          • Unknown Member

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            July 26, 2013 at 8:24 am

            [b]You can’t write off the Hispanic, asian, youth, black, and liberal white vote and have a prayer of winning.[/b]
             
            What about the Female vote??????????
             
            They are getting killed on womans issues

  • btomba_77

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    November 24, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    [link=http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/24/us-usa-security-paul-idUSKCN0J81FE20141124]http://www.reuters.com/ar…-idUSKCN0J81FE20141124[/link]
     
     
    [b]
    [h1]Senator Rand Paul calls for declaration of war against Islamic State [/b][/h1]  

    U.S. Senator Rand Paul, a possible Republican candidate for president in 2016, is calling for a formal declaration of war against Islamic State militants who control parts of [link=http://www.reuters.com/places/iraq?lc=int_mb_1001]Iraq[/link]and [link=http://www.reuters.com/places/syria?lc=int_mb_1001]Syria[/link], the New York Times reported on Monday.
    In an interview on Saturday, Paul said his proposal would limit the duration of military action to one year and significantly restrict the use of ground forces, the Times said.
    His proposal differs from others circulating in Washington in that he wants to formally declare war against Islamic State, which Congress has not done since World War Two, the newspaper said.
     

     
     
    After being soft bailing on the NSA bill now he wants a formal declaration of war?
     
    This guy is all over the place.

    • btomba_77

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      December 19, 2014 at 11:45 am

      [link=http://time.com/3642300/cuba-marco-rubio-rand-paul/]http://time.com/3642300/c.a-marco-rubio-rand-paul/[/link]
       
      Rand Paul trolls Rubio on Twitter over Rubio’s “isolationist” Cuba policy.
       
      Hey [link=https://twitter.com/marcorubio]@marcorubio[/link] if the embargo doesn’t hurt Cuba, why do you want to keep it?
       
      Senator [link=https://twitter.com/marcorubio]@marcorubio[/link] is acting like an isolationist who wants to retreat to our borders and perhaps build a moat. I reject this isolationism.
       
      The United States trades and engages with other communist nations, such as China and Vietnam. So [link=https://twitter.com/marcorubio]@marcorubio[/link] why not Cuba?
       
      .[link=https://twitter.com/marcorubio]@marcorubio[/link] what about the majority of Cuban-Americans who now support normalizing relations between our countries?

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        December 19, 2014 at 11:57 am

        Rand Paul, the “rational” Republican?

        • btomba_77

          Member
          March 10, 2015 at 5:44 am

          Rand Paul is offended by gay marriage. 
           
           
          “Im for traditional marriage. I think marriage is between a man and a woman. Ultimately, we could have fixed this a long time ago if we just allowed contracts between adults. We didnt have to call it marriage, which offends myself and a lot of people.
           
           
           
           
          So much for his libertarian cred on that one.   

          • btomba_77

            Member
            March 26, 2015 at 9:12 am

            And Rand loses even more Libertarian street cred.
             
             
            [url]http://time.com/3759378/rand-paul-defense-spending/[/url]

            [b]Rand Paul Proposes Boosting Defense Spending[/b]

            Just weeks before announcing his 2016 presidential bid, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is completing an about-face on a longstanding pledge to curb the growth in defense spending.

            In an olive branch to defense hawks hell-bent on curtailing his White House ambitions, the libertarian Senator introduced a budget amendment late Wednesday calling for a nearly $190 billion infusion to the defense budget over the next two yearsa roughly 16 percent increase.

              Pauls amendment brings him in line with his likely presidential primary rivals, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who introduced a measure calling for nearly the same level of increases just days ago. The amendment was first noticed by TIME and later confirmed by Pauls office.
            The move completes a stunning reversal for Paul, who in May 2011, after just five months in office, released his own budget that would have eliminated four agenciesCommerce, Housing and Urban Development, Energy and Educationwhile slashing the Pentagon, a sacred cow for many Republicans. Under Pauls original proposal, defense spending would have dropped from $553 billion in the 2011 fiscal year to $542 billion in 2016. War funding would have plummeted from $159 billion to zero. He called it the draw-down and restructuring of the Department of Defense.

            But under Pauls new plan, the Pentagon will see its budget authority swell by $76.5 billion to $696,776,000,000 in fiscal year 2016.

        • btomba_77

          Member
          April 4, 2015 at 5:39 pm

          A bit of bad timing for Paul:
          [link=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/03/rand-paul-gay_n_6999698.html]http://www.huffingtonpost…aul-gay_n_6999698.html[/link]

          [b]Rand Paul Appears In New Anti-Gay Documentary[/b]

          Paul’s appearance in the film comes as he prepares to announce a 2016 presidential run and as the Republican Party finds itself divided over how to move forward on the issue of gay rights and concerns over religious freedom.
          Paul’s office did not return multiple requests for comment on whether the senator was aware he was being included in the documentary and if he agrees with its overall message. Porter, the filmmaker, did not return a request for comment on Paul’s involvement.

          …this week, BuzzFeed surfaced a 2013 video in which Paul said he doesn’t even believe in the concept of “gay rights.”   “I dont think Ive ever used the word gay rights, because I dont really believe in rights based on your behavior,” he said in the video.

           
           
           
           
          And losing libertarian cred on LGBT rights too.

          • odayjassim1978_476

            Member
            April 4, 2015 at 8:34 pm

            HRC has signed least for headquarters…starting on a budget

  • btomba_77

    Member
    April 29, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    Quote from Frumious

    Rand Paul & Libertarians can’t seem to get over the fact that the Confederacy lost the Civil War, known in their circles as the War of Northern Aggression. Lincoln’s a murderer & tyrant who instigated the War deliberately to grow Federal power? Let’s celebrate the birthday of John Wilkes Booth?

    And they say the GOP is not crazy. Where are the Paul supporters these days.

    [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-rand-paul-can-never-be-a-mainstream-republican/2013/07/18/d2ec8bf4-efdc-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost…a873b7e0424_story.html[/link]

     
    Rand Paul, who theoretically was the GOP candidate trying to reach out to minority communities completely blows it on Baltimore.    He blames it on [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/04/29/rand-paul-cites-a-lack-of-fathers-in-baltimore-its-more-nuanced-than-you-think/]lack of fathers and morals[/url].
     
    And of course regarding his travel through the city:  “I came through the train on Baltimore last night, I’m glad the train didn’t stop,”  *chuckles*

    • odayjassim1978_476

      Member
      April 29, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      he needs to fix his own stuff

      Quote from dergon

      Quote from Frumious

      Rand Paul & Libertarians can’t seem to get over the fact that the Confederacy lost the Civil War, known in their circles as the War of Northern Aggression. Lincoln’s a murderer & tyrant who instigated the War deliberately to grow Federal power? Let’s celebrate the birthday of John Wilkes Booth?

      And they say the GOP is not crazy. Where are the Paul supporters these days.

      [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-rand-paul-can-never-be-a-mainstream-republican/2013/07/18/d2ec8bf4-efdc-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost…a873b7e0424_story.html[/link]

      Rand Paul, who theoretically was the GOP candidate trying to reach out to minority communities completely blows it on Baltimore.    He blames it on [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/04/29/rand-paul-cites-a-lack-of-fathers-in-baltimore-its-more-nuanced-than-you-think/]lack of fathers and morals[/link].

      And of course regarding his travel through the city:  “I came through the train on Baltimore last night, I’m glad the train didn’t stop,”  *chuckles*

      • suyanebenevides_151

        Member
        April 29, 2015 at 4:15 pm

        Telling someone at least a part of the truth is “blowing it”
         
        Yes, this is politics and bizarro world for those that only care about winning, not about people.

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          April 29, 2015 at 7:21 pm

          He’s kind of speaking the truth about the fathers/morals thing but there’s really much larger socio-economics at play. Drugs, poverty, education, feeling like the man got you down. It’s a cauldron boiling over.

          • Unknown Member

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            April 30, 2015 at 5:57 am

            Lotsa finger pointers

            No problem solvers

            • suyanebenevides_151

              Member
              April 30, 2015 at 7:23 am

              Outsiders can’t help you if you don’t live in somewhat of a reality about what’s going and a what has gone on. The people themselves always have to be their own problem solvers, at the most important level, at least.

              • btomba_77

                Member
                April 30, 2015 at 7:45 am

                The people themselves always have to be their own problem solvers

                 
                And that right there is why the GOP doesn’t appeal to minority populations.
                 
                “Pick yourself up by your own bootstraps” is a message that rings hollow to populations that suffer institutionalized bias in policing and criminal justice, lack of economic opportunity, lack of investment in their communities, and major disparities in education and public health.
                 
                Rand Paul’s finger wagging is emblematic this problem ajnd why the GOP has challenges in getting to national governing majority.

                • janecreeve_520

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                  April 30, 2015 at 8:07 am

                  Just because a policy doesn’t appeal to minorities doesn’t mean it is poor policy. I know that is elementary, but I just want to make sure you understand that. 
                   
                  A lot of ethnic groups have had adversity, including not even knowing the English language,  and dealt with it just fine.  As far as ‘populations that suffer…’ – please name the populations you are describing by ethnic group. 
                   
                  Look at how well many jews have done since quite a bit of adversity last century. Check out their Nobel Prizes, Wolf prizes, any list of wealthiest etc.  
                   
                  Institutionalized bias is just bias that nobody can see, so it is inferred (in error in my opinion) by lack of results. 
                   
                  With convoluted ‘reasoning’ you can explain their plight as caused wholly by anything or anyone (but themselves), just like you could say that ‘cold germs’ cause frostbite if you prefer to make things more complicated than they really are.  
                   
                  Also if you read the article you posted re Rand Paul you will see that Obama also spoke of lack of fathers in the community. Take [b]him[/b] to task.
                   
                   

                  • kayla.meyer_144

                    Member
                    April 30, 2015 at 9:56 am

                    If it doesn’t work, it is a poor policy. If it creates more harm, it is a poor policy. If it segregates select populations into extreme hardships, it is a poor policy. And if you are going to refer to jews & how well they have done, there are different circumstances and culture and opportunity. And time. Not very long ago jews were not exactly loved in our US of A. 

                    • janecreeve_520

                      Member
                      April 30, 2015 at 10:29 am

                      [b]how is the jewish culture different?[/b]   Are you saying black culture is relatively deficient in some manner?
                       
                      I know they weren’t loved; that is part of my point.  They seem(ed) to do just fine despite this.  

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      April 30, 2015 at 10:54 am

                      I am saying culture is impacted by the past, especially if it is recent. Read Moynihan’s report from back in the 1960’s for example. Jews are not relegated and red lined into ghettos generally. And Jews felt so comfortable with the world after WWII they “got” Israel as a safe haven, a discussion that continues today. 
                       
                      There are no simple solutions or comparisons.
                       
                       

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      July 29, 2015 at 5:32 am

                      [url=http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/presidential-campaign/249386-the-rand-paul-tax-plan-stands-out-in-a-heavy-gop]The Rand Paul tax plan stands out in a heavy GOP field[/url]

                      Senator Pauls plan calls for a 14.5 percent flat rate on income. It will replace todays corporate taxes with a new 14.5 percent value-added tax. It eliminates all estate and gift taxes, (most) tax credits, deductions, and loopholes that favor big business.  

                      Americans who identify as poor or in the lower middle class will benefit greatly from this plan. A family of four under a President Paul tax plan would pay no income taxes on the first $50,000 in earned income.  Along with the first $50,000 in earned income being exempt under this tax plan, the payroll tax will also be eliminated. The payroll tax is the largest tax that most Americans pay.

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      July 29, 2015 at 8:23 am

                      Rand Paul who?
                       
                      He seems to be falling behind with the rest of the pack.
                       
                      I won’t be very surprised if the numbers don’t add up in this flat tax plan. And who is going to jump on board with all the deductions gone?
                       
                      And if it’s so good, why wait till past the next election, start talking about redoing tax laws now.
                       
                       
                       

                    • btomba_77

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                      August 6, 2015 at 4:08 am

                      [url=http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/08/3-rand-paul-associates-indicted-kent-sorenson]Three Top Rand Paul Associates Were Just Indicted[/url]

                      After years of investigation by the Department of Justice, three top Rand Paul associates, including the senator’s nephew-in-law, were indicted for their role in an alleged attempt to buy an influential Iowa state senator’s endorsement of Ron Paul during his 2012 presidential campaign. None of these operatives, who served as top Ron Paul campaign aides, is currently on the payroll of Rand Paul’s presidential campaign. But two of themJesse Benton, who is married to Paul’s niece, and John Taterun a pro-Rand Paul super-PACs that has raised $3.1 million to support Paul’s presidential campaign.* The third man indicted, Dimitri Kesari, has served as an aide to both Rand Paul and his father.

                      Last year, former Republican Iowa state Sen. Kent Sorenson pleaded guilty to campaign finance charges accusing him of helping to cover up a scheme for the Ron Paul campaign to pay him more than $70,000 to switch his endorsement immediately before the 2012 Iowa caucus, from Michele Bachmann to Ron Paul. Sorenson has been awaiting sentencing pending his cooperation in a further investigation, but it hasn’t been clear who on Ron Paul’s staff would be caught up in the scandal. At the time Benton served as the campaign’s chairman, Tate as the campaign manager, and Kesari as the deputy campaign manager. 

                      All three men were charged with criminal conspiracy and federal charges related to falsification of government records. Tate and Benton face charges of making false statements to federal investigators; Kesari was indicted on one count of obstruction of justice for allegedly trying to persuade Sorenson to deny the scheme when pressed by prosecutors.

                    • suyanebenevides_151

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                      August 6, 2015 at 7:08 am

                      The DOJ just does the president’s bidding. It is as corrupt as the day is long. Just like the IRS was directed to target political opponents.
                       
                      I will take them serious only when you can show me they didn’t do something politically expedient.

                    • btomba_77

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                      January 11, 2016 at 6:50 pm

                      Quote from Frumious

                      Rand Paul who?

                      He seems to be falling behind with the rest of the pack.

                       
                      [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/11/rand-paul-bumped-from-main-debate-stage-will-boycott-thursdays-undercard/?hpid=hp_regional-hp-cards_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fcard]Rand Paul, bumped from main debate stage, will boycott Thursdays undercard[/url]
                       
                       
                      Beginning of the end for Dr. Paul.

                    • 100574

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                      January 11, 2016 at 8:57 pm

                      kind of a shame because he brought more to the debate than Carson( staff are fleeing:-  per news paid staff from super pac moving to volunteer jobs for Cruz).  Carly slapped back into the kiddie cart.

                      Quote from dergon

                      Quote from Frumious

                      Rand Paul who?

                      He seems to be falling behind with the rest of the pack.

                      [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/11/rand-paul-bumped-from-main-debate-stage-will-boycott-thursdays-undercard/?hpid=hp_regional-hp-cards_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fcard]Rand Paul, bumped from main debate stage, will boycott Thursdays undercard[/link]

                      Beginning of the end for Dr. Paul.

                    • btomba_77

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                      February 13, 2022 at 6:07 am

                      [b]Rand Paul Urges Truckers to Clog Up Cities[/b][/h1]  
                      Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said he hopes truckers would come to the United States as soon as this weekend to clog up streets in Los Angeles during the Super Bowl or next month to Washington, the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/12/rand-paul-trucker-protest-super-bowl/]Washington Post[/link] reports.
                       
                      Said Paul: Im all for it. Civil disobedience is a time-honored tradition in our country, from slavery to civil rights to you name it. Peaceful protest, clog things up, make people think about the mandates.
                       
                      He added: I hope the truckers do come to America, and I hope they clog up cities.

                       

                    • kaldridgewv2211

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                      February 13, 2022 at 6:59 am

                      I just dont understand why Rands neighbor beat the piss out of him.

                    • btomba_77

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                      February 13, 2022 at 7:22 am

                      Quote from DICOM_Dan

                      I just dont understand why Rands neighbor beat the piss out of him.

                      I think about Rand Paul’s neighbor beating the p*ss out of him and it reminds me about Chris Rock and OJ
                       
                      “Now I’m not saying he [i]should [/i]have killed her… but I understand.”
                       

                       
                      “Now I’m not saying he [i]should[/i] have kicked the sh*t out of Rand Paul … but I understand.”

                    • btomba_77

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                      March 28, 2023 at 4:30 am

                      [link=https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rand-paul-staffer-stabbed-multiple-times-dc-suspect/story?id=98166662]Sen. Rand Paul staffer stabbed multiple times in DC, suspect arrested

                      [/link]According to a police report obtained by ABC News, officers first responded Saturday around 5:15 p.m. to a call about a stabbing on the 1300 block of H Street Northeast in the district.[link=https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rand-paul-staffer-stabbed-multiple-times-dc-suspect/story?id=98166662]

                      [/link]
                      On Monday, D.C. police said that 42-year-old Glynn Neal, a D.C. resident, was arrested later on Saturday and had been charged with assault with intent to kill, wielding a knife, in connection with the attack. Court filings state that he has told officers he heard a voice was going to get him before the attack occurred.
                       
                      Paul’s staffer was hospitalized “for treatment of life-threatening injuries,” police said, but further information about his condition was not available.
                       

                    • kaldridgewv2211

                      Member
                      March 28, 2023 at 1:04 pm

                      wonder whatever happened to the guy that beat the fudge out of him.

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      March 28, 2023 at 1:09 pm

                      Quote from DICOM_Dan

                      wonder whatever happened to the guy that beat the fudge out of him.

                      Guy got  8 months in prison, paid a $10k fine, and eventually settled with Paul for an additional $580k in damages.
                       
                       

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      May 12, 2015 at 12:36 pm

                      [link=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/05/12/rand-paul-is-about-to-have-a-shining-moment-on-the-patriot-act/]http://www.washingtonpost…nt-on-the-patriot-act/[/link]

                      Rand Paul considering a big filibuster over the Patriot Act?

                      I’m going to lead the charge in the next couple of weeks as the Patriot Act comes forward. We will be filibustering. We will be trying to stop it. We are not going to let them run over us. And we are going to demand amendments and we are going to make sure the American people know that some of us at least are opposed to unlawful searches.

                      Paul is at his best when looking like the last (only?) principled man in Washington, the guy willing to stand up for what’s right no matter the political consequences. The Patriot Act debate provides a perfect opportunity for him to do just that — and on an issue where there is more skepticism among the public than on the Obama administration’s drone use, the subject of his last talkathon.


                      The way that Paul remains a top-tier contender in the presidential race is by placing his views on foreign policy and national security, which put him outside the Republican mainstream, in the context of a broader principle that he refuses to abandon. Voters like that — even if they disagree with the actual principle in question.

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      May 21, 2015 at 5:04 am

                      [link=http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/05/21/408417139/sen-rand-paul-stages-filibuster-to-protest-patriot-act]http://www.npr.org/sectio…to-protest-patriot-act[/link]
                       
                      Rand Paul stages 11 hour filibuster on Senate floor to protest Patriot Act.
                       
                      “There comes a time in the history of nations when fear and complacency allow power to accumulate and liberty and privacy to suffer.  That time is now, and I will not let the Patriot Act, the most unpatriotic of acts, go unchallenged.”