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REPUBLICAN STATE LAWMAKERS ATTEMPT TO CRIMINALIZE PEACEFUL PROTEST
Posted by btomba_77 on January 21, 2017 at 8:31 am[i]The Intercept[/i]: [url=https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19/republican-lawmakers-in-five-states-propose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest/]REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS IN FIVE STATES PROPOSE BILLS TO CRIMINALIZE PEACEFUL PROTEST[/url]
On Saturday, the Womens March on Washington will kick off what opponents of the incoming administration hope will be a new era of demonstrations against the Republican agenda. But in some states, nonviolent demonstrating may soon carry increased legal risks including punishing fines and significant prison terms for people who participate in protests involving civil disobedience. Over the past few weeks, Republican legislators across the country have quietly introduced a number of proposals to criminalize and discourage peaceful protest.
The proposals, which strengthen or supplement existing laws addressing the blocking or obstructing of traffic, come in response to a string of high-profile highway closures and other actions led by Black Lives Matter activists and opponents of the Dakota Access Pipeline. Republicans reasonably expect an invigorated protest movement during the Trump years.
The anti-protesting bills have alarmed civil liberties watchdogs. This trend of anti-protest legislation dressed up as obstruction bills is deeply troubling, said Lee Rowland, a senior staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union, who views such bills as violations of the First Amendment. A law that would allow the state to charge a protester $10,000 for stepping in the wrong place, or encourage a driver to get away with manslaughter because the victim was protesting, is about one thing: chilling protest.
I think this might bump the ACLU to the top of my “Charity of the Month” list to start the Trump years.
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I don’t understand why that’s a problem to stop people from blocking roads. You have a right to protest but other people have a right to move freely around public access. At that point you are infringing on the rights of others.
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The better is why do they feel new regulations are suddenly necessary…I thought we were going to be regulated less
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The better is why do they feel new regulations are suddenly necessary…I thought we were going to be regulated less
You don’t undestand. “Regulated less” applies only to the energy sector, Wall Street, guns and health care.
Vaginas and protesters get [i]more[/i] regulation.-
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The better is why do they feel new regulations are suddenly necessary…I thought we were going to be regulated less
You don’t undestand. “Regulated less” applies only to the energy sector, Wall Street, guns and health care.
[b]Vaginas and protesters get [i]more[/i] regulation. [/b]
Gave me an interesting visual…but Dan has a point, people should have the right to protest but non-protestors should have right to go about their daily business without being hindered…on a side note having all these protestors probably makes Trump happy in some warped narcissistic way
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Nice Spin… Peaceful Protest. Not exactly what is going on lately. Breaking businesses windows, burning cars, hitting reporters. That’s criminal. No peaceful March would be classified as Criminal. I believed the headline is exaggerated for Drama (as so many protesters lately have been doing to justify violence and carnage to other peoples property.)
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So explain why NEW laws are needed then? Vandalism is already a crime
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If I read the quote from Dergon correctly it’s more about strengthening laws and enforcing laws when people are blocking traffic. I like it. If you want to lay down on a street or walk across an interstate to block traffic, the police should be able to drag you away and press charges.
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The violence has always been from the non-Trump side
The whole story is a lie
All historical assassins are leftist/progressives too
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They can’t now? Since when?
Based on what I’ve seen they don’t do anything.
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Can’t see how that’s possible. In NYC the police routinely manage the crowds including arrests that doesn’t seem to require Federal laws to enforce.
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Speaking of pretesters. Lots of people making fun of Colin Kaepernick today. headlines like ‘Kaepernick will no longer kneel as he now needs a job’ ‘Fake Protester Kaepernick’
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Speaking of pretesters. Lots of people making fun of Colin Kaepernick today. headlines like ‘Kaepernick will no longer kneel as he now needs a job’ ‘Fake Protester Kaepernick’
Disrespect for the military.
Who again disrespects the military and America?
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Floridas GOP-backed anti-riot law blocked by judge
[link=https://apnews.com/article/courtsge…VK42M9l94N5VNo]https://apnews.com/articl..urtsge…VK42M9l94N5VNo[/link]
Floridas new anti-riot law championed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis as a way to quell violent protests is unconstitutional and cannot be enforced, a federal judge ruled Thursday.
The 90-page decision by U.S. District Judge Mark Walker in Tallahassee found the recently-enacted law vague and overbroad and amounted to an assault on First Amendment rights of free speech and assembly as well as the Constitutions due process protections.
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I’m dergon and I approve this message —
[link=https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/civil-rights/575840-we-are-all-paying-for-desantis-defiance-of-the-first]https://thehill.com/blogs…-defiance-of-the-first[/link][b]We are all paying for DeSantis’ defiance of the First Amendment[/b][/h1]
HB 1 attempts to violate basic freedoms by redefining the word riot in Florida statutes. Before HB 1, to be charged with rioting three or more people had to act with common intent to breach the peace in a violent manner. HB 1s new riot definition is so vague and overbroad that it allows police to arrest a person for rioting if they simply are present at an event where three or more [i]other[/i] people assist each other in violent and disorderly conduct resulting in actual or imminent danger of injury to another person or damage to property.
In other words, a person participating peacefully in a rally could be charged with a felony if three perfect strangers in the crowd turn violent. They could very well be strangers who oppose the cause in question, infiltrate the rally and commit an act of violence, purposely causing all the innocent protesters to be hauled off to jail. Such a possibility would certainly dampen the willingness of many Floridians to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed right to protest, which was the idea in the first place. In his ruling, Walker foresees the obvious dangers.…
HB1s new definition of riot both fails to put Floridians of ordinary intelligence on notice of what acts it criminalizes and encourages arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement, making this provision vague to the point of unconstitutionality, he added. “Its vagueness permits those in power to weaponize its enforcement against any group who wishes to express any message that the government disapproves of.”
[/QUOTE]This infiltration issue is not just theoretical, btw. We just this week saw that a white supremacist infiltrated the BLM protests in order to create mayhem.
[link=https://spokesman-recorder.com/2021/10/07/texas-white-extremist-infiltrated-george-floyd-protests/]https://spokesman-recorde…george-floyd-protests/[/link]
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This cartoon is appropriate for both Florida and Texas and a myriad number of other Red states.
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That’s pretty funny. The second part is true about the “blue” states as well. The cartoon ignores the large portion of “the other side” that chooses to live in each place.
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Really. Considering that the nation’s economy is primarily from the Blue States while the Red States accept government support kind of completely disproves your statement.
[link=http://gppreview.com/2020/02/21/growing-divide-red-states-vs-blue-states/]http://gppreview.com/2020…states-vs-blue-states/[/link]
[image]http://gppreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Table-1.png[/image]
[link=https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700]https://wallethub.com/edu…ederal-government/2700[/link]
[link=https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/521875-democrat-run-cities-fuel-the-economy-keep-many-red-states-afloat]https://thehill.com/opini…many-red-states-afloat[/link]
Moreover, they conveniently ignore that Democratic-voting areas fuel a whopping [link=https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2016/11/29/another-clinton-trump-divide-high-output-america-vs-low-output-america/]two-thirds[/link] of the American economy. Republican-led parts of the United States, on the other hand, are [link=https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2019/09/10/america-has-two-economies-and-theyre-diverging-fast/]remarkably unproductive[/link].
The economic divergence between red and blue states is staggering and growing rapidly. While income and education levels are [link=https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2019/09/10/america-has-two-economies-and-theyre-diverging-fast/]increasing[/link] at a swift rate in Democratic areas, they are stagnant or declining in red states, which is a recipe for disaster.
Far worse, an [link=https://www.npr.org/2020/03/18/817687042/deaths-of-despair-examines-the-steady-erosion-of-u-s-working-class-life]epidemic[/link] of [link=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6606896/]opioid[/link] and alcohol-fueled suicides is [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/american-capitalism-failing-trump-s-base-white-working-class-deaths-ncna1181456]killing Trumps white, blue-collar base[/link] at a staggering [link=https://www.brookings.edu/bpea-articles/mortality-and-morbidity-in-the-21st-century/]rate[/link].Republicans attacking Democrat-run cities also seem to forget that [link=https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2020-05-15/some-states-like-new-york-send-billions-more-to-federal-government-than-they-get-back]billions[/link] of dollars from economically dynamic blue states [link=https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700]keep many Republican-voting states afloat[/link]. In light of this [link=https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2012/jan/26/blog-posting/red-state-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/]red state socialism[/link], conservatives may want to reconsider biting [link=https://apnews.com/article/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c]the hand that feeds them[/link].
Let’s remember where in Texas businesses are moving. Hint: It is not into the hinterlands, it’s into the Blue cities and urban areas.
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Let’s remember where in Texas businesses are moving. Hint: It is not into the hinterlands, it’s into the Blue cities and urban areas.
Right, this was my point. There is plenty of blue in red states and vice versa for point two in the cartoon.
Point one is causing this movement.
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Anyway, it’s not very important. I was merely pointing out the failure of a cartoon in its message.
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Nice attempt at spin & moving goalposts, but that is not what you said.
Calling Spokesman Speakes
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Not what you said
Its plain and clear what I wrote. Cant tell you how to interpret it.
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It was a stupid cartoon that did not stand up to criticism.
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