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  • NY Attorney general Barbara Underwood found her law degree in a cereal box.

    Posted by ruszja on June 1, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    There is really no other explanation:
     

    [size=”3″]Statement By Attorney General Barbara Underwood On President Trump’s Pardon Of Dinesh D’Souza[/size]
    [i]President Trumps latest pardon makes crystal clear his willingness to use his pardon power to thwart the cause of justice, rather than advance it. By pardoning Dinesh DSouza, President Trump is undermining the rule of law by pardoning a political supporter who is an unapologetic convicted felon. First it was Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Then it was Scooter Libby. Now its Dinesh DSouza. We cant afford to wait to see who will be next. Lawmakers must act now to close New Yorks double jeopardy loophole and ensure that anyone who evades federal justice by virtue of a politically expedient pardon can be held accountable if they violate New York law.[/i]
    In April, the Attorney Generals office sent a letter to state lawmakers urging them to close a loophole in New Yorks double jeopardy law. Closing the loophole would ensure that individuals who broke New York law could not evade accountability for any state crimes as a result of a strategically-timed pardon by the president. [link=https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/letter_from_ag.pdf]The letter is available here.[/link] The legislation, which was introduced last month by Assemblymember Lentol and Senator Kaminsky, [link=http://nyassembly.gov/leg/?default_fld=&leg_video=&bn=A10422&term=2017&Summary=Y&Text=Y]can be found here[/link].

    btomba_77 replied 1 year, 1 month ago 12 Members · 570 Replies
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  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    June 2, 2018 at 6:04 am

    this part makes sense to me.
     
    [i]President Trumps latest pardon makes crystal clear his willingness to use his pardon power to thwart the cause of justice, rather than advance it. By pardoning Dinesh DSouza, President Trump is undermining the rule of law by pardoning a political supporter who is an unapologetic convicted felon. First it was Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Then it was Scooter Libby. Now its Dinesh DSouza.”[/i]

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      June 2, 2018 at 8:09 am

      Dicom- definition of low information lefty. Politics of now. Let’s conveniently forget about the pardons of past administrations…

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        June 2, 2018 at 11:03 am

        Like? List them please.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          June 2, 2018 at 11:56 am

          Specifically list pardons of former Presidents in their 1st term

          Thats what I want to see the guy who ……. has liberal friends post

          Cmon angry white guy ….. time to put up or shut up

          • heenadevk1119_462

            Member
            June 2, 2018 at 2:04 pm

            What cause of justice? None of those mentioned did anything wrong, certainly not according to the law.
             
            You can even make the case that Blago, while corrupt and partners with the former president himself, went to jail as an example, not as someone they truly had evidence against. I’d assume he get pardoned to, just to show the joke that Obama and his administration is, and how double crossing to boot.

      • heenadevk1119_462

        Member
        June 2, 2018 at 2:06 pm

        Quote from IR_CONSULT

        Dicom- definition of low information lefty. Politics of now. Let’s conveniently forget about the pardons of past administrations…

         
        A pardon is legit or corrupt on its own merits, yet both are legal and Constitutional, which is what FW’s point is, and why the liberal hacks here and the brainless one he quoted are yet again showing how unhealthy they are.
         
        Trump actually does this activity according to principle, not as a lame duck. But they hate him no matter what he does, so all of this is not surprising. He’s a winner, they are losers, and they just keep whining. It’s quite amusing.

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        June 3, 2018 at 5:14 pm

        Quote from IR_CONSULT

        Dicom- definition of low information lefty. Politics of now. Let’s conveniently forget about the pardons of past administrations…

        I’m simply saying that I agree with part of what she said.  If you have some other pardons you want to talk about start a thread for them.  Or just keep adding nothing but the typical low brow Tammy Lahren style insults.

        • ruszja

          Member
          June 3, 2018 at 9:20 pm

          Quote from DICOM_Dan

          I’m simply saying that I agree with part of what she said.  If you have some other pardons you want to talk about start a thread for them. 

           
          Oh, why go anywhere else.
           
          Anyone who has a problem with the pardons Trump has issued, please explain to me how they differ from the following previous presidential pardons:
           
          Bob F. Griffin (speaker of the MO house, convicted of bribery)
          Vicki Lopez Lukis (FL official convicted of mail fraud)
          Peter MacDonald (Navajo Nation official convicted of racketeering)
          Melvin J Reynolds (IL congressman convicted of mail fraud)
          Dorothy Rivers (non-profit official convicted of grant related fraud)
          Frank W. Boykin (congressman convicted of bribery)
          Andrew J. May (congressman convicted of bribery)
          Richard W. Leche (Louisiana governor convicted of misuse of federal funds)
           
          And then of course thousands of cocaine dealers sprung under the Obama administration.
           
           
           

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            June 4, 2018 at 2:31 am

            The single thing is that every one of those you list flew so far under the radar so they are not notorious or barely known. Every single name has to be googled for the average person not addicted to outrage media to find out who they were, who pardoned them and when and for what. Everyone so far in Trump’s pardon is rather notorious and infamous, which is I think, a primary reason for Trump choosing them and were all recently convicted, the oldest being, I think, “Skooter” for obstruction and lying and perjury involving the Valerie Plame affair in the Bush Administration.

    • ruszja

      Member
      June 2, 2018 at 3:28 pm

      Quote from DICOM_Dan

      this part makes sense to me.

      Which part of it makes sense ? D’Souza was convicted in federal court and the president exercised his authority to pardon him. Now a political hack who found her law degree in a box of raisin bran wants to get a second bite at the apple because she disagrees with the decision. It doesnt work that way, the king’s men only get one chance to hang someone, and it’s done that way for a reason.
      This is not even a pre-emptive pardon, the guy was convicted and served his sentence.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        June 2, 2018 at 7:07 pm

        Seriously getting your panties in a knot because Underwood is outraged & in spite of her hot air fantasizing cant do sh1te cuz laws (plural) stop her?

        Shed get her own show on Fox if she b1tched for the other side.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          June 3, 2018 at 4:49 am

          Anger

          They dont know why …..but they are angry and want everyone to no it

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        June 5, 2018 at 8:57 am

        Regarding prior pardons, I think Bret Stephens makes the best argument why Trump’s pardons are less than kosher.
         
        [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/05/opinion/trump-pardon-midterms-congress.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…midterms-congress.html[/link]
         

        The pardon power, historically, is supposed to be an instrument of individual mercy like Lincolns many pardons of Union soldiers with cowardly legs and a means of political reconciliation, like Fords controversial-but-wise pardon of Nixon. Im not sure exactly when it became an instrument of personal or political self-dealing, though Bill Clintons disgraceful pardon of Marc Rich just as he was leaving office in 2001 comes to mind.
         
        Trump, as usual, takes self-dealing to a whole new level. The pardon for Dinesh DSouza, like the previous pardon of Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona, seems to be purely a function of them being Trumpian lickspittles. A pardon for Rod Blagojevich, the impeached and imprisoned former governor of Illinois, would be a way of setting a precedent for, well, himself, in the event of his own downfall. And, of course, all this is a none-too-subtle way of sending a signal to Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort and others that they, too, can expect to get a presidential get-out-jail-free card if they refuse to cooperate with Robert Muellers investigation.
         
        In short, it is the kind of politicization of the pardon power that you might expect in, say, present-day Caracas, now coming to you from the White House.

         
        And regarding the Roseanne Barr thing:
         

        Gail:…its interesting that while Trump has forgiven the sins of several well-known bigots, the only black person hes done any favors for has been dead for more than 70 years.
         
        Bret: Cant be a surprise, can it? Wasnt it telling that the one person who got no sympathy from Trump following Barrs tweet was the target of that tweet, Valerie Jarrett? Irrespective of any political differences, why couldnt the White House extend her the courtesy of some normal human sympathy? I often think the word racist is badly overused in American discourse, but the pattern by this president birtherism, alt-right sympathy, Charlottesville is unignorable.
         
        And since we keep circling back to pardons, what do you make of Trumps new legal theory that he has a right to pardon himself? Pardon my French, but I think thats %#*¥&!.
         
        Gail: Rudy Giuliani says he does have the right, but that if he used it Congress would impeach him. Trump says he has the right, but he wont need to use it because hes as innocent as an angel. Since the men and women of Congress are planning to spend a lot of the summer in Washington in an attempt to show that theyre actually doing something perhaps theyd have time to pass a resolution just saying that no president has that right, period. They could quote legal experts or just announce that its totally nuts. In the opinion of the House and Senate.
         
        Think theres any chance?
         
        Bret: In this Congress? Dream on. Thatll have to await a change in leadership, and I dont just mean Republicans replacing themselves.

         
         
         
         
         

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          June 14, 2018 at 9:26 am

          Barbie Underwood is bringing the thunder.  I’m actually surprised this took this long because it was pretty apparent that he was scamming with charities and especially surrounding the golf businesses.
           
          “The lawsuit, filed by state Attorney General Barbara Underwood, comes after an investigation spurred by The Washington Post’s reporting.
          The suit accuses President Trump and his three eldest children of repeatedly misusing his nonprofit, including to pay off his businesses creditors, decorate one of his golf clubs and stage a multimillion-dollar giveaway at his 2016 campaign events.
          Underwood asked a state judge to dissolve the Donald J. Trump Foundation, to distribute its remaining $1 million in assets to other charities, and to force Trump to pay at least $2.8 million in restitution and damages. She also asked that the president be banned from leading any other New York nonprofit for 10 years.”

          • btomba_77

            Member
            June 30, 2018 at 8:44 am

            [link=https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-inconvenient-legal-troubles-that-lie-ahead-for-the-trump-foundation]https://www.newyorker.com…r-the-trump-foundation[/link]
             
            The Trump Foundations lawyer asked that trial not begin in October, as it was so close to the midterms.

            Quote:
            Judge Scarpulla laughed in response, did not change the trial date, and hinted that she is likely to require the President to testify.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              August 22, 2018 at 1:19 pm

              New York state investigators have issued a subpoena to Michael Cohen as part of Trump Foundation probe. The subpoena was issued after Cohen’s attorney said Cohen has information that would be of interest to prosecutors at both the state and federal level.

              Some people may have forgotten that Trump ran a scam foundation that he used for personal gain.

              • Unknown Member

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                August 22, 2018 at 1:41 pm

                Remember when trump said if Hillary got elected she would be under constant investigation

                …… pot meet kettle

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  August 22, 2018 at 1:46 pm

                  I think it was many Repubicans who swore that oath. Including, unfortunately, McCain if I recall correctly.

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    June 3, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    Quote from fw

    Quote from DICOM_Dan

    this part makes sense to me.

    Which part of it makes sense ? D’Souza was convicted in federal court and the president exercised his authority to pardon him. Now a political hack who found her law degree in a box of raisin bran wants to get a second bite at the apple because she disagrees with the decision. It doesnt work that way, the king’s men only get one chance to hang someone, and it’s done that way for a reason.
    This is not even a pre-emptive pardon, the guy was convicted and served his sentence.

    This part that I took our from the quote.  I don’t agree with the changing double jeopardy.  There’s people that deserve a pardon….but not these 3.
     
    [i]President Trumps latest pardon makes crystal clear his willingness to use his pardon power to thwart the cause of justice, rather than advance it. By pardoning Dinesh DSouza, President Trump is undermining the rule of law by pardoning a political supporter who is an unapologetic convicted felon. First it was Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Then it was Scooter Libby. Now its Dinesh DSouza.”[/i]

    • ruszja

      Member
      June 3, 2018 at 9:02 pm

      Quote from DICOM_Dan

      This part that I took our from the quote.  I don’t agree with the changing double jeopardy.  There’s people that deserve a pardon….but not these 3.

       
      Fair enough. Many presidential pardons have been controversial. The difference is that Trump is doing these controversial pardons up front and one by one rather than under the cover of night and by the hundreds in the last days of his presidency.
       
       

  • Unknown Member

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    August 22, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    BILL CLINTON PARDONS AND COMMUTATIONS
     
    [h2][/h2] [ol][*]James Barker (Flonzy)[*]Ronald Henderson Blackley[*]Bert Wayne Bolan[*]Jon Michael Burton charged with heavy drug trafficking[*]Gloria Libia Camargo[*]Charles F. Campbell[*]David Ronald Chandler federal [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_row]death row[/link] inmate[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-3][3][/link][/sup][*]Lau Ching Chin[*]Donald R. Clark[*]Loreta De-Ann Coffman[*]Derrick Curry[*]Velinda Desalus[*]Jacob Elbaum[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Sue_Evans]Linda Sue Evans[/link][*]Loretta Sharon Fish[*]Antoinette M. Frink[*]David Goldstein[*]Gerard A. Greenfield[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_F._Griffin]Bob F. Griffin[/link]  former Speaker of the [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_House_of_Representatives]Missouri House of Representatives[/link], who was serving two years on bribery charges[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-4][4][/link][/sup][*]Jodie E. Israel[*]Kimberly Johnson[*]Billy Thornton Langston Jr.[*]Vicki Lopez Lukis former [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_County,_Florida]Lee County[/link], FL Commissioner who was serving a 27-month sentence for honest services mail fraud; her conviction was vacated on February 14, 2011[*]Belinda Lynn Lumpkin[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_MacDonald_(Navajo_leader)]Peter MacDonald[/link]  [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Nation]Navajo Chairman[/link], serving a 14-year sentence for fraud and racketeering convictions[*]Kellie Ann Mann[*]Peter Ninemire[*]Hugh Ricardo Padmore[*]Amy Ralston Pofahl – released on July 7, 2000 due to “disparity of sentence” because her husband, the ringleader, received 3 years probation and she was held accountable for all the drugs he manufactured even though her role was limited.[*]Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud, managed Clinton’s 1967 campaign for student-council president[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-time.com-5][5][/link][/sup][*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Reynolds]Melvin J. Reynolds[/link]  Democratic Congressman from Illinois  [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_fraud]bank fraud[/link] and [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstruction_of_justice]obstruction of justice[/link][*]Pedro Miguel Riveiro[*]Dorothy Rivers lead official in [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson]Jesse Jackson[/link]’s [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow/PUSH]Rainbow/PUSH[/link] Coalition, plead guilty to theft of $1.2 million in federal grant money[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rosenberg]Susan Rosenberg[/link][*]Kalmen Stern[*]Cory Stringfellow[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Vignali]Carlos Anibal Vignali[/link]  [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convict]convicted[/link] of [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine]cocaine[/link] [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_trafficking]trafficking[/link][*]Thomas Wilson Waddell III[*]Harvey Weining[*]Kim Allen Willis[*]Kemba Smith [/ol] [h2][/h2] [ol][*]Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_agency]agency[/link] of the United States)[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-6][6][/link][/sup][*]Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine]cocaine[/link])[*]Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering]money laundering[/link] conspiracy)[*]Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_evasion]tax evasion[/link])[*]William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_fraud]wire fraud[/link])[*]Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)[*]Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)[*]Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)[*]Scott Lynn Bane (unlawful distribution of marijuana)[*]Thomas Cleveland Barber (issuing worthless checks)[*]Peggy Ann Bargon (violation of the [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacey_Act]Lacey Act[/link], violation of the [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_Eagle_Protection_Act]Bald Eagle Protection Act[/link])[*]David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)[*]William Arthur Borders Jr. (conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge ([link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcee_L._Hastings]Alcee L. Hastings[/link]), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions, corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein, and traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)[*]Arthur David Borel (odometer rollback)[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-post-7][7][/link][/sup][*]Douglas Charles Borel (odometer rollback)[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-post-7][7][/link][/sup][*]George Thomas Brabham (making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almon_Glenn_Braswell]Almon Glenn Braswell[/link] (1983 [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_fraud]mail fraud[/link] and [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perjury]perjury[/link])[*]Leonard Browder (illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)[*]David Steven Brown (securities fraud and mail fraud)[*]Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (possession of marijuana)[*]John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)[*]Mary Louise Campbell (unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)[*]Eloida Candelaria (false information in registering to vote)[*]Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (filing false statements in alien registration)[*]Donna Denise Chambers (intent to distribute cocaine)[*]Douglas Eugene Chapman (bank fraud)[*]Ronald Keith Chapman (bank fraud)[*]Francisco Larois Chavez (aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-post-7][7][/link][/sup][*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cisneros]Henry Cisneros[/link] (former [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Housing_and_Urban_Development]HUD[/link] [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_Housing_and_Urban_Development]Secretary[/link])[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Clinton,_Jr.]Roger Clinton, Jr.[/link] (cocaine charges, half-brother of [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President]President[/link] [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton]Bill Clinton[/link])[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-time.com-5][5][/link][/sup][*]Stuart Harris Cohn (illegal sale of commodity options)[*]David Marc Cooper (conspiracy to defraud the government)[*]Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (defraud of federally insured savings and loan)[*]John F. Cross Jr. (embezzlement)[*]Rickey Lee Cunningham (intent to distribute marijuana)[*]Richard Anthony De Labio (mail fraud)[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Deutch]John Deutch[/link] (former Director of [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency]Central Intelligence Agency[/link])[*]Richard Douglas (false statements to a government agent)[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Downe,_Jr.]Edward Downe, Jr.[/link] (wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)[*]Marvin Dean Dudley (false statements)[*]Larry Lee Duncan[*]Galen R. Elmore (convicted of cattle theft)[*]Robert Clinton Fain[*]Marcos Arcenio Fernandez[*]Alvarez Ferrouillet[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_O._Flipper]Henry O. Flipper[/link]  guilty of “conduct unbecoming an officer” (1882)[*]William Dennis Fugazy[*]Lloyd Reid George[*]Louis Goldstein[*]Rubye Lee Gordon[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pincus_Green]Pincus Green[/link][*]Robert Ivey Hamner[*]Samuel Price Handley[*]Woodie Randolph Handley[*]Jay Houston Harmon[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Hendrick]Rick Hendrick[/link][*]John Hemmingson[*]David S. Herdlinger[*]Debi Rae Huckleberry[*]Warren C. Hultgren Jr.[*]Donald Ray James[*]Stanley Pruet Jobe[*]Ruben H. Johnson[*]Linda Jones[*]Preston King (Civil rights activism)[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-8][8][/link][/sup][*]James Howard Lake[*]June Louise Lewis[*]Salim Bonnor Lewis[*]John Leighton Lodwick[*]Hildebrando Lopez[*]Jose Julio Luaces[*]James Timothy Maness[*]James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)[*]John Robert Martin[*]Frank Ayala Martinez[*]Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez[*]John Francis McCormick[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_McDougal]Susan H. McDougal[/link] ([link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy]Whitewater controversy[/link])[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Mechanic]Howard Mechanic[/link][*]Brook K. Mitchell Sr.[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Loring_Morison]Samuel Loring Morison[/link][*]Charles Wilfred Morgan III[*]Richard Anthony Nazzaro[*]Charlene Ann Nosenko[*]Vernon Raymond Obermeier[*]Miguelina Ogalde[*]David C. Owen[*]Robert W. Palmer[*]Kelli Anne Perhosky[*]Richard H. Pezzopane[*]Orville Rex Phillips[*]Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.[*]James G. Powell[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Lyle_Prouse]Norman Lyle Prouse[/link]  former Captain for [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines]Northwest Airlines[/link], imprisoned for flying while intoxicated[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-post-7][7][/link][/sup][*]Willie H. H. Pruitt Jr.[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-9][9][/link][/sup][*]Danny Martin Pursley Sr.[*]Charles D. Ravenel[*]William Clyde Ray[*]Alfredo Luna Regalado[*]Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich]Marc Rich[/link][*]Howard Winfield Riddle[*]Richard Wilson Riley Jr. (cocaine and marijuana charges, father was Clinton’s Education Secretary)[link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton#cite_note-time.com-5][5][/link][/sup][*]Samuel Lee Robbins[*]Joel Gonzales Rodriguez[*]Michael James Rogers[*]Anna Louise Ross[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rostenkowski]Dan Rostenkowski[/link]  former [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)]Democratic[/link] [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives]Congressman[/link] convicted in the [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Post_Office_scandal]Congressional Post Office scandal[/link][*]Gerald Glen Rust[*]Jerri Ann Rust[*]Bettye June Rutherford[*]Gregory Lee Sands[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Schwimmer]Al Schwimmer[/link][*]Albert A. Seretti Jr.[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Hearst]Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw[/link][*]Dennis Joseph Smith[*]Gerald Owen Smith[*]Stephen A. Smith[*]Jimmie Lee Speake[*]Charles Bernard Stewart[*]Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fife_Symington_III]Fife Symington III[/link]  former [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)]Republican[/link] [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona]Arizona[/link] governor[*]Richard Lee Tannehill[*]Nicholas C. Tenaglia[*]Gary Allen Thomas[*]Larry Weldon Todd[*]Olga C. Trevino[*]Ignatious Vamvouklis[*]Patricia A. Van De Weerd[*][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wade_(real_estate_broker)]Christopher V. Wade[/link][*]Bill Wayne Warmath[*]Jack Kenneth Watson[*]Donna Lynn Webb[*]Donald William Wells[*]Robert H. Wendt[*]Jack L. Williams[*]Kavin Arthur Williams[*]Robert Michael Williams[*]Jimmie Lee Wilson[*]Thelma Louise Wingate[*]Mitchell Couey Wood[*]Warren Stannard Wood[*]Dewey Worthey[*]Rick Allen Yale[*]Joseph A. Yasak[*]William Stanley Yingling[*]Phillip David Young[*]Keith Sanders[*]Darren Muci[*]John Scott (not a full pardon)[*]Amy Ralston Pofahl (drug money laundering, distribution and manufacturing Ecstasy) [/ol]  
     

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      August 22, 2018 at 11:17 pm

      Trumps pardons and commutations — ALL SEVEN
       
      Trump Pardons and Commutations
       
      Arpaio
      Sholom Rubashkin
      Kristian Saucier
      Scooter Libby
      Jack Johnson
      Dinesh Dsouza
      Alice Johnson
      Dwight Hammond
       

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        August 23, 2018 at 3:28 am

        Apparently some significance visible only to the Trump faithful.
         
         

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          August 23, 2018 at 5:37 am

          Arpaio is the worst of the worst, however, this looks like just some classic what about-ism.  

          • Unknown Member

            Deleted User
            August 23, 2018 at 6:28 am

            Cant compare 8 yrs to 1 and 1/2

            Most presidential pardons are near the end of their time in office

            But hey who gives a F about the truth

            • ruszja

              Member
              August 23, 2018 at 7:04 am

              Quote from kpack123

              Most presidential pardons are near the end of their time in office

               
              That’s a problem, right ?

              • Unknown Member

                Deleted User
                August 23, 2018 at 7:13 am

                Absolutely thats a problem

                So to make a comparison between trump at this point

                And any other president is unfair

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  August 23, 2018 at 7:27 am

                  One might think that there could (post-Trump) be a bipartisan agreement that pardon power of the President is over-broad….. it could be the next constitutional amendment.
                   
                  ____
                   
                  But that has nothing to with this thread or the attempted “what about” deflection off the topic.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 4, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    New filing from the NY AG on the Trump Foundation:
     
     
    [link=https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2018_the_people_of_the_stat_v_the_people_of_the_stat_memorandum_9._.pdf]https://ag.ny.gov/sites/d…tat_memorandum_9._.pdf[/link]
     
    New York attorney general says Trump caused his Trump Foundation charity to break the law as she seeks to ban president from non-profits for a decade
     
    [ul][*]New York State Attorney General Barbara Underwood in a new court filing Thursday said that President Donald Trump caused his charitable foundation to break state and federal laws.[*][*]Underwood said Trump’s actions in that regard, and his use of the Trump Foundation “for his own personal benefit,” justified her request to ban him for 10 years from being involved in any non-profit group.[*][*]”Donald J. Trump used his control over the Donald J. Trump Foundation for his personal, business and political interests in violation of federal and state law governing charities,” Underwood said in the filing in State Supreme Court in Manhattan. [/ul]  

     

    • afazio.uk_887

      Member
      October 4, 2018 at 6:57 pm

      D’Souza is a really bright guy.  Fantastic debater.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        October 5, 2018 at 4:15 am

        D’Souza? D’Souza went off the rails many years ago. He might be bright be he’s also crazy as a loon. He believes in crap equivalent to Alex Jones’s dreck.
         
        [link=https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/dinesh-dsouza-is-making-a-comeback/567233/]https://www.theatlantic.c…ing-a-comeback/567233/[/link]
         

        At the beginning of August, Donald Trump Jr. co-hosted the premiere of DSouzas latest movie, [i][link=https://variety.com/2018/film/news/donald-trump-jr-to-co-host-death-of-a-nation-screening-in-dc-with-dinesh-dsouza-1202891884/]Death of a Nation[/link][/i]. The movie compares Donald Trump to Abraham Lincoln, and his Democratic opponents to Nazis. Afterward, Trump Jr. delivered a memorable [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIuogiVy33o&feature=youtu.be]summation[/link] of what he had learned from the film. You see the Nazi platform in the early 1930s and what was actually put out there and you look at it compared to, like, the DNC platform of today, and youre saying, man, those things are awfully similar, to a point where its actually scary.  
         
        If you need a historians point-by-point refutation of DSouzas grotesque and absurd abuse of history, Princetons Kevin Kruse has [link=https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1024360878760779776.html]posted[/link] a useful recapitulation.
         
        I find myself pondering a different question as I watch so many people I have known and admired subordinate their talents and their integrity to Trumpism: How has my political generation of conservatives and Republicans laid itself so intellectually and morally low?
         
        There is obviously much for a conservative to criticize in the Obama record at home and abroad. Unlike Bill Clinton, who in many ways ratified the legacy of Ronald Reagan, Obama repudiated it.
        Yet an annoying thing for those who disliked Obamas politics: He is at the same time a genuinely high-quality personalityintelligent, considerate, dignified, and self-disciplined. Those who hated him were deprived of any rational basis to despise him. Lacking a rational basis, they reverted to irrationality instead.
         
        Which is how the Dinesh DSouza who in 1995 proclaimed the end of racism in America [link=https://twitter.com/dineshdsouza/status/568074632844017664?lang=en]could react[/link] to a humorous 2015 photograph of Obama playing with a selfie stick: YOU CAN TAKE THE BOY OUT OF THE GHETTO Watch this vulgar man show his stuff, while America cowers in embarrassment.    
         
        Even as DSouza published books attributing all American racism to the Democrats, his own writing seemed gripped by an ever less controlled and concealed racial animus.
         
        Midway through his 2017 book, [i]The Big Lie[/i], DSouza approvingly cites Stanley Elkinss startling insight that hostile racial stereotypessuch as the whimsical, happy go lucky, semi-idiotic Samboare not racial fictions.

         
         
         

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    October 5, 2018 at 8:49 am

    If you need a pardon, you’re probably not that great of a person.

    • afazio.uk_887

      Member
      October 5, 2018 at 8:53 am

      I didn’t say he was a great guy or not a loon…. just that he is a bright guy and very good at debating his point of view. 
       
      Of course, he is taking extreme views mostly to get his name in the paper and sell books/movies….. that’s an American tradition after all. 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    November 23, 2018 at 4:12 pm

    [h1]Trump Foundation Lawsuit May Proceed[/h1]

    A New York state judge on Friday denied a request by attorneys for President Trump to throw out a [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-files-suit-against-president-trump-alleging-his-charity-engaged-in-illegal-conduct/2018/06/14/c3cbf71e-6fc9-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html?utm_term=.24aaf4fddcae]lawsuit[/link] alleging that Trump and his family violated charity laws with the management of their personal foundation, the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-state-judge-allows-suit-against-trump-and-his-personal-charity-to-proceed/2018/11/23/f5674d0e-ef4f-11e8-96d4-0d23f2aaad09_story.html?utm_term=.8623c387f78e&wpisrc=al_politics__alert-politics&wpmk=1]Washington Post[/link] reports.

    [link=https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/23/politics/trump-foundation-new-york-state-lawsuit/index.html]CNN[/link]: In her decision, Justice Saliann Scarpulla ruled that a sitting president can face a civil lawsuit in state court for actions not taken in his official capacity. That ruling puts Scarpulla in agreement with another recent ruling against Trump, a decision in the defamation lawsuit brought against him by Summer Zervos, a former contestant on [i]The Apprentice[/i].

    And, Scarpulla said, it is in line with the US Supreme Courts 1997 ruling concerning President Bill Clinton in response to Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit.
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    December 18, 2018 at 9:46 am

    [h1]Trump Agrees to Shut Down His Charity[/h1]

    New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood announced Tuesday that the foundation is dissolving and distributing its remaining funds as her office pursues a lawsuit against the charity, President Trump and his three eldest children, who oversaw the Donald J. Trump Foundation, the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/12/18/trump-agrees-to-shut-down-his-charity-amid-allegations-he-used-it-for-personal-and-political-benefit/?utm_term=.c7de82abc326&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics–alert-national&wpmk=1]Washington Post[/link] reports.

    The shuttering of Trumps charity comes after stories in [i]The Post[/i] documented apparent lapses at the foundation. Trump used the charitys funds pay off legal settlements for his private business, to purchase art that decorated one of his golf clubs and to make a prohibited political donation.
     

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      December 18, 2018 at 10:27 am

      So much for the cereal box law degree

      • ruszja

        Member
        December 18, 2018 at 11:21 am

        Quote from kpack123

        So much for the cereal box law degree

         
        Except that a case her staff prosecuted has nothing to do with the poor understanding of the law she expressed when she wanted to do away with that pesky double-jeopardy thing.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          December 18, 2018 at 12:38 pm

          Uhhhh yeah sure

          Arent you tired of saying stupid legal sheet that isnt true?

          • yao.bw39_792

            Member
            December 18, 2018 at 12:54 pm

            If you look her up on Wikipedia she has had an impressive career.  Obviously not a typical trump nominee.

            • yao.bw39_792

              Member
              December 18, 2018 at 8:01 pm

              If you cut up the paintings you could sell them for TP.
              [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421982-trump-foundation-to-sell-off-remaining-assets-including-trump?fbclid=IwAR1r7q_s2wF9lkaMTaMZx_th7xjVYLG4eOqAKUXwnCJ5uNkpIbs1pJWgPJ0]https://thehill.com/homen…UXwnCJ5uNkpIbs1pJWgPJ0[/link]
               
               

              • btomba_77

                Member
                February 22, 2019 at 9:32 am

                [h1]New York Will Charge Manafort If Trump Pardons Him[/h1]

                New York state prosecutors have put together a criminal case against Paul Manafort that they could file quickly if the former chairman of Donald Trumps 2016 campaign receives a presidential pardon, [link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-22/new-york-is-said-to-prep-manafort-charges-if-trump-pardons-him]Bloomberg[/link] reports.

                New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. is ready to file an array of tax and other charges against Manafort something seen as an insurance policy should the president exercise his power to free the former aide. Skirting laws that protect defendants from being charged twice for the same offense has been one of Vances challenges.

                [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/22/nyregion/manafort-pardon-trump.html]New York Times[/link]: They resumed their investigation in recent months, and a state grand jury began hearing evidence in the case The panel is expected to wrap up its work in the coming weeks and prosecutors likely will ask the grand jurors to vote on charges shortly thereafter.
                 

                • katiemckee84_223

                  Member
                  February 22, 2019 at 10:12 am

                  Losers lose again

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    March 11, 2019 at 9:20 pm

                    [h1]New York Attorney General Opens New Probe of Trump, Issues Subpoenas to Deutsche Bank[/h1]

                    The New York attorney generals office late on Monday issued subpoenas to Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank for records relating to the financing of four major Trump Organization projects and a failed effort to buy the Buffalo Bills of the National Football League in 2014, the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/nyregion/deutsche-bank-trump.html]New York Times[/link] reports.

                    The inquiry opens a new front in the scrutiny of Deutsche Bank, one of the few lenders willing to do business with Donald Trump in recent years. The bank is already the subject of two congressional investigations and was examined last year by New York banking regulators, who took no action.
                     

            • btomba_77

              Member
              February 18, 2021 at 3:37 pm

              [h1][b]Manhattan DA Recruits Top Prosecutor Trump Criminal Inquiry[/b][/h1]  
              As the Manhattan district attorneys office steps up the criminal investigation of Donald Trump, it has reached outside its ranks to enlist a prominent former federal prosecutor to help scrutinize financial dealings at the former presidents company, the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/nyregion/trump-investigation-manhattan.html]New York Times[/link] reports.
               
              The former prosecutor, Mark Pomerantz, has deep experience investigating and defending white-collar and organized crime cases, bolstering the team under District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. that is examining Mr. Trump and his family business, the Trump Organization.
               

            • btomba_77

              Member
              October 14, 2021 at 11:07 am

              [h1][b]Trump Ordered to Give Videotaped Deposition[/b][/h1]  
               
              Former President Donald Trump must sit for a videotaped deposition next week as part of a lawsuit involving his anti-immigrant rhetoric,[link=https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-give-videotaped-deposition-protest-lawsuit-judge-orders/story?id=80579982]ABC News[/link] reports.
               
              A group of Mexican protesters said they were assaulted during a rally outside Trump Tower in September 2015 over the then-candidates comments that Mexican immigrants were criminals and rapists.

              “Donald J. Trump shall appear for a deposition October 18, 2021 at 10 a.m. … or, in the event of illness or emergency, on another mutually agreed to date on or before October 31, 2021,” Judge Doris Gonzalez’s order said.
               

              • kaldridgewv2211

                Member
                October 14, 2021 at 6:30 pm

                The oof meter must by on red alert. Hes not exactly great on tape.

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  October 17, 2021 at 5:23 am

                  (weird that the thread with this title has become the repository for a Trump legal stuff but …)
                   
                  [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-be-deposed-monday-protesters-lawsuit-claiming-assault-his-security-n1281472]https://www.nbcnews.com/p…-his-security-n1281472[/link]

                  [h1][b]Trump to be deposed Monday in protesters’ lawsuit claiming assault by his security guards[/b][/h1] Trump will be questioned under oath about a 2015 incident in which his security is alleged to have roughed up demonstrators outside Trump Tower.
                   

            • btomba_77

              Member
              September 19, 2022 at 6:21 pm

              trump team not happy happy with the new special master –
               
              First thing: he wants them to clarify any steps they took toward declassification.. Trump team says they can’t because that’s part of their criminal defense in case of indictment.
               
               
              Master also compresses the timeline for review to Oct 7.
               
              He also is asking why addition 4th amendment filings shouldn’t go back to judge Reinhart again instead of Cannon.

              • ruszja

                Member
                September 19, 2022 at 9:17 pm

                Quote from dergon

                trump team not happy happy with the new special master –

                First thing: he wants them to clarify any steps they took toward declassification.. Trump team says they can’t because that’s part of their criminal defense in case of indictment.

                 
                They gonna be so upset if all he does is pluck out a few letters of trumps private attorneys and declares that none of the government records are privileged.
                 
                (There is apparently a subgroup of classified records that could genuinely be protected under executive privilege. And that is documents created specifically for the presidents consumption by a presidential advisor. Classification does not mean that something is not covered by privilege)

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  September 20, 2022 at 3:58 am

                  Quote from fw

                  Quote from dergon

                  trump team not happy happy with the new special master –

                  First thing: he wants them to clarify any steps they took toward declassification.. Trump team says they can’t because that’s part of their criminal defense in case of indictment.

                  They gonna be so upset if all he does is pluck out a few letters of trumps private attorneys and declares that none of the government records are privileged.

                  That seems like the reasonable action for the SM to take

                  • kaldridgewv2211

                    Member
                    September 20, 2022 at 8:27 am

                    Has there ever been a reasonable explanation as to why he took them in the first place?  The idea that he’s writing a memoir is ripe with the smell of BS and why would you need this type of classified info to do so.

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  September 22, 2022 at 1:21 pm

                  Quote from fw

                  Quote from dergon

                  trump team not happy happy with the new special master –

                  First thing: he wants them to clarify any steps they took toward declassification.. Trump team says they can’t because that’s part of their criminal defense in case of indictment.

                  They gonna be so upset if all he does is pluck out a few letters of trumps private attorneys and declares that none of the government records are privileged.

                  looks like they’re going to be even more unhappy today…
                   
                  [b] [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/22/dearie-trump-order-declassify/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics]Dearie asks Trump lawyers whether they believe FBI lied about seized documents[/link][/b]
                   
                   

                  [b]Order by Mar-a-Lago special master is the first time Donald Trumps attorneys have been asked to confirm or deny his claims in court  [/b]
                     

                   
                  In a Thursday afternoon filing, [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/16/raymond-dearie-special-master-trump-documents/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4&itid=lk_inline_manual_4]U.S. District Judge Raymond J. Dearie[/link]  the special master told Trumps legal team to state by Sept. 30 whether they believe any of the seized items were incorrectly described in the Justice Departments[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/02/fbi-inventory-mar-a-lago/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4] 11-page inventory list[/link], which said some of the documents were highly classified.
                   

                  Dearie also told them to say whether they are claiming that any items on the inventory list were not in fact taken from the premises.
                   

                  Trump has said on social media and in television interviews that the FBI planted items and [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/16/trump-records-archives-clippings/?itid=lk_inline_manual_7]described as classified documents that he had declassified [/link]when they searched his Mar-A-Lago residence and private club on Aug. 8. His lawyers have not asserted that in court, however, instead saying they have not reviewed the seized materials and are unable to confirm whether the governments inventory list is accurate.
                   

                  Dearies order marks the first time that a courts has demanded that Trumps lawyers back up his claims. The submission shall be Plaintiffs final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory, he wrote.

                   

                   
                   

            • btomba_77

              Member
              November 21, 2022 at 12:13 pm

              The prosecution rested its case on Monday in the criminal trial of former President Donald Trumps real estate company on charges including tax fraud after calling five witnesses over three weeks, setting the stage for the Trump Organization to begin to mount its defense.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              January 18, 2023 at 5:17 am

              [b]Manhattan Trump Hush Money Probe Heats Back Up[/b][/h1]  
               
              The Manhattan district attorneys office on Tuesday took a significant step forward in its investigation of Donald Trump, meeting with his former personal lawyer about hush money paid to a porn star who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump, the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/17/nyregion/trump-investigation-michael-cohen-stormy-daniels.html]New York Times[/link] reports.
               
              The questioning of the lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, offered the clearest sign yet that the district attorneys office was ramping up its investigation into Mr. Trumps role in the $130,000 hush money deal. Mr. Cohen has said publicly that Mr. Trump directed him, in the final days of the 2016 presidential campaign, to buy the silence of Stephanie Clifford, the actress known as Stormy Daniels.
               
              While the hush money was an impetus for the district attorneys investigation, which began in 2018, prosecutors had shifted in recent years to a broader examination of Mr. Trumps business practices. In recent months, however, the prosecutors returned to the payments, seeking to breathe new life into the investigation.

               

            • btomba_77

              Member
              March 11, 2023 at 4:01 am

              [h1][b]Michael Cohen to Testify at Grand Jury[/b][/h1] [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/nyregion/trump-bragg-cohen-indictment.html?searchResultPosition=1]New York Times[/link] 
               
              The Manhattan district attorneys office has already questioned at least seven other people before the grand jury hearing evidence about the hush money deal, according to several other people with knowledge of the inquiry, potentially making Mr. Cohen the last witness.
               
              Once he has testified, nearly every crucial player in the hush money matter will have appeared before the grand jury with the exception of the porn star herself, Stormy Daniels, who may not be called to testify.
               
              It would be highly unusual for a prosecutor in a high-profile white-collar case to go through a weekslong presentation of evidence and question nearly every relevant witness without intending to seek an indictment.
               

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 14, 2019 at 7:09 am

    [link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-14/trump-world-s-new-york-legal-problems-finally-hit-home-this-week?srnd=premium]https://www.bloomberg.com…this-week?srnd=premium[/link]

    [h1]Trump Worlds New York Legal Problems Finally Hit Home This Week[/h1]

    This week New York affirmed whats been mere speculation until now: Law enforcement in the state, where Trump has long based his business, is starting civil and criminal investigations that are well beyond the presidents federal control. Those may lead to charges against people in his orbit, including his children, with crimes that he cant pardon. They may also bog down his business operations.

    “These are things he cant exert control over,” said Mimi Rocah, a former federal prosecutor in the U.S. attorneys office in Manhattan. ”

    Trump also has the power to steer federal probes, but the developments in New York expose the limits of that power. Presidents cant issue pardons for state crimes or fire state officials who happen to be investigating them.

    “A state is a separate sovereign,” said former Florida federal prosecutor [link=https://www.hinshawlaw.com/professionals-David-Weinstein.html]David Weinstein[/link], now a white-collar criminal defense lawyer. That is the beauty of our system of federalism here, and thats what the founding fathers set up.

    The biggest New York threat so far to Trump and his children is the civil probe of the Manhattan-based Trump Organization, where they all held senior roles. New York Attorney General Letitia James, an outspoken critic of Trump who called him an “illegitimate president” during her campaign last year, subpoenaed Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank over loans for Trump real-estate projects and a failed bid to buy the National Football Leagues Buffalo Bills, according to a person familiar with the matter.

    Trump Organization spokeswoman Amanda Miller didnt respond to a request for comment on the subpoenas.

    [/QUOTE]
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    May 21, 2019 at 6:52 pm

    [b]New York Votes to Close Double-Jeopardy Loophole[/b][/h1]  
     
     
    The New York Assembly passed a bill on Tuesday that closes the so-called double jeopardy loophole, permitting state authorities to prosecute someone who receives a pardon from the president, [link=https://www.npr.org/2019/05/21/725495478/new-york-assembly-passes-bill-closing-double-jeopardy-loophole-as-rebuke-to-trum]NPR[/link] reports.
    Top Democrats in the state framed the change as a way to stand up to President Trump by removing a shield that had protected defendants from being prosecuted twice for similar crimes, and could have benefited those receiving pardons.

     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      February 13, 2020 at 2:35 pm

      [b]Trump Accused of Quid Pro Quo with New York[/b][/h1]  
      President Trump appeared to link his administrations policies toward New York to a demand that the state drop investigations and lawsuits related to his administration as well as his personal business and finances, [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/trump-new-york-investigations-114991]Politico[/link] reports.
       
      Hours before New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo was set to meet the president at the White House, Trump tweeted that Cuomo must understand that National Security far exceeds politics, a reference to his administrations recent decision to halt New Yorks access to the Global Entry and other trusted traveler programs that allow New Yorkers faster border crossings and shorter airport lines.
       
      Trump continued: New York must stop all of its unnecessary lawsuits & harrassment, start cleaning itself up, and lowering taxes.
       
      Trumps invocation of lawsuits & harrassment was a reference to the states numerous lawsuits against his administration and also against Trumps business.

       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        July 24, 2020 at 3:45 am

        [b]Trump administration backs off blocking New York Residents from Global Entry program, admits to “false statements” in legal battle[/b]
         
        [b][link=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/nyregion/trusted-traveler-homeland-security.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/nyregion/trusted-traveler-homeland-security.html[/link][/b]
         
        [b]

        Homeland Security officials made false statements in a bid to justify expelling New York residents from programs that let United States travelers speed through borders and airport lines, federal lawyers admitted on Thursday.

        The unusual admission, contained in a court filing, said the inaccuracies undermine a central argument in the Trump administrations case for barring New Yorkers from the programs after the state passed a law enabling undocumented immigrants to get drivers licenses.

        The filing was a surprising retreat by the administration in its continuing battle with Democratic-led states and cities over immigration policy.

        Federal officials had previously insisted that New York was an outlier in the restrictions it placed on the access the immigration authorities have to State Department of Motor Vehicles records.

        ***
        But in their filing on Thursday, the government lawyers acknowledged that several other states, Washington, D.C., and some U.S. territories also limited access to motor vehicle information and had not been subject to similar clampdowns.

        ***
        Defendants deeply regret the foregoing inaccurate or misleading statements and apologize to the court and plaintiffs for the need to make these corrections at this late stage in the litigation, said Audrey Strauss, the acting United States attorney in Manhattan.

        ***

        [/b]

        • btomba_77

          Member
          July 25, 2020 at 1:30 pm

          [h1]Cuomo Accuses Homeland Security of Criminal Activity[/h1]  
          New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) alleged that top Department of Homeland Security officials Chad Wolf and Ken Cuccinelli could be subject to criminal charges for their decision to block New Yorkers from enrolling in expedited border crossing programs, [link=https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/07/24/cuomo-then-schumer-accuse-dhs-officials-of-potential-criminal-activity-1303418]Politico[/link] reports.
          He also implied that the decision might be responsible for exacerbating the outbreak of Covid-19 in New York.
           

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 3, 2020 at 10:07 am

    Trumps Company Being Investigated for Fraud
    [link=https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/510280-prosecutors-hint-at-probe-into-possibly-extensive-and-protracted]’possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization'[/link]

    The Manhattan district attorneys office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past, the New York Times reports.

    The office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., made the disclosure in a new federal court filing arguing Mr. Trump should have to comply with its subpoena seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns. Mr. Trump has asked a judge to declare the subpoena invalid.

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 6, 2020 at 7:45 am

      [link=https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/08/ny-ag-letitia-james-to-make-major-announcement-after-deutsche-bank-turns-over-trump-finances.html]https://www.syracuse.com/…er-trump-finances.html[/link]

      NY AG Letitia James to make major announcement after Deutsche Bank turns over Trump finances

      • clickpenguin_460

        Member
        August 6, 2020 at 8:16 am

        I wonder if it’s that his family members have received millions of dollars of funds from foreign governments?
         
        Oh wait, I thought you were talking about Biden….I mean Clinton….oh man I’m all confused now.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          August 6, 2020 at 8:21 am

          How about you are not a trumper

          But you play one on aunt Minnie

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        August 6, 2020 at 9:20 am

        Quote from dergon

        [link=https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/08/ny-ag-letitia-james-to-make-major-announcement-after-deutsche-bank-turns-over-trump-finances.html]https://www.syracuse.com/…er-trump-finances.html[/link]

        NY AG Letitia James to make major announcement after Deutsche Bank turns over Trump finances

        or she’s trying to disband the NRA.  I actually like what she’s doing here because one of the most blatant abuses is Wayne Pierre treated that place like his personal piggy bank.  I’m surprised people kept donating to it.  It was pretty clear he misusing $$$ for a long time.

        • clickpenguin_460

          Member
          August 6, 2020 at 9:40 am

          Not sure if going for disbanding them is the right tactic but we will see how it plays out. Usually when someone like pierre misuses funds of an organization then the people themselves are held liable, go to jail, etc. Going for disbandment makes it seem like a political hit job.

        • kayla.meyer_144

          Member
          August 6, 2020 at 9:43 am

          Because, “Only I, Wayne LaPierre can save your guns from the jack-booted gubmint Liberals!”

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 9:44 am

    If it is just one person yeah

    But if it is knowlingly undertaking fraud and abuse by a large number of persons then giving the organization the death sentence a la Trump Charities is the right way to go

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      August 6, 2020 at 9:46 am

      True. We will have to see if that’s the case. If those crimes are true then they deserve to be punished.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        August 6, 2020 at 9:48 am

        How many members actually know or care about LaPeirre’s and company’s corruption and embezzlement of funds? All most people know is that the NRA will save their guns from confiscation.
         
        A very successful propaganda campaign.

        • clickpenguin_460

          Member
          August 6, 2020 at 10:10 am

          Probably true.
           
          The Constitution saves our guns.

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            August 6, 2020 at 10:14 am

            The Constitution guarantees the right to violently overthrow the US government one does not like. Says so in the 2nd Amendment, the reason the Founders put it there. 

            • clickpenguin_460

              Member
              August 6, 2020 at 10:21 am

              Okay?  The interpretation is usually that of an oppressive government that removes the rights of its citizens.

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                August 6, 2020 at 11:13 am

                Quote from Cubsfan10

                Okay?  The interpretation is usually that of an oppressive government that removes the rights of its citizens.

                Who defines that? A citizen? A group of citizens? States?
                 
                So, I arm myself & declare war on the Federal Government, advocating a violent overthrow of the government based on my 2nd Amendment rights & the judges & juries will find me innocent for exercising my Constitutional rights?
                 
                I don’t think so.
                 
                So how would that work exactly? Assuming a “citizen militia” does take over some territory, they will be found, in an objective Court, to just be exercising their Constitutional rights per the 2nd Amendment?
                 
                You think Scalia would have supported that? Even Thomas?
                 
                I believe some states tried to separate themselves from the “oppressive” government before & it didn’t turn out so well to support their argument. Not to mention their own state constitutions did not exactly prove the effort for freedom except for a very select few. More like Animal Farm kind of freedom in those states.

                • clickpenguin_460

                  Member
                  August 6, 2020 at 12:16 pm

                  I’m just providing you with the accepted interpretation of the 2nd amendment.  I’m not supporting any sort of government overthrow.  I view guns as more useful for personal protection and property protection than some means to overthrow the government personally.

                  • kayla.meyer_144

                    Member
                    August 6, 2020 at 3:03 pm

                    That accepted interpretation is but an extremely small & reactionary minority. Dont mean to sound redundant but it is a fraction of a minority who believes that BS rationalization. Nowhere in the Federalist Papers or anywhere else will you find the 2nd Amendment makes violent opposition to the government somehow legal. Its laughable on its face & deeper. The Founders assumed voters would keep the system democratic by voting, not by guns.

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          August 6, 2020 at 10:28 am

          Quote from Frumious

          How many members actually know or care about LaPeirre’s and company’s corruption and embezzlement of funds? All most people know is that the NRA will save their guns from confiscation.

          A very successful propaganda campaign.

          probably right on.  would people donate if they knew they buying Wayne his expensive suits and private jets.

          • ruszja

            Member
            August 24, 2020 at 2:41 pm

            Quote from DICOM_Dan

            Quote from Frumious

            How many members actually know or care about LaPeirre’s and company’s corruption and embezzlement of funds? All most people know is that the NRA will save their guns from confiscation.

            A very successful propaganda campaign.

            probably right on.  would people donate if they knew they buying Wayne his expensive suits and private jets.

             
            People pay their ACR dues, right ?

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              August 24, 2020 at 4:04 pm

              The NRA isnt an accrediting agency. I guess it serves to provide validation of your gun enthusiasm but really people were just throwing $ away.

              • ruszja

                Member
                August 25, 2020 at 3:41 am

                Quote from DICOM_Dan

                The NRA isnt an accrediting agency. I guess it serves to provide validation of your gun enthusiasm but really people were just throwing $ away.

                The point is that there is some degree of self dealing in every large non-profit.
                No love lost for Mr LaPierre and the cabal around him, relative to rhe budget of the organization, the alleged self dealing is small potatoes.

                If you believe the leftist propaganda, the NRA with all its gun industry money has a firm grip on congress and is responsible for the complete absence of any gun legislation in this country. So which is it ?

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  August 25, 2020 at 5:23 am

                  Is your last sentence only propaganda, fw?
                   
                  I mean there has been gun legislation in different states and the Federal government before without the end of American civilization, no? “The Government” has not confiscated guns in all the decades of existing gun regulations, somehow we all still enjoy our 2nd Amendment rights in spite of past regulations and all the alarmist screaming rhetoric of Hitler confiscating guns. 

                  • ruszja

                    Member
                    August 25, 2020 at 2:27 pm

                    Quote from Frumious

                    Is your last sentence only propaganda, fw?

                    I mean there has been gun legislation in different states and the Federal government before without the end of American civilization, no? “The Government” has not confiscated guns in all the decades of existing gun regulations, somehow we all still enjoy our 2nd Amendment rights in spite of past regulations and all the alarmist screaming rhetoric of Hitler confiscating guns. 

                     
                    I guess I’ll have to explain it to you:
                     
                    either the NRA is
                    – this powerless organization that is being robbed blind by a buffonish leadership clique and the members dont get any return for their 50 bucks.
                    or
                    – they are this highly organized powerful lobbying organization that controls capitol hill in which case the few cents out of the $50 or $75 membership fees spent on Mr Lapierres antics are a small price to pay for the membership.
                     
                    You can’t have both be true at the same time.
                     
                     
                     
                     

                • kaldridgewv2211

                  Member
                  August 25, 2020 at 5:39 am

                  Quote from fw

                  Quote from DICOM_Dan

                  The NRA isnt an accrediting agency. I guess it serves to provide validation of your gun enthusiasm but really people were just throwing $ away.

                  The point is that there is some degree of self dealing in every large non-profit.
                  No love lost for Mr LaPierre and the cabal around him, relative to rhe budget of the organization, the alleged self dealing is small potatoes.

                  If you believe the leftist propaganda, the NRA with all its gun industry money has a firm grip on congress and is responsible for the complete absence of any gun legislation in this country. So which is it ?

                  the NRA absolutely has a grip on some people in congress.  Also they were way beyond self dealing.  It was basically financing a life of the finest luxury.

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    August 25, 2020 at 10:19 am

                    NY AG Letitia James has filed suit to block Postal Service changes by the Trump administration.

  • clickpenguin_460

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    I said I agreed with you.  I’m not sure what more you want.  I don’t support violently overthrowing the government.  I do support being able to protect myself, my family, and my property.

    • katiemckee84_223

      Member
      August 6, 2020 at 4:44 pm

      The interesting thing is that on some level, all people support violent overthrow of the government, it just depends on [i][b]when[/b][/i]. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have a holiday called Independence Day.
       
      God knows the Three Amigos do, just in different ways. In their warped world the President is somehow doing something awful, yet they can’t even tell us what he’s done that is even against the law.

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 24, 2020 at 10:48 am

      [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-ag-trump-organization-lawsuit/2020/08/24/882c03a8-e60e-11ea-bc79-834454439a44_story.html]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-ag-trump-organization-lawsuit/2020/08/24/882c03a8-e60e-11ea-bc79-834454439a44_story.html

      [/link]
      [h1][b]New York attorney general sues Trump Organization, revealing state investigation into the companys financial dealings[/b][/h1]

      The New York Attorney General is investigating President Trumps private business for a allegedly misleading lenders by inflating the value of its assets, the attorney generals office said Monday in a legal filing.
      In the filing, signed by a deputy to Attorney General Letitia James, the attorney generals office said it is investigating Trumps use of Statements of Financial Condition documents Trump sent to lenders, summarizing his assets and debts.
      The filing asks a New York state judge to compel the Trump Organization to provide information it has been withholding from investigators including a subpoena seeking an interview with the presidents son Eric.
      The attorney generals office said began investigating after Trumps former lawyer and fixer, [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-inflated-his-total-assets-when-it-served-his-purposes-cohen-alleges-in-his-hearing-citing-financial-documents/2019/02/27/4c41d4e2-3ab3-11e9-a2cd-307b06d0257b_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_6]Michael Cohen, told Congress[/link] in February 2019 that Trump had used these statements to inflate his net worth to lenders.
      The filing said that Eric Trump had been scheduled to be interviewed in the investigation in late July, but abruptly canceled that interview. The filing says that Eric Trump is now refusing to be interviewed, with Eric Trumps lawyers saying we cannot allow the requested interview to go forward pursuant to those rights afforded to every individual under the Constitution.
      [/QUOTE]
       

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    August 25, 2020 at 3:52 pm

    Yes, both can be true. They are not mutually exclusive.
     
    & I never would dismiss leadership as buffoonish except for whether they actually believe their paranoid projections or just use promoting paranoia about losing our 2nd Amendment rights to gain fortune & power, which they have very successfully done. Because in what reality could anyone lose the 2nd Amendment?
     
    In no sane reality. 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 17, 2020 at 2:15 pm

    [link=https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/516942-eric-trump-says-he-will-comply-with-a-new-york-ags-subpoena-only]Eric Trump won’t comply with New York AG’s subpoena until after Election Day[/link]

    • btomba_77

      Member
      September 23, 2020 at 10:52 am

      New York Attorney General Opposes Eric Trumps Delay[/h1]  
      A lawyer for the New York attorney generals office argued Wednesday that President Trumps middle son, Eric Trump, has no right to delay a subpoena for his testimony as part of an ongoing investigation until after the presidential election in November, [link=https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/23/trump-subpoena-court-arguments-on-new-york-investigation-.html]CNBC[/link] reports.
       
      They don’t delay subpoena compliance over matters of “personal convenience.”

       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        September 23, 2020 at 12:39 pm

        [link=https://www.axios.com/eric-trump-deposition-new-york-aa6e0b02-5a15-4110-9ac9-1867433ea032.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100]https://www.axios.com/eri…c&utm_content=1100[/link]

        [h1]Judge orders Eric Trump to testify in New York probe before election[/h1] A state judge on Wednesday said that he found Eric Trump’s argument “unpersuasive.”
        Eric Trump must testify before Oct. 7, per the judge’s order, which added that probe and court are bound by the timelines of the national election.
         

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          September 23, 2020 at 8:11 pm

          The Bubba Gump of Trumps should be able to handle himself. Lol

          • btomba_77

            Member
            November 3, 2020 at 4:17 am

            President Trump’s closing argument …. He says he is “perhaps the most innocent man anywhere in the history of the United States.”

            • ruszja

              Member
              November 3, 2020 at 6:15 am

              Quote from dergon

              President Trump’s closing argument …. He says he is “perhaps the most innocent man anywhere in the history of the United States.”

               
              Elementary school children call it ‘opposite world’: Covid is ‘turning a corner’, Trump is the ‘least racist’, Trump is the ‘mostest innocent’ and so on.

              • btomba_77

                Member
                November 13, 2020 at 3:15 pm

                [b]Trump Will Soon Face Greater Risk of Prosecution[/b][/h1]  
                 
                 
                President Trump lost more than an election last week. When he leaves the White House in January, he will also lose the constitutional protection from prosecution afforded to a sitting president, the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/nyregion/trump-taxes.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage]New York Times[/link] reports.
                 
                After Jan. 20, Mr. Trump, who has refused to concede and is fighting to hold onto his office, will be more vulnerable than ever to a pending grand jury investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into the presidents family business and its practices, as well as his taxes.

                 

                • kaldridgewv2211

                  Member
                  November 14, 2020 at 10:07 am

                  Be a good laugh if Biden has the IRS get his taxes over to the people seeking them.

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    November 17, 2020 at 5:23 am

                    Quote from DICOM_Dan

                    Be a good laugh if Biden has the IRS get his taxes over to the people seeking them.

                    It is almost certain that the IRS of a Biden administration will comply the requests from investigative bodies and will stop fighting release in court.

        • btomba_77

          Member
          September 23, 2021 at 12:51 pm

          [link=https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/573261-eric-trump-lawyer-in-new-york-attorney-generals-fraud-case-quits]https://thehill.com/regul…erals-fraud-case-quits[/link]

          [b]Eric Trump’s Lawyer Quits

          [/b]

          A lawyer for [link=https://thehill.com/people/eric-trump]Eric Trump[/link] in New York Attorney General Letitia Jamess (D) fraud investigation into the Trump Organization has withdrawn from representing the former president’s son in the case, court records reveal.
           
          In a court document [link=https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=pD0lEKN5Cd7bYETQhZRNsQ==&system=prod]dated last Tuesday[/link], attorney Marc Mukasey withdrew his appearance as counsel for Trump. Trump will continue to be represented by attorney Alan Futerfas.

          Mukasey, once a federal prosecutor and law partner of [link=https://thehill.com/people/rudy-giuliani]Rudy Giuliani[/link], has represented Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher, who was found not guilty of murder in the death of a 17-year-old ISIS captive. Mukasey was hired by Rep. [link=https://thehill.com/people/matthew-matt-gaetz]Matt Gaetz[/link] (R-Fla.) [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/house/547399-gaetz-hires-legal-counsel-amid-doj-probe]in April[/link] amid a Justice Department probe into allegations of having an inappropriate relationship with a minor.

          [/QUOTE]
           

  • btomba_77

    Member
    November 17, 2020 at 5:22 am

    [h1][b]Biden Wary of Federal Trump-Focused Investigations[/b][/h1]  
    President-elect Joe Biden has privately told advisers that he doesnt want his presidency to be consumed by investigations of his predecessor, despite pressure from some Democrats who want inquiries into President Trump, his policies and members of his administration, [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/president-elect-biden-wary-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say-n1247959]NBC News[/link] reports.
     
    Biden has raised concerns that investigations would further divide a country he is trying to unite and risk making every day of his presidency about Trump.
    They said he has specifically told advisers that he is wary of federal tax investigations of Trump or of challenging any orders Trump may issue granting immunity to members of his staff before he leaves office.

    ____

    I know there are a lot of liberals that want some retribution on Trump.  But I tend to agree with Joe here.   Let the New York AG take the lead on Trump and try to leave the DOJ out of it.
     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      November 17, 2020 at 8:37 am

      Quote from dergon

      [h1][b]Biden Wary of Federal Trump-Focused Investigations[/b][/h1]  
      President-elect Joe Biden has privately told advisers that he doesnt want his presidency to be consumed by investigations of his predecessor, despite pressure from some Democrats who want inquiries into President Trump, his policies and members of his administration, [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/president-elect-biden-wary-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say-n1247959]NBC News[/link] reports.

      Biden has raised concerns that investigations would further divide a country he is trying to unite and risk making every day of his presidency about Trump.
      They said he has specifically told advisers that he is wary of federal tax investigations of Trump or of challenging any orders Trump may issue granting immunity to members of his staff before he leaves office.

      ____

      I know there are a lot of liberals that want some retribution on Trump.  But I tend to agree with Joe here.   Let the New York AG take the lead on Trump and try to leave the DOJ out of it.

      It’s good that he’s going that way.  He shouldn’t appear to be at all like Trump.  No more lock up chants.  Let the states feast.

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