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LA area private practices
Anybody have info on working for LA area private practices? Specifically interested in hearing about Tower Imaging and the group covering Torrance Memorial. Interested in the area but have anecdotally heard red flags about LA practices in general. Don’t want to waste my time investigating if it’s not worth it. Tx.
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Who wants to pay like 11% in income tax and live in a small dwelling surrounded by open drug scenes. Dont even bother. LA is liberal dumpster fire.
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Quote from sartoriusBIG
Who wants to pay like 11% in income tax and live in a small dwelling surrounded by open drug scenes. Dont even bother. LA is liberal dumpster fire.
A triggered conservative snowflake… never seen that one before.
Show us on the doll where the Democrat touched you.-
An oddball triggered lib comment that is kinda creepy. Never seen that one before.
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It’s weird Sartorius. If you really hate CA, fine. Maybe keep it to yourself? It’s over the top to come at people like this. Immature.
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Still hoping for a helpful response. Somebody must know something about these groups.
Basically wondering if these are places where you never actually make partner or if they just hire and fire you right before youre due to make partner.
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Quote from zeak
Anybody have info on working for LA area private practices? Specifically interested in hearing about Tower Imaging and the group covering Torrance Memorial. Interested in the area but have anecdotally heard red flags about LA practices in general. Don’t want to waste my time investigating if it’s not worth it. Tx.
I know nothing about the LA PP rad market but would not be surprised if they are near impossible to actually become a real partner simply based on the location. My point of reference is NYC where there are no PP that offer partnership. To be honest not even sure there are any PPs in NYC….Are any of the above LA groups recruiting? If so, are they offering partnership? If they are, then apply and interview. Check out the associate to partner ratio and speak with the newer partners if they are any…At the end of the day you may be better moving further out from LA or living in LA and doing day-time tele for a PP out of state-
RP hasn’t made much headway in LA. Just Renaissance.
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A triggered conservative snowflake… never seen that one before.
Show us on the doll where the Democrat touched you.As far as put downs, kudos.
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I saw an ad for a ‘private group’ in LA region today for 400k employed salary and 9 weeks vaca. including call. I laughed out loud.
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I saw an ad for a ‘private group’ in LA region today for 400k employed salary and 9 weeks vaca. including call. I laughed out loud.
If the work is reasonable sounds like a great gig.
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My information is a couple of years old, but if you’re willing to work in Orange County, there are several private practices still operating there. I remember they were recruiting heavily two years ago, probably still are. You can reverse commute if you want to live in LA county, or just live in Newport/Huntington/Laguna beach.
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I do like Laguna. Do you remember the names of those practices? I’ve seen some practices in OC but they seem to be RadNet affiliated.
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I do like Laguna. Do you remember the names of those practices? I’ve seen some practices in OC but they seem to be RadNet affiliated.
Unfortunately no. I searched my old business cards, I must have discarded them when I moved. But I do remember one of them was Crown Valley imaging.
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Thanks.
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I love CA. It is awesome but the only people I feel that can afford to life there and have a nice lifestyle are the mega-rich. Or homeless lol. I agree that you may be able to live in CA and work remote for a group outside of CA. Years ago, the Laguna group had a churn and burn reputation but they may have changed.
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Which laguna group? Crown Valley Imaging?
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If it was years ago could have been the Coast Radiology group. Total churn. Heard they imploded as they rightly should have.
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Quote from ar123
I saw an ad for a ‘private group’ in LA region today for 400k employed salary and 9 weeks vaca. including call. I laughed out loud.
If the work is reasonable sounds like a great gig.
I think it was like 10 or 12 k rvu requirement, nothing too busy. But unless you know LA far better than I do – After taxes, that paycheck isn’t that great for the cost of living. 400k will go a lot further in the midwest or texas. It would be a very ‘middle’ class lifestyle not a doctors lifestyle. And hey, that’s perfect for some people in exchange to live in cali. Not for me though.-
Except in Minnesota. They are becoming the California of the Midwest. Except nobody really wants to live there.
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For that rate you can live abroad and do prelims.
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Except in Minnesota. They are becoming the California of the Midwest. Except nobody really wants to live there.
I live in the midwest and have literally never heard that, lol.
And by ‘california of the midwest’ – does that mean a ton of homeless people, crazy taxes and cost of living….and ALSO unlike california, the worst possible weather?
haha
minnesota is nice enough. But if you’re in the midwest – north parts of chicago and chicago burbs, followed by some nice areas outside indianapolis and columbus…as well as milwaukee – those are the spots.-
Also if you have kids, CA is even more expensive. Kids in general are $$$$. The good CA schools are $!.
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Orange County at least has lots of great public schools. There is a reason why people pay the real estate premium to live in Irvine.
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There are definitely real decent private practices in SoCal. They traditionally had 3 year partnership tracks. Some of them have now gone to 1 year because of the market. The practice in laguna is definite **** and have seen multiple people churn through that and partnership is never offered at that one spot, but there are others close that are reasonable. Still probably going to be tight and should be wary for tiered partnerships or getting churned just due to competition. Can prob do just as well reading remote for someone than hoping for partnership. I live in CA and ya you dont feel rich here as a physician at all. Its a very middle-upper middle lifestyle depending on where you choose. Im from Ohio. If my wife could live there we would have a pretty extravagant set up, but then again weather sucks for 5 months. Also for the tax haters. My tax rate is only 2% higher here in CA than ohio. You must note that it is a PROGRESSIVE tax structure so effective taxes arent much. We also dont have local taxes in many areas for schools etc. Real estate taxes are low and set in. Its not much different. Def different from nevada or texas though.
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There are definitely real decent private practices in SoCal. They traditionally had 3 year partnership tracks. Some of them have now gone to 1 year because of the market. The practice in laguna is definite **** and have seen multiple people churn through that and partnership is never offered at that one spot, but there are others close that are reasonable. Still probably going to be tight and should be wary for tiered partnerships or getting churned just due to competition. Can prob do just as well reading remote for someone than hoping for partnership. I live in CA and ya you dont feel rich here as a physician at all. Its a very middle-upper middle lifestyle depending on where you choose. Im from Ohio. If my wife could live there we would have a pretty extravagant set up, but then again weather sucks for 5 months. Also for the tax haters. My tax rate is only 2% higher here in CA than ohio. You must note that it is a PROGRESSIVE tax structure so effective taxes arent much. We also dont have local taxes in many areas for schools etc. Real estate taxes are low and set in. Its not much different. Def different from nevada or texas though.
I debate often with my wife about living in california. We lived there before I was a resident, and we still visit LA often – and love it. We were in SF, where I would likely not want to ever live again.
Compared to the midwest – I guess the difference is, my friends that are rads in cali ( one in SD, one in LA area ) make around 500k. Great money most other parts of the country. They have kinda so-so houses, and are pretty house poor – also spend a lot of money on basic essentials. They live comfortable, but as mentioned above, kind of middle to upper middle class lifestyles.
In comparison – you can work in many very nice midwest or southern cities and make 6-700k. probably half the cost of living. Live a very upper class life. It’s all relative….but as someone on this forum said a few years ago – as a rad making 4-500k in socal, you can still drive a tesla and own a home. Not many people can do that. -
Why did you not like living in SF?
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Why did you not like living in SF?
Cannot speak for them, however I’ve visited SF a bunch of times while living the Sac area. I’m guessing its nothing personal against SF/CA, same complaints could be said about NYC-outrageous COL, high taxes, traffic, crime/homeless, subpar public schools, and lower incomes for physicians.
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Even if I could afford kids, I doubt Id send them to public school in SoCal. The cost of living in Irvine is already sky high, then you have to deal with your kids keeping up with the Joneses at every corner, and all the added stress on top of that. No thanks. Just not for me-may work for others though.
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In my experience, many people who are from CA or have lived in CA often end up returning. There’s just no other place like it in the US, regardless of COL.
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After growing up in LA and having lived in other parts of the country, I’ve noticed that Californians do not really care how others live or what they do with their money, but everyone else is absolutely obsessed about how Californians live and what they do with their money.
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I dont really agree with that. I think most people could care less. Most people are more obsessed with knowing where all that outrageous CA tax money is actually going and if its being effectively utilized.
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I dont really agree with that. I think most people could care less. Most people are more obsessed with knowing where all that outrageous CA tax money is actually going and if its being effectively utilized.
It’s easy to see on these forums alone that it’s true – every single post regarding California has unsolicited comments from non-residents about how terrible it is to live there, the homeless situation/drugs/taxes/etc.
You never see the reverse – no one comments about how terrible it is to live in other states whenever they come up. It’s a one-sided obsession.
Funny how these denigrators never mention what state they’re living in – almost as if they’re afraid of reverse blowback on hearing from non-residents telling them what it’s like to live in their own state! -
No. I think CA is a great place to live apart from the expense.
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I’m curious Picasso, you said that if you lived in socal you wouldn’t send your kids to public school because then they’d be keeping up with the joneses? I can’t imagine private school would be better.
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No, what I meant was I wouldnt send them to public school in SoCal. Maybe in Irvine. Probably not anywhere else in the OC but there.
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My friend pulled her kids out of CDM because of bullying and drugs.
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Diamond Ranch HS is a nice looking school.
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I dont really agree with that. I think most people could care less. Most people are more obsessed with knowing where all that outrageous CA tax money is actually going and if its being effectively utilized.
It’s easy to see on these forums alone that it’s true – every single post regarding California has unsolicited comments from non-residents about how terrible it is to live there, the homeless situation/drugs/taxes/etc.
You never see the reverse – no one comments about how terrible it is to live in other states whenever they come up. It’s a one-sided obsession.
Funny how these denigrators never mention what state they’re living in – almost as if they’re afraid of reverse blowback on hearing from non-residents telling them what it’s like to live in their own state!
I’ve lived in a handful of states, including CA. Each state has its pro’s/con’s. I enjoyed living in CA and regret moving but hindsight in 20/20. I also grew up in the burbs of NYC so my idea of what was normal/typical in terms of COL/political views etc makes living in other parts of the country much easier. -
SoCal: If you are comparing yourself to how much other radiologists are making or how they are living, then settling down in southern california or Bay Area as a radiologist can be tough. Yes, upper middle class living is a good way to describe it.
On the other hand, that could still mean single income, wife homemaker, multiple kids, >4000 sq foot house with small backyard and swimming pool in south Orange County new construction, German luxury car but not exotic Italian car, 8-10 weeks vacation, and much lower savings rate than if you were in the Midwest, and could be loving it IF you dont care what you could be making and having in the Midwest. (Ranch mansion with acres and indoor pool, early retirement?) If you dont need what urban coastal living offers – the ethnic diversity, the weather , the variety and quality of restaurants, sports year round (as in playing, not watching), etc – there isnt any reason to pay the huge price of living in CA. But if you do enjoy it – it is worth it for many, and you do make enough to be very comfortable. The stuff about homeless people and druggies and urban hellhole Gotham city- its limited to a few places in the state, I only see that ugly side of things once in 8 years when I venture to certain parts of downtown SF for kicks and for Indian food. You could live in California including Bay Area for a lifetime and never see that stuff if you choose not to.
Comparison is the thief of joy. You make enough in CA to be comfortable and enjoy CA if you dont compare.
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