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Posted by noriel on October 29, 2019 at 1:14 pmI saw this add on the ACR website from an AI starup. I called them up to see what’s all about. They make take an assessment test that’s got about 200 films. I was wondering how many ppl took it and actually passed. It smells like a scam?.
[link=https://jobs.acr.org/job/earn-attractive-compensation-and-equity-in-a-fast-growing-startup-for-reading-plain-films-on-a-flexible-schedule-determined-by-you-from-your-home/48979763/]https://jobs.acr.org/job/earn-attractive-compensation-and-equity-in-a-fast-growing-startup-for-reading-plain-films-on-a-flexible-schedule-determined-by-you-from-your-home/48979763/[/link]radiologistkahraman_799 replied 1 year, 5 months ago 13 Members · 21 Replies -
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What do they pay the applicant to take this 200 study assessment test?
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Nothing…Thats why it suspicious to me. I wonder if they dont use the test as usable data.
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Deleted UserOctober 29, 2019 at 2:35 pmHa, but they have venture capital funding from Google, etc. Says so in the ACR ad. So you’re training your replacement, I see
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Deleted UserOctober 29, 2019 at 3:16 pmThe rates are extremely low, I’m talking CENTS to read each image. For 200 x-ray images with full read for each individual image, they would pay about $30. Don’t waste your time.
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This is “[link=https://www.mturk.com/]Mechanical Turk[/link]” for radiology, which is an attempt to get crowd sourced, cheap labor. I hope no one signs up. Your expertise is worth way more than $0.09 per label. This (crowd-sourced labeling) will be the pathway to creating the “curated” datasets that are needed to train AI, and I do think it will happen (can’t stop progress), but please let’s not sell to the lowest bidder! These companies should expect to have to pay A LOT to train their precious AI models to “be as good as a radiologist.”
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Deleted UserOctober 29, 2019 at 7:51 pm(takes job, labels everything “a butt”)
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2019 at 8:47 amYou can always F with them and call cancer on every image
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Each label has a differential of cancer infection congenital metabolic traumatic
Label is of normal calcaneal spur for an example.
Hmmmm.
I could get my 8 year old to do this for me and just say put an arrow where ever you want son and copy and paste what I said in that box. I want 100 labels on each image.
This could be a creative punishment.
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2019 at 10:34 amMaybe the 8 yr old would do it for 30$
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IBM is paying residents about 3500 dollars to read 300 x rays.
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2019 at 12:50 pmThey should do it and F them over
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2019 at 5:36 pmI cant imagine anyone doing it for them at those rates. Very poorly planned if you asked me and thats a lot of money poured in by venture capitalists which will likely just go down the drain.
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Quote from ar123
IBM is paying residents about 3500 dollars to read 300 x rays.
Uhhh. How do I get in on this? Do you have a link?
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Quote from ar123
IBM is paying residents about 3500 dollars to read 300 x rays.
Uhhh. How do I get in on this? Do you have a link?
It’s the IBM medical sieve project. I forget the lead guys name but his contact info is on the site.
They are currently only offering the plain films to ‘ junior residents’ – I did some work for the last year but they don’t want ‘advanced’ residents at this time.
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I’m more advanced now so that wouldn’t work I guess. Too bad
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I saw this add on the ACR website from an AI starup. I called them up to see what’s all about. They make take an assessment test that’s got about 200 films. I was wondering how many ppl took it and actually passed. It smells like a scam?.
[link=https://jobs.acr.org/job/earn-attractive-compensation-and-equity-in-a-fast-growing-startup-for-reading-plain-films-on-a-flexible-schedule-determined-by-you-from-your-home/48979763/]https://jobs.acr.org/job/earn-attractive-compensation-and-equity-in-a-fast-growing-startup-for-reading-plain-films-on-a-flexible-schedule-determined-by-you-from-your-home/48979763/[/link]-
They’re advertising again. Going to investigate and see if anything has changed from before. Is there anybody here who has more recent info or, better yet, works for them?
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Theyre gonna have to pay me $4 per xray for that. Otherwise go fark yourself google!
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I think they have mostly abandoned the AI training schtick and are full fledged imaging centers now
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