[Unknown Member]

Are you making liberal snowflakes Angry?

[kayla.meyer_144]

DAMN! I didn’t know he was elected to some political office? I don’t remember voting for him! AND NOW I CAN’T!! BOO HOO!
 
I’M MELTING!

[kayla.meyer_144]

Jan never liked Takei because he’s not “European looking” so what difference does it make?
 
Seriously, what’s the point Jan? You are drawing a comparison to whom? The story against Moore has several people claiming he “dated” underage girls, corroborated by others who are not known for the Democratic history. Weinstein has had many people tell identical type stories about him. Several women have complained about Trump telling similar stories & he has bragged about the same.
 
One person complains about Takei & his story isn’t exactly substantial with detail.
 
So what’s your point other than trolling?
 
 

[Unknown Member]

Frumious, there is no EVIDENCE that the allegations against Moore are true (just as, incidentally there is no evidence that those against Takei are true). That doesn’t stop you Leftists from getting up in a tizzy about it in the other thread.

You Leftists are cowards, liars, and hypocrites. The final blow is that you also tend to be intellectual lightweights.

[Unknown Member]

You and evangelicals like your Have no credibility

You lost your souls

Moore is a perve

34 yr old trying to shag a14 yr old is a fng creep

And evangelicals like you are going to burn for this stuff

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from Jan the Third

Frumious, there is no EVIDENCE that the allegations against Moore are true (just as, incidentally there is no evidence that those against Takei are true). That doesn’t stop you Leftists from getting up in a tizzy about it in the other thread.

You Leftists are cowards, liars, and hypocrites. The final blow is that you also tend to be intellectual lightweights.

He hasn’t had a trial. His answers are, at best, disingenuous and self-serving. And as I said, him relying on someone defending him by arguing the Mary was 13 – well, he just might as well plead guilty. Plus the paper interviewed 20 people I believe, corroborating the stories.
 
you are arguing all of those women are lying in some sort of conspiracy? 
 
I have a couple of bridges I can sell you while you are so credulous.

[Unknown Member]

1. There is more evidence that he is a perve as opposed to not a perve

2. Where in the Bible does it state Mary’s age

[ruszja]

I wonder how many other gay icons are going to stumble over the Weinstein effect

[Unknown Member]

I don’t know do you think any of them will run for office as republicans

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

I don’t know do you think any of them will run for office as republicans

So if Kevin Spacey molests a teenager it’s a-ok because he only plays a bisexual corrupt democrat from South Carolina on TV ?

[Unknown Member]

What the F are you talking about

Didn’t he pretty much fired from a few movies have his series cancelled and career basically over

Again wtf are you talking about

[Unknown Member]

I guess if spacey was a red state republican…..he should get elected to public office and viewed as best ng persecuted by the evil snowflakes liberal media

But if he is a Republican we probably shouldnt jump to conclusions about something that happened 20 years ago

Yeah that an arguable point I guess where you come from

[Unknown Member]

Or wait….. maybe I missed the legions of snowflake liberals defending spacey and comparing him to Alexander the Great because 3000 yrs ago he used to shag underage boys as well

[kayla.meyer_144]

The Republican, let me emphasize that again, THE REPUBLICAN who pointed out that Mary was probably 12 or 13 is defending Moore by saying he thinks Moore did do the things Moore is accused of.

So if this Republican thinks Moore is guilty as charged, whats the argument???

[kathleen.hibler]

Gotta love whataboutism. Dont worry about the child rapist soon to be senatorLOOK OVER THERE! A B LIST ACTOR WHO I NEVER HEARD OF IS INVOLVED IN A SCANDAL! AND HES A DEMOCRAT!!

[100574]

A former prosecutor who once worked alongside embattled Alabama GOP Senate candidate [link=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-gop-senate-candidate-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-with-14-year-old-girl-when-he-was-32/][color=”#0066cc”]Roy Moore[/color][/link] in the early 1980s told CNN it was “common knowledge” at the time that Moore dated high school girls.
“It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird,” former deputy district attorney Teresa Jones told CNN in comments aired Saturday. “We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall … but you really wouldn’t say anything to someone like that.”
CBS News has reached out to Jones for comment.
Jones, now a partner at the Syprett, Meshad, Resnick, Lieb, Dumbaugh, Jones, Krotec & Westheimer, P.A. law firm based in Sarasota, Florida, served as deputy district attorney for Etowah County, Alabama from 1982 to 1985, according to her firm’s website. Moore worked as a deputy district attorney in that office from 1977 to 1982. Before joining the DA’s office, Jones was the assistant city attorney for the city of Gadsden, Alabama, the county seat of Etowah County.[b] [/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
CBS news
 

[ruszja]

Hollyweird. Those are the folks who rather than shunning Roman Polanski for raping a 13 year old keep giving him Oscars.

[100574]

is Roman Polanski on the ballot in Alabama????????????????????

Quote from fw

Hollyweird. Those are the folks who rather than shunning Roman Polanski for raping a 13 year old keep giving him Oscars.

[ruszja]

Quote from sentinel lymph node

is Roman Polanski on the ballot in Alabama????????????????????

Is Roy Moore in StarWars ?

Alabama is in the other thread. Here we talk about the depraved headcases that run Hollywood and the entertainment industry at large.

[mario.mtz30_447]

I have to respect CK Louis in a way for just saying, yeah it’s all true I did it.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from AngryBirds

Gotta love whataboutism. Dont worry about the child rapist soon to be senatorLOOK OVER THERE! A B LIST ACTOR WHO I NEVER HEARD OF IS INVOLVED IN A SCANDAL! AND HES A DEMOCRAT!!

Right-wingers always have tunnel vision, blinders, a sense of persecution and incessantly arguing that “The Left,” meaning anyone not an extremist right-wing reactionary including politically centrist people, are persecuting only right-wing heroes while ignoring “left-wing” perpetrators. This goes back decades & is a feint to induce a change of subject.
 
If people like Jan actually believe the claim, it’s only because of their own ignorance as there is ample evidence of “left-wing” media and people pointing out unacceptable behavior of non-right-wingnuts, including “left-wing heroes.” Just open the Washington Post and New York Times and Atlantic and New Yorker, etc, etc, etc anytime.
 
The non-right-wingnuts (so-called left-wing media) are not exactly known for circling the wagons protecting those allegedly on the left. Exhibit #1 is Weinstein himself who fw pointed out is a liberal/Democratic problem. Really? So was Weinstein finally “outed” by Breitbart or Faux? No, it was the New Yorker’s articles.
 
So the argument is just smelly recycled BS made by those who can’t defend their own arguments.
 
 
 

[Unknown Member]

The other hypocritical claim is that why is left just outraged at Roy Moore and bill o’Reilley types on the right

Well all these people that have been outed on the so called left the Weinsteins the spacey’s etc. are essentially done and shunned

Yeah I think everyone knows creeps exist in each side but the left at least does something about it

[Unknown Member]

But ya know maybe if you only watch FOX news that is all you hear

[Unknown Member]

Or using the famous words of Righteou Rick Santorum

….. will evangelicals next support a candidate who enjoys beastiality.

[Unknown Member]

Quote from Frumious

Quote from AngryBirds

Gotta love whataboutism. Dont worry about the child rapist soon to be senatorLOOK OVER THERE! A B LIST ACTOR WHO I NEVER HEARD OF IS INVOLVED IN A SCANDAL! AND HES A DEMOCRAT!!

Right-wingers always have tunnel vision, blinders, a sense of persecution and incessantly arguing that “The Left,” meaning anyone not an extremist right-wing reactionary including politically centrist people, are persecuting only right-wing heroes while ignoring “left-wing” perpetrators. This goes back decades & is a feint to induce a change of subject.

If people like Jan actually believe the claim, it’s only because of their own ignorance as there is ample evidence of “left-wing” media and people pointing out unacceptable behavior of non-right-wingnuts, including “left-wing heroes.” Just open the Washington Post and New York Times and Atlantic and New Yorker, etc, etc, etc anytime.

The non-right-wingnuts (so-called left-wing media) are not exactly known for circling the wagons protecting those allegedly on the left. Exhibit #1 is Weinstein himself who fw pointed out is a liberal/Democratic problem. Really? So was Weinstein finally “outed” by Breitbart or Faux? No, it was the New Yorker’s articles.

So the argument is just smelly recycled BS made by those who can’t defend their own arguments.

 
Absolute horse manure, like virtually everything else you write. I have no expectation of changing any subject; as the rest of the political threads demonstrate, you Leftists are quite capable of blabbering for pages and pages on the basis of… [i]nothing[/i]. See: anything and everything to do with Russia. The media waves a little red cape, and you Leftists – snarling and slavering like rabid dogs – chase the issue for weeks on end, completely oblivious to how unhinged to look to grounded spectators. In case you’ve ever wondered why the political forum is an uncontested echo-chamber of Leftism, let me tell you why: it’s because your and your compatriots’ views are so absurd (and, incidentally, almost totally incoherently expressed) that there’s more value to be gained from amusing ourselves watching you from the stands than there is from wading into the arena and bringing the beasts to their senses. And this is why the Left is so memeable. “Trump is a Nazi”, transgender bathrooms, and intolerance for the innocuous statement that “It’s ok to be White”? [b]YOU. ARE. A. JOKE.[/b]
 
Now, do mainstream media outlets ultimately cover evils perpetrated by Leftists? Yes, once they are forced to do so because of public awareness. But not to the same degree or with the same level of intrigue as would occur with the uncovering of an evil perpetrated by a “right-wing” individual. Media controllers and personalities are clever; they understand the power of subtlety, and are aware of the plausible deniability it affords.

[Unknown Member]

Are you a blood and soil type

[Unknown Member]

Dude Sounds much like cigar.

[Unknown Member]

It is somewhat disconcerting that people make this a right-wing and a left-wing ideology problem. The problem is that there are morally depraved people on both sides of the political aisle, and this should not be a blue vs Red issue. This is be a morality issue, should be viewed as much, and anyone guilty of sexual misconduct should be held accountable regardless of their political affiliation.

[Unknown Member]

I have a 19yr old daughter…. if a 34 yr old man try to put the moves on her I put a hammer to his forehead

Sorry convict me for it but it would happen

[tdetlie_105]

Quote from kpack123

I have a 19yr old daughter…. if a 34 yr old man try to put the moves on her I put a hammer to his forehead

Sorry convict me for it but it would happen

 
I get your point from a father’s perspective but 19 y/o is technically an adult and a 34 approaching her would not be illegal, no?  Your daughter as adult could simply reject that guy if she did not like him…Also there are plenty of normal relationships where there’s a big age gap. I’m about 11 years older than my wife (granted she was not 19 when I met her).

[Unknown Member]

if you choose to be offended by my statement that’s fine with me

It doesn’t affect my attitude outlook or decision making process one bit

[kayla.meyer_144]

It’s not about whether the age difference between my wife and I is 2 months, 2 years or 18 years. We are way past the age of adulthood. But 18 years difference DOES make a difference if one of the people is only 14.
 
 

[Unknown Member]

34 and 19 is Much different than 45 and 30

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

I have a 19yr old daughter…. if a 34 yr old man try to put the moves on her I put a hammer to his forehead

Sorry convict me for it but it would happen

 
Presumably you don’t live in 1970s Alabama.

[kaldridgewv2211]

Quote from fw

Quote from kpack123

I have a 19yr old daughter…. if a 34 yr old man try to put the moves on her I put a hammer to his forehead

Sorry convict me for it but it would happen

Presumably you don’t live in 1970s Alabama.

This is not normal.  not for the parents to allow, nor for the 34 year old to date a 14 year old.

[ruszja]

Quote from DICOM_Dan

This is not normal.  not for the parents to allow, nor for the 34 year old to date a 14 year old.

The events with the 14yo, if they happened, would have been a crime under AL law.
Him dating a couple of 17 to 19 year olds was neither illegal nor all that unusual.

[kayla.meyer_144]

The answer JD is yes, I would be upset. Even a 19-year-old isnt mature enough to make decisions compared to 34-year-old. There is no competition.

[tdetlie_105]

@Kpack

I take no offense, just interesting to see peoples views on this topic (not talking about minors). Would you be just as upset if a 34 y/o woman was hitting on your 19 y/o son? Or a 34 gay woman hitting on your 19 y/o daughter?

[heenadevk1119_462]

Quote from kpack123

I have a 19yr old daughter…. if a 34 yr old man try to put the moves on her I put a hammer to his forehead

Sorry convict me for it but it would happen

 
What if she liked the guy? What if you liked him? You know you are the historical aberration here, there is no soundess to your reasoning.

[heenadevk1119_462]

The democrats have made it part and parcel to excuse behavior and take money from the most repugnant, vile and debased immoral sectors of entertainment and larger society. For them to ever talk about being appalled by anything of the sort is preposterous.
 
It is biological, if you want to invoke evolution, it is absolutely scientific that a young woman would want an older man, and vice versa. Denying this shows you have zero idea about reality, of which biology is a main factor.

[Unknown Member]

I’m telling you figler

I swear to god I’d beat his arse

35 and 19 is fng sick

[Unknown Member]

But I wouldn’t have to worry

She is much to smart and has too much respect for herself

[19462008]

In the words of George Takei….. OHHHH Myyyy. Now with Franken’s accusations for in appropriate behavior coming out as an another Male to Female sexual misconduct issue in our politics. I have to ask us guys in general… What the F*** going on Men? No respect for Women anymore? Are we acting stupid because the increased power of Women in our society? I just don’t get us Men with power and how we do whatever we want.

[Unknown Member]

Power issue

Pure and simple except when dealing with minors…..thats a perversion

[100574]

oh the what aboutism of the Christian hypocrite evangelicals  but religion was used to justify slavery so

[heenadevk1119_462]

Quote from kpack123

Power issue

Pure and simple except when dealing with minors…..thats a perversion

 
you buy takei and all the pundits
 
it has nothing to do with power
 
it’s sex, get a clue, no matter what

[heenadevk1119_462]

Quote from kpack123

I’m telling you figler

I swear to god I’d beat his arse

35 and 19 is fng sick

 
you couldn’t beat any real man’s arse
 
40 and 19 happened for most of human history, this era is the aberration
 
do you know nothing of history, seriously>

[Unknown Member]

No

Guys like you just can’t get anyone their own age

Creepy F’s

[100574]

they are really just insecure unloved little people

Quote from kpack123

No

Guys like you just can’t get anyone their own age

Creepy F’s

[kayla.meyer_144]

All of these statements about being fathers of daughters. They reflect some belief that too many men are either immature or misogynistic. We definitely saw that with Trump’s “kitty-grabbing” behavior dismissed as “Boys will be boys.”
 
Women said that! About their husbands and male children! This is their view of men? Trump is typical of men’s behavior in their minds? This is how these mothers are raising their boys???
 
This is their attitude of men – the opposite of misogynistic is called what? Or do men in general deserve the description? Men need to work harder if the women see us this way. On the opposite side of the coin, Pence’s attitude and behavior is definitely no solution either because it uses religion to see women as dangerous and or compromising among other things. Where are the grownups these days?
 
As the father of a son – I don’t want him to act in the “boys will be boys” way. It might be excusable in high school but not as an adult.
 
As the father of a daughter, I don’t want her to see men as dangerous predators. I don’t want to see her as a victim of immature or dangerous men. I wouldn’t want her to see her brother as a predator or immature idiot (she does not.) Or his mother. It would mean their mother and father failed in teaching both of them to respect people.
 
A lot of work is ahead in the attitudes of the sexes towards each other.
 
 

[heenadevk1119_462]

If you want equality, it’s a two way street. None of this kid gloves stuff. If there is a double standard, we better be going back to the good ol’ days. The reason all of this is a problem is because women are covered on all ends and men aren’t. That’s just the facts. The law, society and culture are absolutely imbalanced, it is obvious and verifiable at this point.

[Unknown Member]

You can’t get a decent woman

So you hate them

So obvious

[100574]

so has the GOP what about lead to Clarence Thomas

[heenadevk1119_462]

Quote from sentinel lymph node

so has the GOP what about lead to Clarence Thomas

 
Keep posting about stuff that “happened” 40 years ago and see how seriously people take you. 
 
I can’t believe you guys are THIS deluded. Even you guys.

[heenadevk1119_462]

Quote from kpack123

You can’t get a decent woman

So you hate them

So obvious

 
Haha, so rich. I don’t date American women, because they are low quality. Are there exceptions? Yes, that prove the rule. I can’t get them? LOL, because they are so low quality, that question is answered. Who’d want to [i][b]keep [/b][/i]them is the larger question.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from Dr. ****er

If you want equality, it’s a two way street. None of this kid gloves stuff. If there is a double standard, we better be going back to the good ol’ days. The reason all of this is a problem is because women are covered on all ends and men aren’t. That’s just the facts. The law, society and culture are absolutely imbalanced, it is obvious and verifiable at this point.

Ah the good old days, when women and minorities knew their place and they had no rights to interfere with the rights of white men.

[heenadevk1119_462]

Quote from kpack123

No

Guys like you just can’t get anyone their own age

Creepy F’s

 
Blame me for not wanting to look into the 1000 cck stare’s eyes …
 
Again, who would want any western woman his own age? She already gave it up to the numerous dudes who weren’t her husband, before you. It’s not only sick, it’s the biologic and proper choice for a sane family and society.

[Unknown Member]

Sounds like its working well for you

…… as you clutch your pilllow all alone

First step identifying the problem

1. Are you attractive to women? No, why not

A. Personality

B. Physical appearance

C. Overall attitude towards life

D. All of the above

I have a strong suspicion its D. For you and thats why you are so angry towards women

[Unknown Member]

Hahahaha

Figler is the poster boy for those spam emails we all get……ya know pay a couple grand and pick a Russian or an Asian bride out of a catalog

…… 2 weeks later a chubby and/or ugly non-English speaker comes to your door in an amazon box

Nice

[btomba_77]

stumbled across this thread randomly this morning — so figured i would close it out —
 
[link=https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/05/george-takei-sexual-assault-accuser-retracts-claim]https://www.vanityfair.co…accuser-retracts-claim[/link]
 
George Takei Forgives Sexual Assault Accuser After Accuser Retracts Claim[/h1]
I do not bear Mr. Brunton any ill will, and I wish him peace, the actor tweeted on Friday.

 

[100574]

   A former prosecutor who once worked alongside embattled Alabama GOP Senate candidate [link=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-gop-senate-candidate-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-with-14-year-old-girl-when-he-was-32/][color=”#0066cc”]Roy Moore[/color][/link] in the early 1980s told CNN it was “common knowledge” at the time that Moore dated high school girls.
“It was common knowledge that Roy dated high school girls, everyone we knew thought it was weird,” former deputy district attorney Teresa Jones told CNN in comments aired Saturday. “We wondered why someone his age would [size=”3″][b]hang out[/b][/size] at high school football games and the mall … but you really wouldn’t say anything to someone like that.”
CBS News has reached out to Jones for comment. [b] [/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
hanging out–that is pure predatory behavior imho
 

Quote from Jan the Third

Frumious, there is no EVIDENCE that the allegations against Moore are true (just as, incidentally there is no evidence that those against Takei are true). That doesn’t stop you Leftists from getting up in a tizzy about it in the other thread.

You Leftists are cowards, liars, and hypocrites. The final blow is that you also tend to be intellectual lightweights.

[cpmolnar]

Quote from Jan the Third

Frumious, there is no EVIDENCE that the allegations against Moore are true (just as, incidentally there is no evidence that those against Takei are true). That doesn’t stop you Leftists from getting up in a tizzy about it in the other thread.

You Leftists are cowards, liars, and hypocrites. The final blow is that you also tend to be intellectual lightweights.

 
Defender of the white supremacy movement and pedophiles, great portfolio Jan

[Unknown Member]

Frumi

Yes I’m pointing out not only the hypocrisy buy also the biblical misinterpretation/misrepresention

Basically where in the Bible does it say Mary’s age?????

Where does it say that Joseph and Mary had relations before the birth of Jesus????? ( in fact the Bible says the opposite)

Basically it doesn’t….. these evangelicals despite there holier than thou don’t even know what they are say

[kayla.meyer_144]

kpack,
 
The Bible doesn’t. Not anywhere, even in books not included that I know of. It’s an estimate only based on customs at the time which was for girls 12 or 13 to be married. That’s why I said “probably.” Regardless, it excuses no one for pedophilia in today’s world. The fact that it was put out there means the speaker believes Moore was guilty of sexual encounters with barely post-pubescent children. And Moore not denying the argument means he finds the detestable argument useful.
 
As for the Virgin Birth, that’s the Church’s belief in the Virgin Birth. Since I am an unbeliever, in my mind Mary had to have relations with someone human. Without changing the topic, the Gospels were written 60+ years after Jesus’s birth and 30+ after his death; there are other historical issues regarding the time of writing, like blaming the Jews for Jesus’s death. 

[Unknown Member]

Point being…. the evangelicals are creating new interpretations of the Bible to make excuses for Moore…..interpretations basically at odds with what is actually in the Bible

Basically evangelicals have lost their souls and their credibility

[savpruitt_28]

I was going to call this defense the “Takei maneuver” but sadly I learned it’s proper name is “whataboutism.” Apparently a favorite Russian propaganda technique. (queue up the sinister music)

[Unknown Member]

I do love my checks from the Kremlin.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Ah, you do it for free.

[btomba_77]

Quote from over-caffeinated

I was going to call this defense the “Takei maneuver” but sadly I learned it’s proper name is “whataboutism.” Apparently a favorite Russian propaganda technique. (queue up the sinister music)

It is classic “whataboutism”.
 
[url=https://www.npr.org/2017/03/17/520435073/trump-embraces-one-of-russias-favorite-propaganda-tactics-whataboutism]It is a mainstay of Trumpism.  [/url]

[Unknown Member]

Quote from dergon

Quote from over-caffeinated

I was going to call this defense the “Takei maneuver” but sadly I learned it’s proper name is “whataboutism.” Apparently a favorite Russian propaganda technique. (queue up the sinister music)

It is classic “whataboutism”.

[link=https://www.npr.org/2017/03/17/520435073/trump-embraces-one-of-russias-favorite-propaganda-tactics-whataboutism]It is a mainstay of Trumpism.  [/link]

Oh, please. Every element of every political spectrum has done it throughout history. Everyone has an interest in shifting discussions to favorable territory. You know… like how with every Muslim terrorist attack, the anti-White Left defecates from its diseased bowels a slew of articles about the evils of the White race. 
 
Call it a “mainstay of Trumpism”, if you like, but it’s certainly (also) a mainstay of Clintonism, Sandersism, Obamaism, and – generally – Leftism.

[savpruitt_28]

LOL did you just defend using whataboutism by using whataboutism? That’s like a 2-fer!

[Unknown Member]

I’m noting a universal political phenomenon. But the irony isn’t lost on me!

[savpruitt_28]

Well putting whataboutism aside I think we can all agree that while George Takei’s escapades might be good fodder for the news, and bad news for him, it’s pretty much irrelevant to the discussion of whether a potential child molester makes good protoplasm for US Senator? I think a big “hell no” should be a safe answer in any normal year? Really?! I mean, is this an actual discussion?! I wouldn’t want a child molester around my kids or over to dinner, or even in the same neighborhood as mine but *shruggs shoulders* this IS Alabama we’re talking about and winning the US senate is more important than having morals so….

[Unknown Member]

Quote from over-caffeinated

Well putting whataboutism aside I think we can all agree that while George Takei’s escapades might be good fodder for the news, and bad news for him, it’s pretty much irrelevant to the discussion of [i][u][b]whether a potential child molester makes good protoplasm for US Senator? I think a big “hell no” should be a safe answer in any normal year?[/b][/u][/i] Really?! I mean, is this an actual discussion?! I wouldn’t want a child molester around my kids or over to dinner, or even in the same neighborhood as mine but *shruggs shoulders* this IS Alabama we’re talking about and winning the US senate is more important than having morals so….

Is this a joke? Are you really dumb enough to to argue that a “potential” child molester is unqualified to be a Senator? Is he a molester or not? 

[savpruitt_28]

“Are you really dumb enough to to argue that a “potential” child molester is unqualified to be a Senator? Is he a molester or not?”
 
I never said “unqualified”. I personally would not be prepared to vote for someone with such a questionable background. Times are changing though, used to be a time having smoked pot, or used an unsecured email server, was a big deal.

[Unknown Member]

Wow, the media really do control the people’s minds. Pretty impressive.

[Unknown Member]

Hey show us some examples of what you are talking about because I’m not following you

[kayla.meyer_144]

A 5th woman appears complaining she was 16.

The new accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, told a news conference in New York that Mr. Moore attacked her when she was 16 and he was a prosecutor in Etowah County, Ala. Ms. Nelson was represented at the news conference by Gloria Allred, a lawyer who has championed victims of sexual harassment.

I tried fighting him off, while yelling at him to stop, but instead of stopping, he began squeezing my neck attempting to force my head onto his crotch, Ms. Nelson said in a statement she issued at the news conference. She said Mr. Moore warned her that no one will believe you if she told anyone about the encounter in his car.

I believe she stated something about who would believe a 16 year old girl over an assistant prosecutor.

We are in Alabama, so who would believe a 16 y/o over the assistant prosecutor?

[savpruitt_28]

So, are you saying this is more “fake news”, or that it really doesn’t matter what Moore is accused of as long as it is “not proven”? Just out of curiosity how low does the bar go for you?

[Unknown Member]

Quote from over-caffeinated

So, are you saying this is more “fake news”, or that it really doesn’t matter what Moore is accused of as long as it is “not proven”? Just out of curiosity how low does the bar go for you?

I have a healthy skepticism of the veracity of these claims. Yes, it’s terrible that in cases of sexual harassment/molestation, evidence is difficult if not impossible to provide, but the precept of “innocent until proven guilty” is an important one.

[savpruitt_28]

“I have a healthy skepticism of the veracity of these claims.”
 
Hey, I’m not proposing that he be fired or jailed. He is applying for a job, we get to be the employers, some of his references say he might have engaged in criminal activity in the past. It may not be true, or it might be true. Roll the dice I guess. Would you hire him to be in your group? 

[btomba_77]

Quote from Jan the Third

Wow, the media really do control the people’s minds. Pretty impressive.

What in this thread do you consider to be an example of media mind control?

[kaldridgewv2211]

Louie CK took an interesting approach in that he admitted to everything. What the heck must be wrong with that dude? He’s funny but where does your mind go when you decide to just Jack it in front of someone.

[ruszja]

Quote from DICOM_Dan

Louie CK took an interesting approach in that he admitted to everything. What the heck must be wrong with that dude? He’s funny but where does your mind go when you decide to just Jack it in front of someone.

Well, he is kind of like Letterman in that way. Neither of them ever claimed to be anything other than a sick twisted individual. So when Letterman was caught abusing an intern, all he had to do was to say ‘i am sorry’ and everyone moved on.

[kayla.meyer_144]

AND WHATABBOUT….THE GAME
 
How far into the past with selective list of people in a specific political persuasion should we go? Why go into the past so much when we have very recent examples of worse. Why not stay in the present? Still lots of names.
 
NPR just dismissed one editor.
 
Whatsisname of Faux News paying, what was it for hush money, $32 million? Oh yeah, O’Reilly! What do you have to do to someone that has a price tag of $32 million to shut them up? Roger Ailes? How many others just from Faux News as just 1 grouped example? Faux Business Plan?
 
I think the present has plenty of material to work with & the list seems to grow everyday.
 
 

[ruszja]

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Whatsisname of Faux News paying, what was it for hush money, $32 million? Oh yeah, O’Reilly! What do you have to do to someone that has a price tag of $32 million to shut them up? Roger Ailes? How many others just from Faux News as just 1 grouped example? Faux Business Plan?

 
Funny, you try to derail a thread with the ‘whataboutism’ claim by using ‘whataboutism.
 
Every blond bimbo without broadcasting skills knew who to blow to get a job at Fox. That was the entire business model.
 
Last night they had one of the women Bill Clinton raped on Fox business. She has a valid point when she says that now everyone is up in arms about this stuff but when she reported it 20 years ago it was largely dismissed without further investigation.

[Unknown Member]

Really was she 14 too?

This is not apples to apples there ranger rick….. this is child molestation no matter how much you try to spin it

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

Really was she 14 too?

This is not apples to apples there ranger rick….. this is child molestation no matter how much you try to spin it

 
Ah, so its only ‘legitimate rape’ if it involves an underage victim. Got it. Clintons victims were probably asking for it too.

[kayla.meyer_144]

It’s about the game of WHATABBOUTism, fw, the game.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from fw

Last night they had one of the women Bill Clinton raped on Fox business. She has a valid point when she says that now everyone is up in arms about this stuff but when she reported it 20 years ago it was largely dismissed without further investigation.

Not exactly factually true. Clinton had investigations coming out of his wazoo, the Republicans investigated everything including the anatomy of his penis – that turned out to be incorrect. And let us not forget all the murders the Clintons were involved in including Vince Foster. or the other drug-related murders. I’m sure you can get all the information from Infowars web site, Alex has it all for you.
 
No, nothing was left unturned. Although it is something to raise for those who don’t remember the events as they happened or who were too young to know. This sort of inference is good primarily for the conspiratorial minded, the Clintons “got away with it” because they were protected by Democrats hiding the truth.
 
Bull 

[ruszja]

Quote from Frumious

Not exactly factually true. Clinton had investigations coming out of his wazoo, the Republicans investigated everything including the anatomy of his penis – that turned out to be incorrect.

 
They investigated his fraudulent financial deals and his chronic lying. The trail of sexual abuse victims he left behind was not really the focus of the investigation, it just happened to be uncovered along the way. If a 32 year old and a 19 year old is creepy, a 49 year old and a 22 year old junior employee is super creepy.

[Unknown Member]

Roy Moore got banned from a mall now his campaign is making robocalls pretending to be a New York Jew named Bernie Bernstein

Yet you support him

You have no more credibility.. ever

Never

[100574]

don’t u just love the name they used–no John Miller–let’s see if Trump disowns this
I always felt Trump with Bannon’s approval let Bannon go so Bannon could be used as a weapon against the GOP establishment–looks like bannon has got his panties twisted with badddddddddddd candidates

Quote from kpack123

Roy Moore got banned from a mall now his campaign is making robocalls pretending to be a New York Jew named Bernie Bernstein

Yet you support him

You have no more credibility.. ever

Never

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

Roy Moore got banned from a mall now his campaign is making robocalls pretending to be a New York Jew named Bernie Bernstein

Yet you support him

You have no more credibility.. ever

Never

I don’t support him, never have. Throughout the last twenty years of his career as chief justice he has advocated for violations of the constitutional order in this country. Alabama Republicans made a great mistake by chosing him over the incumbent. Back when he won the primary runoff I stated that ‘there goes republican control of the senate’ because I expected his opponent to win. He is awful.

I just think the puritanical outrage about him dating girls fresh out of high school is misplaced from a party that considered a 49 yo diddling a 22 yo junior employee ‘a private matter between him and his wife’.

Oh, I also think Moore has the IQ of a potted plant. While I may not remember every date I ever went on, I do remember everyone I ever dated.

[kayla.meyer_144]

22 is not 14. THAT is the issue! Discussions about the age difference is an effort to sidestep the issue. You are arguing the difference between young women vs girls. A 14 year old is a girl, a child. A 16 year old is a girl, regardless if Alabama allows sexual relations with a child of that age. Do you think sexual relations with a girl or boy of 16 is sex with an adult? I do not. Even legal 18 or 19 is distasteful even though legal. You can help with his/her high school math homework between sex?
 
Clinton is a creep who didn’t keep his pants zippered, Moore is a pedophile.

[Unknown Member]

Hey show us some examples of what you are talking about because I’m not following you

[kathleen.hibler]

I wonder how the conservative side would have all played out if the allegation was not a 14 year old girl, but a 25 year old boy.

[Unknown Member]

According to Jaun the turd the evil snowflake media doesnt have th3 protoplasm to form a certain herant defens3 of an argument that actually doesnt exist ….except in his/her mind