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  • Posted by Unknown Member on May 7, 2015 at 6:25 am

    I rarely watch FOX but every time I walk past a TV with FOX on it is something negative

    The world is f’ng ending

    Everyone is out to get you

    It’s like a walking nirvana concert…..?everytime you walk past a TV smith Fox on a sublimal just shoot yourself and get it over plays

    Depressing and negative

    I guess that’s why I rarely watch it

    kaldridgewv2211 replied 11 months ago 12 Members · 150 Replies
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  • 19462008

    Member
    May 7, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    I feel the same way when I watch Rachael, Ed, Sharpton on MSNBC. Always Rosie colored glasses and everyone else is at fault. Thats why I watch more Anderson Cooper now.

    • Unknown Member

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      May 7, 2015 at 5:49 pm

      I watch the food network NFL network and the history channel nowadays

      I can’t stomach the political based finger pointing anymore

      The cable news networks are all miserable

      • odayjassim1978_476

        Member
        May 7, 2015 at 9:13 pm

        Fox is bad like Santa is white comment/they are so lost imho that they don;t know they are lost
        but the reckless disregard they showed reporting a cop had gunned down a black man in charm city is beyond irresponsibility/they wanted imho to set off a spark..agree with the sun if that;s what u have to offer then get out of town we don’t need you..take Geraldo and Hannity with u(like b or c list journalist)

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          May 8, 2015 at 5:01 am

          I’m making a concerted effort to tube out all cable news

          Fox msnbc are the same just different political affiliations

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            May 8, 2015 at 9:27 am

            Haven’t heard that MSNBC said that Santa is white or anything close. Or other misinformation Fox is infamous for.

            • Unknown Member

              Deleted User
              May 9, 2015 at 8:54 am

              You guys can’t possibly be as ignorant as you make yourselves out to be.
              Fox News is an entertainment network whose number one goal is to make advertising dollars.  And they do a pretty good job of it.  The hosts on Fox News are intentionally controversial.  They get the liberals panties all up in a wad.  The libs then complain ” Fox this and Fox that”, which is exactly what Fox wants.
              MSNBC is the same thing except they do a poor job.
              Its really that simple. 

              • Unknown Member

                Deleted User
                May 9, 2015 at 9:18 am

                Great looking women not afraid to show leg. I’m a fan.  Lou Dobbs cracks me up too

              • btomba_77

                Member
                May 9, 2015 at 9:49 am

                Quote from IR_CONSULT

                You guys can’t possibly be as ignorant as you make yourselves out to be.
                Fox News is an entertainment network whose number one goal is to make advertising dollars.  And they do a pretty good job of it.  The hosts on Fox News are intentionally controversial.  They get the liberals panties all up in a wad.  The libs then complain ” Fox this and Fox that”, which is exactly what Fox wants.
                MSNBC is the same thing except they do a poor job.
                Its really that simple. 

                 
                 
                You can’t be serious if you think that the Fox viewers consider it to be an “entertainment network”.   It polls among news watchers as “the most trustworthy news source”.   And for nearly half of conservatives Americans it is esentially the only source of news they consume.
                 
                 

                • Unknown Member

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                  May 9, 2015 at 10:07 am

                  I never suggested anything of the sort.
                  I’m just calling out Fox News for what it is.
                  I’m not responsible for the viewers ignorance.
                  Just kind of funny how the libs on here get a
                  little crazy about Fox News content.
                  …….. it’s entertainment, everybody take a deep
                  breath and relax.
                   

                  • pratapchandraari_713

                    Member
                    May 9, 2015 at 10:18 am

                    Cnbc is the best.  If anything important happens, they will cut to it; otherwise it’s great anchors asking great questions of the greatest ceo’s and investment minds out there.   
                     
                    Fox and MSNBC are propogranda, I can’t trust them to tell me the complete story.  CNN just avoids politics altogether and is nothing more than a glorified courtroom/missing plane drama.   
                     
                    I would rather have my news filtered with what the potential impact will be on jobs and the economy than hear two political operatives talk past each other.  

                    • Unknown Member

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                      May 9, 2015 at 11:55 am

                      Yeah CNBC is actually good

                      Except Joe Kernan…… He consistently tries to infuse politics into every discussion

                      Fortunately the other hosts don’t play the game with him. They just kinda ignore him and move on

                    • pratapchandraari_713

                      Member
                      May 9, 2015 at 4:55 pm

                      Quote from kpack123

                      Yeah CNBC is actually good

                      Except Joe Kernan…… He consistently tries to infuse politics into every discussion

                      Fortunately the other hosts don’t play the game with him. They just kinda ignore him and move on

                       
                      His nickname is Joker None and while part of me does hate him, the show wouldn’t be nearly as entertaining without him.  Also, Becky Quick more than makes up for him, that interview with Buffet and Gates was just amazing; and I don’t think they give that interview to any other journalist on TV.   As far as daily market analyses, I trust Bob pisani more than most, althought gleason says some intellgent things.   And where did they get these female reporters? They are all insanely hot and seem to have a higher IQ than me (or at least compared to most other male or female journalists i see).  Meg Tyrell was interviewing some CEO a few weeks ago and you could tell he was totally out of his depth both in style and substance.
                       
                       

              • kayla.meyer_144

                Member
                May 10, 2015 at 4:32 am

                Quote from IR_CONSULT

                You guys can’t possibly be as ignorant as you make yourselves out to be.
                Fox News is an entertainment network whose number one goal is to make advertising dollars.  And they do a pretty good job of it.  The hosts on Fox News are intentionally controversial.  They get the liberals panties all up in a wad.  The libs then complain ” Fox this and Fox that”, which is exactly what Fox wants.
                MSNBC is the same thing except they do a poor job.
                Its really that simple. 

                That’s a limp excuse for irresponsible reporting ti hide behind. Comedy Central’s Daily Show is entertainment, Fox NEWS says it in the name, NEWS. 
                 
                This is a fake argument. They sell mis-information, fear and doubt, That is NOT entertainment. It is hiding behinds the skirts of a lie.
                 
                The Onion is entertainment, Fox is trash selling trash. Recall the “entertainment” of announcing Romney’s victory over Obama’s actual win.
                 
                 
                 

                • Unknown Member

                  Deleted User
                  May 10, 2015 at 4:56 am

                  Fox big story lines

                  Democrats bad

                  Black people hate white people just as much as white people hate black people

                  Liberals bad

                  There is a war on Christmas

                  Armageddon is near

                  Liberal educators want to force their values including sexual orientation and aetheism onto our children

                  • 19462008

                    Member
                    May 10, 2015 at 5:11 am

                    Kpack…… So that’s not happening in our country? I think your glib into thinking that Fox News is the problem of out society and that the left is soooo sqeeky clean. Your “news” channels are as biased as ever. The majority of papers are left sided. Someone speaks of doing the right and just thing things like… Not killing the innocent, but punishing the evil criminal with death and you guys gave a cow. Yet… You guys do nothing to bring morals and respect back to this country. Let’s take ferguson… All those local community business owners having their hard working business trashed and burned by “decent respectable people”? Why is that? Probably because the left doesn’t push … “respect for others”

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      May 10, 2015 at 5:36 am

                      Left is “sqeaky clean?” Who said that except you & Fox apologists?
                       
                      Fact is Fox sells propaganda & lies. If they actually report a truth is an oversight.
                       
                      [link=http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/feb/26/fact-checks-behind-daily-shows-50-fox-news-lies/]http://www.politifact.com…hows-50-fox-news-lies/[/link]
                       
                       

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      May 10, 2015 at 5:48 am

                       

                      According to[link=http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/jan/29/punditfact-checks-cable-news-channels/] PunditFact[/link], here is how the three cable networks did on statements that the fact checker examined:
                      [blockquote] At Fox and Fox News, 10 percent of the claims PunditFact has rated have been True, 11 percent Mostly True, 18 percent Half True, 21 percent Mostly False, 31 percent False and nine percent Pants on Fire.
                      That means about 60 percent of the claims checked have been rated Mostly False or worse. 
                      .
                      At MSNBC and NBC, 44 percent of claims have received a rating of Mostly False or worse.
                      .
                      And as for CNN? It has the best record among the cable networks, as 80 percent of of the claims rated are Half True or better.
                      [/blockquote]  

                       
                      Fox stands out among the rest.
                       

                    • Unknown Member

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                      May 10, 2015 at 6:05 am

                      Cuda

                      I just think it’s depressing and immflammatory

                      Looking for arguments around every corner……. Chasing boogeymans……..fight at best extreme arguments or at worst totally fake arguments

                      I don’t think it’s productive at all

                      What good does it do?

                      There is no war on Christmas

                      Most people don’t hate others of different races

                      Liberal educators are not teaching my kids to be communist homosexuals…..that’s just not happening in the world I’m living in

                      The world isn’t ending tomorrow

                      It’s meaningless depressing BS

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      May 10, 2015 at 6:08 am

                      ….. And

                      My news channel is the NFL network ESPN and the food and history channel

                • Unknown Member

                  Deleted User
                  May 10, 2015 at 7:28 am

                  Quote from Frumious

                  Quote from IR_CONSULT

                  You guys can’t possibly be as ignorant as you make yourselves out to be.
                  Fox News is an entertainment network whose number one goal is to make advertising dollars.  And they do a pretty good job of it.  The hosts on Fox News are intentionally controversial.  They get the liberals panties all up in a wad.  The libs then complain ” Fox this and Fox that”, which is exactly what Fox wants.
                  MSNBC is the same thing except they do a poor job.
                  Its really that simple. 

                  That’s a limp excuse for irresponsible reporting ti hide behind. Comedy Central’s Daily Show is entertainment, Fox NEWS says it in the name, NEWS. 

                  This is a fake argument. They sell mis-information, fear and doubt, That is NOT entertainment. It is hiding behinds the skirts of a lie.

                  The Onion is entertainment, Fox is trash selling trash. Recall the “entertainment” of announcing Romney’s victory over Obama’s actual win.

                  Yes.  I agree with you.  MSNBC does the same thing.  What FOX News does makes
                  money.  Do you have any idea what the salaries are for the top hosts?  Its about making money.  Why would you care what FOX is selling.  Do you want the FCC to
                  shut them down?  The New York Times is an incredibly biased rag that is also selling trash.  You want to shut them down too?

                  • Unknown Member

                    Deleted User
                    May 10, 2015 at 7:35 am

                    The New York Times isn’t that biased

                    Another fake argument just like the evil liberal college professors who are promoting communist homosexuality

                    Not even close to Fox or MSNBC

                    And usually when they are blatantly biased it’s in a page marked Opinion

                    Again BS

                    • Unknown Member

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                      May 10, 2015 at 8:01 am

                      You are blinded by your own bias. You are entitled to your opinion.
                      In your typical liberal mindset, I am not entitled to my opinion.
                      We are done.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      May 10, 2015 at 8:20 am

                      I guess if you don’t watch FOX you are an aetheism liberal homosexual who hates Christians and white people wars on Christmas and believes all college professors are scheming to indoctrinate our youth

                      That’s what’s funny…….say anything negative about Fox and automatically get labeled with an extreme liberal agenda

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      May 10, 2015 at 8:52 am

                      I didn’t realize kpack said you wren’t entitled to your own opinion, IR.
                       
                      Is this defensive position of yours accusing others of wanting to shut you down heart-felt or a pose to get others to shut up?

  • kayla.meyer_144

    Member
    May 15, 2015 at 2:37 am

    I for one am going to miss JohnStewert when he’s gone form the Daily Show. He is a counter-balance to the lying BS form the Right, specifically from the Fox News tribes.
     
    Did you see Wednesday’s show about how Fox News claims it has never vilified the poor in response to Obama’s appearance at the summit on poverty at Georgetown University?
     
    Most excellent takedown of the liars at Fox. Fox says, “We don’t call the poor “leeches!”” & Stewert’s answer is, “Here, let me Google that for you,” & finds nothing but Fox leeches. That includes Scarborough. You’d think uninformed stupidity is a prerequisite for getting a job in the Right’s media. After all, look at the lineup.
     
    [link=http://crooksandliars.com/2015/05/john-stewart-rips-fox-scarborough-whining]http://crooksandliars.com…ox-scarborough-whining[/link]

    Oh wait! I forgot! Calling the poor “leeches” is what passes for [i][b]entertainment[/b][/i] these days for the Right on their [b][i]Entertainment Network[/i][/b], Fox [i][b]News[/b][u].[/u][/i]
     
    Sorry, my bad.
     

     
     
     

    • 19462008

      Member
      May 15, 2015 at 4:03 am

      Don’t worry Frumi… You still have have Bill Maher. Your opportunistic, two faced elitist; name calling, God hating; racists left wing bigot wonder boy. What a class act.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        May 15, 2015 at 4:34 am

        Bill Maher is an entertainer. Didn’t you hear? Just like Fox News Entertainment Network.
         
        Interesting that you would equally compare Bill Maher, an individual to a network, Fox News.
         
        Maher’s comments are much more honest & less hateful than Fox’s & he has Conservatives and Republicans on his show weekly & allows them to state their mind without cutting their mics or shouting them down. At least your “God-hating” description is accurate about Maher, something he makes no bones about.
         
        But how does all that change the hate and hateful lies of Fox News anyway? Fox News is still be the filthy dregs with or without Maher.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          May 15, 2015 at 5:04 am

          As I said

          I guess if you don’t watch FOX you are an aetheism liberal homosexual who hates Christians and white people wars on Christmas and believes all college professors

          • Unknown Member

            Deleted User
            May 15, 2015 at 5:42 am

            I get more and more amazed every day by how many people can remove themselves from reality

        • 19462008

          Member
          May 18, 2015 at 8:07 pm

          Quote from Frumious

          Bill Maher is an entertainer. Didn’t you hear? Just like Fox News Entertainment Network.

          Interesting that you would equally compare Bill Maher, an individual to a network, Fox News.

          Maher’s comments are much more honest & less hateful than Fox’s & he has Conservatives and Republicans on his show weekly & allows them to state their mind without cutting their mics or shouting them down. At least your “God-hating” description is accurate about Maher, something he makes no bones about.

          But how does all that change the hate and hateful lies of Fox News anyway? Fox News is still be the filthy dregs with or without Maher.

          1. Maher uses Fox news for his agenda as well. Never has he brought MSNBC in the picture or question their errors of falsehood on the rants of “good news reporting”. Yes, he has many Political guest but it’s with rarity that the other side has a voice, a 4:1 ratio is not good comedy debate and that’s what he does. Truthfully… I can’t stand the guy. Never thought he was funny in movies or TV.
           
          All of them lie or stretch the truth, it’s about money. Doesn’t any get that? To say that [i][b]only[/b][/i] Fox news produces hateful lies demonstrates how glib your are. And comparing Fox lies to Bill Maher hatred rants, tells me, you don’t watch much TV.

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            May 19, 2015 at 5:12 am

            Why wouldn’t he use Fox? He uses religion as well, neither of which he like very much. He has also attacked the “liberal” press & pundits as well as Obama on many occasions. As for his show & allowing conservatives to speak their mind, he does.
             
            & I didn’t say [i][b]ONLY[/b][/i] Fox “misspoke,” only that Fox is the most egregious.  Rush is also up there. 
             
            And as Mistrad was always proud & loved to point out to me, Fox’s audience is very much larger than MSNBC or CNN or anyone else on cable pointing out they therefore have a much larger influence. Rather like the lion’s roar over the left’s mouse squeak. Too bad much of that roar is not exactly accurate information.
             
            [link=http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/]http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/[/link]
             

            • odayjassim1978_476

              Member
              May 19, 2015 at 8:33 am

              the bandidos versus the cossacks…like whitey bulger thugs meeting for a summit to chill things out…all ruin by a fight in the bathroom and a parking space outside

  • btomba_77

    Member
    May 21, 2015 at 4:01 am

    [link=http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2604679]http://papers.ssrn.com/so…fm?abstract_id=2604679[/link]
     
     
    A fortuitously timed (for purposes of this thread) release of a new paper on Fox News, authored by Bruce Bartlett, former Reagan director of Domestic Policy, George HW Bush Treasury official, and notorious supply sider.
     
    [b]
    [/b]
    [h1][b]How Fox News Changed American Media and Political Dynamics[/b][/h1]  

    [b][b][b][size=”2″]Abstract: [/b][/size][/b]   [/b]
      
    [size=”2″] The creation of Fox News in 1996 was an event of deep, yet unappreciated, political and historical importance. For the first time, there was a news source available virtually everywhere in the United States, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, with a conservative tilt. Finally, conservatives did not have to seek out bits of news favorable to their point of view in liberal publications or in small magazines and newsletters. Like someone dying of thirst in the desert, conservatives drank heavily from the Fox waters. Soon, it became the dominant and in many cases, virtually the only major news source for millions of Americans. This has had profound political implications that are only starting to be appreciated. Indeed, it can almost be called self-brainwashing many conservatives now refuse to even listen to any news or opinion not vetted through Fox, and to believe whatever appears on it as the gospel truth.


    Buoyed by its success as an explicitly conservative network, it appears that right-wing bias, including inaccurate reporting, became commonplace on Fox. For example:
    A study of network coverage of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars in 2005 found that Fox was alone in supporting the Bush administration during a period when the wars were going badly by any objective standard. It concluded that scholars should consider Fox as alternative, rather than mainstream, media.32
    Fox instructed its on-air talent to avoid using the term public option when discussing health reform and are required to say that global warming is merely a theory based on data that critics have called into question.33
    A 2010 study found that Fox actively spread rumors and inaccurate information about a proposed mosque planned for lower Manhattan.34
    A 2012 study found that Fox takes a dismissive tone toward climate change and interviews a much larger number of doubters than believers. Fox viewers are much more likely to be skeptical of global warming.35 A 2014 study found that 72 percent of references to climate change on Fox in 2013 were misleading.36
    Fox consistently downplays gun violence.

    [b]Fox Viewers Misinformed[/b] A number of surveys have found Fox views to be less well informed and more likely to have factually untrue beliefs than those who receive their news from mainstream sources. A 2003 University of Maryland study compiled a list of 9 misperceptions about the Iraq war, such as there being a link between Iraq and al-Qaeda and the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, neither of which were true, and asked people which of these misperceptions they believed. Fox viewers were more likely to be misinformed than those getting their news elsewhere.


    Another problem is that Republican voters get so much of their news from Fox, which cheerleads whatever their candidates are doing or saying, that they suffer from wishful thinking and fail to see that they may not be doing as well as they imagine, or that their ideas are not connecting outside the narrow party base. As a recent academic study found:

    “Exposure to programs featured on Fox News, such as those hosted by Bill OReilly and Sean Hannity, resulted in a greater wishful thinking effect by Romney supporters. In other words, while Romney supporters were substantially more likely to predict their candidate would win the 2012 presidential election, watching Fox News programming exacerbated this effect.62 ”

    It may be that some Republican Fox viewers became complacent and didnt work as hard as they might if they had been more aware of how badly Romney was doing in the final days of the campaign.

    {The paper closes with a David Frum quote}

    Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we’re discovering we work for Fox. And this balance here has been completely reversed. The thing that sustains a strong Fox network is the thing that undermines a strong Republican party.

    [/size]

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      May 21, 2015 at 4:43 am

      While all very true, Bruce Bartlett like some other Republican apostates – like David Frum –  has crossed the Rubicon by criticizing the closed universe of conservative thinking & belief. He will be dismissed as a RINO and worse by those who blindly believe in Fox & the Republican catechism which is unrelated to actual truthful facts.

      • odayjassim1978_476

        Member
        May 21, 2015 at 4:45 am

        david from looked in pain last night on cable

      • Unknown Member

        Deleted User
        May 26, 2015 at 7:24 am

        wah, wah , wah, Fox news lies………..
        Mr Ailes thanks you for watching.

        • btomba_77

          Member
          July 11, 2022 at 1:26 pm

          [b]Fox News:[/b]

          Now Gas Prices Are Falling Too Quickly

          The latest talking point from Fox News is that gas prices are coming down so quickly that it might hurt the independent Mom and Pop gas stations.

          • Unknown Member

            Deleted User
            July 11, 2022 at 1:29 pm

            Funny

            I have not seen a mom and pop gas station in 25 years

            Play to rural base

            • btomba_77

              Member
              November 11, 2022 at 9:44 am

              Great mash-up video.
               
              Hannity says he just can’t figure out where all this talk of a Red Wave came from …. (followed by over a dozen clips of Fox personalities hyping a red wave)

              [link=https://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1590846178241150976]https://twitter.com/Riege…us/1590846178241150976[/link]

              • btomba_77

                Member
                November 11, 2022 at 9:46 am

                Fox has, btw, already moved on from the mid-terms and returned to transphobia

                • ruszja

                  Member
                  December 6, 2022 at 11:24 am

                  Quote from dergon

                  Fox has, btw, already moved on from the mid-terms and returned to transphobia

                   
                  Second only to daily updates about the 4 murdered college students in Idaho.

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    December 6, 2022 at 11:26 am

                    Like CNN covering a missing plane

                  • Unknown Member

                    Deleted User
                    December 6, 2022 at 11:54 am

                    Second only to daily updates about the 4 murdered college students in Idaho.

                    Yes if it was Chicago New York or LA it would be the democratic crime wave thats Bidens fault

                    But since its Idaho its not

                    • ruszja

                      Member
                      December 6, 2022 at 12:17 pm

                      Quote from Chirorad84

                      Second only to daily updates about the 4 murdered college students in Idaho.

                      Yes if it was Chicago New York or LA it would be the democratic crime wave thats Bidens fault

                      But since its Idaho its not

                       
                      Fervent prayers from Fox for a good outcome of this investigation. And with a good outcome, what they mean is that it was done by an illegal immigrant.
                       
                      But you are right. In a democrat run city, this would just count as ‘a busy friday night’.

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      December 6, 2022 at 2:14 pm

                      Funny how the big crime wave suddenly became non-news on Fox & right-wing media.
                       
                      I cant figure out why. Electing Democrats maybe?
                       
                      [link=https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-violent-crime-coverage-174639709.html]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-violent-crime-coverage-174639709.html[/link]

              • kaldridgewv2211

                Member
                March 2, 2023 at 4:44 pm

                My Uncle Tom owns Portage Sevice with a business partner. The gas doesnt make money but the honest mechanic service does. He was a long time Chrysler service manager and in 09 when Chrysler cut dealerships they lost theirs. Sheets bought that whole lot and built a mega sheets. So they Bought the place across the street. Still a mom and pop. But hes looking to retire. Hes like one of those guys everyone waves to and they have more work than can handle.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    December 6, 2022 at 9:41 am

    [b]Fox News Ignores Trumps Call to Suspend the Constitution[/b][/h1]  
     
    [link=https://view.newsletters.cnn.com/messages/16702915212228433724744b4/raw?utm_term=16702915212228433724744b4&utm_source=cnn_Reliable+Sources+-+December+5%2C+2022&utm_medium=email&bt_ee=%2B0EM2%2BjF%2F%2BRxKPEd84jp7vC5jDS5v4CjumWypn%2Bl4llaHNABPHVx8po0gc3%2BByGH&bt_ts=1670291521225]Oliver Darcy[/link]: Whats Fox News really good at doing? Ignoring important news stories. The right-wing channel has largely turned a blind eye to former President Donald Trumps disturbing call to terminate the U.S. Constitution and install him as president or hold a new election.
     
    [link=https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-has-given-trumps-call-termination-constitution-one-minute-coverage]Matt Gertz[/link] reports that up until noon Monday, the channel had spent just over one minute on the story.

     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 2, 2023 at 3:30 pm

    [h3][link=https://www.thebulwark.com/please-lie-to-me-tucker/]Please Lie to Me, Tucker – Mona Charen[/link][/h3]
    [b]Fox News isnt news at all.

    [/b]

    Like most conservatives, I initially welcomed Fox News to the airwaves. A media world that included Jennifer Griffin at the Pentagon, Neil Cavuto on Wall Street, and Charles Krauthammer every evening on [i]Special Report[/i] was an overdue counterbalance. An enormous audience had been underserved, and Fox was able to exploit an opening.
     
    But then things went sideways. While we cant say the Fox News effect was entirely responsibletalk radio too played a role, as did social mediait started to become evident during the Obama years that the rights impatience with press bias had curdled into something more ominous. Instead of seeking to fact check and balance coverage, Republican and conservative audiences demanded combat. Newt Gingrich turbocharged his anemic presidential campaign in 2011 by using the primary debates not as an opportunity to draw contrasts with his opponents but as a forum for [link=https://www.npr.org/2011/11/17/142421000/by-attacking-the-media-gingrich-built-a-following]attacking[/link] the press. When [i]Politico[/i]s John Harris asked Gingrich about a philosophical dispute regarding health insurance, Gingrich wheeled on him:

    We know what to think of Fox News hosts and executives. But what about the audience? All of us indulge the urge, at least sometimes, to hear news that confirms our own views. What Foxs audience must grapple with is that choosing news is not like other consumer choices. Its not like choosing country music in preference to hip hop or preferring Android over iOS. Getting the truth from a news source is more analogous to getting the straight story from your doctor or financial adviser or home inspector. If your financial adviser told you what you wanted to hear rather than the truth, youd have a legal case. He or she has a professional responsibility not to mislead you. If your doctor assured you that your skin lesion was benign because he thought this would be more welcome than the news that it was melanoma requiring immediate treatment, the doctor would be guilty of malpractice and you wouldnt thank him. When Fox News and its competitors lie to viewers, they are endangering not their physical health but their civic health and the good of the nation.
     
     
    For decades, conservatives longed to get the whole story into the national news, but by demanding agreeable fiction instead of accepting complex fact, they have embarrassed themselves and undermined the casestill relevantfor fair and balanced coverage.

    [/QUOTE]
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 5, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    [h1][b]Inside the Panic at Fox News After the 2020 Election[/b][/h1] [b]
    [/b]
    [b]If we hadnt called Arizona, said Suzanne Scott, the networks chief executive, according to a recording reviewed by The New York Times, our ratings would have been bigger.[/b]
    [b] [/b]
     [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/04/us/politics/panic-fox-news-2020-election.html]New York Times[/link] 
     

    A little more than a week after television networks called the 2020 presidential election for Joseph R. Biden Jr., top executives and anchors at Fox News held an after-action meeting to figure out how they had messed up.
     
    Not because they had gotten the key call wrong but because they had gotten it right. And they had gotten it right before anyone else.
     
    Typically, it is a point of pride for a news network to be the first to project election winners. But Fox is no typical news network, and in the days following the 2020 vote, it was besieged with angry protests not only from President Donald J. Trumps camp but from its own viewers because it had called the battleground state of Arizona for Mr. Biden. Never mind that the call was correct; Fox executives worried that they would lose viewers to hard-right competitors like Newsmax.[/QUOTE]
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 12, 2023 at 3:00 pm

    Nothing to see here … Just Tucker Carlsons staffs view of Fox Nation as terroristsbut especially dumb ones. Cousin f*cking types not saudi royalty.

    [link=https://mobile.twitter.com/EricColumbus/status/1634928387142864896]https://mobile.twitter.co…us/1634928387142864896[/link]

    [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrBus4uX0AI0uew?format=jpg&name=large[/img]

    [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrBus4oWcAMRkMe?format=jpg&name=large[/img]

    [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/12/raj-shah-fox-trump/]https://www.washingtonpos…12/raj-shah-fox-trump/[/link]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 16, 2023 at 7:58 am

    [link=https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/1636356420214878209]https://twitter.com/aidnm…us/1636356420214878209[/link]
     
    New poll on Fox News viewers since the Dominion revelations:
     
    21% have less trust in the network
    9% arent watching the network as much as they used to
    13% no longer believe the election was stolen after reading private texts from Fox’s stars
     
     
     
    not as damaging as it should be yet, but it’s a start 

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      March 16, 2023 at 8:10 am

      13%
       
      WOW! Determined to stay ignorant.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 23, 2023 at 4:42 am

    [b]Trump to Return to Fox News[/b][/h1]  
     
    Donald Trump is set to talk to Sean Hannity on Fox News on Monday, the [link=https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1638742331816919043]New York Times[/link] reports.
     
    It would be his first weekday appearance since September amid a so-called soft ban of the former president at the network.

     

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      March 24, 2023 at 8:18 am

      None other than Bill Barr defending Fox’s right to spread lies because holding them to actual telling the truth about facts would destroy the 1st Amendment!
       
      Who knew that media has a responsibility to broadcast the actual truth & that knowingly lying is a 1st Amendment right.
       
      We need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine and more regulation to have truthful media. Errors are 1 thing, knowingly lying is beyond the fringe.
       
      [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/dominion-should-lose-its-case-against-fox-defamation-voting-trump-election-malice-sullivan-hosts-1e6a8a11?mod=opinion_trending_now_opn_pos5]https://www.wsj.com/articles/dominion-should-lose-its-case-against-fox-defamation-voting-trump-election-malice-sullivan-hosts-1e6a8a11[/link]

      The mainstream press has reacted predictably in recent weeks after Fox Newss internal communications and witness depositions were disclosed in Dominion Voting Systems defamation lawsuit against the network. [b][i]Blinded by resentment at Foxs success as an alternative media voice, many media organizations offered a distorted narrativelargely parroting Dominions spin [/i][/b][u][i](WOW! resentment is causing the call for truth in media???) – [/i][/u]that the disclosures doom Foxs legal defense.
       
      …a ruling against Fox would be a major blow to media freedoms generally, subjecting news outlets to the prospect of outsize liability whenever they report on newsworthy allegations that turn out to be false.[i][u] (Well, there’s a spin.)[/u][/i]

      This whole opinion piece on WSJ Opinion page is nothing but spin BS.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        March 24, 2023 at 9:56 am

        Quote from Frumious

        None other than Bill Barr defending Fox’s right to spread lies …

        [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/dominion-should-lose-its-case-against-fox-defamation-voting-trump-election-malice-sullivan-hosts-1e6a8a11?mod=opinion_trending_now_opn_pos5]https://www.wsj.com/articles/dominion-should-lose-its-case-against-fox-defamation-voting-trump-election-malice-sullivan-hosts-1e6a8a11[/link]

        This whole opinion piece on WSJ Opinion page is nothing but spin BS.

         
        Yep.  
         
        Barr writes: A ruling against Fox would be a major blow to media freedoms generally, subjecting news outlets to the prospect of outsize liability whenever they report on newsworthy allegations that turn out to be false.
         
         
        Predictable that Barr jumps on the “they were just reporting on news that later turned out to be false” bandwagon.
         
         
         
        If they didn’t know that youre repeating lies that would be one thing.
         
        But as the evidence Dominion got from Fox News and the depositions of their hosts shows, that certainly wasnt the case here. Carlson and Hannity and even Murdoch saying both publicly and privately he didnt believe the BS. But they reported it breathlessly nonetheless.
         

        Later on November 19, Dobbs posted his video of his interview with Powell on Twitter with a caption stating, inter alia, that Powell has no doubt that Dominion voting machines run [SUSA]s software which allows [it] to manipulate the votes. Doc. 1 at par. 133; Doc. 29. The same day, Tucker Carlson, a Fox News host who is arguably the single most influential conservative media personality in the United States8, wrote an article stating that, if what Powell said about stolen votes were true, it would be the single greatest crime in American history, and he thus called on her to provide the evidence she claimed she had. Doc. 138. However, Powell never provided the evidence requested. Carlson also checked with members of President Trumps campaign and they, too, advised him that they had never seen such evidence. Indeed, Carlson admitted that Powell never demonstrated that a single vote was flipped from President Trump to President Biden.

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          March 24, 2023 at 10:06 am

          The whole oops it turned out to be false thing is a tough sell considering they were all privately texting and emailing that it was all just a line of BS.

          • btomba_77

            Member
            March 24, 2023 at 11:04 am

            Quote from DICOM_Dan

            The whole oops it turned out to be false thing is a tough sell considering they were all privately texting and emailing that it was all just a line of BS.

            Bill Barr conveniently providing a short summary that fails to address the most important facts?!
             
            Where have I seen that before …..

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              March 24, 2023 at 12:15 pm

              Trump & KellyAnn & the rest of the usual suspects gave us Alternate Facts!
               
              When the facts are inconvenient, LIE & SPIN through your teeth!
               
              YAY!

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 25, 2023 at 12:09 pm

    Unhinged: Trump Ripped In Withering Editorial From Rupert Murdochs New York Post

    [link=https://news.yahoo.com/unhinged-trump-ripped-withering-editorial-063020890.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00]https://news.yahoo.com/un…aily_mail&uh_test=0_00[/link]

    “The New York Post, the previously pro-Donald Trump tabloid owned by conservative billionaire Rupert Murdoch, on Friday urged supporters of the former president to look elsewhere.

    He hasnt changed in the slightest. There is no shame, wrote the Posts editorial board, which said it didnt disagree with claims that Trump faces a biased prosecution but slammed the former president for seeking to inspire a mob.

    Time and time again, Trumps responses have been unhinged … and self-defeating, it continued, adding that Trump is not trying to make America a better place but just seeking revenge.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    March 28, 2023 at 9:44 am

    The Trump soft ban on Fox over. He did his hannnity interview

    Jan 6 according to Trump: His song with the imprisoned insurrectionists is [b]huge![/b] bigger than Taylor Swift!

     

    [link=https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jason-chaffetz-goes-off-on-absolutely-horrific-trump-sitdown-with-hannity-worst-interview-ive-seen-him-do/]https://www.mediaite.com/…rview-ive-seen-him-do/[/link]

    [b]Jason Chaffetz Goes OFF on Absolutely Horrific! Trump Sitdown With Hannity: Worst Interview Ive Seen Him Do[/b]

    I thought Sean Hannity did a good job. But I watched that and I thought, where is Donald Trump? I voted for Donald Trump twice. I have defended him countless times. I thought he was horrific. I think that was the worst interview Ive seen the president do. He was whining. He was complaining. He played the victim card. Time and time again. And then after that, he complained that, you know, somebody had endorsed was now running against him. And I. I thought he was absolutely horrific. Hes the former president of the United States. Act like it. He didnt in that interview.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    April 4, 2023 at 9:08 am

    [h1][link=https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3933422-trump-slams-fox-for-putting-on-bill-barr/]Trump slams Fox for putting on Bill Barr [/link][/h1]

    Why does Fox keep putting on [link=https://thehill.com/people/bill-barr/]Bill Barr,[/link] Trump wrote in a Truth Social post on Tuesday. As attorney general he was a complete coward who was absolutely petrified of being impeached, which the democrats threatened to do until he became their virtual slave and refused to investigate and prosecute the massive election fraud that took place in the 2020 presidential election, by far the radical lefts greatest concern.

    When you see RINOs Karl Rove, Bill Barr, or Paul Ryan on your television screen, just turn to a different station, or turn off your set, Trump wrote on Tuesday. Youre better off watching the Democrats!

    [/QUOTE]
     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      April 4, 2023 at 10:48 am

      Bill keeps carrying water for Trump like > 95% of the time.

      • ruszja

        Member
        April 4, 2023 at 8:31 pm

        Fox is back on the Trump Train. They must figure there is more money with him than without him .

        • btomba_77

          Member
          April 5, 2023 at 3:35 am

          Quote from fw

          Fox is back on the Trump Train. They must figure there is more money with him than without him .

          As we’ve seen in the Smarmatic/Dominion discovery, Fox is *very* aware that when they turn on Trump they lose viewers.

          • btomba_77

            Member
            April 6, 2023 at 6:55 am

            [b]How Fox Chased Its Audience Down the Rabbit Hole[/b][/h1]  
             
             
            [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/magazine/fox-dominion-jan-6.html]Jim Rutenberg[/link]: Dominion is now arguing in its seismic defamation lawsuit against Fox that the network had by then made its choice: It would amplify a lie to maintain its audience. Dominion is now seeking $1.6 billion in damages from the news network and its parent company in a defamation trial that barring a settlement is scheduled to start in Delaware this month. (Smartmatic is also suing, seeking $2.7 billion, with a trial date pending. In both cases, Fox is arguing that its actions are protected by the First Amendment.) Losses in either or both cases would represent a big hit to the balance sheet of the Fox Corporation, which reported a net income of $1.2 billion in 2022. But the case is about matters more existential than Foxs bottom line.
            Dominions pretrial court filings have already provided a rare look inside the companys decision-making process throughout the election crisis that preceded the Jan. 6 insurrection. The president the network favored was promoting a lie that Democrats were illegally seizing power through pervasive, systemic voter fraud to stay in office. That lie excited and angered his supporters, and many of those supporters were also Foxs core audience. Violence was in the air, the fate of democracy up for grabs. If ever there was a time for Fox News to live up to the journalistic promise still embedded in its name, it was then.
             
            [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/business/media/rupert-murdoch-testify-fox-dominion-trial.html]New York Times[/link]: The witness list for the Fox News $1.6 billion defamation trial now has more big names than a prime-time lineup.

             

  • btomba_77

    Member
    April 10, 2023 at 4:13 am

    [link=https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/10/fox-news-settles-lawsuit-with-venezuelan-over-election-vote-rigging-claims]Fox News settles lawsuit with Venezuelan over election vote-rigging claims

    [/link][b]Majed Khalil took Murdoch broadcaster to court after presenter Lou Dobbs accused him of orchestrating a non-existent scheme to fix the election[/b]

    settlement terms not public

  • btomba_77

    Member
    April 12, 2023 at 5:01 am

    [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/business/fox-news-dominion-trial.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes]https://www.nytimes.com/2…ur&smid=tw-nytimes[/link]

    Judge Limits Foxs Options for Defense in Dominion Trial[/h1] A Delaware judge said Fox News could not argue newsworthiness to defend airing false claims, and limited how Dominion Voting Systems could refer to the Jan. 6 attack.

    A judge ruled on Tuesday that Fox News could not argue that it broadcast false information about Dominion Voting Systems on the basis that the allegations were newsworthy, limiting a key line of defense for the network as it faces the beginning of a potentially costly defamation trial next week.
    The judge, Eric M. Davis of Delaware Superior Court, also ruled that Dominion could not refer to the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the Capitol except in very narrow circumstances, saying he did not want jurors to be prejudiced by events that werent relevant to the central question in the case: Did Fox air wild claims about Dominions purported involvement in a conspiracy to steal the 2020 presidential election from Donald J. Trump knowing that they were lies?

     
    Judge Davis said he would allow lawyers to ask potential jurors about their cable news viewing habits and whether they watched Fox News programs or intentionally avoided them. He will not, however, permit questions about how someone voted.
     
    In another ruling, the judge denied a motion from Dominion that sought to limit how Fox lawyers could invoke the First Amendment, leaving the network with some space to argue that the Constitution shields it from liability.
    [/QUOTE]
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    April 12, 2023 at 5:41 am

    [h1]Judge Expresses Anger Over Recent Dominion Lawsuit Disclosure That Rupert Murdoch Is An Officer Of Both Fox News & Fox Corporation[/h1]

    [link=https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadline.com%2F2023%2F04%2Ffox-dominion-defamation-trial-1235321771%2F]https://deadline.com/2023/04/fox-dom…al-1235321771/[/link]
     
    A Delaware judge on Tuesday expressed anger over recent disclosure made by Fox that Rupert Murdoch is listed as an officer of [link=https://deadline.com/tag/fox-news/]Fox News[/link], not just Fox Corporation.
     
    This is a problem, Judge Eric M. Davis told Fox attorneys, saying that it could have impacted his previous rulings in the case.
     
    A [link=https://deadline.com/tag/dominion/]Dominion[/link] attorney argued that the last-minute disclosure, made by Fox to Dominion on Sunday, has had an impact on the way that the case has been litigated. He said that it means that they would be entitled to a wider set of documents from Fox, including from Murdoch, during the discovery phase of the case.
     
    Fox has previously argued that Fox Corporation and its officers, including Murdoch and his son, CEO Lachlan Murdoch, did not have daily operational roles at the network.
     
    It is very troubling that this is where we are, said Justin Nelson, attorney for Dominion, adding that it is something that has very much affected how we have litigated this case.
     
    Nelson showed court filings from two years ago in which Fox listed Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott, COO and CFO Joe Dorrego and Fox News President Jay Wallace as officers.
     
    In a pre-trial conference last week, Davis asked about who the Fox News officers were, but the companys attorneys did not provide a definitive answer.
    To say we dont know who our officers are seems extremely bizarre, and now we find out, Davis said.
     
    A Fox attorney said that while Murdoch is listed as a Fox News officer, as executive chairman, it is an honorific position. The attorney also said that Murdoch acknowledged in a deposition that he was an officer.
     

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