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  • Fear- Book coming out about the Trump administration.

    Posted by Unknown Member on September 5, 2018 at 6:46 am

    Pre-ordered mine on kindle.
     
    The denials from the Trump White House have already started…who do we believe, a two-time Pulitzer Prize winning author who has written books about every president since Nixon, or a white house where the truth seems to be whatever they deem it to be.

    btomba_77 replied 1 year, 5 months ago 7 Members · 59 Replies
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  • Unknown Member

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    September 5, 2018 at 7:16 am

    Most everyone knows trump is a

    1. Liar

    2. Child-like mentality

    3. No sense of history

    Nothing new just a reiteration of what the world already knows

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      September 5, 2018 at 7:51 am

      We all knew who we were getting just some rationalized that he wasn’t as crazy and irresponsible and crooked as he seemed. And those of us in New York City and New Jersey knew he was as bad if not worse. Well, now even they know only they don’t really care.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 7, 2018 at 5:48 am

    [link=https://politicalwire.com/2018/09/07/trump-accuses-woodward-of-making-up-quotes/]Trump Accuses Woodward of Making Up Quotes[/link][/h2]  
    President Trump took fresh aim at Bob Woodwards [link=https://amzn.to/2oPqXsU]forthcoming book[/link] on his presidency, calling it a scam and disputing quotes attributed to him, the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-dont-talk-the-way-i-am-quoted-trump-offers-fresh-criticism-of-woodward-book/2018/09/07/29d215ce-b292-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html?utm_term=.58a3d9e5d8fa]Washington Post[/link] reports.
    Said Trump: I dont talk the way I am quoted. If I did I would not have been elected President. These quotes were made up.
    He added: The author uses every trick in the book to demean and belittle. I wish the people could see the real facts and our country is doing great!
     
     
    _____
     
    That strategy worked well with the [i]Fire and Fury[/i] book … but this is Bob Woodward.  If it’s in quotes it’s a quote.

     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      September 7, 2018 at 7:45 am

      So mostly people take Woodward on his word because he is supposedly the type of big J that will meticulously source his quotes.  He also writes in the omniscient third party style as to not give away who he got the quotes from.  
       
      I was listening to a story from someone who worked in the BO admin when he wrote a book during that term.  Supposedly he pointed to the safe and said I’d like the files in there, and then busted out copies of files he already had.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        September 8, 2018 at 1:57 pm

        It was Jared

        • kayla.meyer_144

          Member
          September 8, 2018 at 6:31 pm

          Mulvaney pulling out all the Fascism stops. The Administration that built itself on lies and hatred are crying victimization. That is the playbook of Fascists.

          • Unknown Member

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            September 8, 2018 at 9:18 pm

            Actually, the playbook of fascists is:
             
            1) Disarm the public
            2) Assume control of the media
            3) Terrorize and kill dissidents
            4) Increase size and scope of govt through regulation
            5) Nationalize industry
             
            etc.
             
            Trump – Pro gun. Media almost entirely against him except Fox. Hasn’t killed dissidents. Has decreased the size and scope of govt through deregulation, tax cuts etc. Has given industry immense opportunity through tax reform and asset repatriation. 
             
            So.. not really a fascist. 
             
            Your rhetoric is just misinformed and shows how ignorant you are of history and language. 
             
            You are a drone and a clown. 

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              September 9, 2018 at 2:07 am

              The first requirement is the feeling of victimization as caused by certain and specific others and that in Trumps followers we have in spades.

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              September 9, 2018 at 2:26 am

              The first requirement is the feeling of victimization as caused by certain and specific others and that in Trumps followers we have in spades; whether this victimization belief is caused by brown immigrants or by liberals and Democrats or by diversity, etc. Its all about the victimization.

              • Unknown Member

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                September 9, 2018 at 8:45 am

                Wow, the lack of self awareness on the the other side is staggering. 
                 
                The left is the party of the victim.
                 
                We on the right are constantly accused of
                 
                1) Racism. Whenever we disagree with the left — Racist!
                2) We are waging war on women because of course we hate our wives and daughters and mothers
                3) LGBTQ phobic 
                4) Hate poor people
                5) Hate Muslims
                5) Hate the Earth — want dirty air and water
                 
                etc
                 
                The Left exalts victim status. If you can claim victim status in some way — you are morally superior and your arguments are sacrosanct to the left. 
                 
                The Right is not obsessed with race, or genitalia, or sexual orientation, we don’t care. We want immigrants — legal ones. We want liberty — speech, personal defense, private property for all etc.
                 
                The goal of the right is a property owning Republic full of liberated individuals pursuing happiness. 
                 
                The goal of the left is a Statist Utopia where we all serve the state in whatever capacity is determined for us by our mastermind overlords in govt. This group was oppressed so we will take some from this group over here and distribute it to that group, etc. The left is a suffocating monolithic depressing eventually genocidal movement. The Right is about liberty and freedom. Maybe someday you will wake up. 

                • Unknown Member

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                  September 9, 2018 at 9:43 am

                  We on the right are constantly accused of

                  1) Racism. Whenever we disagree with the left — Racist!
                  2) We are waging war on women because of course we hate our wives and daughters and mothers
                  3) LGBTQ phobic
                  4) Hate poor people
                  5) Hate Muslims
                  5) Hate the Earth — want dirty air and water

                  Uhhhhhhhhhh yeah thats pretty much the trump base

                  • Unknown Member

                    Deleted User
                    September 9, 2018 at 9:49 am

                    Good luck with that attitude. So 60 million people who voted for Trump are racists. You are delusional. 

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      September 9, 2018 at 11:49 am

                      I said trumps base

                      Probably 30-40 million

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 9, 2018 at 2:20 pm

                      Youre entire base hates Muslims…. hates immigrants….thinks global warming is not real…..

                      As far as race no white nationalists are democrats

                      You can say what you want but look at reality

                      Thats the trump base it makes it easy to label you

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      September 9, 2018 at 5:08 pm

                      I like this definition of fascism by Robert Paxton, the American political scientist and author who focused on Vichy and Fascism. (And it fits Trump well):

                      Fascism is “a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.”

                      Paxton, Robert. The Anatomy of Fascism. Vintage Books. ISBN 1-4000-4094-9.

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      September 9, 2018 at 5:09 pm

                      [link=http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/donald-trump-a-fascist.html]http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/donald-trump-a-fascist.html[/link]

                      Therefore, instead of defining fascism with reference to an explicit political philosophy, Paxton argues that the ideology is best identified by the singular moods that it inspires. In The Anatomy of Fascism, Paxton defines the term with reference to its nine mobilizing passions the often-unstated premises that form the emotional lava that set fascisms foundations.

                      Under this analysis, [b]Trump is fascist to the extent that he inspires the feelings that propelled past fascist movements: A sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of any traditional solutions. The belief that ones group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external.Dread of the groups decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences.The need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary.The primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual to it.The need for authority by natural chiefs (always male), culminating in a national chieftain who alone is capable of incarnating the groups historical destiny, AND The superiority of the leaders instincts over abstract and universal reason.The right of the chosen people to dominate others without restraint from any kind of human or divine law, right being decided by the sole criterion of the groups prowess within a Darwinian struggle.The beauty of violence and the efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the groups success.[/b]

                      Perhaps the most accurate term for Trumps politics is simply dangerous. But to the extent that fascist alerts us to the unique dangers of his brand of demagoguery, it may be worth excusing its imprecision.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 9, 2018 at 5:22 pm

                      Any definition of fascism needs to center around victimization and the need to have a common enemy who his responsibile

                      It all grows from there

                      Look at nazi Germany Italy and Spain

                      That was the initial point of origin

                    • kaldridgewv2211

                      Member
                      September 10, 2018 at 6:13 am

                      A lot of Trumpiness can be found in these points.
                       
                       
                      1) Disarm the public 
                      –  So everytime I hear about fake news and only believe what me (DJT) because everything is fake.   That’s not trying to pull the wool over the public.
                      2) Assume control of the media 
                      – everything is fake news right?  Except Fox which he seems to like, or books that he plugs
                      3) Terrorize and kill dissidents 
                      – forcefully removes people from rallies, his supporters have been known to sucker punch protesters.
                      4) Increase size and scope of govt through regulation 
                      – massive military budget increase
                      5) Nationalize industry 
                      – pay offs to farmers, tariffs for steal workers.  Not such a free market for these industries.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 10, 2018 at 8:30 pm

                      you are struggling here. 
                       
                       

                    • heenadevk1119_462

                      Member
                      September 10, 2018 at 8:25 pm

                      Quote from dergon

                      [link=http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/donald-trump-a-fascist.html]http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/donald-trump-a-fascist.html[/link]

                      Therefore, instead of defining fascism with reference to an explicit political philosophy, Paxton argues that the ideology is best identified by the singular moods that it inspires. In The Anatomy of Fascism, Paxton defines the term with reference to its nine mobilizing passions the often-unstated premises that form the emotional lava that set fascisms foundations.

                      Under this analysis, [b]Trump is fascist to the extent that he inspires the feelings that propelled past fascist movements: A sense of overwhelming crisis beyond the reach of any traditional solutions. The belief that ones group is a victim, a sentiment that justifies any action, without legal or moral limits, against its enemies, both internal and external.Dread of the groups decline under the corrosive effects of individualistic liberalism, class conflict, and alien influences.The need for closer integration of a purer community, by consent if possible, or by exclusionary violence if necessary.The primacy of the group, toward which one has duties superior to every right, whether individual or universal, and the subordination of the individual to it.The need for authority by natural chiefs (always male), culminating in a national chieftain who alone is capable of incarnating the groups historical destiny, AND The superiority of the leaders instincts over abstract and universal reason.The right of the chosen people to dominate others without restraint from any kind of human or divine law, right being decided by the sole criterion of the groups prowess within a Darwinian struggle.The beauty of violence and the efficacy of will, when they are devoted to the groups success.[/b]

                      Perhaps the most accurate term for Trumps politics is simply dangerous. But to the extent that fascist alerts us to the unique dangers of his brand of demagoguery, it may be worth excusing its imprecision.

                       
                      Why do you always quote Bolsheviks?
                       
                      The ultimate irony.

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 11, 2018 at 4:08 am

                      Quote from Dr. ****er

                      Why do you always quote Bolsheviks?

                      The ultimate irony.

                      Oh look! Now it’s Bolsheviks not just Socialists that cigar/F@gan is mentioning You’ve graduated to the fancy form of “Commie.”
                       
                      Maybe you aren’t old enough to realize that your admiration for your idol, Mr Putin, was trained as a Bolshevik in the KGB.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 11, 2018 at 4:43 am

                      He just read a Breibart article

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 11, 2018 at 4:47 am

                      Quote from kpack123

                      He just read a Breibart article

                      Yeah, the other Putin admirers.

                    • heenadevk1119_462

                      Member
                      September 12, 2018 at 5:15 pm

                      Quote from Frumious

                      Quote from Dr. ****er

                      Why do you always quote Bolsheviks?

                      The ultimate irony.

                      Oh look! Now it’s Bolsheviks not just Socialists that cigar/F@gan is mentioning You’ve graduated to the fancy form of “Commie.”

                      Maybe you aren’t old enough to realize that your admiration for your idol, Mr Putin, was trained as a Bolshevik in the KGB.

                       
                      What’s funny is that you aren’t any good at honing in on the obvious. You probably have never read Solzhenitsyn either.

                    • heenadevk1119_462

                      Member
                      September 10, 2018 at 8:30 pm

                      Quote from spear

                      Good luck with that attitude. So 60 million people who voted for Trump are racists. You are delusional. 

                       
                      They are irredeemable. I tried, they can’t even have a relevant conversation, let alone a reasonable one, anymore.
                       
                      They’re on their back heels because they realized that they keep losing – now doubling down on stupid became doubling down on insane. Now they’ve become the true conspiracy theorists.
                       
                      Their political machinations were already tried by the murderers of last century. Mostly guys that they wear t-shirts or have paintings of … yes the same murderers. 

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 10, 2018 at 8:36 pm

                      Yeah, its unbelievable to me that educated hard working people can harbor these beliefs. I remember vaguely being indoctrinated in grade school that “republicans” were bad and racist and greedy. Such a silly narrative. Misses the entire point. To think that adults can still cling to this pablum is scary. They don’t understand that the real debate is between progressive/statist ideology and individual liberty. 

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 11, 2018 at 3:37 am

                      Nothing like having a fake conversation with yourself

                      Spear =cigar =figler

                      Why are hard core trumpers so fng weird

                    • heenadevk1119_462

                      Member
                      September 12, 2018 at 5:19 pm

                      Quote from kpack123

                      Nothing like having a fake conversation with yourself

                      Spear =cigar =figler

                      Why are hard core trumpers so fng weird

                       
                      Add another column to the insanity, I think this is at least the fifth or sixth time that kpack tries to say that there are multiple accounts out there from the same people, when the moderators also know this just isn’t so, and it’s so obvious since the mods can prove it. But another proof that he doesn’t deal in reality.

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 12, 2018 at 7:49 pm

                      Your point about Solzhenitsyn is what exactly. The question is did YOU read him? After all he never left Mother Russia.

                      Whats your point, cigar/f@gan? Do you understand anything or is your inexperienced youth in the way?

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 13, 2018 at 3:37 am

                      Figler has burner accounts

                      But he is really really really smart and no one can figure it out

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 13, 2018 at 3:47 am

                      Like Trump, really, really smart. Better than genius level. “To infinity and beyond!”
                       
                      And like the Russians out of St. Petersburg, multiple accounts all saying the same nonsense thing.
                       
                       

    • ruszja

      Member
      September 10, 2020 at 5:38 am

      Quote from dergon

      [link=https://politicalwire.com/2018/09/07/trump-accuses-woodward-of-making-up-quotes/]Trump Accuses Woodward of Making Up Quotes[/link]  
      President Trump took fresh aim at Bob Woodwards [link=https://amzn.to/2oPqXsU]forthcoming book[/link] on his presidency, calling it a scam and disputing quotes attributed to him, the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-dont-talk-the-way-i-am-quoted-trump-offers-fresh-criticism-of-woodward-book/2018/09/07/29d215ce-b292-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html?utm_term=.58a3d9e5d8fa]Washington Post[/link] reports.
      Said Trump: I dont talk the way I am quoted. If I did I would not have been elected President. These quotes were made up.
      He added: The author uses every trick in the book to demean and belittle. I wish the people could see the real facts and our country is doing great!

      _____

      That strategy worked well with the [i]Fire and Fury[/i] book … but this is Bob Woodward.  If it’s in quotes it’s a quote.

       
      Funny, after he got so mad about the first book, gotta wonder why he kept giving him interviews for the second one.

      • kayla.meyer_144

        Member
        September 10, 2020 at 6:01 am

        Ego.

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          September 10, 2020 at 8:03 am

          he can accuse woodward but it seems like woodward has the receipts.  Audio recording sounds pretty damning.

          • btomba_77

            Member
            September 10, 2020 at 8:10 am

            [link=https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/09/09/trump-bob-woodward-rage-411212]Rich Lowry[/link]: How to handle Woodward is a challenge for any White House, but putting Trump on the phone with him for hours was bound, ultimately, to be an exercise in masochism. By talking to Woodward at such length, Trump has, in effect, authored his own tell-all book to compete with those of his niece and his former fixer.
             
            If a [link=https://politicaldictionary.com/words/gaffe/]Kinsley gaffe[/link] is when a politician tells the truth, the Woodward book is a Kinsley revelation, confirming what everyone already knew to be true.
             

            • kayla.meyer_144

              Member
              September 10, 2020 at 8:22 am

              A “tell-all” book that shows us – again – what we’ve known each day as Trump does all these things out in the open, in broad daylight, and all in Trump’s own words.
               
              And yet he will not lose a single vote of his core supporters. You can see the results here on AM where the supporters defend every fault with whatabboutisms or “who cares” and “It upsets the Libtards” and every other excuse in the world.
               
              Competence is not the core’s 1st job requirement.

              • btomba_77

                Member
                September 10, 2020 at 9:53 am

                This read is so dead on for a subset of the AM membership.  From the never-trumpers at the Bulwark: 
                 
                [link=https://thebulwark.com/bob-woodward-and-the-nihilism-of-lol-nothing-matters-republicans/]https://thebulwark.com/bo…g-matters-republicans/[/link]
                 
                [b]Bob Woodward and the Nihilism of LOL Nothing Matters Republicans[/b]
                 
                [b]Real people are dying. Real people are hurting. And all of this matters.[/b]

                In the Age of Trump, a whole bunch of people on the right have taken the nobody cares pose and built it into an all-encompassing worldview. Instead of teasing political elites about how #nobodycares what they think, these lightworkers inside Conservative Inc. decided that [i]if[/i] political elites cared about something then [i]by definition[/i] it didnt matter. At all.
                The result was [link=https://twitter.com/bdomenech/status/1009814895246921728]LOL Nothing Matters Republicanism[/link]. A worldview where actions dont have consequences, truth is no different than lies, and the act of offending the sensibilities of the political class is an end unto itself.
                 
                This is the mindset that infected the Republican operative class and commentariat at every level, abnegating them of responsibility for anything, at all. It has perpetuated a mass delusion in which the president of the United States exists in a reality that is divorced from the world they inhabit, because they have already decided that nothing he does matters. Why? Because the political elites care about it.
                [b]
                [/b]

                 
                Republicansand ostensibly pro-life Trump apologistswould have you believe that nobody cares about the words and actions of the countrys elected president which resulted in mass death of their fellow citizens.
                 
                For these nihilists, the Gospel of Nothing Mattering is so deep-seated that they have made it both an irrefutable political reality and a moral imperative.
                 
                Its important to say, out loud, that they are wrong.
                 

                 
                But maybe weve all been broken by politics and the internet, because we shouldnt even be talking about the political impacts of this.
                 
                We should be talking about the insane fact that there is a recording of the president saying how dangerous this pandemic was at the same time he was lying to the American public and telling them not to worry about it because it was going to disappear like a miracle.
                 
                In any normal time, a revelation like this would trigger the presidents resignation, not because of the politics, but because of the moral outrage.
                 
                It should go without saying but apparently it cannot:
                If ever there was a time when something mattered in our politics, it would be at a moment when the leader of the free world is a dangerous and unfit liar who is adrift amidst a historic crisis. This is a time for caring. A time when things matter. A time when you can measure the real world impact in body bags.
                 
                Times like these dont call for ironic distance or smug dismissiveness.
                People are experiencing pain in earnest, they are uncertain about the future in earnest, they are worried about the madman at the helm in earnest.

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  September 10, 2020 at 10:19 am

                  Your subset just thinks how much popcorn they need as they cheer on & enjoy the ever growing numbers of infected and dead of COVID and the Libtards getting upset about the unnecessary deaths and incompetence of this administration in everything.

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    September 10, 2020 at 10:49 am

                    [link=https://www.vox.com/2020/9/10/21430570/trump-woodward-tapes-calm-no-panic]Trumps Trumps no panic Woodward spin would be easier to buy if his campaign werent all about panic[/link]
                     
                    Yep.

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      September 14, 2020 at 10:35 am

                      [b]Trumps Final Interview with Bob Woodward[/b][/h1]  
                       
                      [link=https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/trump-bob-woodward-final-phone-call/index.html]CNN[/link] has obtained excerpts of a 10-minute conversation between Bob Woodward and President Trump on August 14, the final interview for Woodwards book, [link=https://www.amazon.com/Rage-Bob-Woodward-ebook/dp/B0881XTWZW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=rage&qid=1600099786&sr=8-1][i]Rage[/i][/link], in which Trump peppered the veteran two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist with questions about the book and what exactly was in it.
                       
                      Just over an hour later, Trump tweeted [link=https://politicalwire.com/2020/08/14/trump-attacks-woodward-book-as-fake/]that Woodwards book was fake news.[/link]

                       

                    • Unknown Member

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                      September 14, 2020 at 11:21 am

                      Panic

                      What if I have a category 5 breast cancer

                      Is it ok if I tell the patient not to worry no big deal? Because I dont want to panic them

                      Ch as aces are I get sued if I do it

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      September 15, 2020 at 5:28 am

                      [h1][b]Trump Says He Read Woodwards Book Last Night … Boring[/b][/h1]  

                      President Trump told [link=https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1305841461460697088]Fox & Friends[/link] that he read Bob Woodwards book, [link=https://amzn.to/2RszHDR][i]Rage[/i][/link]: I actually got to read it last night. I read it very quickly, and it was very boring.
                      When asked if it was accurate, he said: Its okay, I mean, its fine.
                      He added: I read it. Its like lightweight reading.[/QUOTE]
                       

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 15, 2020 at 5:46 am

                      Well it’s about a lightweight president bull in the china shop story.
                       
                      “Where are the pictures?”

                    • kaldridgewv2211

                      Member
                      September 15, 2020 at 10:56 am

                      0% TRump read that book.  Ask him a question related to the book.

                    • kayla.meyer_144

                      Member
                      September 15, 2020 at 11:18 am

                      He’d have read the Bible too if it had pictures.
                       
                      Oh wait, his favorite book of the Bible was Two Corinthians, but could not answer why.
                       
                      Jesus looks Norwegian I’m sure.
                       
                       

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 11, 2018 at 6:34 am

     
    Donald  Trump (on tape in a conversation with Bob Woodward): I think youve always been fair.
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 15, 2018 at 9:06 am

    [link=https://politicalwire.com/2018/09/15/how-woodwards-book-differs-from-michael-wolfs/]How Woodwards Book Differs from Michael Wolfs[/link][/h2]  
    Bob Woodward was asked by [link=http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/bob-woodward-interview-fear.html]Olivia Nuzzi[/link] whether he found [link=https://amzn.to/2Oqmb0a][i]Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House[/i][/link] by Michael Wolf to be as credible book as his own, [link=https://amzn.to/2xiynJm][i]Fear: Trump in the White House[/i][/link].
     
     
    Said Woodward: I mean, as they say, I think it got the sociology largely right. The relationships and so forth. But 50 years from now whats going to be important about the Trump presidency is what he does or doesnt do. And if Im right, as I believe I am, its a nervous breakdown.
     
    He elaborated: Things are not connected. There is not there is impulse, decisions. I think that the most ardent Trump supporter could read the book and not feel comfortable about the management and the staying the course. Theres not a team. You know, its a team of predators, or people who just disagree with the president.

     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      September 16, 2018 at 2:07 pm

      The way I think Woodward has them dead to rights in in his note keeping. Team Trump will shout about how things aren’t true and it’s a fake book, however, Woodward said he’ll play the tapes if the person agrees. I don’t see many takers in the WH that will want Woodwards notes/tapes dumped to the public.

      • JAMELLESEABURY_446

        Member
        September 16, 2018 at 7:56 pm

        1) Racism. Whenever we disagree with the left — Racist! 
        “There are fine people on both sides” with an inability to acknowledge that white supremacists have no place in a civilized democracy. “Black athletes should stand for the anthem” even though they kneel because of institutionalized violence perpetrated by police and imprisoned at far greater rates.
        2) We are waging war on women because of course we hate our wives and daughters and mothers.
        “You can grab them by the pussy.” Select judges from heritage foundation that believe rowe v wade should be overturned. “Defund planned parenthood.” 
        3) LGBTQ phobic 
        When the cake baker refused to serve gay couples on religious grounds and was found to be legal by SCOTUS it was all over fox and breitbart. Bathroom bills occur only in states with republican held govt. 
        4) Hate poor people 
        Tax bill had lapsing tax benefits for small businesses while corporate tax rate was made permanent. Just recently, work requirements in Arkansas have kicked tens of thousands off of medicaid. “Eliminate entitlements” is a resounding phrase in the platform. They failed to fund CHIP for awhile before relenting in omnibus. Weakened ACA with goal of ending govt subsidized health plans. Some have suggested GOP intend to slash medicare and medicaid to help pay for tax break to wealthy corporations but it hasn’t happened yet. 
        5) Hate Muslims 
        Muslim Ban. It was halted initially by courts and appealed over and over by the trump administration. 
        5) Hate the Earth — want dirty air and water  
        Withdrawal from Paris Climate Accords. Decrease national monument land area to permit use by energy companies. “Clean” coal. Complete denial of the very existence of climate change or in some cases just denial that it’s a man made phenomenon. 

        • JAMELLESEABURY_446

          Member
          September 16, 2018 at 8:10 pm

          I always hear things like “these liberals are overreacting.” I think the direction this country has gone is alarming. With every presidency there are positive aspects including Trump, however I view this presidency as overwhelmingly negative with a complete lack of respect for the tenets of our democracy. Constant attacks on govt institutions that don’t agree with him(all intelligence agencies and the DOJ). Probable election resulting from help from a foreign adversary. Leagues of corruption and cronyism while at the same time shouting “Drain the Swamp.” Constant lying to the American people, ventriloquist press secretary instead of attending press briefings, and denouncing the press as “fake news” because they are critical of him? There’s a reason Trump hasn’t given an interview outside of softball foxnews. he couldn’t stand up to an iota of scrutiny. This shit is all going to come to a head. He’s going to be ousted from the presidency and America is going to be far better off. My greatest fear is that he refuses to leave and does more damage than he has already done. 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 10, 2020 at 3:56 am

    Second verse, same as the first….
     
    [i]Rage[/i]
     

     
    Lindsey Graham apparently brokered the initial Trump meetings with Woodward in the White House with aides present. (Which has now caused Tucker Carlson to go after Graham … a nice little side treat [link=https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1303879572933419008]https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1303879572933419008[/link] )
     
    But then Trump decided he could spin Woodward …so instead of coordinating future interviews with the WH comm staff he gave Woodward his cell phone number and did 18  one-on-one interviews.

    • Unknown Member

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      September 10, 2020 at 3:57 am

      Imagine if on February 7 2020

      We had a president who would have warned the country that Covid could be pretty bad

      -started to ramp up basic dependable testing

      -restocked our PPE

      -made a plan to protect the elderly

      Imagine where wed be right now

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 10, 2020 at 4:48 am

    [h1]Trump Is at War with the Shallow State[/h1]  
    [link=https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/09/10/trump-war-shallow-state-411377]John Harris[/link]: For years, President Donald Trump and his allies have warned about his adversaries in the Deep State. The phrase evokes images of anonymous officials with hidden motives buried deep in the government.
    Recent days have made it clearer than ever that the real hazard to Trump is actually the Shallow State. The people saying mean things about Trump arent lurking in the shadows. They are well-known names whom Trump recruited to work by his side. Their motives arent mysterious. They are obvious: A transactional president encourages transactional behavior in his midst. These sources have shocking stories to tell, but no longer any genuinely surprising ones.

    “The plot is playing out now in familiar ways. Prominent people typically went to work for Trump thinking he seems like a jerk but, hey, he was elected, after all. So they calculated that maybe hes not so bad and that the compensations in power and status of an important job were[b] [/b]worth the trade. They believed the Republic would be better off with their wise counsel helping curb Trumps worst instincts. Once there, they discovered that the president is more self-absorbed and less tethered to public interest than they had previously imagined. Having been lured into the inner circle to enhance their reputations, they fearoften with good reasonthat they are leaving soiled by Trumps splatter.”

    “In some cases, one suspects that loathing of Trump is merged with self-loathing for investing hope in Trump or ever believing that joining his circle on his terms would be a worthwhile transaction.”
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 10, 2020 at 5:01 am

    Every president does a Bob Woodward book and then later comes to regret it.
    Karl Rove, on [link=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/karl-rove-woodward-book-trump-downplaying-coronavirus]Fox News[/link].
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 9, 2021 at 5:25 am

    Former Trump aide Stephanie Grisham has quietly written [link=https://amzn.to/3DZgmB7]a top-secret memoir[/link] of her four years in Donald Trumps White House, and a publishing source says shell reveal surprising new scandals, [link=https://www.axios.com/scoop-the-most-dangerous-trump-expose-eb3a05e1-05d8-4b04-be38-a159a4f58713.html]Axios[/link] reports.
     
    Said one former West Wing colleague: When I heard this, all I could think about was Stephanie surrounded by a lake of gasoline, striking a match with a grin on her face.
     
    Said another: Grisham knows where all the bodies are buried because she buried a lot of them herself.
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 15, 2021 at 7:18 am

    [link=https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/09/15/scoop-grisham-texts-cast-doubt-on-book-claim-494334]Politico[/link] 

    [b]Grisham’s self-serving claims in her book already being put in doubt by newly revealed text messages

    [/b]

    [b]TEPHANIE GRISHAM[/b] [link=https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/09/13/grisham-dishes-on-melania-494293]writes in her upcoming book[/link] that she did not believe that the election was stolen and tried to convince [b]MELANIA TRUMP[/b] there was no grand conspiracy to deny her husband a second term. But a senior Trump aide provided text messages to Playbook suggesting that Grisham was sympathetic to and in one instance tried to assist efforts to stop the certification of the election in her home state of Arizona.
     
    [b]On Nov. 5,[/b] after Arizona A.G. [b]MARK BRNOVICH [/b][link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/04/sharpie-votes-arizona/]rebutted claims[/link] from [b]DONALD TRUMP [/b]supporters that voters who used Sharpies had their ballots improperly disqualified, Grisham forwarded [link=https://twitter.com/generalbrnovich/status/1324526305677750272?s=12]his tweet[/link] to a Trump aide and wrote of Brnovich, Told you. Useless.
     
    [b]The following week, on Nov. 12,[/b] Grisham texted the same aide [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/12/brnovich-arizona-attorney-general-trump/]with a WaPo report[/link] about Brnovich telling Fox News there was no evidence of fraud that would change the results in Arizona. Such an ass, she wrote.
     
    [b]A month later, on Dec. 12,[/b] Grisham received a text from a lobbyist in Arizona, [b]GRETCHEN JACOBS.[/b] Jacobs wrote that she had spoken with [b]KAREN FANN,[/b] a top Republican in the state Senate, and asked her what would cause her to withhold the electors needed to certify the results. According to the text, Fann told Jacobs if we could prove fraud that would be a game-changer.

    [/QUOTE]
     

  • btomba_77

    Member
    October 24, 2022 at 3:59 am

    [h3][link=https://news.yahoo.com/well-sue-him-trump-claims-014050607.html]Trump Claims Bob Woodward Audiobook Interview Tapes ‘Belong to me'[/link][/h3]

    Weve already hired the lawyers to sue him, Trump told Fox News host [link=https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/donald-trump-herschel-walker-on-the-brian-kilmeade-show/id219258773?i=1000583456460]Brian Kilmeade Friday on his radio program[/link]. Bob Woodwards a very sleazy guy, he added of the famed Watergate journalist.

    Woodwards audiobook, The Trump Tapes: Bob Woodwards Twenty Interviews with President Trump is scheduled for release on Tuesday. It includes more than eight hours of the journalists 20 interviews with Trump over the years, interspersed with commentary from Woodward.
     
    Trump appeared to concede that Woodward was the one who set up the tapes and recorded the interviews, but insisted the rights to use the tapes belong to him.
     
    In many ways, I like the tapes, I insist on tapes, but I also say the tapes belong to me, Trump told Kilmeade. So that means Woodward has to get whatever deal he made, you know, well probably end up in litigation over it. Because we gave tapes for the written word, not tapes to sell, and thats always made clear, he said.
    [/QUOTE]
     

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      October 24, 2022 at 8:55 am

      I thought Woodward was supposedly just releasing the tapes and they could be listened to on Audible (with a trial I guess).  I was kind of waiting to see info from people who want to listen.  I would be of the opinion that if Bob Woodward actually gave a hoot about something other than the money or fame he’d have already made this stuff widely available for free. 
       
      Should be interesting.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    January 30, 2023 at 3:43 pm

    [h1][b]Trump Sues Journalist Bob Woodward[/b][/h1]  
     
    Former President Donald Trump is suing journalist Bob Woodward [link=https://amzn.to/3HIWwy7]for releasing recordings of interviews[/link] that he gave to the journalist in 2019 and 2020, claiming he never agreed to those tapes being shared with the public, [link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-30/trump-sues-journalist-bob-woodward-over-rage-book-interview-recordings]Bloomberg[/link] reports.
     
    In a lawsuit filed Monday against Woodward, Simon & Schuster Inc., and the publishers parent company Paramount Global, Trump claimed that although he had given Woodward consent to record their conversations for the sole purpose of a book, that didnt extend to packaging those recordings as an audiobook.