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  • Could we learn from Asians

    Posted by Melenas on November 8, 2020 at 10:10 am

    With all the race talks all over the country including Black Lives Matter, I pose a question to you all. 
     
    Can we learn from Asians and how theyve assimilated into the US?? The Chinese have been in the country for a long time working the railroads. They were Im sure pushed around and discriminated against for centuries. Asians worked in horrible working conditions, they were passed up for promotion, they were passed up for important offices, passed up for a business opportunity, passed up for a movie role, pulled to the side by cops, passed up for sports, made fun off…
     
    But we dont read about looting or massive protest burning down sections of town. Have they? Maybe I missed it. 
     
    Instead, they work hard quietly behind the scenes, taking it from the whiteman and now are starting to be in some important positions. It is far from equal but they are now in cabinet positions, senators and congressmen and even judges (ITO)? Some are even athletes playing with the black NBA. We had a half back president and half back female before a male Asian made it to the highest position in politics. No real leading Asian male actors (I dont consider Jackie Chan and his action stars to be real actors); contrast this to Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, Jamie Fox, Sidney P, Samual Jackson, etc. sooo many black leading male black actors. So they arent there yet. But again we dont see protest on the subject. 
     
    Did Asians ride the coat tails of other races like the blacks without shedding their own blood? Did not being militant help the Asians assimilate into the US culture? Does it help that there is whole continent of Asia that is progressing (as opposed to say Africa). Look at Hong Kong, Tokyo, Malaysia etc.. that are full of sky scrappers and modernization and compare to some of African countries. Could Asians be much more important in the US politics if they had been more aggressive like the blacks? Or would it have backfired? 
     
     
     

    arg2626 replied 3 years, 10 months ago 15 Members · 26 Replies
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  • btomba_77

    Member
    November 8, 2020 at 10:13 am

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    • Melenas

      Member
      November 8, 2020 at 10:17 am

      Not sure I understand the reference.

      Quote from dergon

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      • btomba_77

        Member
        November 8, 2020 at 10:21 am

        “In before the lock” (IBTL) is a common meme used on internet message boards.
         
        It implies that the thread is very likely to wind up closed by an administrator. 
         
         

        • Melenas

          Member
          November 8, 2020 at 10:33 am

          Ah ok. Thanks for the lesson. I thought it as about the movie, which Ive never seen. 
           
          Anyway, I hope it isnt shut. We should be able to openly discuss race issues without becoming a censored. 
           

          Quote from dergon

          “In before the lock” (IBTL) is a common meme used on internet message boards.

          It implies that the thread is very likely to wind up closed by an administrator. 

      • alyaa.rifaie_129

        Member
        November 8, 2020 at 10:35 am

        No leading Asian actors? How about Dev Patel, Henry Golding, Gemma Chan, Constance Wu, Ken Joeng, all of whom over the last few years have appeared in and had major box office hits. Dev Patels success alone is noteworthy especially based on his age and the hits he has appeared including 2009 Best Picture Oscar for Slum Dog Millionaire. While Patel was born in UK his parents are Gujarati Indian. 
         

        • Melenas

          Member
          November 8, 2020 at 10:40 am

          Those are some good names, but no where near the level of Morgan Freeman or other black actors. Dev and Henry might be getting close to the level of leading white male actors. 
           
          But the point is it took this long. Is that because Asian communities in general do not resort to protest? Where were these Asian male actors in the 80s (the time Eddie Murphy and other leading black actors were rising). 
           

          Quote from Ixrayu

          No leading Asian actors? How about Dev Patel, Henry Golding, Gemma Chan, Constance Wu, Ken Joeng, all of whom over the last few years have appeared in and had major box office hits. Dev Patels success alone is noteworthy especially based on his age and the hits he has appeared including 2009 Best Picture Oscar for Slum Dog Millionaire. While Patel was born in UK his parents are Gujarati Indian. 

          • radiologistkahraman_799

            Member
            November 8, 2020 at 11:10 am

            At least this should be moved to off topic, no?

            • leann2001nl

              Member
              November 8, 2020 at 11:24 am

              Whole continent of Asia is certainly not progressing while China is literally exterminating the Uighurs similar to Germany and Jewish people in WW2 era

              • Unknown Member

                Deleted User
                November 8, 2020 at 12:40 pm

                Nothing to see here. Merely another in a long list of Steve Urkel-style threads started by peehdee, just a harmless, naive radiologist trying to make conversation on AM.

                Dude, we’ve heard about model immigrants, bad hombres, antifa, BLM. Just leave people alone already.

                • Unknown Member

                  Deleted User
                  November 8, 2020 at 12:41 pm

                  Or pony up and start your own website.

                  • Dr_Cocciolillo

                    Member
                    November 8, 2020 at 1:32 pm

                    I think the thread is valid

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      November 8, 2020 at 2:12 pm

                      Nothing valid about it in Gen Rad, perhaps in Off-topic.

                      Still, I know I’m not speaking for only myself when, as 1st-gen immigrant American trained rad, I say I’m just so exhausted from the racial discussion over the past several years all around us that pretends to be innocuous but instead is replete with dog whistles and gets hijacked to fan the flames of racism and racial acrimony. The biggest threat to me and my family right now is white supremacists.

                      Trump didn’t start it but he really dwelled on it. It’s depressing and distracting. I was hoping it would die down a bit (in this beginning post Trump era) but maybe I’m wrong. If you can go about your day and not worry about this stuff, good for you. Many of us are not that lucky.

                      I think I’m going to start a thread about Rad Partners or the impending 11% Medicare cut.

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      November 8, 2020 at 4:46 pm

                      What does this have to with radiology? Please move to another forum.

                    • g.giancaspro_108

                      Member
                      November 8, 2020 at 9:04 pm

                      John Cho is very good but underutilized.
                       
                      Take this to off topic.

                    • al.georgiev_193

                      Member
                      November 9, 2020 at 4:54 am

                      Theres nothing about radiology, radiologists, or even medicine in the original post. This means that its probably not relevant to a general radiology forum.

                    • jennycullmann

                      Member
                      November 9, 2020 at 4:45 pm

                      Haha, “the biggest threat to me”
                       
                      give me a break dude, that’s ridiculous
                       
                      what is this, msnbc

                    • mariacardei7_785

                      Member
                      November 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm

                      Quote from sandeep panga

                      Take this to off topic.

                      AGREE take this off of this forum

                    • JohnnyFever

                      Member
                      November 11, 2020 at 7:23 am

                      Never post again, peehdeeh

                    • Melenas

                      Member
                      November 11, 2020 at 8:31 am

                      Sorry that this has offended some of you. And admi please feel free to move as suggested by others.

                      But why is race only about blacks versus whites. There are other races and none of you think talking about asians is a good idea? Hush hush?

                    • jennycullmann

                      Member
                      November 11, 2020 at 8:48 am

                      You know why, because since it’s so obvious that no one is conspiring against anyone “systemically” – and asians as a group proves this – it destroys the narrative.
                       
                      Next thing they’ll tell you is that they CIA or “white people” are the ones actually pulling the trigger of all the criminals guns.

  • Unknown Member

    Deleted User
    November 11, 2020 at 9:10 am

    Asians are not a disadvantaged group in the USA. You know this. Hispanic, Black, and American Indian are.
     
    Asians are over-represented in Radiology. That should tell you something. LOL

    • jennycullmann

      Member
      November 11, 2020 at 8:05 pm

      You didn’t counter the point. It would also be fun if you talk about the NFL and NBA, then, Dr. Egalitarian.

      • mariana.gonzalez_122

        Member
        November 11, 2020 at 8:18 pm

        Also short people. Underrepresented, but then they got no reason to live

        • ariesanurhani_334

          Member
          November 12, 2020 at 7:19 am

          Yes asians are overrepresented in radiology and medicine. Are you suggesting that we should do less with asians in the field then?

        • Dr_Cocciolillo

          Member
          November 12, 2020 at 9:13 am

          I wish I had those quick twitch fibers to play professional sports.

        • arg2626

          Member
          November 12, 2020 at 9:56 am

          Quote from touchingcotton

          Also short people. Underrepresented, but then they got no reason to live

           
          Reminds me of the Bene Theilax. Completely blended in, doesn’t stand out in a crowd. But, at this point already controlled most of the known universe.