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  • Control of the Senate 2020

    Posted by btomba_77 on July 11, 2020 at 3:43 pm

    Currently 53-47 with GOP control.
     
    Dems need to pick up 3 seats if Biden wins, 4 seats if he loses.
     
    [link=https://www.rollcall.com/2020/07/11/rating-changes-democratic-control-of-senate-more-likely-because-of-trump/]https://www.rollcall.com/2020/07/11/rating-changes-democratic-control-of-senate-more-likely-because-of-trump/[/link]
     
    Roll Call makes ratings changes today, now saying Dems likely to take control..
    [b]Rating changes: Democratic control of Senate more likely because of Trump[/b][/h2] [b]Alaska, South Carolina seats in play; McSally an underdog[/b][/h3]

    Some states, such as Colorado, Arizona, Maine and North Carolina, have been [link=https://www.rollcall.com/2019/11/04/the-10-most-vulnerable-senators-in-2020-republicans-play-defense/]competitive for the entire cycle[/link]. But previously lower-tier contests in Iowa, Montana and Georgia are now hosting neck-and-neck Senate races. And Kansas, Texas, and even Alaska and South Carolina cant be considered solid for Republicans anymore. That gives Democrats more than one legitimate path.
     
    Democratic challengers continue to raise [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/us/politics/democrats-senate-fundraising.html]money at astounding rates[/link], but arguably the biggest factor in boosting Democratic chances is the president [link=https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/here-s-how-trump-underperforming-2016-n1044256]underperforming his 2016 totals[/link] by 8-12 points or more. For example, Trump won Montana by 20 points four years ago, but the presidential race is [link=https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/montana/]likely within the margin of error[/link] today.
     
     

    … the Arizona Senate race rating moves to Tilt Democratic from Toss-up as Martha McSally joins Colorados Cory Gardner as the two Republican senators in races where Democrats currently have the advantage. Maines Susan Collins probably isnt too far behind them. 
     

    GOP Sens. Joni Ernst of Iowa and Steve Daines of Montana join Collins and North Carolinas Thom Tillis in the Toss-up category as they are in tight races with their challengers and the presidential race is close at the top of the ballot. Similarly, as Georgia takes shape as a legitimate presidential battleground, the Senate races look more vulnerable for Republicans, with Sen. David Perdues reelection shifting to Tilt Republican and the other GOP seat, currently held by appointed Sen. Kelly Loeffler, moving to Lean Republican. 
     
    As Trump struggles in Texas with multiple growing suburban areas, GOP Sen. John Cornyn cant take anything for granted. The Senate race in the Lone Star State is now rated Lean Republican, from Likely Republican. And both Sens. Dan Sullivan of Alaska and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina are in competitive races, with rating shifts from Solid Republican to Likely Republican. Its increasingly difficult to rate Kentucky as Solid Republican when GOP outside groups need to spend $15 million or more defending Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, but that rating remains unchanged for now, like Collins race in Maine.
     
    With those changes, the overall Senate battlefield tilts even more in favor of Democrats, with a dozen vulnerable GOP seats and just two vulnerable Democratic ones Gary Peters in Michigan, which remains Lean Democratic, and Doug Jones in Alabama, which stays Lean Republican. That means Democrats just need to win five of the 14 competitive seats to control the Senate if Bidens vice president can cast tiebreaking votes. 

     

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  • btomba_77

    Member
    July 11, 2020 at 3:44 pm

    UVA Center for Politics current map:
     
    [link=http://crystalball.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/][link=http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2020-senate/]http://centerforpolitics….ystalball/2020-senate/[/link][/link]
     
    [img]http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/2020_07_09_Senate_Ratings_600.png[/img]
     
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      July 12, 2020 at 7:55 am

      [link=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NdvAi60uPh_3x7OMA1S_ZtFCMBB7y8X_/view]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NdvAi60uPh_3x7OMA1S_ZtFCMBB7y8X_/view[/link]
       
      Kelly +4 in AZ

      • btomba_77

        Member
        July 13, 2020 at 4:41 am

        [b]Senate GOP Confronts Fundraising Emergency[/b][/h1]  
        [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/13/senate-gop-fundraising-emergency-358864]Politico[/link]: Last month, the National Republican Senatorial Committee prepared a slideshow for Senate chiefs of staff full of bleak numbers about the partys failure to compete with Democrats on digital fundraising. For anyone not getting the message, the final slide hammered home the possible end result: a freight train bearing down on a man standing on the tracks.
         
        The slideshow painted a grim picture of the GOPs long-running problem. Republican senators and challengers lagged behind Democrats by a collective $30 million in the first quarter of 2020, a deficit stemming from Democrats superior online fundraising machine. Since then, Democrats fundraising pace accelerated further, with the partys challengers announcing huge second-quarter hauls last week, largely driven by online donors giving through ActBlue, the partys preferred fundraising platform.

         

        • clickpenguin_460

          Member
          July 13, 2020 at 5:58 am

          I’ll say 51 (R) – 49 (D) is most likely at this point, then 50-50.  Other outcomes would require either a big Trump or Biden wave.

          • btomba_77

            Member
            July 13, 2020 at 7:33 am

            I’m at about 50-50 with whoever controls the WH controls the Senate.
             

            • btomba_77

              Member
              July 13, 2020 at 7:34 am

              Bullock Leads (Within MoE) In Montana Senate Race[/h1]  
               
              A new [link=https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/bullock-most-popular-montana-politician-narrowly-leads-daines/]Public Policy Polling survey[/link] in Montana finds Steve Bullock (D) leading Sen. Steve Daines (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 46% to 44%.
              Bullock is the most popular politician in the state with a 50% to 38% approval.
               
              In the presidential race, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden, 51% to 42%.

               

              • satyanar

                Member
                July 13, 2020 at 12:27 pm

                Quote from dergon

                Bullock Leads (Within MoE) In Montana Senate Race  

                A new [link=https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/bullock-most-popular-montana-politician-narrowly-leads-daines/]Public Policy Polling survey[/link] in Montana finds Steve Bullock (D) leading Sen. Steve Daines (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 46% to 44%.
                Bullock is the most popular politician in the state with a 50% to 38% approval.

                In the presidential race, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden, 51% to 42%.

                 
                States like WY and MT have been affected significantly by the NRA in recent elections. I wonder if anything has changed?

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  July 13, 2020 at 2:07 pm

                  Bullock is pretty moderate on guns. Hes a gun owner and a hunter…. likes an assault weapon ban and *voluntary* buy backs but he is to the right of most Dems

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    July 14, 2020 at 5:00 am

                    [b]Mark Kelly Maintains Lead In Arizona[/b][/h1] [b]
                    [/b]
                     
                    A new [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507180-kelly-leads-mcsally-by-9-points-in-arizona]OH Predictive Insights poll[/link] in Arizona finds Mark Kelly (D) with a 9-point lead over Sen. Martha McSally (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 52% to 43%.

                     

                    • clickpenguin_460

                      Member
                      July 14, 2020 at 5:50 am

                      Kelly will likely win even if Trump squeaks a win in AZ.  He’s likeable, moderate, has a good story via his wife, and McSally has already lost before/done nothing to help herself.

  • Unknown Member

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    July 14, 2020 at 6:35 am

    Blue tsunami

    Independents are running from trump. They are sick of the daily drama and just want to return to a sense of normalcy

    This is going to be wipeout

    • btomba_77

      Member
      July 16, 2020 at 6:23 am

      [h3][link=https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-07-16/a-democratic-senate-is-looking-more-likely?srnd=premium]A Democratic Senate Is Looking More Likely[/link][/h3]

      {t}he longer this election cycle goes on, the better the prospects for Democrats have looked. Right now, they not only have raised more money, but actually have an apparent polling lead in all five of those toss-up races, according to the RealClearPolitics averages, although several states ([link=https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/mt/montana_senate_daines_vs_bullock-7063.html]especially Montana[/link]) have had limited surveys so far.
       
      The Cook Report lists five more contests, including Alabama, as leaning Republican. If Trump really is down by [link=https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/]nine points or so nationally[/link], then its possible Democrats could pick off one or two of them. And if Trump loses badly, the only lean-Democrat seat, Michigan, would be pretty safe; in fact, incumbent Democrat Gary Peters appears to have a [link=https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/mi/michigan_senate_james_vs_peters-6964.html]solid lead[/link] there for now. 
       
      The real blowout possibilities start to kick in if Trump slips a little more. Then it starts to look possible for Democrats to win four of the five lean-Republican seats, or even one or two of the four likely Republican contests. In that case, the possibility of an aggressive legislative agenda starts to look much more likely. 
       
      Ill emphasize again: Just as its possible that the presidential race remains where it is or gets somewhat better for Democrats, its also possible for Trump to rally and win  or, even if he comes up short, for Republicans to do well enough to win most of these seats. But the fact remains that Republicans are extremely vulnerable in this cycle; they are, after all, defending 23 seats, including several in closely contested or marginally Democratic states, while Democrats are defending only 12. So the map is tilted toward Democratic gains. And if its also tilted by a poor showing from the national Republican ticket, then things could get pretty ugly for Trumps party.
      [/QUOTE]
       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        July 17, 2020 at 5:46 am

        Its a House story but close enough….

        20 House Races Move Towards the Democrats-

        Cook Political Report: President Trumps abysmal polling since the pandemic began is seriously jeopardizing down-ballot GOP fortunes. We may be approaching the point at which dozens of House Republicans will need to decide whether to cut the president loose and run on a check and balance message, offering voters insurance against congressional Democrats moving too far left under a potential Biden administration.

        This week, were shifting our ratings in 20 races, all reflecting movement towards Democrats.

        • Unknown Member

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          July 17, 2020 at 6:05 am

          Tsunami

          • kaldridgewv2211

            Member
            July 17, 2020 at 10:26 am

            Still need to keep on the gas. McConnell needs to go.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              July 17, 2020 at 10:41 am

              Quote from DICOM_Dan

              Still need to keep on the gas. McConnell needs to go.

               
              A new [link=https://amymcgrath.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Polling-Memo-07-16.pdf]Garin-Hart-Yang (D) poll[/link] in Kentucky finds Sen. Mitch McConnell (R) leading challenger Amy McGrath (D) in the U.S. Senate race, 45% to 41%.

              • btomba_77

                Member
                July 18, 2020 at 1:17 pm

                Its come to this for Republicans straining to defend their Senate majority in Novembers elections: Theyre air-dropping millions of dollars into races in Alabama, Kentucky and other red states where Donald Trump coasted during his 2016 presidential election triumph, the [link=https://apnews.com/269c5a18f098ec93e8a63fc460a78e0d]AP[/link] reports.

            • clickpenguin_460

              Member
              July 18, 2020 at 1:37 pm

              Quote from DICOM_Dan

              Still need to keep on the gas. McConnell needs to go.

               
              Did you say the same thing about Harry Reid?  Same tactics used by both and Mr. Reid was the one to first blow up the filibuster enabling McConnell to get all of the judges through.  Don’t act all sanctimonious like McConnell is some evil man.  Once Dems have control again, they will do the same.

              • kaldridgewv2211

                Member
                July 18, 2020 at 8:39 pm

                Trying to recall when Harry blocked a SCOTUS appointment.

                McConnel is a garbage human being. As a senator and his personal life.

                • Unknown Member

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                  July 18, 2020 at 8:53 pm

                  The sooner Pinochet comes, the better.

  • clickpenguin_460

    Member
    July 19, 2020 at 7:32 am

    Quote from DICOM_Dan

    Trying to recall when Harry blocked a SCOTUS appointment.

    McConnel is a garbage human being. As a senator and his personal life.

     
     
    So you’re just an unabashed partisan then.  That’s fine. 
     
    I’m not saying what McConnell did was right (it wasn’t), but Reid/Dems would have done the same thing as illustrated by Biden’s speech in 1992 saying as much.  Reid and McConnell are very similar in the way they conduct Senate business and Reid removed the judicial filibuster, so be mad at him.

    • heenadevk1119_462

      Member
      July 19, 2020 at 3:06 pm

      Reality, truth and logic don’t matter to them, Cubsfan

      • clickpenguin_460

        Member
        July 19, 2020 at 3:06 pm

        You might be right.  I just want to hope that isn’t so.  Not sure why I keep trying.

        • btomba_77

          Member
          July 23, 2020 at 3:59 pm

          Cook ratings changes for Senate races:

          Arizona: Toss up to lean Dem
          Georgia (class 2 seat): Lean GOP to toss up
          Iowa: Lean GOP to toss up
          Minnesota: Likely Dem to solid Dem
          New Mexico: Likely Dem to solid Dem

        • heenadevk1119_462

          Member
          July 24, 2020 at 7:56 am

          Quote from Cubsfan10

          You might be right.  I just want to hope that isn’t so.  Not sure why I keep trying.

           
          They are the same types that when in the gulags still can’t admit that the structure and system they supported had used them and thrown them away — even when starving and in cue for execution.

          • btomba_77

            Member
            July 24, 2020 at 10:27 am

            [link=https://www.gravismarketing.com/michigan-poll-results/]https://www.gravismarketing.com/michigan-poll-results/[/link]

            Gravis MI: 

            Peters +10 49/39

            PPP:  MI, ME, AZ

            [link=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Aj_jOKH2jEB3fi3JdW0snX5rVIhN1nna/view]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Aj_jOKH2jEB3fi3JdW0snX5rVIhN1nna/view
            [/link][link=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gfnY_jB5oYBFq7u9tPWolKsUzrpd4XAj/view]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gfnY_jB5oYBFq7u9tPWolKsUzrpd4XAj/view
            [/link][link=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bovYI6yeunK2kGDEqKrz0UWBi2AlRNZz/view]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bovYI6yeunK2kGDEqKrz0UWBi2AlRNZz/view

            [/link]Gideon +5 over Collins 47/42
            Kelly +9   over McSally   51/42
            Cuningham +8 over Tillis  48/40

            • fahma066_701

              Member
              July 24, 2020 at 10:52 pm

              Dergon. How do you have this much time to post?  Do you work?

              • btomba_77

                Member
                July 25, 2020 at 4:17 am

                I work full time.  I have ADHD so I can’t attend to reading for more than 30-40 minutes at a blast.   So I pepper that with conversation and watching video links etc when staffing with residents/ fellows and with surfing and posting when working alone.    I keep a laptop open at my PACS station. 
                 
                It’s a strategy I have developed over years that makes me *more* clinically productive because I don’t get up and take a walk or go ot the cafeteria etc, which tends to become an even [i]longer[/i] break.
                 
                I would even go so far as to say that there is likely a very close correlation between my daily AM post count and the total number of studies read on any given day. … because that mean I am at the PACS station, not locked in meetings or doing biopsies or lollygagging trying to run a quick errand outside of the department or something. 
                 
                 
                 

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  July 25, 2020 at 2:01 pm

                  538 podcast discussed lay of the land for the Senate.
                   
                  consensus agreement that the “median expected outcome” is 50-51 democrats.  … a wave could bring 55.
                   
                   
                   

  • btomba_77

    Member
    July 25, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    [b]GOP Senators Suddenly Want to Debate [/b][/h1]  
     
    In Iowa, Sen. Joni Ernst (R) has challenged her Democratic competitor to six debates In North Carolina, Sen. Thom Tillis (R) pressed his Democratic opponent to accept five debates And in Maine, Sen. Susan Collins (R) declared that she wants to debate her opponent 16 times starting immediate, the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/as-pandemic-limits-scrutiny-gop-fears-lesser-known-democratic-candidates-will-steamroll-to-senate-majority/2020/07/24/e7087534-cde3-11ea-b0e3-d55bda07d66a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_pkcapitol-535pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans]Washington Post[/link] reports.
     
    Republicans acknowledge that this upends the usual debate about debates, in which an incumbent rarely wants to give the challenger the same platform. Incumbent senators are pleading with their lesser-known rivals to join them on debate stages, or Zoom, trying to elevate the profile of these Democrats.
    But they view this as a matter of necessity in a campaign in which Republicans are running into the head winds of President Trumps sagging poll numbers amid his stumbling response to the coronavirus pandemic.

     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      July 26, 2020 at 6:10 am

      [link=http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/26/rel1_az.pdf]http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/26/rel1_az.pdf
      [/link][link=http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/26/rel1_fl.pdf]http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/26/rel1_fl.pdf
      [/link][link=http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/26/rel1_mi.pdf]http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/26/rel1_mi.pdf[/link][link=https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/politics/cnn-poll-biden-trump-florida-arizona-michigan/index.html]

      [/link]SSRS/CNN Battleground:

      Mark Kelly +7 in the AZ Senate Race.
      Gary Peters +16 in MI Senate race

  • btomba_77

    Member
    July 26, 2020 at 6:13 am

    [link=http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/NBC-News_Marist-Poll-AZ-NOS-and-Tables_202007231249.pdf]Marist College AZ Poll:

    [/link]Kelly +12    53/41

  • btomba_77

    Member
    July 26, 2020 at 10:59 am

    [h1][b]The Senate State of Play, Republican Perspective[/b][/h1]  
     
    NRSC executive chair Kevin McLaughlin [link=https://www.nrsc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/100-Days-Memo-7.25.20-FINAL.pdf]sent a memo[/link] on the state of play for U.S. Senate races: There are currently eight Senate races that are within the margin of error. Candidly, considering all that is going on, that is nothing short of a miracle for Republicans.
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      July 27, 2020 at 9:54 am

      [b]Cook Political report: Almost 100 Days Out, Democrats Are Favored to Take Back the Senate[/b]

      With just over 100 days until Election Day, the political climate appears dire for Republicans across the board. President Trump is the decided underdog against former Vice President Joe Biden in our [link=https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/new-july-2020-electoral-college-ratings]Electoral College ratings[/link] and Democrats could end up [link=https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/house/house-overview/house-rating-changes-20-races-shift-towards-democrats]expanding their House majority[/link]. That leaves the Senate as Republicans’ firewallthe final barrier to unified control for Democrats in 2021. While GOP incumbents are trying to run races independent of the president, if Trumps polling numbers remain this dismal come November, thats an unenviable and likely unsuccessful strategy, according to several top party strategists. As of now, Democrats are a slight favorite to win the Senate majority.

      Something remarkable would have to happen for Republicans to still have control of the Senate after November, remarked one GOP pollster. Its grim. Theres just so many places where Democrats either have the upper hand or are competitive in states that six months ago we wouldnt have considered at risk.

      [link=https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/senate-overview/almost-100-days-out-democrats-are-favored-take-back-senate]https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/s…ke-back-senate[/link]
      __________________

      • btomba_77

        Member
        July 27, 2020 at 7:16 pm

        [h1]Perdue Makes Jewish Opponents Nose Bigger In Ad[/h1]  
        Sen. David Perdue (R-GA) ran a [link=https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/?active_status=all&ad_type=political_and_issue_ads&country=US&impression_search_field=has_impressions_lifetime&id=3165502920193801&view_all_page_id=159597424207730]Facebook ad[/link] targeting his Jewish election opponent, Jon Ossoff (D), that appeared to have been altered to make Ossoffs nose bigger, the [link=https://forward.com/news/national/451581/jon-ossoff-jewish-nose-david-perdue-antisemitic/]Forward[/link] reports.

        ____________

        [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509295-gop-senator-deletes-ad-that-showed-jewish-opponent-with-larger-nose]GOP senator deletes ad that showed Jewish opponent with larger nose[/link]
        The Hill 
         

  • btomba_77

    Member
    July 28, 2020 at 4:02 am

    [link=https://morningconsult.com/2020/07/28/senate-presidential-polling-political-intelligence/]https://morningconsult.com/2020/07/28/senate-presidential-polling-political-intelligence/

    [/link][b]Morning Consult Senate:[/b]

    [img]https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2020/07/27181121/200727_Presidential-Senate-State-Polling_FULLWIDTH2.png[/img]

    [img]https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2020/07/27181145/200727_Trump-Republican-Senate-Polling_FULLWIDTH2.png[/img]

    [img]https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2020/07/27181133/200727_Senate-Polling-By-Party_FULLWIDTH2.png[/img]

    Less than 100 days from Election Day, Democrats are leading in key races that will help decide who controls the Senate in January, with few candidates on either side of the aisle running ahead of the ticket-topping presidential contest.
    Thats the main finding from new Morning Consult [link=https://morningconsult.com/product/political-intelligence/]Political Intelligence[/link] polling of likely voters in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan and North Carolina conducted July 17-26. Democratic candidates lead in all of those races save for Georgia, where Republican Sen. David Perdue leads Democrat Jon Ossoff within the margin of error, with the incumbent running alongside President Donald Trump and his challenger polling behind former Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee. (See [link=http://morningconsult.com/form/july-presidential-battleground-state-polling]here[/link] for a broader look at how the candidates are performing in a dozen battleground states.)


    With the exception of Georgia, Senate Democratic candidates in the five states tested have an advantage with likely independent voters, including a 20-point lead for Cunningham in North Carolina and a 25-point lead for Kelly in Arizona. 
    In Colorado, former Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) leads Sen. Cory Gardner (R) by 13 points among the swing voting bloc, part of an overall 6-point lead over the incumbent, 48 percent to 42 percent. Unlike Tillis, James and McSally, Gardner who is running ahead of the president statewide is not lacking significant support from Republican likely voters. His vote share among the base matches Hickenloopers with Democrats (87 percent) and is roughly the same as Trumps (85 percent) with Republicans. 
     
    In Georgia, Perdue leads Ossoff, 45 percent to 42 percent, backed with support from 88 percent of likely Republican voters (compared to Trumps 91 percent), and a 9-point advantage over Ossoff with the states likely independent voters (40 percent to 31 percent).
    [/QUOTE]
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      July 28, 2020 at 2:10 pm

      [h1][b]Gideon Leads Collins In Maine[/b][/h1]  
       
      A new [link=https://www.colby.edu/government/wp-content/uploads/sites/66/2020/07/Wave2Results_Corrected.pdf]Colby College/Social Sphere poll[/link] in Maine finds Sara Gideon (D) leading Sen. Susan Collins (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 44% to 39%.
      In the presidential race, Joe Biden leads Donald Trump statewide, 50% to 38%.
       
      Biden leads 55% to 35% in the states first congressional district and 45% to 41% in the second congressional district.
       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        July 29, 2020 at 4:44 am

        Lincoln Project

        [b]Trump Stooge[/b]

        [link=https://youtu.be/lSGXknNaYqU]https://youtu.be/lSGXknNaYqU[/link]

        • btomba_77

          Member
          July 29, 2020 at 9:29 am

          [link=https://twitter.com/TeamCollins207/status/1288115274105753603]https://twitter.com/TeamCollins207/status/1288115274105753603[/link]
           
          Susan Collins releases new “attack” ad against Gideon.
           
          It reads like an pro-Gideon spot.  She needs to fire her ad team.
           

          Among other things, the ad shows that Gideon has named several issues a top priority, including protecting the health and safety of our families and communities, lowering the cost of prescription drugs, and building an economy that works for everyone.

           
          Given that the ad highlighted Gideon taking very popular positions, many Twitter users joked that it almost seemed as though Collinss team was secretly making an ad for her opponent.

           

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            July 29, 2020 at 9:36 am

            Wow.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              July 30, 2020 at 6:59 am

              [b]U.S. Senate N.C. [/b]
               [link=https://cpapolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/NC_Poll_Results_2020-07-29.pdf]Cardinal Point Analytics (CardinalGPS)[/link]    Cunningham 43% Tillis 43%       EVEN

              [b]U.S. Senate  Mich. [/b]
               [link=https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-usa-swing-state-senate-and-governor-voting-intention-19-to-24-july/]Redfield & Wilton Strategies[/link] 811 LV      Peters 52% 35% James                Peters +17

              [b]U.S. Senate Ariz. [/b]
               [link=https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-usa-swing-state-senate-and-governor-voting-intention-19-to-24-july/]Redfield & Wilton Strategies[/link] 858 LV      Kelly 53% 35% McSally                 Kelly +18

              [b]U.S. Senate N.C. [/b]
               [link=https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-usa-swing-state-senate-and-governor-voting-intention-19-to-24-july/]Redfield & Wilton Strategies[/link] 919 LV     Cunningham 47% 36% Tillis           Cunningham +11

              • btomba_77

                Member
                August 1, 2020 at 5:39 am

                [b]U.S. Senate Minn. [/b]

                [link=https://giffords.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/MinnesotaResults2.pdf]Public Policy Polling*
                [/link] 1,218 V

                Smith 48% 39% Lewis

                Smith +9

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  August 2, 2020 at 8:54 am

                  [b]U.S. Senate GA[/b]

                  [link=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oa8SqHJAq6hBII_8LjgY0PjPwAgBWzpO/view]YouGov[/link] 1,101LV   

                   Ossoff43%/ 45%Perdue
                  [b]Perdue+2

                  ___________[/b]

                  [b]U.S. Senate N.C.[/b]

                  [link=https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jDu_IMRdUTbdmA-VfpP-neMT3-lYw969/view]YouGov[/link] 1,121LV

                  Cunningham48%/ 39%Tillis

                  [b]Cunningham+9[/b]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 3, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Susan Collins campaign has been running ads featuring supposed “regular Mainers” but they turn out to be state GOP officials and former Collins staffers.

    [link=https://twitter.com/SollenbergerRC/status/1289532942046449665?s=20]https://twitter.com/SollenbergerRC/status/1289532942046449665?s=20[/link]

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      August 3, 2020 at 9:16 am

      they also ran an ad that seemed like it was more of a promotion of her competitor than anything.  It was like of accusing her competitor (Gideon?) of having too many good priorities.
       
       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 3, 2020 at 10:56 am

        Quote from DICOM_Dan

        they also ran an ad that seemed like it was more of a promotion of her competitor than anything.  It was like of accusing her competitor (Gideon?) of having too many good priorities.

         
        Yeah….. the Collins campaign needs to fire whoever made that ad

        • btomba_77

          Member
          August 3, 2020 at 12:34 pm

          [link=https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/montana-2020-trump-holds-strong-as-biden-coalesces-support]https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/montana-2020-trump-holds-strong-as-biden-coalesces-support

          [/link]
          [b][color=”#222222″]Emerson College   Montana[/color][/b]

          [color=”#222222″]Trump +9 over Biden[/color]

          [color=”#222222″]Daines +6 over Bullock[/color]

          • btomba_77

            Member
            August 4, 2020 at 5:47 am

            [link=https://morningconsult.com/2020/08/04/senate-presidential-polling-alabama-kentucky-sc-texas/]https://morningconsult.com/2020/08/04/senate-presidential-polling-alabama-kentucky-sc-texas/

            [/link]Morning Consult: 
            [h1]Republicans Lead Senate Races in Alabama, Kentucky and Texas, With South Carolina within MoE[/h1]  
            [ul][*] Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) leads Democrat Amy McGrath by 17 points, 53% to 36%.
            [*] Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Democrat Jaime Harrison are statistically tied, 44% to 43%.
            [*] Vulnerable Sen. Doug Jones (D) trails Tommy Tuberville, 35% to 52%
            [/ul]  

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              August 4, 2020 at 7:00 am

              Can we judge these people by who they elect?  If Mitch wins does that mean the people of KY are two headed snakes.
               
              Like to see Jamie Harrison take out Lindsey.  He got the Obama endorsement yesterday.  I think he already had Clyburn.
               
              Tommy Tuberville is an idiot.

              • Unknown Member

                Deleted User
                August 4, 2020 at 7:28 am

                Id like to see James Harrison take out Lindsey Graham

                • clickpenguin_460

                  Member
                  August 4, 2020 at 8:23 am

                  I would be pretty surprised if McConnell, Graham, or Tuberville loses.  I don’t think those are the races most likely to go Dem…  Gardner has no chance, for example.  Collins is 50/50.   Normally, Bullock would be strong but I think Montana is going to go all Red since it’s a Presidential year ticket.

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    August 6, 2020 at 6:21 am

                    [h1]Polls for Key Senate Battlegrounds[/h1]  
                    [b]New Data for Progress polls in four important Senate battlegrounds: [/b]
                    [ul][*][link=http://filesforprogress.org/datasets/2020/8/progressive-senate-project/DFP_North%20Carolina_8_20_xtabs.pdf]North Carolina[/link]: Cunningham 49%, Tillis 41%[*][link=http://filesforprogress.org/datasets/2020/8/progressive-senate-project/DFP_Maine_8_20_xtabs.pdf]Maine[/link]: Gideon 48%, Collins 45%[*][link=http://filesforprogress.org/datasets/2020/8/progressive-senate-project/DFP_Iowa_8_20_xtabs.pdf]Iowa[/link]: Greenfield 45%, Earnst 43%[*][link=http://filesforprogress.org/datasets/2020/8/progressive-senate-project/DFP_Arizona_8_20_xtabs.pdf]Arizona[/link]: Kelly 50%, McSally 40% [/ul]  

                    • clickpenguin_460

                      Member
                      August 6, 2020 at 7:15 am

                      Monmouth had Ernst +1 yesterday also.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    New [link=https://poll.qu.edu/south-carolina/release-detail?ReleaseID=3670]Quinnipiac polls[/link] of some interesting U.S. Senate races:
    [ul][*]South Carolina: Graham 44%, Harrison 44%[*]Maine: Gideon 47%, Collins 43%[*]Kentucky: McConnell 49%, McGrath 44% [/ul] Said pollster Tim Malloy: Big political names. Huge political stakes. High anxiety for the GOP. Three GOP Senators who easily won their last reelection bids are looking over their shoulders less than three months from Election Day.
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 7, 2020 at 9:23 am

      [link=http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2020-senate/]http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2020-senate/

      [/link]UVA Center for Politics Senate Map update 8/5:

      [img]http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020_08_05_Senate_Ratings_600.png[/img]

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 10, 2020 at 10:36 am

        [b]Gideon Leads In Maine[/b][/h1]  
        A new [link=https://www.termlimits.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Maine-Toplines-July-2020.pdf]RMG Group survey[/link] in Maine finds Sarah Gideon (D) leading Sen. Susan Collins (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 48% to 41%.

         

        • btomba_77

          Member
          August 11, 2020 at 6:50 am

          [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511401-lincoln-project-expands-gop-target-list-winning-trump-ire]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511401-lincoln-project-expands-gop-target-list-winning-trump-ire

          [/link]
          Lincoln Project expands GOP target list, winning Trump ire[/h1]

          Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings reveal The Lincoln Project has also targeted more than a half-dozen other Republicans up for reelection in 2020, including Sens. [link=https://thehill.com/people/cory-gardner]Cory Gardner[/link] (Colo), [link=https://thehill.com/people/martha-mcsally]Martha McSally[/link] (Ariz.), [link=https://thehill.com/people/lindsey-graham]Lindsey Graham[/link] (S.C.), [link=https://thehill.com/people/sen-thom-tillis]Thom Tillis[/link] (N.C.), [link=https://thehill.com/people/joni-ernst]Joni Ernst[/link] (Iowa), [link=https://thehill.com/people/john-cornyn]John Cornyn[/link] (Texas) and Senate Majority Leader [link=https://thehill.com/people/mitch-mcconnell]Mitch McConnell[/link] (Ky.).
           
          The group is running ads in support of Democratic Senate candidates [link=https://thehill.com/people/steve-bullock]Steve Bullock[/link] in Montana and Al Gross in Alaska, who are seeking to unseat Sens. [link=https://thehill.com/people/steve-daines]Steve Daines[/link] (R-Mont.) and [link=https://thehill.com/people/daniel-sullivan]Dan Sullivan[/link] (R-Alaska), respectively.

          Reed Galen, a strategist for the group, told The Hill that the Senate map has expanded and that off-cycle Senate Republicans shouldnt believe their day wont come. The Lincoln Project has invested very small amounts in ads going after Sens. [link=https://thehill.com/people/marco-rubio]Marco Rubio[/link] (R-Fla.), [link=https://thehill.com/people/ted-cruz]Ted Cruz[/link] (R-Texas), [link=https://thehill.com/people/james-inhofe]James Inhofe[/link] (R-Okla.) and [link=https://thehill.com/people/marion-mike-rounds]Mike Rounds[/link] (R-S.D.).

          Galen said the group is also taking a look at the House, with a potential announcement on that front coming soon. In addition, The Lincoln Project is planning a substantive and robust effort to encourage voters to send in mail or absentee ballots.[/QUOTE]
           

          • clickpenguin_460

            Member
            August 11, 2020 at 7:10 am

            I can understand “Never Trumpers” going after Trump, but I find they lose their credibility as anything other than Dem partisans if they are going after all of these Republican Senators – some of which are pretty traditionally Republican.

            • kaldridgewv2211

              Member
              August 11, 2020 at 8:42 am

              just based on the list above these are people who are lampreys on the great orange shark.  Canadian Ted Cruz’ wife was called ugly and he still kisses the ring.  Little Marco used to speak out against Trump and now he kisses the ring.   You can play a highlight reel of the things Lindsey said about Trump that are massively negative, and now he kisses the ring.  They all deserve the blasting they’re receiving from Lincoln project and others.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              August 11, 2020 at 9:15 am

              Quote from Cubsfan10

              I can understand “Never Trumpers” going after Trump, but I find they lose their credibility as anything other than Dem partisans if they are going after all of these Republican Senators – some of which are pretty traditionally Republican.

              they can answwer:
               
              [link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/05/defeat-trump-republican-senate-enablers-lincoln-project-column/3291032001/]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/08/05/defeat-trump-republican-senate-enablers-lincoln-project-column/3291032001/[/link]
               
              [b]Why Trump’s Republican Senate enablers must be ousted this fall:[/b]
               
              “It is hard for any serious student of history to deny the common themes of McCarthyism and Trumpism. Both are constructed on a foundation of us vs. them, suspicion of those who were not born in America, attempts to silence protest and dissent, and demonizing those who hold independent or unpopular beliefs.”
               
              “The Republican majority in the Senate has become nothing more than protection racket for a president who has repeatedly declared he would accept foreign assistance in his campaigns and was impeached for trying to get a foreign leader to help him win.”
               
              “Rather than strengthening their resolve to preserve the great ideal of America, Republican senators have become progressively more anemic in their response to this wannabe strongman of a president. They have become puny and faint-hearted, spineless and weak-willed. They have proven they are not worthy of the constitutional responsibilities bestowed upon them by their election to the esteemed United States Senate.”
               

               
              “There are no such heroic voices among the Republican senators up for reelection today.
              They have been cowed by this president. They have been silent when the country needs them to speak, weak when our nation needs their strength. And every one of them should expect to be held accountable one way or another. The Susan Collins ad will not be The Lincoln Project’s last one reminding voters of these Republican senators’ fealty and weakness.
              Voting against a bill that would have failed anyway, opposing a procedural motion and dismissing the presidents threatening tweets as jokes does not excuse their feebleness in face of the grave danger Trump poses.
              Elections are about leadership and accountability. Republicans will pay a price for lacking both.”
               
               

               

              • clickpenguin_460

                Member
                August 11, 2020 at 9:22 am

                Because Trump is a Republican and they are Republicans and they have supported some/most (depending on who) of his things, they are enablers?  What the heck are they supposed to do?  How the heck is Susan Collins a Trump enabler lol
                 
                Republicans are weak for sure but it’s more that they lack backbone to stand up to the Dems rather than Trump.  Dems shape the media and public narrative almost completely as the minority party.

                • Unknown Member

                  Deleted User
                  August 11, 2020 at 9:30 am

                  Stand up to Dems?

                  Does that mean twitter fights sticking up for the confederate flag and pandering to religious conservatives by holding a bible upside down in front of a church that he never attended

                  AWESOME

  • katiemckee84_223

    Member
    August 11, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    Jennifer Horn lol, dergon’s ADD back again

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 14, 2020 at 5:24 am

      [h1][b]Cory Gardners Pro-Trump Ad Only Seen Outside Colorado[/b][/h1]  
      Sen. Cory Gardner (R-CO) is running a new Facebook ad, touting his close relationship with President Trump but its only targeted to voters outside of Colorado, the [link=https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cory-gardner-donald-trump-senate-campaign-ad-colorado_n_5f358a9ac5b64cc99fe40abd]HuffPost[/link] reports.
       

  • mpezeshkirad_710

    Member
    August 15, 2020 at 4:21 am

    It’s going to be a triumvirate of Biden, Schumer, Pelosi.  Country is doomed.

    • btomba_77

      Member
      August 15, 2020 at 4:46 am

      Quote from Takayasu

      It’s going to be a triumvirate of Biden, Schumer, Pelosi.  Country is doomed.

      I am only confident of 1 of those in 2020 …. Pelosi.
       
      ____
       
      That said, the country will be fine if the GOP can find it’s way out of the cul-de-sac it has driven itself down.  The party has been heading that way for 20 years.  They saw the house at the end of the road in the distance and decided to tie a brick to the accelerator with Trump.
       
      It is becoming a party of white rural people in a nation that is growing browner and more urban.  In order to accommodate that white base, the Republicans are forced to take more extremist positions and adopt anti-democratic (small d) tactics like voter suppression.
       
      They already have a very difficult time winning the national popular vote.  How long they will have an intrinsic benefit from the electoral college and rural senate is unclear. (I have seen some analysis that the GOP could remain nearly entirely the white party … if they just get 5% more of the white vote they can hold the EC for 20 more years despite losing the popular … add on more aggressive voter suppression techniques and who knows …. but it makes coming back later a greater challenge)
       
       
      My hope is that the Republican party can find its way to being able to compete for a national majority of American citizens solely on the basis of ideas … where if we had a national mandatory vote it would come out about 50/50.   That probably meas making some kind of peace with immigration enough to win Latino and Asian votes. It also means getting back white college educated voters… that will require making some peace with science/climate etc.
       
       
       
       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 17, 2020 at 8:06 am

        [link=https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/south-carolina-senate/south-carolina-senate-moves-likely-lean-republican]Cook Political Report[/link]: [b]South Carolina Senate Moves From Likely to Lean Republican[/b]

        While there are still large hurdles that remain for Harrison to become the first Democrat elected to the Senate from South Carolina since 1998, its clear this race is becoming more competitive, and Graham faces an incredibly strong challenge.
         
        In the races in our Likely Republican column, this is also the one some national Republicans view as the more competitive. We are moving South Carolina from Likely to Lean Republican.
         

      • clickpenguin_460

        Member
        August 17, 2020 at 8:25 am

        Quote from dergon

        Quote from Takayasu

        It’s going to be a triumvirate of Biden, Schumer, Pelosi.  Country is doomed.

        I am only confident of 1 of those in 2020 …. Pelosi.

        ____

        That said, the country will be fine if the GOP can find it’s way out of the cul-de-sac it has driven itself down.  The party has been heading that way for 20 years.  They saw the house at the end of the road in the distance and decided to tie a brick to the accelerator with Trump.

        It is becoming a party of white rural people in a nation that is growing browner and more urban.  In order to accommodate that white base, the Republicans are forced to take more extremist positions and adopt anti-democratic (small d) tactics like voter suppression.

        They already have a very difficult time winning the national popular vote.  How long they will have an intrinsic benefit from the electoral college and rural senate is unclear. (I have seen some analysis that the GOP could remain nearly entirely the white party … if they just get 5% more of the white vote they can hold the EC for 20 more years despite losing the popular … add on more aggressive voter suppression techniques and who knows …. but it makes coming back later a greater challenge)

        My hope is that the Republican party can find its way to being able to compete for a national majority of American citizens solely on the basis of ideas … where if we had a national mandatory vote it would come out about 50/50.   That probably meas making some kind of peace with immigration enough to win Latino and Asian votes. It also means getting back white college educated voters… that will require making some peace with science/climate etc.

         
        Good thoughts.  I have always found a similar concept interesting – the fact that Hispanics increasingly define themselves as “white” and not Hispanic.  As you said, the Repubs may become the “white” party but it’s unclear who all that will encompass.  A lot of Hispanics have conservative ideals and if Republicans weren’t so stupid on immigration policies/tactics, they would get a lot more of them (similar to GW Bush levels, maybe more)
         
        [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/upshot/more-hispanics-declaring-themselves-white.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…-themselves-white.html[/link]
        [link=https://prospect.org/civil-rights/latino-flight-whiteness/]https://prospect.org/civi…tino-flight-whiteness/[/link]
        [link=https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2017/12/20/hispanic-identity-fades-across-generations-as-immigrant-connections-fall-away/]https://www.pewresearch.o…connections-fall-away/[/link]
         
        Black voters tend to also be more moderate.  Remains to be seen if extreme Left agendas will push them away (to not voting; not sure they will move to vote Republican in any significant number)
        Non-hispanic immigrants (esp those of color) seem to be very liberal and then of course there’s a block of white liberals.
         
        I guess what I’m saying is that I’m not so sure the parties are going to be defined by color in 20 years…or even after Trump.  I hope that that is the case and I agree with you in that the people should be voting for parties based on ideas and not skin color.

        • btomba_77

          Member
          August 17, 2020 at 8:45 am

          Yeah… some interesting thoughts there.
           
          An argument can absolutely be made that the Latino vote *should* be up for grabs by the GOP … larger families, more Christian than whites.   But poll after poll shows immigration as a threshold issue for Latinos.  A majority just can’t bring themselves to vote Republican because of the stance on immigration.  
           
          Similar thoughts on the black vote, but even more extreme.  Even if black voters are more moderate, the fact that vast majorites of them consider the GOP to be a party of racists makes it impossible to compete for a sizable percentage.
           
           
           
          I think the politics of race….. Latino, black, Asian … will be with us for generations to come.

          • clickpenguin_460

            Member
            August 17, 2020 at 8:54 am

            You might be right. I just wish we could get past race.  Our human minds may never let us though.  It will be one shade of brown vs. another in 200 years (ha).
             
            Also, those are some of the biggest failings with the Repub party.  It’s truly remarkable how bad they have been re: race and immigration.  Even the ones that aren’t racist and have done some good things (even Trumps First Step Act) can’t frame any sort of positive narrative.  Too much bad rhetoric from some has outweighed some good thoughts and policies by others.  You and I  had that previous reasonable discussion about a good immigration compromise for example that should and could happen but won’t due to extremists.
             
            Like even now, Repubs should be out there saying they want to help protect minority communities so they support increased policing but increased training and reduced use of violence.  Instead they just send in “troops” and don’t act like they even care.  Heck, they act like they care more about monuments than the black people dying in Chicago, etc.  Just really terrible at focusing on what matters.  Dems are at fault for a lot of things in the cities (a separate topic) and thus both parties are extremely inept at this modern urban violence issue.  You can’t just throw money (dems) or guns (repubs) at it and expect things to change.

            • btomba_77

              Member
              August 17, 2020 at 11:05 am

              Quote from Cubsfan10

              You might be right. I just wish we could get past race.  Our human minds may never let us though.  It will be one shade of brown vs. another in 200 years (ha).

               
              I would even go a bit further than my original comment.
               
              I would say that the fight for political power/influence/resources between younger browner Americans and older whiter Americans will be one the major if not the primary domestic fight of the 21st century.

              • clickpenguin_460

                Member
                August 17, 2020 at 11:07 am

                Ugh, I hope it’s not split solely on race like that.  That would be ugly for everyone.

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  August 22, 2020 at 5:30 am

                  [b]McSally Asks Backers to Fast So They Can Afford to Donate rather than Eat  [/b]

                  Sen. Martha McSally (R-AZ) presented an unusual fundraising pitch in audio obtained by [link=https://www.azfamily.com/video/mcsally-asks-supporters-to-fast-a-meal-so-they-can-donate-to-her-campaign/video_39defdde-0d32-5032-821c-39be4761e8c8.html]KPHO[/link]: She suggested supporters to fast for a meal then give her the money that they save as a campaign donation
                   
                  Said McSally: Were doing our best to catch up, you know, to get our message out. But it takes resources if you can give $5, $10. If you can, fast a meal and give what that would be.

                   

                  • clickpenguin_460

                    Member
                    August 22, 2020 at 7:05 am

                    Quote from dergon

                    [b]McSally Asks Backers to Fast So They Can Afford to Donate rather than Eat  [/b]

                    Sen. Martha McSally (R-AZ) presented an unusual fundraising pitch in audio obtained by [link=https://www.azfamily.com/video/mcsally-asks-supporters-to-fast-a-meal-so-they-can-donate-to-her-campaign/video_39defdde-0d32-5032-821c-39be4761e8c8.html]KPHO[/link]: She suggested supporters to fast for a meal then give her the money that they save as a campaign donation

                    Said McSally: Were doing our best to catch up, you know, to get our message out. But it takes resources if you can give $5, $10. If you can, fast a meal and give what that would be.

                     
                    That is just terrible.  One of the worst suggestions by a campaign I’ve seen in awhile.

  • Unknown Member

    Deleted User
    August 22, 2020 at 6:55 am

    Quote from Cubsfan10

    You might be right. I just wish we could get past race.  Our human minds may never let us though.  It will be one shade of brown vs. another in 200 years (ha).

    Also, those are some of the biggest failings with the Repub party.  It’s truly remarkable how bad they have been re: race and immigration.  Even the ones that aren’t racist and have done some good things (even Trumps First Step Act) can’t frame any sort of positive narrative.  Too much bad rhetoric from some has outweighed some good thoughts and policies by others.  You and I  had that previous reasonable discussion about a good immigration compromise for example that should and could happen but won’t due to extremists.

    Like even now, Repubs should be out there saying they want to help protect minority communities so they support increased policing but increased training and reduced use of violence.  Instead they just send in “troops” and don’t act like they even care.  Heck, they act like they care more about monuments than the black people dying in Chicago, etc.  Just really terrible at focusing on what matters.  Dems are at fault for a lot of things in the cities (a separate topic) and thus both parties are extremely inept at this modern urban violence issue.  You can’t just throw money (dems) or guns (repubs) at it and expect things to change.

     
    No it won’t. We can’t get past race until people stop talking about it. If you are forced to talk about people in groups, then you have to admit the differences between groups, and that they aren’t equal as groups – they have different tendencies, proclivities and talents. This is known by every student of biology and history.
     
    In Singapore they have already understood that if you have different groups living among one another, the only way to make it work is by extremely free economic system (harmony) and authoritarianism. Period. Ask those “racist” or “bigoted” Asians why they decided that was the case. Uh, maybe because they saw the only way things actually work?

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      August 22, 2020 at 7:06 am

      Quote from Castlevania

      Quote from Cubsfan10

      You might be right. I just wish we could get past race.  Our human minds may never let us though.  It will be one shade of brown vs. another in 200 years (ha).

      Also, those are some of the biggest failings with the Repub party.  It’s truly remarkable how bad they have been re: race and immigration.  Even the ones that aren’t racist and have done some good things (even Trumps First Step Act) can’t frame any sort of positive narrative.  Too much bad rhetoric from some has outweighed some good thoughts and policies by others.  You and I  had that previous reasonable discussion about a good immigration compromise for example that should and could happen but won’t due to extremists.

      Like even now, Repubs should be out there saying they want to help protect minority communities so they support increased policing but increased training and reduced use of violence.  Instead they just send in “troops” and don’t act like they even care.  Heck, they act like they care more about monuments than the black people dying in Chicago, etc.  Just really terrible at focusing on what matters.  Dems are at fault for a lot of things in the cities (a separate topic) and thus both parties are extremely inept at this modern urban violence issue.  You can’t just throw money (dems) or guns (repubs) at it and expect things to change.

      No it won’t. We can’t get past race until people stop talking about it. If you are forced to talk about people in groups, then you have to admit the differences between groups, and that they aren’t equal as groups – they have different tendencies, proclivities and talents. This is known by every student of biology and history.

      In Singapore they have already understood that if you have different groups living among one another, the only way to make it work is by extremely free economic system (harmony) and authoritarianism. Period. Ask those “racist” or “bigoted” Asians why they decided that was the case. Uh, maybe because they saw the only way things actually work?

       
      Liberals will continue to separate people as long as it continues to win them elections.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 22, 2020 at 7:54 am

        Pot meet kettle.
         
         

        • btomba_77

          Member
          August 31, 2020 at 1:39 pm

          Alaska Senate Race Is Tied

          A new Public Policy Polling survey in Alaska finds challenger Al Gross (I) in a dead heat with with Sen. Dan Sullivan (R) for U.S. Senate, 43% to 43%, with 12% unsure.

          • btomba_77

            Member
            September 2, 2020 at 4:19 pm

            SENATE RACE POLLS (FOX NEWS)
             
            [link=https://twitter.com/hashtag/AZSen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1301279466644213760%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flyertalk.com%2Fforum%2Fomni-pr%2F1625034-control-senate-predictions-discussion-67.html&src=hashtag_click]#AZSen[/link] Kelly (D): 56% McSally (R-inc): 39%
             
            [link=https://twitter.com/hashtag/NCSen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1301279466644213760%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flyertalk.com%2Fforum%2Fomni-pr%2F1625034-control-senate-predictions-discussion-67.html&src=hashtag_click]#NCSen[/link] Cunningham (D): 48% Tillis (R-inc): 42%

            • bunnie_face_936

              Member
              September 3, 2020 at 3:25 am

              No shit, some purport that the response to the lawsuit at yale that some asians are being harmed by affirmative action is to break up the asian group into various subgroups. Really, what they’re wanting to do is factor in income as the most important factor (the right thing to do, in reality) but they won’t say that…
               
              Rich, white socialist angsty teens who have been raised among mostly other rich white people and are ready to tear up the system don’t quite understand that the rich part is more important than the race part

              • btomba_77

                Member
                September 10, 2020 at 4:58 am

                [h1]McConnell Says Control of Senate a “50-50 Situation” like a “Knife Fight[/h1]  
                Asked if he thinks Donald Trump is a net positive for Senate Republican candidates on the ticket, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell would only tell [link=https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/mitch-mcconnell-senate-majority/index.html]CNN[/link]: Well find out. Thats something that well only know the day after the election.
                 
                McConnell said its just a hugely challenging cycle to hold onto the majority and said its a 50-50 situation, arguing that races in Montana, Colorado, Arizona, Iowa, North Carolina, Maine and Georgia are far too close to call.
                 
                He added: Thats why I describe it like a knife fight in an alley. Everybodys slugging it out.
                 

                • kaldridgewv2211

                  Member
                  September 10, 2020 at 7:53 am

                  Putin’s Mitch is still +5 on Amy McGrath.  Kentucky gonna keep on Kentuckying the rest of us.
                   
                  [link=https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/kentucky/]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/kentucky/[/link]

                  • clickpenguin_460

                    Member
                    September 10, 2020 at 8:17 am

                    If McGrath can’t beat him, then no one will.  She’s the best, moderate-type candidate they could have hoped for IMO.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 14, 2020 at 8:00 am

    [link=https://www.globalstrategygroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/CO-Mountaineer-Q3-Survey-Topline-F09.03.20.pdf]Global Strategy Group*[/link]

    Colorado:
    [b]Hickenlooper +10 , 52/42[/b]

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 16, 2020 at 5:57 am

    [h1]Mark Kelly +10 Senate In Arizona[/h1]  
    A new [link=https://f.hubspotusercontent40.net/hubfs/7453540/200908%20AZPOP/AZPOP%20Crosstabs%20-%20Senate.pdf]OH Predictive Insights poll[/link] in Arizona finds Mark Kelly (D) leading Sen. Martha McSally (R) in the U.S. Senate race, 52% to 42%.
     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      September 16, 2020 at 11:19 am

      [h1]Susan Collins Trails, Lindsey Graham Ties, McConnell holds wide Lead[/h1]  
      New [link=https://poll.qu.edu/south-carolina/release-detail?ReleaseID=3673]Quinnipiac polls[/link] of several interesting U.S. Senate races:
      [ul][*]Maine: Sarah Gideon (D) 54%, Susan Collins (R) 42%[*]South Carolina: Lindsey Graham (R) 48%, Jaime Harrison (D) 48%[*]Kentucky: Mitch McConnell (R) 53%, Amy McGrath (D) 41% [/ul]  

      • kaldridgewv2211

        Member
        September 17, 2020 at 6:57 am

        I guess if Mitch won’t lose there’s always hoping Lindsey does.  I did notice that he was out there saying it’s been 5 days why hasn’t Jamie Harrison released his taxes.  Then Jamie did release them.  Too bad he doesn’t ask the same of Trump.  

        • btomba_77

          Member
          September 17, 2020 at 7:43 am

          [h1][b]Prior Kansas GOP Senator Endorses Democrat for Her Old Seat[/b][/h1]  

          Former Sen. Nancy Kassebaum (R-KS) endorsed Barbara Bollier (D) for the Senate seat that she held for 18 years, the [link=https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article245780930.html#storylink=cpy]Kansas City Star[/link] reports.
          This is the second time in two election cycles that Kassebaum has endorsed a Democrat in a statewide race, [link=https://politicalwire.com/2018/09/18/nancy-kassebaum-backs-democrat-for-kansas-governor/]announcing her support for Laura Kelly[/link] (D) in the 2018 race for governor.[/QUOTE]
           

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 17, 2020 at 8:46 am

    [b]Jaime Harrison Raises $1 Million In Less Than 24 Hours[/b][/h1]  
     
     
    Jaime Harrison (D) [link=https://twitter.com/harrisonjaime/status/1306576476045799424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1306576476045799424%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fcampaign%2F516864-graham-opponent-says-he-raised-1m-in-a-day-after-poll-showed-tied-race]announced that he raised $1 million[/link] within a day after a poll found him tied with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R) the U.S. Senate race in South Carolina.

     

    • btomba_77

      Member
      September 17, 2020 at 12:56 pm

      [b]Senate Democrats to Spend In South Carolina Race[/b][/h1]  
       
      The DSCC announced theyre going in with a seven-figure investment to help Jaime Harrison (D) in the South Carolina U.S. Senate race, according to the [link=https://twitter.com/JessicaTaylor/status/1306664609403854848]Cook Political Report[/link].

       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        September 18, 2020 at 4:28 am

        [b]FiveThirtyEight 2020 Senate Forecast released:[/b]
         
        [b] [/b]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/   

        Democrats slightly favored to hold the Senate.

        Three ways they look at polling: “Lite, Classic, and Deluxe”

        In all three Dems are favored to win the Senate.  Based on polling alone the average median outcome ranges from D 50.4 seats to D 51.4 seats.

        [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiMYd8tXcAAClGz?format=jpg&name=medium[/img]

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          September 18, 2020 at 6:13 am

          Isn’t 50.4 a tie with the VP being the tie breaker.

          • clickpenguin_460

            Member
            September 18, 2020 at 7:25 am

            I wouldn’t count on Manchin to do silly things like eliminate the filibuster either.  Maybe not even Sinema.

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