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CNN-first charges filed in Mueller Probe
Posted by 100574 on October 27, 2017 at 6:00 pmwould make sense given the Trump camp has up the fake shade on HRC noise
Clapper did confirm the Turkey kidnap plot
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did U see that imho idiot Carter Page leaving today from Senate–the stupid arrogance that he showed with Chris Hayes was gone and he had this odd hat on–did not look well
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Yay. Lock them up! All of ’em
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keep this little gem in the back of your mind of what happened today( resignation–why now-since is the one Trump had do the firing of those US lawyers–was this his breaking point)
[link=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/top-doj-official-dana-boente-resigns.html][color=”#001ba0″]Top DOJ official Dana Boente resigns[/color][/link][b] [/b][i] [/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
all of this on the eve of VA Gov race
has the Trump team done anything to prevent a hijack of our elections by the Russians-
so are we going to see a perp walk or this is to let the person get affairs together
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to the Trump supporters- the Grand jury will indict a ham sandwich-well that did not work out for many Black Americans that were killed by police/Sandra Bland/Eric Gardner
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let’s hope VA election is not hacked
The DOJ hacked the last VA governor’s election. Can’t do any worse with the russkies.
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Lil Donnie is not doing well–look at his tweets–a walking MI–Karma
[size=”2″][b]”now the facts are pouring out. DO SOMETHING!”(#45)[/b][/size]–becoming really unhinged-working himself into a heart attack & Monday has not come yet-karma[b] [/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]-
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Deleted UserOctober 29, 2017 at 5:20 pmWho is the first indicted?
I will guess Flynns son
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remember it could involve multiple people
would love it if Jared. Don, Jr/Manafort–all who attended the Russian sit down were included–that would be blockbuster tv-the Monday Morning massacreQuote from kpack123
Who is the first indicted?
I will guess Flynns son
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Who is the first indicted?
I will guess Flynns son
I went with Carter Page as the first to go down months ago.
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D–where u been
I was waiting for your pearls of wisdom
Dodgers lost
Trump had GOP Lovefest and theN Mueller dropped and now he is Tweeting:-Do Something NOW-a walking MI
Friday night Roger Stone went bonkers on CNN and he was bounced from twitter But he has a second account like Stone truth and prior to Friday-he and his guest felt Jared would be indicted and not Manafort( odd since we know Paul was told to expect it)–they claimed Jared would be indicted but not don jr
but after that stone went bonkers–who knows–just keep state charges available to cancel out pardon
Jared returned to US last night–so he is on us soil–don’t think he will claim Israeli citicensip and stay thereQuote from dergon
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Who is the first indicted?
I will guess Flynns son
I went with Carter Page as the first to go down months ago.
Gotta dance with who brung ya’
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Manafort & business partner charged & surrenders.
So much for “fake news” about investigation.-
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/manafort-and-former-business-partner-asked-to-surrender-in-connection-with-special-counsel-probe/2017/10/30/6fe051f0-bd67-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html?utm_term=.abac844db22b&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics–alert-national&wpmk=1]https://www.washingtonpos…rt-national&wpmk=1[/link]
On the WaPo it indicated Flynn indictment not pending:
“Flynns lawyer, Robert Kelner, said late Friday, we are not commenting tonight. A person familiar with Flynns defense said he, too, had received no notice of pending indictment.”
It’ll be interesting to see what they have on Manafort. You’ve got the Kushner dude and Flynn who also seem to have lied about Russian connections. Probably some people sweating bullets now.
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2017 at 7:27 amFor a nothingburger this seems kinda big
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I like the play he made to announce that this Papadapolous person from the Trump campaign advisers was indicted and appears like he’s been cooperating with the FBI investigation.
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This is all very amusing. All Republicans including “high-minded” McCain & others, swore that if Hillary had won they’d all support non-ending investigations during her administration & do everything to stop anything constructive form happening.
Instead we have self-inflicted non-ending investigations of the Trump administration and the Republicans & Administration are so inept and incompetent they are doing the same to themselves by not being able to do anything constructive.
Republicans run saying “Government is bad” and then prove it after they are elected.
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2017 at 9:35 amThe beginning of the end of the reality shoe
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I am so glad all these people got indicted on federal collusion charges. I mean there is no telling how this would end if we allowed private citizens to just talk to anyone without asking for permission first.
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Manafort & business partner charged & surrenders.
So much for “fake news” about investigation.
A great piece in [i]The Atlantic[/i] today:
[link=http://www.auntminnie.com/Forum/"https:/www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/"][b]Paul Manafort, American Hustler: The Plot Against America[/b]; Decades before he ran the Trump campaign, Paul Manaforts pursuit of foreign cash and shady deals laid the groundwork for the corruption of Washington.[/link]
Over the decades, Manafort had cut a trail of foreign money and influence into Washington, then built that trail into a superhighway. When it comes to serving the interests of the worlds autocrats, hes been a great innovator. His indictment in October after investigation by Special Counsel Robert Mueller alleges money laundering, false statements, and other acts of personal corruption. (He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.) But Manaforts role in Muellers broader narrative remains carefully guarded, and unknown to the public. And his personal corruption is less significant, ultimately, than his lifetime role as a corrupter of the American system. That he would be accused of helping a foreign power subvert American democracy is a fitting coda to his lifes story.
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Helping elect Donald Trump, in so many ways, represents the culmination of Paul Manaforts work. The president bears some likeness to the oligarchs Manafort long served: a businessman with a portfolio of shady deals, who benefited from a cozy relationship to government; a man whose urge to dominate, and to enrich himself, overwhelms any higher ideal. It wasnt so long ago that Trump would have been decisively rejected as an alien incursion into the realm of public service. And while the cynicism about government that enabled Trumps rise results from many causes, one of them is the slow transformation of Washington, D.C., into something more like the New Britain, Connecticut, of Paul Manaforts youth.
Last year, a group of Manaforts longtime friends, led by an old Republican hand named Bill Greener, tried to organize a cadre of surrogates to defend Manafort from the allegations against him, including the worst one: that he collaborated with a hostile foreign power to subvert the American democratic process. Manaforts old partner Charlie Black even showed up for a meeting, though the two had largely fallen out of touch. A few of the wheel men from the old firm wanted to help too. Yet, when volunteers were needed to go on TV as character witnesses, nobody raised his hand. There wasnt a lot to work with, one person contacted by this group told me. And nobody could be sure that Paul didnt do it. In fact, everything about the man and the life he chose suggests that he did.[/QUOTE]
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2017 at 1:03 pmOne step at a time
No collusion charges yet just building a bigger case by turning up the heat and turning the screws tighter
Trumps campaign manager failed to disclose his Russian related ties at a time the republican platform mysteriously got changed last year at the republican convention
They denied doing it….. no one admitted to changing the platform but it was changed
2 weeks later manafort leaves the campaign
More people and bigger fish are involved
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One step at a time
No collusion charges yet just building a bigger case by turning up the heat and turning the screws tighter
Trumps campaign manager failed to disclose his Russian related ties at a time the republican platform mysteriously got changed last year at the republican convention
They denied doing it….. no one admitted to changing the platform but it was changed
2 weeks later manafort leaves the campaign
More people and bigger fish are involved
Hope springs eternal.
That’s not how fed prosecutions roll. If they did, Martha Steward would have brought down a whole network of insider traders. Once they have a guilty plea to some bullshit charge like papadopulos, it means that that is all they got. Once that is done, the feds have used up whatever leverage they had. The ‘building a greater case’ happens before anything goes to the grand jury.
Manafort is a bleeping idiot. If you don’t have your foreign finances straight, why would you take a role like campaign manager ? That’s Clinton level dumb. And Papadopulos is a dope. Don’t ever talk to the FBI. The words are ‘on advice of counsel I invoke my 5th amendment rights and decline to answer at this time’ and ‘I don’t recall’. Thats the advice a retired US district court judge gave me years ago. The only way you ever communicate with the FBI is in writing in response to subpoenas.
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2017 at 1:31 pmYou screamed and cried about this last year that nothing was here
Well you haven’t been right about any of this since the Russian ties started circulating last year
So just wait and see
And watch what happens
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Martha Stewart? Talk about grasping at straws.
Manafort might be a bleeping but look at the bleeping idiot who hired him. And all the bleeping idiots who surround the central bleeping idiot, all, and I mean all, doing bleeping idiot things like they float above it all. Or believing their supporters are bleeping idiots to notice. Or actually will give a pass on what prove to be criminal activity. Remember Trumps brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight, I believe he and his followers believe that to be true.
The fat lady hasnt sung yet, shes just warming up to what might just turn out to be a spectacular event.
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Things are no longer Clinton – stupid, they are now Trump – stupid, making Clinton look like an amateur.
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In August 2016, former House Speaker and Trump loyalist Newt Gingrich [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rsEhtHvkeQ][color=”#0066cc”]told Fox News host[/color][/link] Sean Hannity that “nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to get this campaign to where it is right now.” [b] [/b][i] [/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
No one on the Trump team contacted the FBI w/ all these shenanigans and then U have sessions not forthcoming when it deals with Russia
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Things are no longer Clinton – stupid, they are now Trump – stupid, making Clinton look like an amateur.
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Not until the fat lady sings & she might be Trump herself sinking the ship twitting on Twit. Make it seem like Trump is a loser gelding for denying the charges & hell loud and proud twit back that it was his idea all the time!
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when he said Russia is a Ruse–I in my gut knew he was lying–angry/combative
[link=http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/02/16/trump-russia-is-a-ruse-i-have-nothing-to-do-with-russia/][color=”#001ba0″][b]Trump[/b]: ‘[b]Russia[/b] Is [b]a Ruse[/b]’ – ‘I Have Nothing to Do With [/color][/link][b] [/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
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amen–the guy who pled guilty— we did not know anything about him–but he probably has the best deal( these idiots need to know-the feds come by once-get on it First—because Trump will throw u under the bus)–he looks like a techi
the other shoe will be face book- twitter– head of data/JaredQuote from Frumious
Martha Stewart? Talk about grasping at straws.
Manafort might be a bleeping but look at the bleeping idiot who hired him. And all the bleeping idiots who surround the central bleeping idiot, all, and I mean all, doing bleeping idiot things like they float above it all. Or believing their supporters are bleeping idiots to notice. Or actually will give a pass on what prove to be criminal activity. Remember Trumps brag about shooting someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight, I believe he and his followers believe that to be true.
The fat lady hasnt sung yet, shes just warming up to what might just turn out to be a spectacular event.
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You screamed and cried about this last year that nothing was here
So far you have nothing.
Manafort didn’t report his foreign income and Papadopulos is a dope who made the mistake of making statements about facts to the feds.
Yes Sir
No Sir
I have no recollection of that Sir
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So far we are in the indicting phase not the conviction phase.
The fact that 3 people around and close to Trump have been indicted with 1 guilty plea already that has to do with Russians promising to provide stolen emails to the Trump people should not exactly be a cause for celebration for you nor should you be whistling past the graveyard. Nothing is settled yet but it isn’t good news for your man, fw. And there might just be several stained dresses still undiscovered hanging around in someones’ closets.-
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Deleted UserOctober 31, 2017 at 8:05 amYes there is nothing there until there is something
Dodge duck deny and defer
People are going down here
Maybe not trump himself but people in the campaign and some who were formerly or currently close to him
Look you just don’t change a part platform towards Russia that has been in place for nearly 70 years then deny doing it then claim you have no ties to the Russians
The new version of the Republican Party can deny ….. bait and switch….. try to make this a Hillary thing( which I may add because for a year they have screamed st everyone that Hillary lost get over it)
But someone is going down for this big nothingburger
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So far we are in the indicting phase not the conviction phase.
The fact that 3 people around and close to Trump have been indicted with 1 guilty plea already that has to do with Russians
Nothing Papadope did was illegal until he started talking to the FBI. It is entirely legal to look for dirt on your opponent. Podesta even went so far to pay some Brit to fabricate an entire ‘dossier’ of unsubstantiated slander. It’s politics.
And nothing Manafort has been indicted about is campaign related.
Maybe down the line Mueller is going to find some wrongdoing actually related to the campaign. So far it’s a dud.
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it is not legal to ask a foreign government for help. Period. and fat sam clovis was ? supervisor. Trump failed to take the best advice ever given to him-when Reince told him to drop out after the access Hollywood tape–Trump took the worst advice from people with ZERO political experience to Fire Comey—now he must accept the consequences of his poor decision making
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So far we are in the indicting phase not the conviction phase.
The fact that 3 people around and close to Trump have been indicted with 1 guilty plea already that has to do with Russians
Nothing Papadope did was illegal until he started talking to the FBI. It is entirely legal to look for dirt on your opponent. Podesta even went so far to pay some Brit to fabricate an entire ‘dossier’ of unsubstantiated slander. It’s politics.
And nothing Manafort has been indicted about is campaign related.
Maybe down the line Mueller is going to find some wrongdoing actually related to the campaign. So far it’s a dud.
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So talking to an unfriendly foreign government in order to obtain stolen information (emails) to interfere an election to bring down a legitimate candidate for POTUS is not illegal.
Quite a statement. Quite an argument! A true patriot’ argument I’m sure.
Well it’s probably not illegal to talk but lying is a crime & behind the lying there is more. After all, Trump has been a liar the whole campaign so the Trumpets obviously don’t think lying is important.
And Trump is so unconcerned about the allegations and arrests he’s called Papadopoulos a liar. That’s after he praised him for being on his foreign relations team.
[link=https://www.lawfareblog.com/robert-muellers-show-strength-quick-and-dirty-analysis]https://www.lawfareblog.c…ick-and-dirty-analysis[/link]
The first big takeaway from Monday mornings flurry of charging and plea documents with respect to [link=https://www.lawfareblog.com/summary-manafort-and-gates-indicted-allegations-and-charges]Paul Manafort Jr., Richard Gates III[/link] and [link=https://www.lawfareblog.com/summary-papadopoulos-pleads-guilty-making-false-statements-fbi]George Papadopoulos[/link] is this: The president of the United States had as his campaign chairman a man who had allegedly served for years as an unregistered foreign agent for a puppet government of Vladimir Putin, a man who was allegedly laundering remarkable sums of money even while running the now-presidents campaign, a man who allegedly lied about all of this to the FBI and the Justice Department.
The second big takeaway is even starker: A member of President Trumps campaign team admits that he was working with people he knew to be tied to the Russian government to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government officials and to obtain dirt on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of hacked emailsand that he lied about these activities to the FBI. He briefed President Trump on at least some of them.
lets pause a moment over these two remarkable claims, one of which still must be considered as allegation and the other of which can now be considered as admitted fact. President Trump, in short, had on his campaign at least one person, and allegedly two people, who actively worked with adversarial foreign governments in a fashion they sought to criminally conceal from investigators. One of them ran the campaign. The other, meanwhile, was interfacing with people he understood to have substantial connections to Russian government officials and with a person introduced to him as a relative of Russian President Vladimir Putin with connections to senior Russian government officials. All of this while President Trump was assuring the American people that he and his campaign had “[link=https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-i-have-nothing-to-do-with-russia-folks-792709187907]nothing to do with Russia[/link].”
The release of these documents should, though it probably wont, put to rest the suggestion that there are no serious questions of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government in the latters interference on the formers behalf during the 2016 election. It also raises a profound set of questions about the truthfulness of a larger set of representations Trump campaign officials and operatives have made both in public and, presumably, under oath and to investigators.
And heres the rub: This is only Special Counsel Robert Muellers opening salvo.
The stipulation also contains some rather damaging information about President Trump himself. Papadopoulos says he attended a national security meeting on March 31, 2016, at which Trump himself was present, along with his other foreign policy advisers. In that meeting, Papadopoulos told the group that he had connections to arrange a meeting between Trump and Russian President Putin. This means that Trump either knew or should have known about his campaigns effort to interface with Russia, even as news of various criminal hacking and attempts to interfere with the U.S. election were becoming public.
We will say this: Muellers opening bid is a remarkable show of strength. He has a cooperating witness from inside the campaigns interactions with the Russians. And he is alleging not mere technical infractions of law but astonishing criminality on the part of Trumps campaign manager, a man who also attended the Trump Tower meeting.
Any hope the White House may have had that the Mueller investigation might be fading away vanished Monday morning. Things are only going to get worse from here.
The rest of the article is worth reading.
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[b] The fact that 3 people around and close to Trump have been indicted with 1 guilty plea already that has to do with Russians [/b]
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[b] And nothing Manafort has been indicted about is campaign related. [/b]
[b] Maybe down the line Mueller is going to find some wrongdoing actually related to the campaign. So far it’s a dud. [/b]
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[b]If he knew they were agents of a foreign government and worked with them anyway then there are numerous potential criminal charges. A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime… And if a U.S. citizen coordinates or assists in that spending, then that could be a crime.[/b]
[b][size=”2″]Scholars also believe it could be a [url=https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1346][/size][/b]
[size=”2″][b] scheme or artifice to defraud [/url] if money was exchanged.[/b][/size][/h1]
[b][size=”1″]Also potentially federal anti-coercion election law.[/size][/b]
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Deleted UserOctober 31, 2017 at 1:17 pmYeah Hillarys emails were scandals after scandal….. lock her up
In Benghazi-gate she was a criminal
The uranium deal in which 10 other agencies signed of and uranium can’t leave the country if we won’t let it….. was treason
….. but hey changing the party platform in secrecy, standing shoulder to shoulder and getting under the table support with Russia ….. a country who 4 years earlier their candidate called our biggest enemy…,,,, is a big nothing burger
Absolutely nothing at all
Hillary had a server in her house…. that’s the real crime
Fng dumbarse hacks
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Manfort had 3 different passports–Trump’s billionaire friend Barrack recommended Manafort—-what was all 3 relationship
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saw this on twitter
From Russia With Love:-Attorney Tribe
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[b]If he knew they were agents of a foreign government and worked with them anyway then there are numerous potential criminal charges. A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime… And if a U.S. citizen coordinates or assists in that spending, then that could be a crime.[/b]
What US statute was violated by him meeting and talking with the russian professor ?
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[b]If he knew they were agents of a foreign government and worked with them anyway then there are numerous potential criminal charges. A foreign national spending money to influence a federal election can be a crime… And if a U.S. citizen coordinates or assists in that spending, then that could be a crime.[/b]
What US statute was violated by him meeting and talking with the russian professor ?
I noticed quite early that they never did answer this. Because they can’t. Everything they accuse Person XYZ of, Podesta/Clinton et al have done 10x over.
And because I am consistent, even what we know of what THEY did was, let us say it again, NOT ILLEGAL
The punishment for your insolence is that none of this is going anywhere, I don’t even care about the Frumi/SLN/kpack inability of logic, fairness of mind, discipline of thinking, etc.
You guys have had thread after thread with ‘Wait, watch, they’ll get this, they’ll get that, he’s going here, blah blah blah”
You’ve got nothing. And you call me chicken little? LOLOLOLOL
kpack dishes it out and then does the exact same BS! Cookie the Clown is waiting for you, Bozo. So sad you’ll never lead the Grand March.
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2017 at 7:16 pmHilarious. From what I’ve read there is more evidence of Clinton collusion with the Russians than Trump. Sorry to wake you lefties up. Feel free to stick your heads back into the sand……
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Ignorance is not Bliss
while all this was going on–Trump team was also trying to get Trump Moscow built–Roger Stone had a guest that said Jared would be indicted and not Manafort–and the Friday happened and Stone Freaked out
Donnie’s working himself into a MI–stupid Trump supporters–there is a sucker born everydayQuote from Ben Casey
Hilarious. From what I’ve read there is more evidence of Clinton collusion with the Russians than Trump. Sorry to wake you lefties up. Feel free to stick your heads back into the sand……
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Deleted UserOctober 30, 2017 at 7:38 pmOk. Let us no when you have something interesting. So far nothing-burger is still on the plate. Ignorance is leftist pacifier.
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it is going to a be drip drip drip drip drip–this is just the warm up
stupid Trump supporters fell for the Bernie Madoff con–STUPIDQuote from Ben Casey
Ok. Let us no when you have something interesting. So far nothing-burger is still on the plate. Ignorance is leftist pacifier.
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General Kelly’s recent comments shows a man in his own public breakdown but even he admits Trump is under investigation
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So far you have nothing.
Manafort didn’t report his foreign income
Don’t you mean Manafort laundered money? Sure as heck looks like he did per the indictment.
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Don’t you mean Manafort laundered money? Sure as heck looks like he did per the indictment.
Sloppy bookkeeping.
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Don’t you mean Manafort laundered money? Sure as heck looks like he did per the indictment.
Sloppy bookkeeping.
“Sloppy bookkeeping”
[size=”3″]A handy itemized list of his purchases:[/size][size=”3″]–Home improvement company in the Hamptons, in New York: $5.4 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home lighting and entertainment company in Florida: $1.3 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Antique rug store in Alexandria, Virginia: $934,350, plus $100,000 related to those purchases.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Men’s clothing store in New York: $849,215.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Landscaping in the Hamptons: $820,240.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Antique dealer in New York: $623,910.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Clothing store in Beverly Hills, California: $520,440.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Investment company: $500,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Contractor in Florida: $432,487.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Contractor in Virginia: $125,650.[/size]
[size=”3″]–A Mercedes-Benz: $62,750.[/size]
[size=”3″]–A Range Rover: $47,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Payments related to three Range Rovers: $163,705.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home equipment installation company in the Hamptons: $112,825.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Property management company in South Carolina: $46,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Art gallery in Florida: $31,900.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Housekeeping in New York: $20,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]The indictment also says Manafort used the money to buy three properties:[/size]
[size=”3″]–Condominium in New York’s SoHo neighborhood for $1.5 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Brownstone in Brooklyn’s Carroll Gardens neighborhood for $3 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–House in Arlington, Virginia, for $1.9 million.[/size]
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“Tis nothing but a flesh wound.” – Black Knight (Monty Python)
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Nothing illegal about collusion?
Assuming fw & the other Trumpets are correct that collusion happened but there is no crime with an American Presidential candidate actively working with a hostile government to undermine an American Presidential election in order to help ensure that a specific candidate wins that the hostile government prefers.
So where does that leave America? It was always assumed that no American President or candidate would work to undermine an election with the assistance of a hostile government providing propaganda and stolen materials. But now we know otherwise.
But it is not illegal.
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Deleted UserNovember 1, 2017 at 9:45 amHillary used an illegal email server
Nothing could be worse than that
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Deleted UserNovember 1, 2017 at 9:45 amExcept of course Benghazi
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“Sloppy bookkeeping”
[size=”3″]A handy itemized list of his purchases:[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home improvement company in the Hamptons, in New York: $5.4 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home lighting and entertainment company in Florida: $1.3 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Antique rug store in Alexandria, Virginia: $934,350, plus $100,000 related to those purchases.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Men’s clothing store in New York: $849,215.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Landscaping in the Hamptons: $820,240.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Antique dealer in New York: $623,910.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Clothing store in Beverly Hills, California: $520,440.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Investment company: $500,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Contractor in Florida: $432,487.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Contractor in Virginia: $125,650.[/size]
[size=”3″]–A Mercedes-Benz: $62,750.[/size]
[size=”3″]–A Range Rover: $47,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Payments related to three Range Rovers: $163,705.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home equipment installation company in the Hamptons: $112,825.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Property management company in South Carolina: $46,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Art gallery in Florida: $31,900.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Housekeeping in New York: $20,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]The indictment also says Manafort used the money to buy three properties:[/size]
[size=”3″]–Condominium in New York’s SoHo neighborhood for $1.5 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Brownstone in Brooklyn’s Carroll Gardens neighborhood for $3 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–House in Arlington, Virginia, for $1.9 million.[/size]
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“Sloppy bookkeeping”
[size=”3″]A handy itemized list of his purchases:[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home improvement company in the Hamptons, in New York: $5.4 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home lighting and entertainment company in Florida: $1.3 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Antique rug store in Alexandria, Virginia: $934,350, plus $100,000 related to those purchases.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Men’s clothing store in New York: $849,215.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Landscaping in the Hamptons: $820,240.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Antique dealer in New York: $623,910.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Clothing store in Beverly Hills, California: $520,440.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Investment company: $500,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Contractor in Florida: $432,487.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Contractor in Virginia: $125,650.[/size]
[size=”3″]–A Mercedes-Benz: $62,750.[/size]
[size=”3″]–A Range Rover: $47,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Payments related to three Range Rovers: $163,705.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Home equipment installation company in the Hamptons: $112,825.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Property management company in South Carolina: $46,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Art gallery in Florida: $31,900.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Housekeeping in New York: $20,000.[/size]
[size=”3″]The indictment also says Manafort used the money to buy three properties:[/size]
[size=”3″]–Condominium in New York’s SoHo neighborhood for $1.5 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–Brownstone in Brooklyn’s Carroll Gardens neighborhood for $3 million.[/size]
[size=”3″]–House in Arlington, Virginia, for $1.9 million.[/size]Small fry relative to his overall earnings. Made the mistake of not keeping the assets from his overseas holdings separate from his local expenses.
Seriously? Have you read the indictment?
[link]https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download[/link]
A direct link to Russian organized crime, right in the indictment. Mueller spelled it out.
[i][b]The indictment contains information showing a direct link between Paul Manafort and Russian organized crime.[/b][/i]
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Seriously? Have you read the indictment?
[link=https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download]https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download[/link]
A direct link to Russian organized crime, right in the indictment. Mueller spelled it out.
[i][b]The indictment contains information showing a direct link between Paul Manafort and Russian organized crime.[/b][/i]
Manaforts business is a good illustration why we need the tax reform package revealed today.
The indictment is also a good illustration on why it is so important to maintain a private email server if you conduct questionable activities. That way, you can delete emails at your pleasure, print out the ones you want the .gov to see and crush the server harddrive with a hammer afterwards.
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kpack is talking about podesta brothers and their shadiness yet doesn’t even know it
Just as fw said though, even that is not illegal — that’s why it’s a nothing sandwich more than anything.
All of your accusations were perpetrated far harder and longer by the Democrat Party top officials, vis a vis selling access with Clinton.
Talk about hacking it up. You have no discipline in thought or argument regarding any of this. You cannot even admit that intentionally skirting FOIA to hide info is criminal and the very purpose of FOIA. It’s just insane to even discuss things with you anymore if you can’t admit what’s clearly illegal and why we have laws.
You’re all emotion. Going nowhere. And you know it if you just think objectively for a nanosecond
But you won’t. And you’ll suffer for it if you actually care about this swampland-
fat Sam Clovis–another disaster for Trump–the hits just keep on coming-drip drip drip–Fager Do u have 3 passports like Manfort
Clovis remember threw rick perry under the bus and Trump still lost Iowa Cauc by Sammy looks like he just slithered out of a the swampQuote from Dr. ****er
kpack is talking about podesta brothers and their shadiness yet doesn’t even know it
Just as fw said though, even that is not illegal — that’s why it’s a nothing sandwich more than anything.
All of your accusations were perpetrated far harder and longer by the Democrat Party top officials, vis a vis selling access with Clinton.
Talk about hacking it up. You have no discipline in thought or argument regarding any of this. You cannot even admit that intentionally skirting FOIA to hide info is criminal and the very purpose of FOIA. It’s just insane to even discuss things with you anymore if you can’t admit what’s clearly illegal and why we have laws.
You’re all emotion. Going nowhere. And you know it if you just think objectively for a nanosecond
But you won’t. And you’ll suffer for it if you actually care about this swampland
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It wasn’t mere talking. It might not be illegal but you see no problem with working with a hostile foreign government to help undermine an American election so that Trump gets elected, the candidate Russia preferred for many reasons?
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It wasn’t mere talking. It might not be illegal but you see no problem with working with a hostile foreign government ……
I made no such statement. I am saying that no US law is violated by a private citizen meeting with an ‘agent of a hostile foreign government’. Once you hold a clearance or are in the employ of the federal government, there may be rules that require you to report such contacts to a security coordinator, but for a private citizen none of this applies. Papadope committed a crime by talking to the FBI. Had he never responded to the FBIs inquiries or simply provided documents in response to subpoenas, he would not have been in a situation that required him to plead guilty.
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Don’t LIE to the FBI you mean.
If there is no crime why has everyone been so committed to lying about colluding with the Russians about stolen emails and social media propaganda.
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Papadope committed a crime by talking to the FBI.
It’s a low point when you’re trying to justify wrong doings. His only crime was talking to the FBI. Alrighty…
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Deleted UserNovember 1, 2017 at 2:23 pmIts not even worth arguing with these morons
They have the trump love and they would follow him off of any bridge or building
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Papadope committed a crime by talking to the FBI.
It’s a low point when you’re trying to justify wrong doings. His only crime was talking to the FBI. Alrighty…
Had he committed any of the nebulous treasonous acts dergon accused him of, I have no doubt that the FBI would have forwarded a statement in support of charges to the US attorney. But they didn’t. He is guilty of one count of Martha Stewart.
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Deleted UserNovember 1, 2017 at 5:50 pmDo you consider this investigation over
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he pled/ made a deal and the WH could have been wiredQuote from fw
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Papadope committed a crime by talking to the FBI.
It’s a low point when you’re trying to justify wrong doings. His only crime was talking to the FBI. Alrighty…
Had he committed any of the nebulous treasonous acts dergon accused him of, I have no doubt that the FBI would have forwarded a statement in support of charges to the US attorney. But they didn’t. He is guilty of one count of Martha Stewart.
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Papadope committed a crime by talking to the FBI.
It’s a low point when you’re trying to justify wrong doings. His only crime was talking to the FBI. Alrighty…
Had he committed any of the nebulous treasonous acts dergon accused him of, I have no doubt that the FBI would have forwarded a statement in support of charges to the US attorney. But they didn’t. He is guilty of one count of Martha Stewart.
It is very likely that that there are additional charges that could be made but were dropped as part of his plea agreement. The “plea guilty to one count of” is plea deal standard op. It is very likely predicated on Papadopolous’ cooperation (and continued cooperation) with the investigation.
As for the likelihood of more:
As part of the filings released, Mueller prosecutors made clear that these are part of “a large scale ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part.That was testimony before the judge overhearing the case, not public spin.
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It is very likely that that there are additional charges that could be made but were dropped as part of his plea agreement. The “plea guilty to one count of” is plea deal standard op. It is very likely predicated on Papadopolous’ cooperation (and continued cooperation) with the investigation.
As for the likelihood of more:
As part of the filings released, Mueller prosecutors made clear that these are part of “a large scale ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part.
That was testimony before the judge overhearing the case, not public spin.
So what higher ups did Martha Steward give up to get her deal ?
Sometimes the feds just entrap someone for the heck of it. Can’t draw any conclusions from a single count guilty plea.
And of course it is a ‘large scale investigation’. Mueller is going to make millions of this in billable hours. Why stop after you found nothing if you can still milk this for another year or two.-
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Deleted UserNovember 2, 2017 at 8:23 amPretty sure peter bacanovic went to jail with Martha
Fairly big fish
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Deleted UserNovember 2, 2017 at 8:26 amAnd of course you don’t know what bacanovic gave up for such a light sentence
Unless of course you have privy to such info
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It is very likely that that there are additional charges that could be made but were dropped as part of his plea agreement. The “plea guilty to one count of” is plea deal standard op. It is very likely predicated on Papadopolous’ cooperation (and continued cooperation) with the investigation.
As for the likelihood of more:
As part of the filings released, Mueller prosecutors made clear that these are part of “a large scale ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part.
That was testimony before the judge overhearing the case, not public spin.
So what higher ups did Martha Steward give up to get her deal ?
Sometimes the feds just entrap someone for the heck of it. Can’t draw any conclusions from a single count guilty plea.
And of course it is a ‘large scale investigation’. Mueller is going to make millions of this in billable hours. Why stop after you found nothing if you can still milk this for another year or two.
Are you trying to say the feds baited Martha Stewart into insider trading? She served time, albeit in country club prison. I’m not seeing any information out that looks like the Feds baited the DJT camp into doing anything.
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I guess fat Sam Clovis is part of his despair
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A former Trump campaign official linked to the Russia investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller has withdrawn his nomination as the Agriculture Department’s chief scientist.Sam Clovis, a former Trump campaign national co-chairman and chief policy adviser, wrote in a letter Thursday to President Donald Trump that he does “not want to be a distraction or a negative influence.”[b] [/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike][b][/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
The Union of Concerned Scientists, which helped organize a letter signed by more than 3,000 scientists opposing Clovis’ nomination, said he had “failed to meet the most basic legal qualifications to serve as the chief scientist at the USDA.”[b][/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
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Do you consider this investigation over
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Keep hope alive.
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Papadopoulos originally charged with both false statements and obstruction of justice. The latter charge carried a potential 20 year jail sentence.
It was dropped in exchange for his cooperation.
No wonder he started singing (and maybe wearing a wire).
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Manafort? Republican tax reform package? Strange linkages outside of them both being corrupt.
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Deleted UserNovember 2, 2017 at 12:29 pmHe is searching for a coherent argument
First he pulls Martha Stewart out of his arse only to have shoved right back up there
Now it’s manaforts businesses
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Manafort? Republican tax reform package? Strange linkages outside of them both being corrupt.
No need to monkey around with foreign entities if you can repatriate the profits from overseas business activities without losing most of it to the government in the form of confiscatory taxes.
You should know that. Really.-
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Manafort? Republican tax reform package? Strange linkages outside of them both being corrupt.
No need to monkey around with foreign entities if you can repatriate the profits from overseas business activities without losing most of it to the government in the form of confiscatory taxes.
You should know that. Really.
Taxes is taxes but there was nothing stopping him from reporting it as income on his taxes? or registering as a foreign agent for that matter. A lot of people need 3 passports, like spies.
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Manafort? Republican tax reform package? Strange linkages outside of them both being corrupt.
No need to monkey around with foreign entities if you can repatriate the profits from overseas business activities without losing most of it to the government in the form of confiscatory taxes.
You should know that. Really.
Everything is confiscatory. Just like the light bill & mortgages. Doctor’s bills. Insurance. I deserve it all for free.
You should know that, really.
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Trump may be trying to pressure Sessions to go so that he can put in a new crazy–to fire Mueller–this is a classic backdoor move–
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Trump may be trying to pressure Sessions to go so that he can put in a new crazy–to fire Mueller–this is a classic backdoor move–
Well, since he admitted to perjury, something should happen. I favor handcuffs.
[link=https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/sessions-now-says-he-was-aware-of-papadopoulos-russia-contacts-contradicting-his-sworn-testimony-report/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im&utm_tracker=1737131×84899]https://www.rawstory.com/…_tracker=1737131×84899[/link]
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I wonder who this guy got on tape for 3 months under cover
did U see Manafort in court today–I hope feds have put him on a budget and monitor his bank accounts for sudden withdrawals–wonder if the 3 passport were seized during the surprise raid
wired $12 million income that he did not pay taxes on to vendors for personal purchases between 2008 and 2014, [link=https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4163389-Manafort-Gates-Indictment-Filed-and-Redacted.html][color=”#0066cc”]according to charges unveiled Monday[/color][/link][b] [/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike] -
Sessions now remembers denying Papadapolous Russia trip. My what a tangled web is weaved…
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this is coming after Pap flipped and may have wired people for 3 months
Sam Clovis long radio/Iowa history was highlighted on Rachel–wonder if he has prior issues with other campaigns that could be used to get him to flipQuote from DICOM_Dan
Sessions now remembers denying Papadapolous Russia trip. My what a tangled web is weaved…
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this is coming after Pap flipped and may have wired people for 3 months
Sam Clovis long radio/Iowa history was highlighted on Rachel–wonder if he has prior issues with other campaigns that could be used to get him to flipQuote from DICOM_Dan
Sessions now remembers denying Papadapolous Russia trip. My what a tangled web is weaved…
[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/carter-page-testimony-russia-trip/index.html]
Carter Page testifies he told Sessions about Russia trip[/url][/h1]
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Deleted UserNovember 3, 2017 at 5:46 amNothing burgers
Just a lot of them and pretty much every single day
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Nothing burgers
Just a lot of them and pretty much every single day
Finally come around to the facts? Good.
Now, “a lot of them” and every day is your wishes, they are your hopes and dreams
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Deleted UserNovember 6, 2017 at 4:53 pmI was being sarcastic dumbsquit
Someone is going to jail
Keep watching
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this is coming after Pap flipped and may have wired people for 3 months
Sam Clovis long radio/Iowa history was highlighted on Rachel–wonder if he has prior issues with other campaigns that could be used to get him to flipQuote from DICOM_Dan
Sessions now remembers denying Papadapolous Russia trip. My what a tangled web is weaved…
[link=http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/carter-page-testimony-russia-trip/index.html]
Carter Page testifies he told Sessions about Russia trip[/link]The Fall Guy. Starring Jeff Sessions as Colt Seavers.
I was reading speculation. Sessions goes down, New AG fires Mueller. However, I think that’d be the terminus of the Trump presidency.-
if Trump does that then it will prove obstruction–an intentional act to stop an investigation–pure low level wise guy stuff
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this is coming after Pap flipped and may have wired people for 3 months
Sam Clovis long radio/Iowa history was highlighted on Rachel–wonder if he has prior issues with other campaigns that could be used to get him to flipQuote from DICOM_Dan
Sessions now remembers denying Papadapolous Russia trip. My what a tangled web is weaved…
[link=http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/carter-page-testimony-russia-trip/index.html]
Carter Page testifies he told Sessions about Russia trip[/link]The Fall Guy. Starring Jeff Sessions as Colt Seavers.
I was reading speculation. Sessions goes down, New AG fires Mueller. However, I think that’d be the terminus of the Trump presidency.
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President Donald Trump said he dropped Paul Manafort as his campaign chairman because of Manafort’s involvement with “certain nations,” according to excerpts of an interview published Saturday.
“Well,[size=”3″][b] it [/b][/size]was a friend of mine who was a businessman — a very successful businessman and a good person, and you know, Paul was not there very long,” Trump [link=http://fullmeasure.news/coming-up/one-on-one-with-president-trump][color=”#0066cc”]said on Sharyl Attkisson’s syndicated show “Full Measure,”[/color][/link] which will air in full on Sunday.[b] [/b][i][/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
The President also said he doesn’t currently plan to fire special counselor Robert Mueller.
“Well, I hope he’s treating everything fairly, and if he is, I’m going to be very happy, because when you talk about innocent, I am truly not involved in any collusion with Russia,” Trump said. [size=”3″][b]”Believe me, [/b][/size]
[size=”2″]2 things from this interview–he says [b]IT [/b]was a friend of mind( recall the movie)[/size]
[size=”3″][size=”2″]and when he says [b]Believe me–[/b]we know not to[/size][b]
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Taxes is taxes but there was nothing stopping him from reporting it as income on his taxes? or registering as a foreign agent for that matter.
Nothing really. That’s the silly part about this. After taxes, he would have had 40mil or so and registering under FARA wouldn’t have changed his effectiveness as an advocate for the corrupt russian cronies.
Did Tony Podesta ever register as foreign agent ? After all he was the one doing the hands-on lobbying work on behalf of the corrupt russian cronies. I guess Pizzagate was real, except that it had nothing to do with child porn.
A lot of people need 3 passports, like spies.
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Taxes is taxes but there was nothing stopping him from reporting it as income on his taxes? or registering as a foreign agent for that matter.
Nothing really. That’s the silly part about this. After taxes, he would have had 40mil or so and registering under FARA wouldn’t have changed his effectiveness as an advocate for the corrupt russian cronies.
Did Tony Podesta ever register as foreign agent ? After all he was the one doing the hands-on lobbying work on behalf of the corrupt russian cronies. I guess Pizzagate was real, except that it had nothing to do with child porn.
A lot of people need 3 passports, like spies.
I have two. A matter of convenience and added security when traveling abroad.
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You can get a second passport with State Department approval.
Generally this is because of one of two reasons, either you have had to surrender your primary passport in order to get through a visa process but have necessary international travel in between. Or, you may be travelling to countries in which a visa from one will preclude/inhibit travel to another (Israel and some nations in the Middle East).-
Looks like Flynn jr had his twitter account suspended today
Not sure why
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Deleted UserNovember 6, 2017 at 6:42 amAnother angry white fuy
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Looks like Flynn jr had his twitter account suspended today
Not sure why
I follow Flynn Jr., just for the laughs. He got pretty testy Saturday, and Sunday morning. Offensive language.
NBC was reporting yesterday that his indictment is “imminent”. His son tweeted last friday or saturday that,”My dad will never see the inside of the jail.” Not exactly a declaration of innocence. Flynn reminds me of Ollie North, in that he’d fall on his sword for the administration. Since his son is involved, I wonder if he’ll flip on them to save his kid.-
that’s the speculation I’ve seen. Flynn cooperates in order to keep his douche of son out of jail.
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Taxes is taxes but there was nothing stopping him from reporting it as income on his taxes? or registering as a foreign agent for that matter.
Nothing really. That’s the silly part about this. After taxes, he would have had 40mil or so and registering under FARA wouldn’t have changed his effectiveness as an advocate for the corrupt russian cronies.
Did Tony Podesta ever register as foreign agent ? After all he was the one doing the hands-on lobbying work on behalf of the corrupt russian cronies. I guess Pizzagate was real, except that it had nothing to do with child porn.
A lot of people need 3 passports, like spies.
I have two. A matter of convenience and added security when traveling abroad.
How does one acquire 2 US passports, let alone 3?
What I’m not clear about is whether the passports were aliases.
The story says he has 3 passports and has traveled internationally usin an alias … but it doesn’t clarify whether the passport had an alias name. If that is the case it is unlikely to be leit.
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Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Charge Flynn[/link]Federal investigators have gathered enough evidence to bring charges in their investigation of President Trumps former national security adviser and his son as part of the probe into Russias intervention in the 2016 election, [link=http://nbcnews.to/2ywXzPC]NBC News[/link] reports.
Michael Flynn, who was fired after just 24 days on the job, was one of the first Trump associates to come under scrutiny in the federal probe now led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign. Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn following his indictment of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
The investigators are speaking to multiple witnesses in coming days to gain more information surrounding Flynns lobbying work, including whether he laundered money or lied to federal agents about his overseas contacts.
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I hope that smarty pants gets indicted as well–then we will see how he tweets
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Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Charge Flynn[/link]Federal investigators have gathered enough evidence to bring charges in their investigation of President Trumps former national security adviser and his son as part of the probe into Russias intervention in the 2016 election, [link=http://nbcnews.to/2ywXzPC]NBC News[/link] reports.
Michael Flynn, who was fired after just 24 days on the job, was one of the first Trump associates to come under scrutiny in the federal probe now led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign. Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn following his indictment of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
The investigators are speaking to multiple witnesses in coming days to gain more information surrounding Flynns lobbying work, including whether he laundered money or lied to federal agents about his overseas contacts.
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“Well,[size=”3″][b] it [/b][/size]was a friend of mine who was a businessman — a very successful businessman and a good person, and you know, Paul was not there very long,” Trump [link=http://fullmeasure.news/coming-up/one-on-one-with-president-trump][color=”#0066cc”]said on Sharyl Attkisson’s syndicated show “Full Measure,”[/color][/link] which will air in full on Sunday.[b] [/b][b] [/b][i] [/i][u][/u][strike][/strike]
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Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Charge Flynn[/link]Federal investigators have gathered enough evidence to bring charges in their investigation of President Trumps former national security adviser and his son as part of the probe into Russias intervention in the 2016 election, [link=http://nbcnews.to/2ywXzPC]NBC News[/link] reports.
Michael Flynn, who was fired after just 24 days on the job, was one of the first Trump associates to come under scrutiny in the federal probe now led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign. Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn following his indictment of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
The investigators are speaking to multiple witnesses in coming days to gain more information surrounding Flynns lobbying work, including whether he laundered money or lied to federal agents about his overseas contacts.
If by “smarty pants” you mean Trump…. highly highly doubtful.
First, it is not at all clear legally that a sitting President can be indicted. Second, it would be a tactical mistake for Mueller to try.
He may or may not recommend that congress consider charges and impeachment, but that is the end game for Trump while President… either impeachment or no, not indictment.
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no I was referring to Flynn’s son who just can’t put the twitter down and claims he won’t be going to jail–again I hope he does not put faith in a Trump pardon because the pizza thing with was disgraceful
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[link=http://nbcnews.to/2ywXzPC]
Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Charge Flynn[/link]Federal investigators have gathered enough evidence to bring charges in their investigation of President Trumps former national security adviser and his son as part of the probe into Russias intervention in the 2016 election, [link=http://nbcnews.to/2ywXzPC]NBC News[/link] reports.
Michael Flynn, who was fired after just 24 days on the job, was one of the first Trump associates to come under scrutiny in the federal probe now led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign. Mueller is applying renewed pressure on Flynn following his indictment of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
The investigators are speaking to multiple witnesses in coming days to gain more information surrounding Flynns lobbying work, including whether he laundered money or lied to federal agents about his overseas contacts.
If by “smarty pants” you mean Trump…. highly highly doubtful.
First, it is not at all clear legally that a sitting President can be indicted. Second, it would be a tactical mistake for Mueller to try.
He may or may not recommend that congress consider charges and impeachment, but that is the end game for Trump while President… either impeachment or no, not indictment.
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Flynn’s son is a real piece of work–junior does not know that he does not know everything–can’t wait to see him go down though dad may try to protect
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I was being sarcastic dumbsquit
Someone is going to jail
Keep watching
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Deleted UserNovember 6, 2017 at 6:09 pmSomeone is going to jail
It’s just a matter of high up it goes
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[url=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/359007-cnn-poll-trumps-approval-hits-new-low]More Americans consider Russia probe a serious matter than before[/url]
About 64 percent of respondents say the investigation into Russian influence is a serious matter that should be fully investigated. The number who see it is as an effort to discredit Trumps presidency is down 6 points to 32 percent.
Despite Trumps [link=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357490-trump-claims-its-commonly-agreed-he-didnt-collude-with-russia]insistence[/link] that there has been no collusion, just 34 percent of Americans polled approve of the way he is dealing with the investigation, while 54 percent disapprove. The latter number is down 5 points from August.-
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Deleted UserNovember 6, 2017 at 7:46 pmSomeone is going to jail for this nothing burger
…. just how high up the food chain is anyones guess
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I wonder how far into the money trail Mueller is. Has he located Trump’s tax returns? I’m assuming those are lost in the Bermuda Triangle or were eaten by a yeti.
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2 months ago–a pundit said he probably already has it
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I wonder how far into the money trail Mueller is. Has he located Trump’s tax returns? I’m assuming those are lost in the Bermuda Triangle or were eaten by a yeti.
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I wonder how far into the money trail Mueller is. Has he located Trump’s tax returns? I’m assuming those are lost in the Bermuda Triangle or were eaten by a yeti.
He likely already has them.
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Someone is going to jail for this nothing burger
…. just how high up the food chain is anyones guess
You said Trump was a while back, lol, now “somebody”
More weak walking it back, stop predicting stuff, you are out of touch when it comes to politics
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[link=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/359007-cnn-poll-trumps-approval-hits-new-low]More Americans consider Russia probe a serious matter than before[/link]
About 64 percent of respondents say the investigation into Russian influence is a serious matter that should be fully investigated. The number who see it is as an effort to discredit Trumps presidency is down 6 points to 32 percent.
Despite Trumps [link=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357490-trump-claims-its-commonly-agreed-he-didnt-collude-with-russia]insistence[/link] that there has been no collusion, just 34 percent of Americans polled approve of the way he is dealing with the investigation, while 54 percent disapprove. The latter number is down 5 points from August.
CNN poll, lol
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Deleted UserNovember 7, 2017 at 6:13 pmCNN poll was right in Virginia
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all the polls have been correct since 2016 but trust me they were correct that night–Russia pulled that lever–Kelly Anne is a pollster–she had Trump losing believe me
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[link=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/359007-cnn-poll-trumps-approval-hits-new-low]More Americans consider Russia probe a serious matter than before[/link]
About 64 percent of respondents say the investigation into Russian influence is a serious matter that should be fully investigated. The number who see it is as an effort to discredit Trumps presidency is down 6 points to 32 percent.
Despite Trumps [link=http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357490-trump-claims-its-commonly-agreed-he-didnt-collude-with-russia]insistence[/link] that there has been no collusion, just 34 percent of Americans polled approve of the way he is dealing with the investigation, while 54 percent disapprove. The latter number is down 5 points from August.
CNN poll, lol
They still have polls saying Hillary won, lol
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This is a good way to “celebrate” the anniversary of last year’s election.
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Deleted UserNovember 8, 2017 at 5:37 amGetting back to the 2016 polls
The National polls were right…..Hillary won by 3 points nationally
The rust belt state polls were wrong
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Getting back to the 2016 polls
The National polls were right…..Hillary won by 3 points nationally
The rust belt state polls were wrong
It was all those illegal voters. How else to explain it? I mean if you are Trump.
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Getting back to the 2016 polls
The National polls were right…..Hillary won by 3 points nationally
The rust belt state polls were wrong
It was all those illegal voters. How else to explain it? I mean if you are Trump.
He doesn’t need to explain anything to you, you don’t get it anyway, he’s in the White House. Yes, basically, you’re his btch, which is why you post and complain all the time, and it gets you NOWHERE
NOTHING BURGER frumi and kpack can’t believe it but newsflash — their posts mean nothing-
will go down in history with an asterisk–helped by Russia in the biggest foreign espionage infiltration ever
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Getting back to the 2016 polls
The National polls were right…..Hillary won by 3 points nationally
The rust belt state polls were wrong
It was all those illegal voters. How else to explain it? I mean if you are Trump.
He doesn’t need to explain anything to you, you don’t get it anyway, he’s in the White House. Yes, basically, you’re his btch, which is why you post and complain all the time, and it gets you NOWHERE
NOTHING BURGER frumi and kpack can’t believe it but newsflash — their posts mean nothing
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That goes down in the annals of all time loser posts trying to make something about of … yes, you get it: another NOTHING burger.
kpack “But mom, waaaa’hhh, I got more yards in the game!”
kpack’s mom: Shut up kpack, you know the rules of the game, that’s not what wins.
If you don’t realize how stupid your post is, let alone meaningless, you are in fact hopeless.
I gave you all the shots in the world and you can’t admit reality or understand, seeminly at all, what matters.
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[url=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-08/manafort-lawyers-barred-by-judge-from-talking-about-case]
Judge Issues Gag Order to Lawyers and Witnesses in Manafort Case[/url][/h1]Last week, Paul Manaforts trial judge [link=https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-11-02/manafort-lawyer-s-sidewalk-speech-draws-rebuke-from-trial-judge]threatened[/link] to issue a gag order after his lawyer called Special Counsel Robert Muellers case against his client ridiculous in a blistering minute-long sidewalk speech. Now, U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson has followed through.
“In order to safeguard defendants rights to a fair trial, and to ensure that the court has the ability to seat a jury that has not been tainted by pretrial publicity,” Jackson said in a written order issued Wednesday that she was barring all parties from making statement to the media or in public “that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice in this case.”