[nahugrv_792]

So, no one has any recommendations for CME? Do you guys get them all through conferences or attending RSNA?

[heenadevk1119_462]

I’m always wondering, seems like they are another expensive cartel. Is ARRS better than the rest?

[Unknown Member]

I’m interested in hearing responses to this question as well.
 
I used to fly to conferences. This past year I ordered a full course on DVD.
 
It costs the same as the multi-day conference, a little over $1000, but at least I don’t pay airfare/hotel/restaurant/bike rental. 
 
I may switch over to reading Radiographics or other articles that give CME credit.

[btomba_77]

I travel for all my CMEs.
 
Others I get through participation in Tumor Boards, Grand Rounds and other academic activities at the hosptial

[jun52.park]

Been doing ARRS for years.  Best bang for your buck.  Bunch of articles in every specialty of radiology and as a member you have access to all of them for no extra cost.  Clearly outlines if its 1.0, 1.5 credits, etc as well as whether or not it qualifies as a SA-CME.  Keeps it all nice and organized as well in case of audit.

[aaishafatima999_432]

“I used to fly to conferences. This past year I ordered a full course on DVD. It costs the same as the multi-day conference, a little over $1000, but at least I don’t pay airfare/hotel/restaurant/bike rental. ” 
  I  read Radiographics / ARRS / RSNA/ RADIOLOGY or other articles that give CME credit, AND get the CDs and thumbdrives and watch over and over again.
Above–my strategy.

[Dr_Cocciolillo]

this is back to whether you can tax deduct expenses for conferences in places you want to go to or not. 
 
i am contemplating doing a europe conference during a time i want to be in europe anyway.  the $900 fee for the conference will be easily offset by flight and hotel savings.   
 
This, of course, also depends on whether you are in academics where you can’t pretax your expenses or PP where you can.  
 
Lastly, it depends on whether you want to take a vacation at 1/2 off or save as much money as possible and get the CME as cheaply as possible.  No one size fits all here.  

[Unknown Member]

When I really mean to, like when I need mammo credits for mqsa, the ARRS articles for 1 or 2 units each are great. Did a mega dvdrom conference a couple of years ago which about bored me to death.

I’m still looking for the perfect option myself but the destination programs get expensive real quick although you also get a lot of units. An older colleague only does journal credits for all his needs. He reads a lot.

Does anyone use cmegateway as custodian of cme credits?

[nahugrv_792]

ACR wanted something like $1100 for me to renew my membership for a year. That seemed a bit pricey for my liking.
 
There are free CMEs online, but they are not radiology specific. I didn’t see anything on the ABR site indicating that the CMEs had to be tied to radiology. Does anyone know if this is the case or not? In other words, if I wanted to, I could do 25 CME a year in things like opiate or HTN management?

[heenadevk1119_462]

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Been doing ARRS for years.  Best bang for your buck.  Bunch of articles in every specialty of radiology and as a member you have access to all of them for no extra cost.  Clearly outlines if its 1.0, 1.5 credits, etc as well as whether or not it qualifies as a SA-CME.  Keeps it all nice and organized as well in case of audit.

 
What’s the most cost effective way for ARRS; seems like they have a good thing going there.

[tdetlie_105]

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I need to get CMEs for ABR MOC. Is the cheapest/fastest/least painful way to join the ACR and do the Case in Point every weekday? Any other thoughts? Thanks in advance.

 
Not cheapest but fastest, least painful way I find is through STATdx.  You can claim 0.5 credits based on each of your searches after answering 2-3 questions
 

[romacs8ae]

depending on the state you are in – you can claim 50% of your CME credit hours from category II.  It doesn’t have to be in Radiology – but can be in any medically related topic or field. And the best part is that you don’t have to keep diligent records as to these activities.
 
[h1]AMA Category II Credit Guidelines[/h1] [b]The American Medical Association (AMA) defines category II as all educational activities not designated category I that:[/b]
       comply with the AMA definition of CME
       comply with AMA ethical opinions on Gifts to Physicians from Industry and on Ethical Issues in CME provide a worthwhile learning experience related to a physician’s practice
[h4]Physician-Designated Category II[/h4] Learning experiences that are not designated category I and are not included in the reading requirement can be claimed for category II hours, including:
       articles physicians publish in peer-reviewed journals
       poster presentations and teaching at conferences approved for category I credit
       specialty board certification and recertification
       medically related degrees
       participation in an ACGME-accredited program
       use of non-designated enduring materials
       consultation with peers and experts [b][i]THIS IS VERY GOOD![/i][/b]
       medical research and study online
In determining the number of category II hours to be reported, physicians can use patient charts and personal notations as helpful reminders. For instance, a physician could recall that in the course of a week, he/she has learned from six consultations with experts, averaging 10 minutes each, for a total of about one hour. Or a physician could estimate that in the course of a month, he/she has learned from four discussions with colleagues, averaging 15 minutes each, for a total of about one hour.
Learning required to teach physicians, residents, medical students, and other health professionals can also be claimed for category II hours.
Up to 10 hours may be claimed for publication of a medical or medically related article (or chapter in a book), or for learning that occurs in preparing an exhibit for an organized medical meeting. Small-group discussions on a selected journal article, which can bridge the gap between information and understanding and application to practice, may also be claimed as category II.
 
[b][i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit [/i][/b]
[b]19. What is [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i]? [/b]
[i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit [/i]is CME credit which is self-designated and claimed by individual physicians for participation in activities not certified for [i]AMA PRA Category 1 Credit[/i] that:
Comply with the AMA definition of CME; and
Comply with the relevant AMA ethical opinions; at the time of this writing this includes E-8.061 Gifts to Physicians from Industry, E-9.011 Continuing Medical Education and E-9.0115 Financial Relationships with Industry in Continuing Medical Education, and
Are not promotional; and
A physician finds to be a worthwhile learning experience related to his/her practice.
 
Examples of learning activities that might meet the requirements for [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i] include, but are not limited to:
Teaching residents, medical students or other health professionals
Unstructured online searching and learning (i.e., not Internet PoC)
Reading authoritative medical literature
Consultation with peers and medical experts
Small group discussions
Self assessment activities
Medical writing
Preceptorship participation
Research
Peer review and quality assurance participation
 
A physician must individually assess the educational value for each learning experience in which he or she participates to determine if it is appropriate to claim [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i].
[b]AMA Definition of CME[/b]: CME consists of educational activities which serve to maintain, develop, or increase the knowledge, skills, and professional performance and relationships that a physician uses to provide services for patients, the public or the profession. The content of CME is the body of knowledge and skills generally recognized and accepted by the profession as within the basic medical sciences, the discipline of clinical medicine and the provision of health care to the public. (HOD policy #300.988)
[b]20. Does the AMA or accredited CME providers issue certificates for participation in activities that may qualify for [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i]? [/b]
Physicians are not issued certificates which state they have been awarded [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i]. This credit is self-claimed and self-documented by physicians. Organizations may not advertise an activity as meeting the requirements or being eligible for [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i].
[b]21,- How do physicians claim [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i]? [/b]
The physician should self-claim credit for appropriate [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i] activities and document the activity title or description, subject or content area, date(s) of participation and number of credits claimed. Physicians may not claim [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i] for an activity for which the physician has claimed [i]AMA PRA Category 1 Credit[/i]. Each physician is responsible for maintaining a record of their [i]AMA PRA Category 2 Credit[/i]
 

 
 

[aldoctc]

For general radiology CME, ARRS seemed the best bang for my buck.  I use SNMMI for NM CME.  I’ve let my RSNA and ACR memberships lapse over the past few years–expensive and little relevance to my practice.  I also get CME from tumor board at the hospital and our malpractice carrier puts on a quarterly “risk management” dinner (ins. co. runs cases by the docs that show up) that has CME; attend 2 a year and get a little discount on the premium.  I have used DVD’s over the years but not recently.  I liked that I could pause, rewind, review, etc. at my own pace.  In the past, I used the ACR syllabi and Continuous Professional Improvement (CPI) programs; both were good but as more CME moved online and I dropped my ACR membership, I’ve stopped using those. 
 
If you need a lot of CME in a hurry, online is probably your best bet. 
 
For the past few years, I’ve been getting my CME online and then if there’s a destination course in a place I’d like to travel to (e.g. Hawaii, Caribbean, etc.) I’ll take a vacation using pre tax dollars.  Sometimes I even attend a few of the lectures, LOL.  Have noticed over the last 5-10 years that I’m an old man now at these things; will probably mean I attend even fewer of the lectures….
 

[mpezeshkirad_710]

Statdx, oakstone, board vitals for online resources
 
Board vitals is a q bank that I used to study for the certifying exam and you can get up to 60 hours of Category 1.  It also gives 10 hours of SAM.  PM me if you want a referral link

[afazio.uk_887]

 
ARRS is the best deal.  You can renew for 3-years at a time for a reduced rate.   I watch the online lectures they have, which are usually very good and come straight from the talks at the meetings.  Those usually give 1.5 hrs. SA-CME.    Articles from the yellow journal usually 1 SA-CME.  They also have “Goldminer” which is basically just goggling and looking at a radiology image and getting a fraction of 1 hr CME each time (don’t think it is SA-CME however).
 
I link the ARRS account to CMEgateway which is linked to myABR account – seamless integration which updates the ABR automatically.
 
 

[heenadevk1119_462]

thanks for the post

[chrislindquist1]

What is the best way to get SA-CME?

[chrislindquist1]

What is the best way to get SA-CME?

[mpezeshkirad_710]

I just paid $100 to RSNA for a membership until the end of the year, so I can get CME through Radiographics.
 
Is there any limit to how much CME and “SA-CME” I can get using Radiographics?  If not, I can in theory get all of it from this source?
 
Also does anyone tax deduct RSNA membership?  I’m not sure if my employer will reimburse the expense as it is not directly tied to CME.

[tovayalda]

I use ARRS. Affordable. Organized. Concise.

[bradley.griffith_305]

I am looking for recommendations for online video CME particularly for spine and general MRI. Preferably not too expensive.

[tdetlie_105]

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I am looking for recommendations for online video CME particularly for spine and general MRI. Preferably not too expensive.

 
ARRS

[j3toads]

StatDx works for me. Already looking up info for reads there daily, so might as well get credit for it. Plus my company pays for my subscription.

[hdamis]

No one has mentioned these very easy approaches:
 
1. Doximity will send you specialty specific updates weekly, half of which have articles that have 0.5 CME attached from various sources. Click the link on a few of interest, and Doximity will automatically track that you read it. Then periodically go into the Doximity app and “claim” the CME credit you have accumulated. I easily get 25-30 CME per year that way. Print off the summary on Jan 1 for previous year and file away in case of audit.
 
2. If you are an RSNA member, go to the Education Center ([link=https://education.rsna.org/diweb/catalog)]https://education.rsna.org/diweb/catalog)[/link] and filter for CME-SA. I have a reminder to do one a month, which easily satisfies the ABR requirement for CME-SA (15/per three-year cycle). Use CMEgateway.org to track RSNA, ACR, STATdx, others and print out summary on Jan 1 for prior year.
 

[Unknown Member]

http://www.radlist.com

[fedora1]

I joined ARRS and RSNA for CME. Its best bang for buck and you have something to read at your own pace. I dropped my ACR membership. Felt its not worthwhile at > 1000$.

[cchandc]

ARRS.

Its $350 per year I believe.

You can go on there and check out all the free SA-CME papers and web videos over the year you have the membership and stock up. Then continue to do it after your membership lapses and renew again after a couple years.

So rather than pay $1000s to go a meeting or for a few hours of DVDs, you get 1000 hours of CME for a few hundred bucks. And its good quality material.

I used to travel a lot and never got traveling for CME. You pay $1000+ for the conference and you pay big bucks for their discount rate at the vote where theyre located and you spend at least half of your vacation in lecture.

If Im going to spend big bucks on a vacation, Im going to enjoy it with my family. Ill watch a 30 min CME lecture while i exercise 4-5 times per week so when Im on vacation, i can actually be on vacation.

[stuarttwiss_189]

ARRS for sure

[mariacardei7_785]

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ARRS for sure

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[Unknown Member]

A lot of the ARRS web lectures are really good. Do lots while on the treadmill.