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Boehner to resign from congress
[link=http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/us/john-boehner-to-resign-from-congress.html]http://www.nytimes.com/20…ign-from-congress.html[/link]
Speaker [link=http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/john_a_boehner/index.html?inline=nyt-per]John A. Boehner[/link], under intense pressure from conservatives in his party, will resign one of the most powerful positions in government and give up his House seat at the end of October, throwing Congress into chaos as it tries to avert a government shutdown.
Most recently, Mr. Boehner, 65, was trying to craft a solution to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told him that they would not vote for a bill that did not [link=http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/18/us/republicans-abortion-john-boehner-planned-parenthood.html]defund Planned Parenthood[/link]. Several of those members were on a path to remove Mr. Boehner as speaker, though their ability to do so was far from certain.
Sign up to receive an email from The New York Times as soon as important news breaks around the world.It will be up to a majority of the members of the House now to choose a new leader, and the leading candidate is Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the majority leader, who is widely viewed more favorably by the more conservative members. The preferred candidate among many Republicans, Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, [link=http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/paul-ryan-house-speaker-102526]has said he does not want the job[/link].
Wow.
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more time for golf and a cush, high pay job on K-street or financial firm. Maybe think tank. Getting paid for speaking gigs. Livin’ the high life.
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So now he can officially work for Cantor…what follows should be quite interesting…
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with the Bibi decision I knew he was toast…the Pope cleanse his soul and imho he knew he was just not the right person for the job
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that locust is starting to descend on the GOP…watch out Christy
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Good riddance. Now to worry someone worse gets the position.
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with the Bibi decision I knew he was toast…the Pope cleanse his soul and imho he knew he was just not the right person for the job
While I would love to believe that Boehner’s irresponsibility with the Bibi invite led to his demise, that is actually against the grain of the facts. In reality, Boehner was trying to lead a GOP led by insurgents who felt that he was [i]not confrontational enough[/i] with Obama and Democrats.
This is push is coming from his Right flank, who would happily see Netanyahu giving a speech in Congress every other Tuesday.Quote from Frumious
Good riddance. Now to worry someone worse gets the position.
It is almost certain that the next person to hold the gavel will be to the Right of John Boehner. He will likely be vocally conservative, more beholden to the Tea Party, and less likely to compromise than JB.
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if that is the case then the destruction of the party is on…all good ..because Bibi is not an American elected leader and if that is what you hold as your leader then good riddance..traitors we don’t need
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with the Bibi decision I knew he was toast…the Pope cleanse his soul and imho he knew he was just not the right person for the job
While I would love to believe that Boehner’s irresponsibility with the Bibi invite led to his demise, that is actually against the grain of the facts. In reality, Boehner was trying to lead a GOP led by insurgents who felt that he was [i]not confrontational enough[/i] with Obama and Democrats.
This is push is coming from his Right flank, who would happily see Netanyahu giving a speech in Congress every other Tuesday.
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Good riddance. Now to worry someone worse gets the position.
It is almost certain that the next person to hold the gavel will be to the Right of John Boehner. He will likely be vocally conservative, more beholden to the Tea Party, and less likely to compromise than JB.
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this is a story u drop on Friday so why did Scott walker drop his story on Monday(..I believe he is trying to get the 0-3% to drop/narrow the field and have a decent debate where all attacks can be on Trump)
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Let’s be honest, this is a huge loss for Obama and the Democrats.
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Let’s be honest, this is a huge loss for Obama and the Democrats.
Yes, read that again.
Or … a more realistic take:
[url=http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-09-25/boehner-leaves-chaos-in-the-house-and-clarity-in-the-presidential-election]The GOP’s right is crowing over pushing out the speaker. But who’s the biggest beneficiary? Hillary Clinton.[/url]
The biggest winner from Boehner’s move is liable to be Hillary Clinton. Anything that allows her to run against an image of the Republican Party as extreme, chaotic, divisive, and unable to govern is good for her. The media will be largely sympathetic to those arguments in the coming weeks and months, creating a storyline that will to some extent crowd out coverage of the former secretary of state’s e-mail controversy and her sagging political standing.
Boehner was never given enough credit for holding together his caucus and the government in the face of powerful countervailing forces. On his watch, the government shut down briefly, but he cleverly avoided any huge calamities arising from divided government, for which his fans gave him credit. But he also failed to stop Obama from running roughshod over GOP goals on issues such as immigration, Iran, and spending, for which his intra-party critics will never forgive him.
In Washington, the new House leadership is likely to be worse at the first and no better at the second. The resulting tumult is likely to create more gridlock inside the Beltway, even as it brings some clarity to what has been a wild presidential contest.
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That might as well say, “Boehner was never given credit by Republicans for not being proactive on things he said they’d do.”
DUH. Only liberals, as I said, would try to say good things about the guy. He was a fraud. Period.
Clinton is not trusted. If the Dems want to take that chance, so be it. I agree the media will do all it can to cover for her like it does Obama, so she does have that going for her.-
Who said any good things about Boehner? Can you show me a single one? Even Alda didn’t like him & certainly none of the “liberals” posting. Sorry if I missed some good things stated but I can’t think of a one.
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I was mainly referring to the bloomberg article posted by dergon, that’s where the quote is from … it lamented his departure, essentially
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That pope, I tell you. He must have threatened eternal damnation or something.
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but we have to thank him
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That pope, I tell you. He must have threatened eternal damnation or something.
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have to say his exit was a class act…invite the Pope…meet the Pope..go out on the speaker’s balcony with the Pope to show what a jewel of a view he has…and enjoy the applause of the crowd for the Pope…skippity doo da…I would love to meet the Pope and tell him of my gratitude for how the church helped my mother, a single parent raise 4 college graduates while living in proverty …St. Anthony’s pick my family for a toys for tots one Christmas..the military officer I was assigned to came out early during the introduction phase and brought his child for me to play with and I got my first 10 dollar bill
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Too many forget where they came from & look back – and down – at those left behind.
As for Boehner, good riddance!. I’m sure his replacement will be no better or even worse but the shenanigans he and his partner, McConnell did against the best interests of the Country deserve contemp, not thanks.
“Good job, Brownie!”
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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/27/politics/john-boehner-kevin-mccarthy-speakership?sr=nl_pol_092715_houserace&ct=t%28CNNPolitics_com_Nightcap_July_22_20157_22_2015%29]McCarthy assures GOP Congress that he will be more confrontational against Democrats[/url]
He’s hearing from members angry that the GOP Congress has not advanced the conservative cause more forcefully, and he’s responding with a clear message: He is willing to take a more confrontational stand with the White House and the Senate to achieve the results the party has sought to enact, according to several people who have spoken to the House majority leader.
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The lawmakers who have been making calls this weekend to build support for their bids include Reps. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington and Tom Price of Georgia. There are others, too, who may make forays for the No. 2 job, including Reps. Pete Sessions of Texas and Illinois’ Peter Roskam, who successfully pushed for the GOP to hold a private meeting to debate their future before holding leadership elections.
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Sources familiar with the conversations said that lawmakers are espousing “serious” anger with the GOP’s lack of direction — a sentiment that goes well beyond the conservative House Freedom Caucus, a group of about roughly 30 lawmakers who have often fought their party’s leadership. The group has not yet endorsed a candidate for speaker but called Sunday for a “deliberative” process.-
Today is the House leadership vote.
McCarthy still the front runner to get the Speakership, but the “Freedom Caucus” is [url=http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/256270-freedom-caucus-endorses-rep-webster-for-speaker]not happy about it. [/url]
Daniel Webster (R- FL) is being pushed by the Right wing House members. Add to that Chaffetz is now in the race too and it could be an interesting fight.
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So let me get this straight
The country is sick of Washington and politics because they cant get anything done………………………… The republicans want to capitalize on this anti establishment wave…………………..so they want a leader of the house that is more confrontational, less compromising and likely will accomplish even less
Hmmmmmmmm sounds like a recipe for disaster-
I’d like to see the rules change so that bill can be longer than 1 page.
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So let me get this straight
The country is sick of Washington and politics because they cant get anything done………………………… The republicans want to capitalize on this anti establishment wave…………………..so they want a leader of the house that is more confrontational, less compromising and likely will accomplish even less
Hmmmmmmmm sounds like a recipe for disaster
The only problem with that argument is that voters actually elected a minority of Congresspeople for just that purpose alone. They are doing precisely what they were elected to do.
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McCarthy out of running
Pass the popcorn-
how can you have a speaker who can’t TALK..the GOP locust is flying and it will take down the triad of FOX GOP and Bibi
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the Bengazi committee should be shut down…at this point it looks like a political hit job just like the emails ..the GOP obvious plans to alter this election have been outed and they should all resign
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the -email thing is the same as Bengaz..2 hit jobs to kill the Dem candidate..we the people should demand that Congress not be paid as long as this hit job is continued
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JB:..just when I thought I was out they pull me back in
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Another one bites the dust.
Who says the Republicans can govern.
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Just heard an [url=http://www.npr.org/2015/10/09/447098708/rep-mccarthy-stuns-colleagues-by-pulling-out-of-leadership-election]NPR story [/url] on the GOP House schism.
Conservatives wanting not just representation in the leadership, but rules changes to decentralize power in the Party … a recipe for a clusterf*ck.
And one the more moderate Republicans basically was quoted as saying to the Tea Party … “If you don’t like it then leave.”
Devin Nunes (R – CA): “We’re a Democratic Republic. You have to caucus as parties and if you don’t like what happens in your party then you [i]leave[/i] the Republican party and start your own party.”
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So will Ryan run or not?
I’m betting not as he could be the 3rd & final “Young Gun” shot down in a bloodless coup. Running – and especially winning – would mean actually making decisions instead of just policy statements. So that alone might make him squeamish.
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I still want Boehner to go down in blaze of glory. What can he do to stick it to the GOP before he’s retired?
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for Ryan it is a career ending job
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for Ryan it is a career ending job
Exactly why he should take it. It’d be good for America in the long term.
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I still want Boehner to go down in blaze of glory. What can he do to stick it to the GOP before he’s retired?
you may get your wish
[url=http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report-bret-baier/blog/2015/10/08/breaking-john-boehner-has-agreed-stay-speaker] Breaking: John Boehner has agreed to stay on as Speaker[/url]From Bret Baier’s blog —
Speaker John Boehner has agreed to stay on as Speaker–not just until the Caucus nominates someone –but, until that person can confirm 218 votes on the House floor (needed to take the Speakers gavel). Short of that Boehner will stay on for the rest of this Congress and steer legislation that is pending.
What does this mean? Moderates and leadership types are cheering and saying Boehner is the only one they will support. Conservatives will go ballistic since they know this signals that Boehner will make ALL kinds of deals to get big ticket legislation through the House even if it means using Democrats votes to do it.
The news short of another candidate that can get 218 votes (and that looks like a long shot with leadership and moderates lining up behind Boehner)
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I’d love to see Boehner rail road some legislation through.
Cherry on top, punch Harry Reid right in his good eye, then mic drop, Boehner out. Apparently that doof knocked one of eyes out of commission while using an exercise band.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/10/the-long-strange-saga-of-harry-reid-and-the-exercise-band/]https://www.washingtonpos…and-the-exercise-band/[/link]-
Ryan’s been outed, he’s a Leftie according to the Right.
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Ryan’s been outed, he’s a Leftie according to the Right.
In what world is Paul Ryan to the left of …. anyone?!
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Ryan “considering” the post, but only if the Nutbag Caucus agrees to unify behind him. AND, if he still has time for his children.
Funny.
Meanwhile the Nutbags are still attacking him for being insufficiently Conservative. Suspiciously he is not anti-immigrant among other sins. Then there are his other sins of refusing to participate in responsible legislation in the past on budgets, but now these sins come home to roost. Will he light the fuse or will be be a responsible Congressman, placing Country first over Party. He is, after all, claiming to place family first over party. Or is that just more double-speak? -
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Ryan’s been outed, he’s a Leftie according to the Right.
In what world is Paul Ryan to the left of …. anyone?!
F*cking nutbags
Apparently the super majority of the nutbags (nee Freedom Caucus) are going to back him-
So somewhere around 5-10 Tea Party guys are reserving the right to continue to rail against Ryan at will, but Ryan seems to think that’s good enough to get it done.
Man, I think that even with his front-end attempts to gain support from the Right wing it’s still going to get real ugly real fast.
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He should just hand out autographed Paul Ryan glamour shots, or did everyone forget about these.
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Ryan’s demands are like hiring a maid:I don’t do windows…u can’t fire me and I need my time off…like wtf
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He should just hand out autographed Paul Ryan glamour shots, or did everyone forget about these.
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“RINO establishment sellouts”
The Washington crazies become RINO sellouts in their support of Ryan as Speaker.
No, they’re still crazy.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fuming-over-ryan-some-conservative-voices-turn-on-the-freedom-caucus/2015/10/25/8194f3ce-7999-11e5-a958-d889faf561dc_story.html]https://www.washingtonpos…889faf561dc_story.html[/link]
But in recent days, the tone of the comments on Meadowss page, and those of the other members of the hard-right House Freedom Caucus, have changed significantly.
You truly should be ashamed, one commenter wrote Thursday. The people in the caucus will be held responsible come election day.
You should all be replaced, a critic told Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.). Another called Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (R-Idaho), one of the most persistent thorns in Boehners side, a RINO establishment lap dog and another go-along to get along phony who will GLADLY step on the throats of the Conservative electorate.
Things may never be the same for the Freedom Caucus after most of its members moved last week to support Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) as the next House speaker. Suddenly, they may not be conservative enough for some in the party.
The anger over Ryans ascent has been fueled by voices across the conservative media landscape. On the Internet, sites such as [link=http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/21/exclusive-paul-ryan-sold-house-freedom-caucus-a-bill-of-goods-in-private-meeting-on-capitol-hill/]Breitbart.com[/link]and [link=https://twitter.com/LPDonovan/status/656629589448507392]the Drudge Report[/link] have pumped out a steady stream of anti-Ryan stories casting doubt on his record, while such prominent commentators as [link=http://www.erickontheradio.com/2015/10/paul-ryan-is-a-dangerous-pick-for-conservatives/]Erick Erickson[/link], [link=http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-10-21.html]Ann Coulter[/link] and [link=http://www.kausfiles.com/2015/10/22/the-pathetic-house-freedom-caucus/]Mickey Kaus[/link] have sharpened their teeth and urged conservatives to contact lawmakers and tell them to spurn Ryan.
Particularly brutal have been the syndicated talk-radio hosts who have helped foment the anti-establishment outrage that has kept Donald Trump atop the GOP presidential race and forced Jeb Bush, a well-financed mainstream conservative, to undertake a campaign shake-up.
Laura Ingraham last week called Ryan basically John Boehner with better abs and featured segment after segment attacking Ryans positions on trade and immigration. She also mocked his desire to spend his weekends with his family.
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amen..he has nothing to lose now..tell the 40 where to go
now how about that nasty gossip concerning a suspected affair and an email that the next speaker needs to pass the vetting process
Ryan got to be Romney’s VP so so far we know he has passed an initial sniff testQuote from DICOM_Dan
I still want Boehner to go down in blaze of glory. What can he do to stick it to the GOP before he’s retired?
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Republicans and their constituents don’t believe in American Democracy in spite of claiming to carry a pocket Constitution. They don’t understand the process & actually don’t like it.
Regarding Ryan, the Tea Party types don’t like him either as a squishy sellout so I don’t think he would find the job any easier than Boehner does and I’m sure he knows it. Who wouldn’t. The radicals in the Tea Party fantasize about closing down the Federal government and more, just listen to Cruz. Who could meet those fantasies while even pretending to govern?
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[url=http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/258677-obama-to-boehner-man-im-gonna-miss-you]Obama to Boehner: “Boehner, man, I’m gonna miss you.”[/url]
Boehner: “Yes you are Mr. President. Yes you are.”
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[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-reynoldsamerican-board-idUSKCN11L2FD]Camel Smoker Boehner joins Board at Reynolds[/url]
When Boehner left last year, incoming speaker Paul Ryan said he had to “detoxify the environment” in his predecessor’s old office. Ryan famously quipped that the office smelled like a hotel room or rental car that had been smoked in. (reut.rs/2cY9zjb)
Boehner’s appointment comes at a time when the tobacco industry is fighting a growing tide of regulation and taxes over its products, including those seen less harmful such as e-cigarettes. Earlier this year, the U.S. government took wide-ranging steps to crack down on e-cigarettes and cigars, which are growing in popularity among teens, and banned sales to anyone under age 18.
Reynolds American, which also makes Newport menthol cigarettes, said Boehner will join the board as a Class 2 director, and serve on the board’s corporate governance, nominating and sustainability committee, effective immediately.
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I actually saw some video of him driving around his luxo-boat RV. Like a retired boss. Going golf course to golf course.
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[b]John Boehner Unloads[/b][/h1]
[link=https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/04/02/john-boehner-book-memoir-excerpt-478506]Politico[/link] has an excerpt of John Boehners scorching new book, [i][link=https://amzn.to/2R2EZJh]On the House[/link][/i].
On the 2010 midterms: You could be a total moron and get elected just by having an R next to your nameand that year, by the way, we did pick up a fair number in that category.
On Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX): By 2013 the chaos caucus in the House had built up their own power base thanks to fawning right-wing media and outrage-driven fundraising cash. And now they had a new head lunatic leading the way, who wasnt even a House member. There is nothing more dangerous than a reckless asshole who thinks he is smarter than everyone else. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Senator Ted Cruz.
On Barack Obama: All of this crap swirling around was going to make it tough for me to cut any deals with Obama as the new House Speaker. Of course, it has to be said that Obama didnt help himself much either. He could come off as lecturing and haughty. He still wasnt making Republican outreach a priority. But on the other handhow do you find common cause with people who think you are a secret Kenyan Muslim traitor to America?-
[link=https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1378005545718800388]https://twitter.com/jonat…us/1378005545718800388[/link]
“ps- Ted Cruz, go f*ck yourself.” ~ John boehner-
Love it.
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[link=https://www.salon.com/2021/04/09/john-boehner-doesnt-deserve-a-rehabilitation-tour-mayor-of-gops-crazytown-sparked-rise-of-trump/]https://www.salon.com/202…sparked-rise-of-trump/[/link]
[h1]John Boehner doesn’t deserve a rehabilitation tour: Mayor of GOP’s “Crazytown” sparked rise of Trump[/h1] [h2]The former speaker wants to remake himself into a respected elder statesman, but he helped turn the GOP radical[/h2]
When he was speaker during the Barack Obama presidency, Boehner fully leaned into the role as a destructive troll, ready to pander heavily to the Tea Party forces that were in a full-blown panic over the idea of a Black president and ready to do whatever it took to destroy his presidency. Under Boehner’s leadership, House Republicans developed a variety of strategies aimed at kneecapping the popular Democratic president and forcing his main legislative achievement, the Affordable Care Act, into failure. Republicans believed and continue to believe that the best way to win politically was to tank economic recovery and expanded health care access, and then turn around and blame the Democratic president for what they themselves did. Boehner’s main strategy was centered around tactics such as hostage-taking and brinkmanship.
….By indulging these kinds of antics, Boehner helped further radicalize the GOP, encouraging both Republican politicians and voters to believe that it would be better to burn the U.S. to the ground than to allow an increasingly progressive, racially diverse majority to govern. Under Boehner’s leadership, blatant sexism, barely coded racism, and outright disinformation became central tactics in the war to gut Obama’s presidency. For instance, [link=https://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2015/09/25/planned-parenthood-fight-costs-john-boehner-his-job/?sh=2ff6d27910d9]Boehner made defunding Planned Parenthood a centerpiece [/link]of the debt ceiling and government shutdown showdowns, exploiting misogynist resentment in order to push his agenda of slashing social spending. And [link=https://www.salon.com/2009/08/14/death_switch/]Boehner happily fed the “death panels” lie[/link], which was a myth promoted by right-wing media that suggested the government was going to start killing old white people to free up health care resources for younger, more racially diverse Americans.
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Boehner is lying to himself. He is a true Dr. Frankenstein figure, taken out by the monster he helped create. For years, Boehner happily encouraged and led an increasingly paranoid, delusional right that was driven to political madness over the existence of a Black president and the social changes pointing towards a more progressive America. He let Tea Party racism flourish unchecked, viewing it as a valuable tool to garner support for his failed brinkmanship tactics. He helped pave the way for the rise of Trump, who harnessed all this white resentment and anger that Republicans cultivated under Boehner’s leadership. And this should be his legacy, not some too-little-too-late last ditch effort to make himself over into a voice of reason and common sense.
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There are many Republicans who deserve no rehabilitation but at least Boehner is doing something of a mea culpa, something of anathema for the majority of Republicans. This irrational reactionary radicalization of the GOP has been happening for decades, four to be precise starting with Reagan then Newt and has got progressively crazier since.
The Crazy Party is in no short supply of crazy.
Interesting short interview this morning.
[link=https://www.npr.org/2021/04/12/985722549/john-boehner-on-the-noisemakers-of-the-republican-party]https://www.npr.org/2021/…f-the-republican-party[/link]
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I don’t really see Boehner as being that divisive a figure. It was more business as usual GOP stuff under him. I get that he had the deal with the Tea baggers. He also just kind of unceremoniously did the “Ah fudge it” and retired.
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