[Unknown Member]

We will truly become the laughing stocks of the entire world
if Crazy Uncle Joe ever becomes President.  He is the kind of
guy that doesn’t know how stupid he is.  He thinks that everyone
is laughing with him when they are laughing at him.  It’s scary because the typical democrat
doesn’t care as long as a loony democrat is telling them how to think
and how to vote.  The Republicans want to put y’all in chains………
If you thought Mr. Obama was an embarrassment you’ve seen nothing yet. What will the crazy libs use as an excuse if Mr Biden becomes President…….Republicans oppose Mr. Biden’s policies because he is a 
white caucasian christian?

[Unknown Member]

Ok  go play with yourself now
 
 

[btomba_77]

I think Biden has both the temperament and experience to be a successful President.  
 
I hope he runs and runs well.  It’s good for the Democratic party.
 
 
 
I would also add that in an election cycle that seems to be favoring candidates with “authenticity” and “spontaneity” , Biden’s gaffes on trail might be a welcome breath of life into the Democratic Primary process.

[btomba_77]

Politico: [url=http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-biden-secretary-of-state-230428]Biden top candidate for Secetary of State in Clinton administration[/url]

Joe Biden is at the top of the internal short list Hillary Clintons transition team is preparing for her pick to be secretary of state, a source familiar with the planning tells POLITICO.

This would be the first major Cabinet candidate to go public for a campaign thats insisted its focus remains on winning the election, and perhaps the most central choice for a potential president who was a secretary of state herself.

Neither Clinton, nor her aides have yet told Biden. According to the source, theyre strategizing about how to make the approach to the vice president, who almost ran against her in the Democratic primaries but has since been campaigning for her at a breakneck pace all over the country in these final months.

[ruszja]

Quote from dergon

Politico: [link=http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-biden-secretary-of-state-230428]Biden top candidate for Secetary of State in Clinton administration[/link]

Joe Biden is at the top of the internal short list Hillary Clintons transition team is preparing for her pick to be secretary of state, a source familiar with the planning tells POLITICO.

This would be the first major Cabinet candidate to go public for a campaign thats insisted its focus remains on winning the election, and perhaps the most central choice for a potential president who was a secretary of state herself.

Neither Clinton, nor her aides have yet told Biden. According to the source, theyre strategizing about how to make the approach to the vice president, who almost ran against her in the Democratic primaries but has since been campaigning for her at a breakneck pace all over the country in these final months.

 
Oh my. He is senile. SOS is a travel job, not the right fit for an 80 year old. Maybe he could be ambassador to San Marino or the Vatican.

[kaldridgewv2211]

always the brides maid, never the bride.

[Unknown Member]

He actually looks good for 76

He’d be a good pick for secretary of state

[Unknown Member]

Quote from kpack123

He actually looks good for 76

He’d be a good pick for secretary of state

 
agreed.  i think it’s a lock that not only will Hillary offer him SOS, he will also accept.

[btomba_77]

Quote from stir22

Quote from kpack123

He actually looks good for 76

He’d be a good pick for secretary of state

agreed.  i think it’s a lock that not only will Hillary offer him SOS, he will also accept.

Seeing the amount of energy he has on the trail and his clear enjoyment of campaigning makes me think Biden is in no way ready to hang ’em up yet.
 
I think he’s a good pick and bet he’ll take it too.

[Unknown Member]

Quote from dergon

Quote from stir22

Quote from kpack123

He actually looks good for 76

He’d be a good pick for secretary of state

agreed.  i think it’s a lock that not only will Hillary offer him SOS, he will also accept.

Seeing the amount of energy he has on the trail and his clear enjoyment of campaigning makes me think Biden is in no way ready to hang ’em up yet.

I think he’s a good pick and bet he’ll take it too.

 
Yep.  Hillary will do something for him since he opted out of the presidential race.  SOS would be the best place for him.  I mean, how cool would it be for the Sec’y of State to roll up to foreign embassies in his camaro, and do a few cookies?  H@ll, even Assad would have to admire that…

[btomba_77]

There has been a lot of buzz over whether Biden would jump back in for 2020. He’s been in New Hampshire and started upping hi public profile.
 
BUt …
 
[url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/joe-biden-election-2020/]Joe Biden won’t rule out 2020 run …. he says while giving paid speech to a Hedge Fund conference[/url]

“I may very well do it,” Biden said at the SALT hedge fund conference in Las Vegas.

My take: 
Biden is smart.  He saw 2016 and what Sanders was able to do to Clinton over paid speeches.  And if anything the base of the Democratic party has gone more Left and more anti-Wall Street since.   
Elizabeth Warren would wield exactly the same sledge hammer against Biden in 2020. Biden knows that.

Biden wouldn’t be cashing in giving six-figure speeches to hedge fund guys if he was serious about 2020. 
Therefore … Biden ain’t running.

[ruszja]

Quote from dergon

My take: 
Biden is smart.  He saw 2016 and what Sanders was able to do to Clinton over paid speeches.  And if anything the base of the Democratic party has gone more Left and more anti-Wall Street since.   
Elizabeth Warren would wield exactly the same sledge hammer against Biden in 2020. Biden knows that.

Biden wouldn’t be cashing in giving six-figure speeches to hedge fund guys if he was serious about 2020. 
Therefore … Biden ain’t running.

He is also senile. 
 
I bet Pence would love to run against him.

[100574]

not to mention the whole saga of his son and the wife of his son who died–the media would be all over that

Quote from dergon

There has been a lot of buzz over whether Biden would jump back in for 2020. He’s been in New Hampshire and started upping hi public profile.

BUt …

[link=http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/joe-biden-election-2020/]Joe Biden won’t rule out 2020 run …. he says while giving paid speech to a Hedge Fund conference[/link]

“I may very well do it,” Biden said at the SALT hedge fund conference in Las Vegas.

My take: 
Biden is smart.  He saw 2016 and what Sanders was able to do to Clinton over paid speeches.  And if anything the base of the Democratic party has gone more Left and more anti-Wall Street since.   
Elizabeth Warren would wield exactly the same sledge hammer against Biden in 2020. Biden knows that.

Biden wouldn’t be cashing in giving six-figure speeches to hedge fund guys if he was serious about 2020. 
Therefore … Biden ain’t running.

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/01/us/politics/joe-biden-presidential-campaign-2020.html?utm_campaign=news-alert&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nuzzel]New York Times[/link]: [b]How Biden Has Prepared for a Presidential Bid

[/b]He has done so while building a network of nonprofits and academic centers that are staffed by his closest strategists and advisers, many making six figures while working on the issues most closely identified with him. It has effectively become a campaign-in-waiting, poised to metamorphose if the 76-year-old Mr. Biden announces his third bid for the presidency.

Mr. Biden is expected to reveal his plans early this year, after consulting with his family over the holidays. Having skipped the 2016 race after the grueling death of his elder son, Beau, from brain cancer, he would enter the coming Democratic contest as an early front-runner. With his political self-branding as Middle-Class Joe, he is seen by Democratic strategists as well equipped to make inroads into President Trumps base of blue-collar white voters.

[kaldridgewv2211]

All the usual corpses appear to have interest. Biden and Sanders. Plus Warren who I think is DOA.

[ruszja]

‘Middle class Joe’ ? He is better known as Joe Biden (D-MBNA)

He would be 78 during the campaign. Two stubborn old guys running for office, that’s what we need.

Isn’t there anyone else ?

[Unknown Member]

Kinda wonder if Sherrod Brown runs

I dont see a pathway for truyif he doesnt win Ohio

Brown could win the state

[kaldridgewv2211]

Even though he had a good showing for Senate I think Ohio would be more favorable to a Brown bid if it wasn’t as gerrymandered.

I was reading about average Joe earlier. His speaking fee is $100k plus a private jet. Just you average guy Joe. You could have a beer with him.

So many of these career public officials have gotten wealthy from their positions.

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

Kinda wonder if Sherrod Brown runs

I dont see a pathway for truyif he doesnt win Ohio

Brown could win the state

 
I would like to see Brown run. He has a message, he is not a liberal nut and he is not tainted by involvement in prior administrations.
 
Oh, and he speaks russian. That way he can directly talk to the folks giving directions to the US president 😉

[Unknown Member]

Im thinking no way trump can win if he cannot win Ohio

No pathway

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/biden-2020-foreign-policy-national-security-1228345]Politico[/link]: [b]Global leaders want Biden to run[/b]

In several conversations with European leaders in Munich, Biden heard a repeated refrain, according to a conference attendee familiar with the conversations: The world needs you. Citing Bidens long foreign policy track record and longtime commitment to the trans-Atlantic alliance, some of the leaders echoing views from across the continent told Biden that his return to the White House would be a sure way to restore western alliances that President Trump has dramatically fractured.

[ruszja]

He is exactly what the country needs.

[kaldridgewv2211]

Quote from dergon

[link=https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/biden-2020-foreign-policy-national-security-1228345]Politico[/link]: [b]Global leaders want Biden to run[/b]

In several conversations with European leaders in Munich, Biden heard a repeated refrain, according to a conference attendee familiar with the conversations: The world needs you. Citing Bidens long foreign policy track record and longtime commitment to the trans-Atlantic alliance, some of the leaders echoing views from across the continent told Biden that his return to the White House would be a sure way to restore western alliances that President Trump has dramatically fractured.

I saw a headline, didn’t click through, that Biden was telling his close allies that he’s running.  There’s also articles being put out about he’s considering a running mate already.

[btomba_77]

Yeah. He’s trying to figure out a way to clear to the field from the moment he runs.
 
Not sure he’s going to be able to do that.  A lot of Dems feel burned by the Hillary “anointment”  and even if they like Biden want to see a true primary process this time around.
 
 

[btomba_77]

I’m dergon and I approve this message:

[h1]Bidens Plan for Early Veep Pick Is a Bad Idea[/h1]

[link=https://www.vox.com/2019/3/20/18272729/joe-bidens-vp-selection]Matthew Yglesias[/link]: The selection of a vice president is one of the most substantively important decisions a president makes. You want to draw from the broadest possible talent pool, and making the selection early is antithetical to that on a whole number of levels most importantly because a lot of key talent wont necessarily be willing to embrace your cause so early. (Including the rest of the field running for the nomination.)

Locking yourself into the relatively narrow category of politicians who are willing to make an early Joe Biden endorsement ends up excluding a huge number of people, could prove tactically disadvantageous during a general election, and would be a blown opportunity to improve governance if Biden won.

( I would add that it also makes him look weak… as if he couldn’t win on his own merits)
 

[btomba_77]

[h1]Biden Leads In Nevada[/h1]

A new [link=https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/nevada-2020-biden-and-sanders-lead-democratic-primary-field-trump-looks-to-flip-the-silver-state-red]Emerson College poll[/link] in Nevada shows Joe Biden leading the Democratic primary race with 26% support, followed by Bernie Sanders at 23%, Beto ORourke at 10%, Elizabeth Warren at 10%, Kamala Harris at 9%, and Pete Buttigieg at 5%.
 

[Unknown Member]

You mean a guy who doesnt get in Twitter fights with dead people on Saturday morning at 4:00 am

[btomba_77]

Michael Smerconish ran a poll on his SiriusXM radio show as to whether listeners felt that Biden’s behavior was disqualifying for a presidential run…. 94% say No. (nearly 15,000 votes… not scientifc polling, but should hearten the Biden people)
 
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[b]Biden Holds Large Lead In South Carolina[/b]

A new [link=https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/biden-still-leads-but-abrams-buttigieg-join-front-runners-in/article_2c8f9d32-57eb-11e9-abc5-531783c41f18.html]Change Research poll[/link] in South Carolina finds Joe Biden continues to hold a large lead in the Democratic presidential primary with 32%.

Biden is followed by Bernie Sanders at 14%, Kamala Harris at 10%, Cory Booker at 9%, Beto ORourke at 9%, Stacey Abrams at 7%, Pete Buttigieg at 7% and Elizabeth Warren at 6%.

[ruszja]

Quote from dergon

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[b]Biden Holds Large Lead In South Carolina[/b]

A new [link=https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/biden-still-leads-but-abrams-buttigieg-join-front-runners-in/article_2c8f9d32-57eb-11e9-abc5-531783c41f18.html]Change Research poll[/link] in South Carolina finds Joe Biden continues to hold a large lead in the Democratic presidential primary with 32%.

Biden is followed by Bernie Sanders at 14%, Kamala Harris at 10%, Cory Booker at 9%, Beto ORourke at 9%, Stacey Abrams at 7%, Pete Buttigieg at 7% and Elizabeth Warren at 6%.

 
If you added ‘Mickey Mouse’ or ‘Michael Jordan’ in the poll, they would get 30%. Biden has run three times for president and was VP, if you ask people in a poll and they answer without thinking, they will pick the name that they recognize.

[kayla.meyer_144]

It is also very early.

[btomba_77]

Quote from Frumious

It is also very early.

 

If you added ‘Mickey Mouse’ or ‘Michael Jordan’ in the poll, they would get 30%. Biden has run three times for president and was VP, if you ask people in a poll and they answer without thinking, they will pick the name that they recognize.

 
Yep and Yep.  Presidents Giuliani, Jeb Bush and Howard Dean all nod.  
 
But still … in a large field you’d rather be the guy with big name ID than the guy who can’t break through.
 
 

[ruszja]

Quote from dergon

Quote from Frumious

It is also very early.

If you added ‘Mickey Mouse’ or ‘Michael Jordan’ in the poll, they would get 30%. Biden has run three times for president and was VP, if you ask people in a poll and they answer without thinking, they will pick the name that they recognize.

Yep and Yep.  Presidents Giuliani, Jeb Bush and Howard Dean all nod.  

 
Neither of them had a national profile of Mickey Mouse. Trump otoh had such a national profile and he became president.

[btomba_77]

[h1]Biden Still Leads Field After Rough Week[/h1]

A new [link=https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/08/joe-biden-poll-2020-democrats-1261926]Politico/Morning Consult survey[/link] finds Joe Biden still atop the list of presidential candidates with the support of 32% of voters who say they intend to participate in a Democratic primary or caucus next year.

He is 9 points ahead of the next closest candidate: Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), at 23%.

[link=https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/08/early-state-democrats-biden-1261925]Politico[/link]: Bidens support stays solid in early states.
 

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[btomba_77]

[img]https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/screen_shot_2019-04-09_at_2.05.18_pm.jpg[/img]

[link=https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/438071-democratic-voters-confident-that-biden-and-sanders-can-defeat]https://thehill.com/hillt…and-sanders-can-defeat[/link]

[b]Biden most likely to have “at least some chance” to beat Trump … opinion of both Dem and GOP voters[/b]

Democrats are most confident that former Vice President [link=https://thehill.com/people/joe-biden]Joe Biden[/link] and Sen. [link=https://thehill.com/people/bernie-sanders]Bernie Sanders[/link](I-Vt.) can defeat [link=https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump]President Trump[/link] in a general election, according to a new Hill-HarrisX poll.

In the survey, 75 percent of Democratic respondents said that they believed that Biden had a strong or some chance of beating Trump in the general election next year, while 64 percent said the same of Sanders. 

The poll found that 49 percent of Democrats said Biden had a strong chance of winning while 26 percent said he had some chance. Only 10 percent said they believed that Biden had a small chance of winning while just 5 percent said he had almost no chance. Fifteen percent said they were unsure.

Thirty-one percent of Democrats said Sanders had a strong chance of victory while 33 percent said he had some chance of winning. Eighteen percent said that Sanders had only a small chance of beating the president while 7 percent said they believed he had almost no chance. Twelve percent were unsure.

Republicans polled thought that all of the Democratic hopefuls would fall to Trump, but Biden is seen as the greatest threat.

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[ruszja]

Quote from dergon

[image]https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/screen_shot_2019-04-09_at_2.05.18_pm.jpg[/image]

[link=https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/438071-democratic-voters-confident-that-biden-and-sanders-can-defeat]https://thehill.com/hillt…and-sanders-can-defeat[/link]

[b]Biden most likely to have “at least some chance” to beat Trump … opinion of both Dem and GOP voters[/b]

 
Given how awful the president is and how he has this chaotic failed presidency, it is rather humorous that a poll about the dem candidate has to be worded that way.

[Unknown Member]

Considering its a poll of all voters

It really isnt worded bad

It would be different if it was just a poll of democrats

[kayla.meyer_144]

I am not that worried about 2020. Biden is the “safe” choice & we saw what happened with the “safe” choice in 2016. But things will likely be different. And Trump isn’t dead certain either, he’s hitting all the hot button issues with full on paranoid fantasy exaggerations. “Nothing to see here folks unless you’ve got drunk on the Kool-aid!”
 
You can bet the farm that in 2020 we will see even more Russian tinkering and Republican “collusion,” by turning a blind eye and active measures such as full on voter suppression as much as they can get away with. And inventing stories about Democratic candidates.
 
A real concern is whether Democrats should take the “safe route” or go left & talk about issues like health care, climate, infrastructure, jobs, wages, etc. They should go to war on voter suppression and Russian interference and Republican cooperation with those measures. That said, Biden’s campaign is kicking off as the anti-Trump and his version of MAGA. I think that is an excellent idea to cut Trump off at the knees. After all, what exactly has Trump done for his people besides numerous rallies hailing him as the Great Leader? You can see that at any rally at any 2-bit dictatorship country starting with Venezuela. 
 
What really is the issue however is how Trump supporters can mutually declare Trump and his administration as “awful” and “chaotic failed presidency” and still support the man. Like I’ve said before, who else do they have? What policies do they have?
 
Nothing at all. No where to go. No mea culpas there.
 
One thing to be said, cigar/F@gar/Blast have won in one thing, it got its wish in destroying what the Republican Party once stood for and now have made it into the Trump Party.
 
“All for one and that One is Donald Trump!”
 
Republicans have sold their soul for pittance.
 
The Washington Examiner did a round table in ‘What it means to be a Conservative in the Trump Era.”
 
[link=https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-conservative-in-the-age-of-trump/]https://www.washingtonexa…e-in-the-age-of-trump/[/link]
 
Interesting read, those opposed to Trump have essentially moved on past the Party while the others have enthusiastically signed on board. Erik Erikson said it best, once a Never-Trumper he has now signed on the Trump Party. He felt ignored so he wanted attention again & the  only way to get it is to join the Trump ship. 
 
It’s so full of holes it’s sinking. The question is how much of America will it take down with it.
 
As David French said in the article:
 

[b]To be conservative in the age of Trump is to be constantly confronted with a question: Did you really believe what you said? That is, did you mean it when you argued for decades that character matters in politicians? When you stated clearly and unequivocally that lying under oath or causing others to lie under oath was grounds for impeachment? When you condemned unnecessary divisiveness and blatant identity politics? When you lamented the negative cultural effect of the Clinton presidency in spite of the economic prosperity?[/b]

 
 

 
 
 

[btomba_77]

[h1]Biden Leads the Pack In Iowa[/h1]

A new [link=https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll-ia-041119/]Monmouth poll[/link] in Iowa finds Joe Biden leads the Democratic presidential race with 27%, followed by Bernie Sanders at 16%, Pete Buttigieg at 9%, Elizabeth Warren at 7%, Kamala Harris at 7%, Beto ORourke at 6%, Amy Klobuchar at 4%, Cory Booker at 3% and Julián Castro at 2%.

Key findings: Biden does especially well among voters age 65 and older (44%), those earning less than $50,000 a year (38%), and those without a college degree (34%). On the ideological spectrum, Bidens support comes more from self-described moderates and conservatives (35%) than from liberals (20%), but the same is true for Sanders although to a lesser degree (20% non-liberals, 13% liberals).

Said pollster Patrick Murray: If Biden does get into this race, hell start out as a clear front-runner in Iowa. Not only does he garner support from crucial demographic groups but he is almost universally well-liked among all Democratic voters.
 

[btomba_77]

[h1]Biden to Campaign as Extension of Obama Movement[/h1]

Joe Biden is finalizing the framework for a White House campaign that would cast him as an extension of Barack Obamas presidency and political movement. Hes betting that the majority of Democratic voters are eager to return to the style and substance of that era and that theyll view him as the best option to lead the way back.

The former Vice President has begun testing the approach as he nears an expected campaign launch later this month. After remarks at a recent labor union event, Biden said he was proud to be an Obama-Biden Democrat, coining a term that his advisers define as pragmatic and progressive, and a bridge between the working-class white voters who have long had an affinity for Biden and the younger, more diverse voters who backed Obama in historic numbers.
 

[Unknown Member]

[btomba_77]

Biden is in:
 
[link]https://youtu.be/VbOU2fTg6cI[/link]
 
Early pollng looks good … if he can get through the Dem primary
 
 
[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/440518-biden-leads-trump-by-8-points-in-hypothetical-2020-matchup-poll]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig…0-matchup-poll[/link]
[h1]Biden leads Trump by 8 points in hypothetical 2020 matchup[/h1]  

Former Vice President [link=https://thehill.com/people/joe-biden]Joe Biden[/link] leads [link=https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump]President Trump[/link] by 8 percentage points in a hypothetical 2020 general election matchup, according to a new [link=https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/190452_crosstabs_POLITICO_RVs_v1.pdf]Morning Consult/Politico poll[/link]. 

The poll, released Wednesday, shows Biden with the support of 42 percent of registered voters in the potential matchup, while Trump is backed by 34 percent of voters. Another 19 percent said they aren’t sure who they would support, and 5 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

Biden has yet to officially enter the presidential race [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440221-biden-to-enter-race-thursday-arguing-he-can-put-end-to-trump-divide]but is expected to formally launch his campaign for the Democratic nomination on Thursday.[/link] He is likely to argue that he can unify both the Democratic Party and the country.

The Morning Consult/Politico poll also found that Biden, who has faced accusations that he has inappropriately touched women over the years, has greater support than Trump among women. The poll shows 45 percent of women backing Biden and 28 percent backing Trump.

Biden also leads Trump by 22 points among millennials, according to the poll.

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-30/biden-solidifies-primary-lead-in-trio-of-post-announcement-polls?srnd=premium]https://www.bloomberg.com…ent-polls?srnd=premium[/link]

[h1]Biden Solidifies Primary Lead in Trio of Post-Announcement Polls[/h1]

a CNN [link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/terminal/PQRSECMB2SJK]poll[/link] registered an 11-point bounce for the races newest entrant, with 39 percent of voters who are Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents saying he is their top choice for the nomination.

That puts Biden 20 points ahead of his next-closest rival, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. The poll found Biden leading every demographic group.

Biden more than doubled his advantage over Sanders, from 6 to 14 points, among likely Democratic primary voters according to a Morning Consult [link=https://morningconsult.com/2019/04/29/biden-posts-6-point-bump-among-likely-democratic-voters-amid-campaign-launch/]poll[/link]. Among likely New Hampshire Democratic primary voters, a Suffolk University/Boston Globe [link=https://www2.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/04/29/biden-followed-sanders-and-buttigieg-lead-among-democrats-survey/Gs0gireOuJxvw5SfTTy5wM/story.html]survey[/link] showed Biden leading with support from 20 percent followed by Sanders 12 percent.
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[btomba_77]

Mike Holmgren endorses Joe Biden. I think this could have some pull with a few Wisconsin voters

[link=https://twitter.com/jessieopie/status/1313647720717000710?s=21]https://twitter.com/jessieopie/statu…717000710?s=21[/link]

Former Packers coach Mike Holmgren speaks out again: pic.twitter.com/1yELDwjyjt

— Jessie Opoien (@jessieopie) October 7, 2020

[btomba_77]

The Quinnipiac poll shows why Biden is the clear frontrunner.

Among Democrats, 56% of respondents say Biden has the best chance to defeat Donald Trump next year even though just 38% currently pick him as their favorite. Meanwhile, 12% of Democrats say Bernie Sanders has the best chance to defeat Trump, while just 11% currently back him.

That suggests Biden has a much higher ceiling for growing his support, while Sanders really only has his base.

Of course, there are plenty of dangers from being the frontrunner so early in the race. It will ensure that the other candidates start training most, if not all, of their fire on him. Weve seen many early frontrunners over the years Rudy Giuliani, Jeb Bush implode as the race goes on.

But these polls will help Biden raise a lot of money in the short term, especially from Democrats who just want to beat Trump next year.

[btomba_77]

Trumps Biden Bashing Splits Advisers[/h1]  
As the 2020 Democratic presidential field began to form earlier this year, Trump campaign officials received a directive from the presidents son-in-law and adviser Jared Kushner: Dont meddle in primary politics, [link=https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/01/trump-joe-biden-advisers-1296864]Politico[/link] reports.
Targeting specific Democratic presidential hopefuls was at best a waste of timeand could even be counterproductive, Kushner warned.
 
One school of thought holds that an early front-runner like Biden must be attacked early and often. Another argues that engaging Biden gives the Democrat exactly what he wants in a 20-candidate primary field: the image that he is already waging a head-to-head battle with a rattled incumbent.
 
Said one Trump adviser: Weve asked him Ive personally asked him to stop. Its not helping us. Its helping Biden, said one Trump adviser.

 

[ruszja]

In related news, Hunter Biden (the cocaine using one who had dad do his bidding in China and Ukraine), just split from his girlfriend who was the widow of Beau Biden (the one who turned daddies fame into a government job in DE).

That must have been an awkward Thanksgiving dinner.

[Unknown Member]

Mr morality comes out with a snarky negative comment

Seriously do you have any friends?

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

Mr morality comes out with a snarky negative comment

Seriously do you have any friends?

Look ! The forum patrol is out in force.

Do you have a life ?

Hunter Biden is mostly news because of his dad’s bragging on how he used the power of the US government to get him off the hook on corruption charges. Nothing to see here, banana republic business as usual.

But Hunter dumping wife and kids to shack up with his brothers widow. That’s daytime soap material. Can’t pass that up.

[Unknown Member]

Ok Mr positivity

You keep up the good work now

[kayla.meyer_144]

Ah, another Hillary-uranium fake-news distraction being attempted by the Right? 
 
Forget Trump’s collaboration, look at Hillary! I mean Biden!
 
BENGHAZI!

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

Frumi and KPack do you guys suffer from Belpharospasm when you look at the dems? The constant posts and your act like its only the right that does this stuff is ridiculous. Both sides are bad and there are corrupt lying individuals on both sides. The dems have a laundry list of issues that the only reason does not get attention is because of  the mostly leaning left media.
 
If a GOP family member w high administrative connections did what the Bidens did the media would be screaming special counsel and collusion.
Why dont you post about the behaviors of the left?

[Unknown Member]

No no no no

The republicans definitely own the moral high ground

Your guy is divorced twice has kids to 3 different woman

Cheated on his current wife with porn stars and other sluts

Has filed for bankruptcy multiple times

Has screwed multiple contractors out of payment for work done

……. but joe Bidens son was apparently seeing his dead brothers ex-wife

So its all apples to fng apples

Sure it is…… just keep telling yourself that

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

I don’t care who Hunter Biden is dating, has dated, will date nor did I mention his dating. Your constant posting of issues about the right while acting if the dems are w/o scandal and lies is ridiculous.
 
Here was my point on Biden.
The current leading Democratic candidate for President is on tape laughing and telling the story of how he got a prosecutor in the Ukraine fired.  But while telling the story he left out one important point  that the same prosecutor he got fired was investigating his son Hunter for money that left a Ukraine gas company, of which he somehow he got a  seat on their Board. (by the way I posted about this months ago and only to be ridiculed and now it is rearing its ugly head)

That same son of the current leading Democratic candidate for President accompanied his VP daddy on an official trip to China and came away with a $1B deal w the Chinese government, a regime that kills,  for his little tiny investment  firm.
Where are your posts? Why isn’t CNN and MSNBC running hours long segments w all kinds of talking heads?
 
Coincidentally [i]The Federalist[/i] just released a story today telling Biden he needs to come clean on his family dealings. 
 
You started a thread entitled [i]Our President is a Russian Agent. [/i]Obviously it is now known you were wrong. In fact you were very wrong. So I ask, when will you start a thread entitled [i]The leading Democratic candidate for President and his son are Chinese agent[/i]s?
 
Where is yours and Frumi and Dergon’s rage over the VP of the USA son taking money from a murdering regime arranged while his daddy was on an official government trip?

[Unknown Member]

Again its all apples to apples

Your guy is Russian agent who lies daily about nearly everything

But the other side is unpatriotic

Just keep telling yourself that

Just like WMD stockpiles

Same sheet

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

How many times are you going to keep repeating WMD?
 
Never said I was alright w Trump. In fact I have said otherwise. Sober? Typical demo play book. Pivot and hurl an insult about an issue you want to ignore. Yup Russia is one thing but we are OK w murdering regime like China making deals that profit the family of our potentially next president. You better get your belpharospasm looked at. Don’t want you to miss anything.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Bull sh!te, ixrayu. 
 
You are the one throwing distractions around. When exactly have you ever taken your own advice & criticized Republicans? I have criticized Democrats for years in my many posts but my problem is the contrast is too great. Who is a good Republican to support and why? Romney? OK but he’s almost gelded while all the other Republicans have gelded themselves in order to curry favor with Trump, Trumpets and the Trump Party. OK, You hate Democrats but I don’t & I seem them as magnitudes better than REpublicans have been for years. No decades. Especially since Gingrich made partisanship a scorched earth policy, since McConnell decided that opposition to Obama 101% was the only way to go, the Country be damned, whether getting us out of the recession or anything else.
 
Please tell me what constructive policies have Republicans attempted over the past 3 decades? Honestly. What are they? When you find them maybe we can talk how Democrats aren’t perfect but Republicans are what agin? Better than Democrats because why exactly?
 
Oh, Biden’s involvement in Ukraine is so much worse than what? Trump’s what? Oh, you don’t like Trump. so who out there is the Republican guy/woman you actually do support and why exactly?
 
Hot air accomplishes nothing. Mirror time ixrayu. Mea culpa time. Then talk.
 
Read my post about the forum by Conservatives in the Washington Beacon about being a conservative in the Trump party & tell me where exactly you fit in?
 
I’ll tell you I don’t. I did not sell my soul. Between Democratic party and the GOP there is no choice for me, Democratic warts and all.
 
If I had a nickel everytime you people came up with the lame argument how we liberals never criticize our own I’d be rich. Obviously you don’t read much outside of your echo chambers otherwise you’d be reading numerous articles about how the “liberal media” is always posing questions about the extreme left candidates with extreme left ideas, “old Bernie” and youngster AOC el al. 
 
But at least they have CONSTRUCTIVE ideas they are willing to discuss while the Right is just  “CAN’T DO!” anything!
you aren’t paying attention at all.
 
 
 

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

No mea culpa coming. Wow such rage. Never said one party was better. I have simply pointed out that both sides are bad and are becoming ineffective. I want the Congress to do their jobs. I want them to solve immigration and health care for starters. I want this constant obstruction by both sides to stop.  Work for us not the party.  It is not good for the country.  There is blame on both sides.
 
[b][i]When exactly have you ever taken your own advice & criticized Republicans?[/i][/b]
I do not need to waste hours of my time making thousands of posts to satisfy some obsessive political bias.  My time is too valuable to come on anonymous blog every day all hours of the day and post every little thing, hurl an insult, act like a second grader and call someone a childish name etc.  I do not come on here and constantly post about every little thing POTUS does whether I agree or disagree.
 
On my 715 now 716  posts, some of which were in other forums, I have repeatedly said several times I am not a Trump fan. I have also posted in the past McConnell should go and that McConnell should not have stopped the Garland nomination that Obama had the right to appoint and that he should have had a hearing. But why did the hearing never happen. Because of guys like Reid and Biden working for the party and not the people and McConnell getting revenge for the GOP.  I also believe the GOP botched their chance at fixing health care.
 
[b][i]OK, You hate Democrats[/i][/b]
Not true. I do not vote party I vote the person. Actually voted for Obama in 2008. McCain scared me. Way too hawkish. I was glad he lost. Thought Obama would deliver. I was wrong.   Voted for our former democratic mayor. Guy did a great job. We now have a Republican mayor and he is terrible. Have voted democrat for Governor based on the candidate. One period of time Republican governor who I did not vote for was a poor choice. Actually argued w my family as to how bad a character he was. Republican won.  His tenure ended badly w criminal charges. 2016 did not vote for either Trump or HRC. Both were poor candidates and I posted so.
 
And as I have posted I am watching Mayor Petes campaign and supporting him. I do not agree with everything he is for but we need someone like him to fix it. I see him as someone that could build consensus. I hope I am right.  Trump will not get a second term. He is beatable. Biden is a poor choice. Go ahead and think he is better. He is corrupt.  These financial issues are big red flags. He is no better than Trump when it comes to his family deals and how it all benefits him. Dems need to find someone else and not nominate a man that his family has dealings w other nations.

[Unknown Member]

Biden is a decent human being

A lot of republicans and democrats are decent human beings

Trump is not a decent human being

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

Mayor Pete is a better human being than both of them.

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from kpack123

Biden is a decent human being

A lot of republicans and democrats are decent human beings

Trump is not a decent human being

 
LOL, says the deceiver. On what standard does kpack claim anyone is “good”? I wonder.

[katiemckee84_223]

Quote from Ixrayu

And as I have posted I am watching Mayor Petes campaign and supporting him. I do not agree with everything he is for but we need someone like him to fix it. I see him as someone that could build consensus. I hope I am right.  Trump will not get a second term. He is beatable. Biden is a poor choice. Go ahead and think he is better. He is corrupt.  These financial issues are big red flags. He is no better than Trump when it comes to his family deals and how it all benefits him. Dems need to find someone else and not nominate a man that his family has dealings w other nations.

 
I like your posts, but you’re falling for another fraud candidate (like Obama) set up by the party big wigs, the one they think can manipulate you the best. That’s why Butt doesn’t say anything, doesn’t stand on a position at all, as opposed to someone like Yang, who I don’t support either. But at least Andrew actually comes out and says truly what he believes in and is thoughtful on some level, concise.
 
Trump will not be beaten.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from Ixrayu

[b][i]When exactly have you ever taken your own advice & criticized Republicans?[/i][/b]
I do not need to waste hours of my time making thousands of posts to satisfy some obsessive political bias.  

And yet that is exactly what you demanded of me? 
 
Yeah, I was annoyed. That’s the same BS I’ve been reading from Right wing AM posters for years who never quite seem to be able to explain their beliefs much less their support of people like Trump. All this BS about how I never criticize Democrats? It’s an empty argument meant to distract. You’ve been asleep at the wheel. My 1st criticism of Democrats started with the Vietnam War. Is that too early for you?
 
Both parties are not equally bad. If you believe that you aren’t thinking and you are drinking the Kool-aid. You think Buttiegieg is ideal? No one is ideal.

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

Coincidentally – Just saw clip on Biden in Iowa. Biden says China is not competition for us. Romney joining Sanders in attacking him. International Monetary Fund; China is fastest growing economy. GDP is higher than USA. Where is Biden coming from on this? Hmm!

[ruszja]

Quote from Ixrayu

Coincidentally – Just saw clip on Biden in Iowa. Biden says China is not competition for us. Romney joining Sanders in attacking him. International Monetary Fund; China is fastest growing economy. GDP is higher than USA. Where is Biden coming from on this? Hmm!

I am sure that is going to be a hit in WI and MI. Lol. Keep talking Mr Biden, keep talking.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Biden likely will not win the nomination due to all of his flaws. Process is way too early.
 
But it is amusing listening to all the Trumpets complaining about Biden’s flaws. By comparison to their man he’s wearing a frigging halo.
 
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Whatever you people have against Biden, whether real, drug or partisan induced and imagined or exaggerated, Paul Krugman explains some of my misgivings about Biden. And Bernie.
 
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/opinion/sanders-biden-2020.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…anders-biden-2020.html[/link]
 

No, my concerns are about what will happen if either man wins. Are they ready for the political trench warfare that would inevitably follow a Democratic victory?
 
The trouble with both Biden and Sanders is that each, in his own way, seems to believe that he has unique powers of persuasion that will let him defy the harsh reality of todays tribal politics. And this lack of realism could set either of them up for failure.
 
Start with Biden, a convivial guy who has maintained good personal relations with Republicans. All indications are that he believes that these good personal relations will translate into an ability to make bipartisan deals on policy.
 
But weve already seen this movie, and it was a tragedy. Barack Obama took office with a message of unity and bipartisan outreach, and a sincere belief that he could get many Republicans to back his efforts to revive the economy, reform health care, and more. What he faced instead was total scorched-earth opposition.
 
And Obamas belief that he could transcend partisanship nearly sank his presidency. Crucial months were wasted trying to devise health reform legislation that could attract Republican support; Obamas signature achievement happened only because Nancy Pelosis heroic efforts dragged the Affordable Care Act across the finish line.
 
The big concern about a Biden presidency is that he would repeat all of Obamas early mistakes, squandering any momentum from electoral victory in pursuit of a bipartisan dream that should have died long ago.
 
Sanders, by contrast, doesnt do bipartisanship. He doesnt even do unipartisanship, refusing to call himself a Democrat even as he seeks the partys nomination. But what Sanders appears to believe is that he can convince voters not just to support progressive policies, but to support sweeping policy changes that would try to fix things most people dont consider broken.

 
Still early & a lot of things will be shaken out including how Democratic voters feel about each of the candidates and their positions.
 
Still waiting for Buttigieg to break out of being a cypher, a popular cypher. He says a lot of things I like but is he 3 dimentional or will he flame out soon too?
 

[Unknown Member]

Krugman is FOS.  BO never took the office with a message of unity and bipartisan outreach.  Quite the opposite.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from IR_CONSULT

Krugman is FOS.  BO never took the office with a message of unity and bipartisan outreach.  Quite the opposite.

Examples?

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from Ixrayu

Frumi and KPack do you guys suffer from Belpharospasm when you look at the dems? The constant posts and your act like its only the right that does this stuff is ridiculous. Both sides are bad and there are corrupt lying individuals on both sides. The dems have a laundry list of issues that the only reason does not get attention is because of  the mostly leaning left media.

If a GOP family member w high administrative connections did what the Bidens did the media would be screaming special counsel and collusion.
Why dont you post about the behaviors of the left?

You compare jay-walkers to Mafia. You all were apoplectic with Obama but you all are whining about Trump & Republican criticism form us?
 
I’ve already clearly and blatantly stated that Biden is nowhere my 1st choice BUT between him and Trump there is no choice. Biden all the way!. Trump is outright corrupt as well as incompetant not to mention a collaborator with Russians interfering in our elections.
 
But you are all right with Trump, right? & I’m the one with  the problem?
 
What does Trump stand for again? What had Trump accomplished again? He is great because he stands for what and has done what?
 
Put down the Kool-aid & sober up & find a good Republican candidate or good Republican policies & then we can talk. In the meantime, look in the mirror before you throw out empty criticisms & do your mea culpas.
 
Sobriety is a good thing. Try it for a change.