[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

Evangelicals are the worst people on the planet

 
You mentioned that. Like a couple of times in this thread.
 
You should count how many times you have now answered your own posts, there should be a counter. It’s usually Frumi and SNL who do that.
 
I am sorry that the appointment of the new associate justice causes you to lose your mind.
 

[Unknown Member]

Thanks for your concern

[Unknown Member]

And I will answer my own post once again

The guy did lie

A stupid lie but a definite lie under oath

This needs to be pointed out that you and your types think its ok

[ruszja]

Not sure why you are losing it about evangelicals. From all I can find the man is catholic.

[Unknown Member]

well I dont really expect you to understand but I will try again

Evangelicals once again sell their souls to support a lying peice of sheet

I have no clue about the Ford allegations

But Kavanaugh did lie under oath about the Devils Triangle and the boofing, probably about the drinking

So if you are an evangelical and you are for all morality how can you legitimately support a liar line Kavanaugh

Thats the question

Trump is their hero and god yet
Trump lies about stupid sheet, chests on his wife with porn stars, divorced trice married 3 times and kids to multiple women

Are evangelicals really moral?

I dont think so and again they prove me correct by supporting another lying peice of poopey

[ruszja]

You are a democrat. And you care about the truth. Lol.

[Unknown Member]

If thats what you believe…….What makes you different?

[Unknown Member]

And lets make one distinction

A lie in politics happens a lot in all sides

But a lie under oath?????

Even a really dumb little lie

Thats a different ballgame especially by a Supreme Court Justice

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

And lets make one distinction

A lie in politics happens a lot in all sides

But a lie under oath?????

Even a really dumb little lie

Thats a different ballgame especially by a Supreme Court Justice

 
‘I did not have sexual relations with that woman !’.
 
Has already been adjudicated. A lie not related to the performance of ones duties is not grounds for impeachment.
 

[Unknown Member]

I agree

But Bill Clinton was also disbarred wasnt he

I believe he was no longer able to practice law because of his lie under oath

What exactly is your point?

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

I agree

But Bill Clinton was also disbarred wasnt he

I believe he was no longer able to practice law because of his lie under oath

What exactly is your point?

 
The point is that it has already been decided that an inconsequential lie about ones private life is not sufficient to be removed from office.
 
And I don’t even think he lied. It’s pretty easy to spot the intellectual midgets here. Until 9/28/18 1:30 am the wiktionary entry for ‘boof’ referred to whitewater kayaking. By the next morning, the entry had sprouted this laundry list of sexual connotations and anyone with a googelator suddenly ‘remembered’ and is insistent that ‘everyone knows that’.

[Unknown Member]

Nope

Sorry to bust your bubble but these are well no slang terms at least they were when I was a teenager in the early to mid 80s ….. the same era of our new Justice

Lets just face it He lied…… under oath

The Devils Triangle is not a drinking game

Boofing is a sexual term for intercourse front or back

I do agree it was a stupid lie but I wouldnt call a lie under oath inconsequential

Im still not sure thought why the hysterical anger on your side is coming from

Does the truth that he lied hurt so bad even when you got the outcome you wanted so deeply

I just get the outrage and anger on your side

[Unknown Member]

I just dont get the anger and outrage on your side

[Unknown Member]

Again

There is 1982 movie

Last American virgin in which the term boofing is used in regards to sex

[link=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_American_Virgin]https://en.m.wikipedia.or…e_Last_American_Virgin[/link]

I believe you can rent it on amazon for 4.99

[kayla.meyer_144]

Kavanaugh is Judge & that should never have been a surprise to anyone regardless of his entitlement or history. He is there because of his political views and belief in a unitary executive and contrary to his arguments regarding a certain Democratic president, Kavanaugh’s opinion now is that a president cannot be indicted, protecting Trump from any findings. A big relief for Republicans as well as Trump.
 
The only way to address the problem is to vote. 
 
Get out and vote. Make voting universal and easy and convenient. Everywhere.

[Unknown Member]

Basically

The guy lied and everyone knows that

But the trumpers are just angry as hello because they know that everyone knows he lied and is FOS

Thats the bottom line

They do not care if he lied because they got what they want but they are outraged because we know he lied

Weird group of people

[kayla.meyer_144]

All true. But morality and ethics have nothing to do with this vote. Nothing mattered to them except his political opinions regardless of anything else. Had he been exposed as another Roy Moore, it would have changed nothing, Evangelicals & the other Trumpers would just have tightened the circle of wagons.

[Unknown Member]

What is weird is that you keep posting the same thought over and over. Can you prove that he lied?  No one is outraged except you.  The only anger and outrage is from the you and the lefties. I could give you a list of examples but there is no point. You are right no one cares.  Too busy working, hiring and enjoying our great economy. Kavanaugh has been confirmed, Trump is POTUS, get over it.  Sorry life is not good for you now.  Its sad that you and Frumi are so miserable and angry. You guys should take a break from AM and try to enjoy the greatest country in the world.  Lets not forget what your messiah said:
“elections have consequences” and I won”, BO
 
 
 

[Unknown Member]

Now that is an angry rant

Obviously a nerve was touched that provoked such outrage

Take a few deep breaths there mr cardiac Event

[Unknown Member]

Im sorry your guy lied

But a lie is lie

[Unknown Member]

I actually feel bad for you.  Do you have any hobbies other than
posting your anger and outrage on AM?  Take a break.  Go outside for
a little fresh air.  Again no one is angry or outraged except you. I’m off for a round of golf.  Life is good.  I hope you have a blessed afternoon….

[Unknown Member]

Cmon man

First you claim to be a cardiologist who just hangs out on a Radiology message board for the heck of it

Then you claim to be an independently wealthy Ex IR Doctor who is here for sheets and giggles

……. and you are calling someone else angry

Hahahaha Ok buttercup

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from IR_CONSULT

 Its sad that you and Frumi are so miserable and angry. You guys should take a break from AM and try to enjoy the greatest country in the world.  

If you object to anger you need your own mirror as you have posted angry irrational rants on more than a single occasion yourself.
 
Be that as it may, if you want to meet angry people, maybe you should speak to some women, not so much that Kavanaugh was confirmed but all about how he was confirmed and about how Ford’s story was summarily dismissed as a lie. You have a wife and daughter? Female friends? Speak to them about sexual harassment and assault if you want to experience anger. My wife has been beside herself as she watched men dismiss Ford and women in general about their assaults. Speak to my daughter who was assaulted and raped. My mother would have had a thing or 2 to say as she was raped and assaulted on separate occasions. My wife just told me some of the women she works with spoke among themselves about being raped and assaulted. There is one single thing about all of these people’s emotions and it’s less anger as it is about the futility of telling anyone about the attacks because the victims expected noththing to be done about it as the usual reaction observed is that the victims somehow brought the attacks upon themselves. Or they were simply lying or exaggerating.
 
All of this blame belonging to the women is reflected by Conway’s remark about her claimed attack and,You have to be responsible for your own conduct. Was she claiming the attack was her own fault? I doubt that but it does convey that message.
 
I listened to a podcast interviewing some conservative working-women in the midwest being interviewed about Kavanaugh & Ford. It left me confused as they claimed both that Ford was believable & yet dismissed her story in the very next sentence. Then mixed that in with “boys will be boys” type of rationalizations. I hope they aren’t teaching or accepting their boys that assault or rape is just normal young-men’s behavior. Then most surprising, one woman stated her daughter was kidnapped, beaten & raped but went to therapy a couple of times and now she’s better than ever. So therefore Ford had nothing to cry about. WHAT? I’m not sure what surprised me more, the casual dismissal of Ford’s story or the casual ease with which she described her daughter’s assault and rape and then used it to dismiss Ford.
 
I think you will find that there are a lot of women out there who have stories to tell that they have not told anyone at the time and for the same reasons, they both expect nothing to be done about it and they expect to be blamed. Chris Wallace was surprised when his daughters told him their own personal stories. Women who have been attacked don’t seem to be in a very tiny minority. And that should make all of us angry that they are dismissed and blamed.  We should all be angry that people think this behavior is normal for men and accepted. We create more victims with this acceptance.
 
 

[Unknown Member]

he is a troll

Anyone who makes up multiple aliases for a Radiology message board is a pretty desperate individual

And an angry little bugger at that

[Unknown Member]

Dude, I understand that sadly this forum is a significant part of your life. I’ve never claimed to be or pretended to be a cardiologist. I guess you have searched years of AM posts and think you have tracked me to some cardiologist. More than weird and false I find you incredibly sad and pathetic. I understand that your simplistic mind views everyone who disagrees with you as angry. I challenge you to Google the definition of projection and you will learn alot about your personality disorder. Find a hobby. Peace out…

[ruszja]

Quote from kpack123

Im still not sure thought why the hysterical anger on your side is coming from

I am happy and content with the fact that he got seated on the court.

You are the one ranting and replying to your own angry posts. Maybe you need to get boofed more ?

[kayla.meyer_144]

Ah, so Kavanaugh was referring to whitewater kayaking when he asked, “Have you boofed yet?”. I had not realized Kavanaugh was a whitewater kayaker.

[Unknown Member]

….. so again the trumpers and evangelicals offer the pewee Herman defense

I know you are but what am I

So much for party of morals and family values

[kayla.meyer_144]

Too many Evangelicals are the American Taliban with their fundamental religious beliefs. Christian Wahhabis. I heard some Evangelicals talking on the radio recently about being in the “Holy Land” and supporting Israel and very down on the Palestinians as Palestinians are somehow the antithesis of the Evangelicals’ religious beliefs. They stated that supporting Israel is God’s will – it says so in the Bible, that supporters of Israel will be rewarded by God. Their proof of the truth of that belief was their stated belief that since Israel’s capital was recognized by Trump as being in Jerusalem, the American economy grew. Another flavor of the Prosperity Gospel, just what Jesus preached.
 
I guess they missed the Book of Job’s lessons. And the Holocaust.
 
Ignorance is bliss. Especially when ignorance is blessed by their god.
 
How does one support such dangerous beliefs.

[Unknown Member]

Thats why they are always so angry

They know the are hypocrites and take it out by being negative condescending and petty all the time

Must suck to be them

[kayla.meyer_144]

An answer about what a scary time it is for boys and men.
 
[link]https://youtu.be/N34hehRgw9g[/link]
 
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

I don’t get the support so many white women have for Trump. It’s like supporting your abuser. 
  
Stockholm Syndrome on steroids? 
  
Sanity kicking the door down on some Evangelicals? “Thank God!” There is hope for them, maybe. 
  
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/us/politics/texas-beto-orourke-evangelicals-women.html]https://www.nytimes.com/2…vangelicals-women.html[/link] 
  

 
Listening to Ms. Mooneys story, the four other evangelical moms standing around a kitchen island began to buzz with excitement. All of them go to similarly conservative churches in Dallas. All are longtime Republican voters, solely because they oppose abortion rights. Only one broke ranks to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. But this November, they have all decided to vote for Mr. ORourke, the Democratic upstart who is on the front line of trying to upend politics in deep-red Texas. 
  
The women, who are all in their 30s, described Mr. ORourke as providing a stark moral contrast to Mr. Trump, whose policies and behavior they see as fundamentally anti-Christian, especially separating immigrant children from their parents at the border, banning many Muslim refugees and disrespecting women. 
I care as much about babies at the border as I do about babies in the womb, said Tess Clarke, one of Ms. Mooneys friends, confessing that she was mortified at how she used to vote, because she had only considered abortion policy. Weve been asleep. Now, weve woke up. 
  
Ms. Clarke, who sells candles poured by refugee women in Dallas, began to weep as she recalled visiting a migrant woman detained and separated from her daughter at the border. When an older white evangelical man recently told her that she couldnt be a Christian and vote for Mr. ORourke, Ms. Clarke was outraged. 
  
I keep going back to who Jesus was when he walked on earth, she said. This is about proximity to people in pain. 
  
Kelsey Hency, who graduated from the conservative Dallas Theological Seminary, talked about how she had adopted a black infant as Mr. Trump swept the Republican primaries and had realized how much she needed to learn about race. It brought the torrent of everything else, she said. When I look at Cruz, I think he sees Republican politics. When I look at Beto, I think he sees vulnerable people who need to be supported. 

 
  
  
 
 

[Unknown Member]

What I dont understand is

How can a man or woman with daughters support this orange preek?

[henriqueabreu]

I don’t have any daughters and I can’t stomach this creep.  I do have a sister though.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from kpack123

What I dont understand is

How can a man or woman with daughters support this orange preek?

His act is to make fun of Democrats, liberals and women, a trifecta for his supporters. He also like to make fun of people with physical disabilities, a freebie.

[Unknown Member]

Hillary was not a great candidate but she was right when she called his cult of followers deplorables

[19462008]

Yep… it’s evident. As so many have said on the right before me, This blog is a “trophy for everyone”, Massaganistic forum for the left. Haters stop Hate’n I believe Kpack said at one time. Eat your own words. Maybe you guys should look in the mirror. There’s no common ground for debate with you all. Just cut, discriminate, fabricate and whine. You all read like the desperate housewives of Aunt Minnie. You need Jesus and quick.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from CudaRad

Yep… it’s evident. As so many have said on the right before me, This blog is a “trophy for everyone”, Massaganistic forum for the left. Haters stop Hate’n I believe Kpack said at one time. Eat your own words. Maybe you guys should look in the mirror. There’s no common ground for debate with you all. Just cut, discriminate, fabricate and whine. You all read like the desperate housewives of Aunt Minnie. You need Jesus and quick.

Why? Jesus and the Gospel hasn’t seemed to do much in the way of empathy and community for you and for too many other Christians. The Bible didn’t define Jesus by who he hated.
 
I am very familiar with the New Testament and I read nothing there that would make me thing Jesus would be an angry Trumper. We apparently read different versions of the Bible & I don;’t know where your version comes from frankly.

[19462008]

Quote from Frumious

Quote from CudaRad

Yep… it’s evident. As so many have said on the right before me, This blog is a “trophy for everyone”, Massaganistic forum for the left. Haters stop Hate’n I believe Kpack said at one time. Eat your own words. Maybe you guys should look in the mirror. There’s no common ground for debate with you all. Just cut, discriminate, fabricate and whine. You all read like the desperate housewives of Aunt Minnie. You need Jesus and quick.

Why? Jesus and the Gospel hasn’t seemed to do much in the way of empathy and community for you and for too many other Christians. The Bible didn’t define Jesus by who he hated.

I am very familiar with the New Testament and I read nothing there that would make me thing Jesus would be an angry Trumper. We apparently read different versions of the Bible & I don;’t know where your version comes from frankly.

Frumi, I wonder what version you read or who has misled you. if you’re so familiar… Can I ask you one thing?  Have you asked Christ in your life and are you saved? Christ and my belief give me all that I need to handle all aspects of life. Even for those that think I hate them. I hate no one. I tell them the truth then I pray for them. Though my family never agree on all the policies of Clinton, Obama and Bush.. we pray for our leaders, all of them and now… even Trump. Why? because they are sinners just like you and I and are not perfect. No one is without Sin. If that is something you can’t comprehend, then again I have to ask… Have you asked Christ in your life and are you saved? It’s actually one of Christ’s commandments ([b]John 3:5-7[/b]). If you haven’t, then you would not understand. You stated” “The Bible didn’t define Jesus by who he hated” To be clear… Christ never hated anyone but actually instructed us to love our enemies: [b]Luke 6:27 – 36[/b]. 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from CudaRad

Frumi, I wonder what version you read or who has misled you. if you’re so familiar… Can I ask you one thing?  Have you asked Christ in your life and are you saved? Christ and my belief give me all that I need to handle all aspects of life. Even for those that think I hate them. I hate no one. I tell them the truth then I pray for them. Though my family never agree on all the policies of Clinton, Obama and Bush.. we pray for our leaders, all of them and now… even Trump. Why? because they are sinners just like you and I and are not perfect. No one is without Sin. If that is something you can’t comprehend, then again I have to ask… Have you asked Christ in your life and are you saved? It’s actually one of Christ’s commandments ([b]John 3:5-7[/b]). If you haven’t, then you would not understand. You stated” “The Bible didn’t define Jesus by who he hated” To be clear… Christ never hated anyone but actually instructed us to love our enemies: [b]Luke 6:27 – 36[/b]. 

An honest question?
 
I was raised a Protestant, several denominations, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Dutch Reformed, etc. and even briefly – very – taught Bible Studies classes in a Roman Catholic Church as I had long religious discussions with many of the priests at the time. They saw that I was knowledgable about the Bible but had become skeptical and thought teaching would reinforce my former faith. It did not. They started from a place of misunderstanding by thinking a person could not act well because a person would not try to act well without a fear of God and Hell.
 
I started as a believer but became agnostic and then an atheist as I explored the Bible and its history and religious history in general. I am today an atheist and can think of nothing that will ever change that.
 
Christianity is a strong part of my past and tradition. We set up a Yule tree each year for instance (no manger) but then the Yule tree came from pagan traditions. I knew things long before Dan Brown’s “DaVinci Code” as religious studies remain a very strong interest of mine. I also enjoy the writings of Joseph Campbell & his observations of comparative beliefs and their similarities.  I have a very strong respect for the teachings, of empathy, of helping the less fortunate, the ‘value’ of wealth vs how you try to live your life, etc, a belief that is not limited to Christianity but the teachings are all very similar. 
 
My first Bible came from the Dutch Reformed church but I have King James and a few other interpretations including a Jehovah Witness version of the New Testament giving the English translation and original Greek given to me by a friend who was a Jehovah Witness.
 
I don’t expect you to understand how this fits as I believe the question the priests had for me is one of your first question, why believe in morality as an atheist? Well, I do try and have tried to teach that to my children.
 
Apologies for boring those who are bored by my answer.
 
 

[19462008]

Then you understand and maybe Kpack does not, that the relationship is between you and God. Not a congregation and God. It’s unfortunate that denominations teach Fire and Brimstone every time we go to Church. I was raised in a Baptist and Pentecostal (liberal type) (No snake dancing!). Just honesty to others and passion. At times, Church becomes a Meat festival for new attendee’s or visitors. That’s unfortunate and uncomfortable. How is that Welcoming is a mystery to me.  However, I respect your view and too believe the words from Greek is more important. A Greek Orthodox friend of mine told the Bible in his language is like Color TV, in English… it’s Black and White. 
 
You seem to have chosen you path of belief and defend it. I respect that. I have as well and will do the following. Though regarding JV’s, when they hit my door, I tell them I’ve been raised by Baptist and Pentecostals once said, they say thank you and go on. I must not be easy pickins for them.
 
Thanks for reply and I do respect your view. Kpack?….. ehhhh. Just kidding! 
 
 

[heenadevk1119_462]

Let’s be real, they have no faith so politics is the religion.
 
Yes, only statements like this can shock them into reality, but that’s what you get with humans who think other men are gonna “build a kingdom” for them here.
 
If you doubt that, just read off topic for 10 minutes.

[kaldridgewv2211]

Quote from CudaRad

that the relationship is between you and God. Not a congregation and God. 

Ah ha theology.  During Cathechism a person joins the church, right?  The church itself being the body Christ.  It’s not one person but a community.  Here’s a whole bunch of Chatecism if you need it.
 
[link=http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p2.htm]http://www.vatican.va/arc…catechism/p123a9p2.htm[/link]

[19462008]

Quote from DICOM_Dan

Quote from CudaRad

that the relationship is between you and God. Not a congregation and God. 

Ah ha theology.  During Cathechism a person joins the church, right?  The church itself being the body Christ.  It’s not one person but a community.  Here’s a whole bunch of Chatecism if you need it.

[link=http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p2.htm]http://www.vatican.va/arc…catechism/p123a9p2.htm[/link]

I attempted to read as much as possible. I think your understanding may be skewed. The Church claiming to be in the body of Christ is not instant salvation for anyone in it. It’s no difference with Protestants. We claim that all people that come to worship in unison is in the body of Christ. We have strengths that help our congregation (and those people) in it to follow Christ’s teaching.  Your Church can’t provide salvation but only lead you or assist you. Again, it’s down to the individual to make the decision to follow or not. My view is this: When you are taking your last breath… it’s between you and God.. Not You, the Pastor/Priest; your congregation or Church AND God. People leave Churches and Temples all the time, but many still stay with God. 
 
Anyways, no need to go on. Good question or statement. 
 
 

[kaldridgewv2211]

Au contraire.  Christ died for our sins.  If you believe and are repentant then your sins are forgiven.  But I digress.

[19462008]

Quote from DICOM_Dan

Au contraire.  Christ died for our sins.  If you believe and are repentant then your sins are forgiven.  But I digress.

Then you think of God as to small. He’s bigger than that. Man has trouble believing that any Sin can be forgiven. Christ does not. Again, it’s between the person and God. If they are truly repentant and truly mean it with conviction and remorse, God knows. If just by saying the words with no Conviction, it ain’t gonna a happen. That is why God is much greater than us. 

[kayla.meyer_144]

I was surprised by the question by you and have to say I was happy to see it and answer it. I believe it is the 1st exchange between us that was a discussion rather than an exchange of unpleasantries. It was not Lib vs Con.
 
I know I have strong opinions but I also welcome others’ strong opinions & welcome exchanges without hyperbole and hostility. I don’t expect Kumbaya, I do expect an exchange of opinions no matter how strong but backed up with why, hopefully conspiracies absent. The best examples in the past I have is with Alda & Mistrad exposed me to some conservative writings although we almost never agreed and our last exchanges were not friendly exchanges. They dropped off at Trump’s nomination & election but I still wonder what makes people tick, especially those with whom I disagree so that is why I have continued posting.
 
Here’s to hoping this starts a trend among some posters. I will try.

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

[b][i]I also welcome others’ strong opinions & welcome exchanges without hyperbole and hostility.[/i][/b]
[b][i]
[/i][/b]
What a crock of BS. Just look at the Climate Denial post when all I did was correct a fact and you went into rage mode demanding facts etc. and twisted it around demanding an opinion on climate change when not once did I ever dispute climate change was occurring. In fact I simply did what you frequently do when someone posts an incorrect fact. Give accurate info which you did not like. But apparently you are the self proclaimed moderator of the Politics forum and if  one disagrees, gives correct facts that you don’t like, or offers another opinion you start on them or try to bait posters into an argument.  When that is not working you are joined by your circle jerk insulting name calling friend Kpack (when he has nothing else to offer) as he tries to tag team w you. This is why members have left & the only frequent posters are you and 4-5  members. Your 14,676 posts are evident of your obsession over your liberalism religion.  Now you have had an epiphany & claim you will change. Sorry the leopard doesn’t’ change their spots. You wrote  [b][i]What makes people tick[/i]?[/b] Your anger is way to evident to claim curiosity. Again I call BS. 

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

[b][i]I also welcome others’ strong opinions & welcome exchanges without hyperbole and hostility.[/i][/b]
[b][i]
[/i][/b]
What a crock of BS. Just look at the Climate Denial post when all I did was correct a fact and you went into rage mode demanding facts etc. and twisted it around demanding an opinion on climate change when not once did I ever dispute climate change was occurring. In fact I simply did what you frequently do when someone posts an incorrect fact. Give accurate info which you did not like. But apparently you are the self proclaimed moderator of the Politics forum and if  one disagrees, gives correct facts that you don’t like, or offers another opinion you start on them or try to bait posters into an argument.  When that is not working you are joined by your circle jerk insulting name calling friend Kpack (when he has nothing else to offer) as he tries to tag team w you. This is why members have left & the only frequent posters are you and 4-5  members. Your 14,676 posts are evident of your obsession over your liberalism religion.  Now you have had an epiphany & claim you will change. Sorry the leopard doesn’t’ change their spots. You wrote  [b][i]What makes people tick[/i]?[/b] Your anger is way to evident to claim curiosity. Again I call BS. 

[Unknown Member]

So members have left this site because people have been mean to them?????

Interesting how playing the victim card competes for losing arguments based upon non facts

Everyone is just do mean to you arent they

[Unknown Member]

Why so angry?

You won and got what you want

Why so angry?

[Unknown Member]

True

Funny the same people on here who supported Roy Moore are wide eyed raving apologist for Kavanaugh

[Unknown Member]

Again

The guy who makes up multiple aliases on a Radiology message board claiming to be someone who no longer has to work because he is independently wealthy………….should probably not be giving anyone else psychological advice about projection or even more so personality disorders

Just sayin
 
 
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[ruszja]

If you keep repeating it, eventually it’ll be true. That’s how it works, right ?

[Unknown Member]

The truth is truth

[Unknown Member]

Hey, KPack…long time no see. Paranoid much? 
Guess what? I’m NOT IR_CONSULT or anyone else. Just Little Old Cardiac Event. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
I knew I should stay away from you radiologists. You are nothing but trouble. I’m really, really really sad to see what this “politics” forum has become. It ain’t nothing but a circle j3rk, an echo chamber for the five or so of you who do nothing but sit around and post all day to each other. You reinforce your own way Left craziness and bulldoze anybody who has a different opinion. Sad. Really really really sad.
 
Does anyone from Aunt Minie even administrate this place? You should thank them daily for giving you guys your very own playground. Do the sponsors know what’s going on here? That you boys are cranking out Commie propaganda on a Medical website? Do they really want to be spending advrtising money on that? I’ll bet they don’t. 
 
Time for Auntie to spank you bad children and shut down this little sandbox of yours. 

[Unknown Member]

Wow

At what length will you stoop too

Hahahaha

fw

I accept your apology in advance

[Unknown Member]

This may be the greatest callout of a troll in the history of aunt Minnie

[Unknown Member]

Sure, I’ll apologise…I’m very very sorry that you are so paranoid, Kpick. Really sorry. What a sad bunch you are. For the last time, I’m not IR_CONSORT or whoever you seem tho think I am. I’m just me. OK, you caught me…I’m ERADICATOR!!!! Oh sorry, that was you wasn’t it? Anyway…
 
This is a really good example of how Commies think. Kpick has decided I’m IR-CONSTANT, so nothing I say will convince him/her otherwise. Nothing at all. Even though I’m not, IR_COMSAT knows I’m not, and for the record, I never felt up IR-COMSTAT or Kpick for that matter. But Kpick knows in his dark lil heart that I’m lying, and so thats were the conversation ends. Just like with the Judge, or should I say JUSTICE. Kpick knows he is lying too, and nothing anyone says ever will change his mind.
 
I think ol’ Ronnie Reagen said it best…Liberals know so much that isn’t true. Really good example here with kPick. 

[Unknown Member]

Don’t waste your time with pathetic radical leftists. You’re dealing with a very sad, lonely man who responds to his own posts. Maybe it’s time to let kpuck and Frumi have this site to themselves to spout their angry socialist ideology. I get the feeling that they are both old and angry who sadly live very pathetic lives which revolves around AM.

[heenadevk1119_462]

They accuse every third non-communist poster of having several handles! If anything beside their delusional posts showed the delusion more clearly, it’s this. Aunt Minnie is a case study of just how stupid and delusional leftists are. 
 
But hey, the Blue Wave is coming, right? Time to be wrong for the 67th time in a row, and for the 50th post or thread made. You couldn’t write a book more convincing than the last 3 years of AM political posts by these clowns. I’m just glad they make their own hell. I tried to help them. No more.

[kaldridgewv2211]

Must be a full moon. The AM goofiness is out in full force tonight.

[Unknown Member]

Pathetic creatures

Cardiac Event doesnt post in 7 years

Then comes out today

Jeezus. Not everyone is so dumb that they cannot figure you out

[kayla.meyer_144]

Quote from kpack123

Pathetic creatures

Cardiac Event doesnt post in 7 years

Then comes out today

Jeezus. Not everyone is so dumb that they cannot figure you out

Speaking of Jeezus:
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Well then I apologize, Ixrayu for hurting your feelings.
 
 

[btomba_77]

New allegation of sexual misconduct by Brett  Kavanaugh
 
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage[/link]
 
[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461441-castro-calls-for-latest-claim-against-kavanaugh-to-be-investigated]https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/461441-castro-calls-for-latest-claim-against-kavanaugh-to-be-investigated[/link]
 
Stier’s allegation, which was reportedly supplied to the FBI in 2018 during Kavanaugh’s confirmation process but was never investigated, first appeared publicly in [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html]the New York Times[/link] on Saturday.
 
Stier has never spoken publicly about his accusation, which was corroborated to the Times by U.S. officials familiar with the report.
 
_________
 
 
 
Deborah Ramirezs legal team gave the F.B.I. a list of at least 25 individuals who may have had corroborating evidence. But the bureau in its supplemental background investigation interviewed none of them, though we learned many of these potential witnesses tried in vain to reach the F.B.I. on their own, The Times reported.
 
Two F.B.I. agents interviewed Ms. Ramirez, telling her that they found her credible. But the Republican-controlled Senate had imposed strict limits on the investigation, the newspaper added.
 

[btomba_77]

Welll… that’s a b[b]big[/b] mistake…..
 
NYT has to issue a correction after leaving out a [i]major detail[/i]…. that the woman in question didn’t go on record and her friends say she has no recollection of any event.
 
C’mon NYT!

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

[i][b]C’mon NYT![/b][/i] I agree. They are turning into a hack media outlet.
 
How about C’mon dergon!
We can read and don’t need the constant copy paste. Also perhaps you should self restrict copy paste stories immediately after they break. This is not the first time you posted a story shorty after it broke only to have  that story pulled back ie the recent post on Lawrence O’Donnell claim on who co-signed Trump’s loans.

[kayla.meyer_144]

Uh, its not as if it is a black & white, it never happened thing. The article & book referred to a 3rd person, a man who claimed to have witnessed Kavanaugh acting inappropriately with similar behavior at a different party than Ramirezs & with a different woman than Ramirez. The article merely states this 2nd woman declined to be interviewed because she did not recall what the witness, Max Stier says he witnessed. 
 
Hardly proof of a fictional account. 
 
Specifically the retraction was:
 
 

The Times was roundly criticized for a tweet which was later deleted made on its Opinion account on Saturday about the essay that read: Having a penis thrust in your face at a drunken dorm party may seem like harmless fun. But when Brett Kavanaugh did it to her, Deborah Ramirez says, it confirmed that she didnt belong at Yale in the first place.
 
Mr. Dao said the tweet was clearly offensive and never should have gone out and we sincerely apologize.

 
 

 

[alyaa.rifaie_129]

It was omission by choice and journalistic malpractice. The info was in the book that the woman could not remember and times left it out. It was an attempted smear job and many 2020 dem candidates jumped on the smear campaign.
 
Yes the NYT – All the paper fit for the bottom of the canary cage.
 
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

As if Breitbart & Fox, et al ever print retractions to correct mistakes. A correction for these media is an oxymoron!
 
<raspberries>

[Unknown Member]

The problem with the media is too many people pay attention to every little thing they report

When big things happen….. thats important

But most of the sheet on MSNBC and FOX is baiting for an agenda

CNN not much better but at least they have a little shame

FOX and most of MSNBC aside from Chris Wallace and Chris Matthews maybe a few others are just flame throwing propagandists

[phocate]

Your facts are wrong about the retraction. The retraction you posted refers to an offensive tweet that was posted by NYT and then taken down because it was offensive. The retraction to the NYT opinion piece was about the small detail that the woman involved at the party has no memory of any such event involving anyone including Kavanaugh. She also refused to become involved in any way. The attorney who made the accusation was a student at the time at Yale and claims he witnessed the event. But as of now there is no corroboration of his accusation.

[phocate]

Sorry that reply was to Frumious

[kaldridgewv2211]

In all the sex stuff I think what gets lost is that someone paid off $200k+ of his credit card debt around the time he was being confirmed.  Really like to know who that was and what the motive was.  Not to mention this was supposedly debt for baseball tickets.  If you want to understand bad judgement, look not farther than someone who is 1) $200k in debt on a credit card 2) that debt is for baseball tickets.

[kayla.meyer_144]

He likes beer AND baseball!

[kayla.meyer_144]

@ethicalRad,
Thanks for the correction but IMHO, it does not substantially change anything. It could be very true she does not remember or that she does not want to be involved considering the hostile reactions received by Ford. But curious she did not deny it ever happened, only that she does not remember.
 
[link=https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html?searchResultPosition=1]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/14/sunday-review/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-yale.html[/link]

We also uncovered a previously unreported story about Mr. Kavanaugh in his freshman year that echoes Ms. Ramirezs allegation. A classmate, Max Stier, saw Mr. Kavanaugh with his pants down at a different drunken dorm party, where friends pushed his penis into the hand of a female student. Mr. Stier, who runs a nonprofit organization in Washington, notified senators and the F.B.I. about this account, but the F.B.I. did not investigate and Mr. Stier has declined to discuss it publicly. We corroborated the story with two officials who have communicated with Mr. Stier; [b]the female student declined to be interviewed and friends say she does not recall the episode.[/b]
 
This essay is adapted from the forthcoming book The Education of Brett Kavanaugh: An Investigation.

[i]Editors Note: Sept. 15, 2019 An earlier version of this article, which was adapted from a forthcoming book, did not include one element of the book’s account regarding an assertion by a Yale classmate that friends of Brett Kavanaugh pushed his penis into the hand of a female student at a drunken dorm party. The book reports that the female student declined to be interviewed and friends say that she does not recall the incident. That information has been added to the article.[/i]  

 

[savpruitt_28]

“But curious she did not deny it ever happened, only that she does not remember.”
 
Not curious at all. “I don’t remember” is actually the best answer for an event you don’t accurately recall. To say it did or did not happen implies you have a good recollection of exactly what happened…. At a drunk frat party?
 
Most events of my college years I have very little recollection of, all sober. Now my father, on the other hand, has an extraordinary memory for recalling people and events 30+ years ago.
 
I pity kids today, they will not be able to do anything stupid in their lives without someone recording it on a cell phone.
 

[kayla.meyer_144]

Not disagreeing with you but I dont remember also implies a validity of the story.

[savpruitt_28]

“Not disagreeing with you but I dont remember also implies a validity of the story.”
 
Why?

[kayla.meyer_144]

Because, if I say “I don’t remember” I am saying, there was the event,  I was there and there was a possibility that the story is true. I’m just saying I don’t remember but giving credence that someone else remembers better than I.
 
Plausible deniability?
 
Whereas I could say that did not happen.
 
She did not say that did not happen only that she did not remember it the way Stier says it happened, even though she is the other center of things.
 
Your patient says she doesn’t remember if she took that medication even though a friend says she did. She does not say she was never prescribed any medication, only that she does not remember taking it.
 
Capisce?

[savpruitt_28]

“Because, if I say “I don’t remember” I am saying,[strike] there was the event,[/strike]  I was there and there was a possibility that the story is true.”
 
I would accept that version.

[btomba_77]

[link=https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/543389-dem-senator-suggests-fbi-background-investigation-of-brett-kavanaugh-fake]Sheldon Whitehouse alleges that FBI background investigation on Brett Kavanaugh was fake[/link]

Whitehouse, who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee, [link=https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ltr%20to%20AG%20Garland.pdf]sent a letter[/link] to Attorney General [link=https://thehill.com/people/merrick-garland]Merrick Garland[/link] last Thursday asking him to conduct proper oversight into the bureaus 2018 probe into sexual assault allegations against Kavanaugh.
Whitehouse said the investigation [b]appears to have been a politically-constrained [one] and perhaps fake.[/b]
[b]
[/b]
In his letter, Whitehouse said in this matter the shutters were closed, the bridge drawn up, and there was no point of entry by which members of the public or Congress could provide information to the FBI.
 
He alleged that the agency refused to hear testimony from witnesses and ignored members who inquired on behalf of witnesses, and he criticized the agencys use of a tip line that was meant to accept allegations and evidence.
 
This tip line appears to have operated more like a garbage chute, with everything that came down the chute consigned without review to the figurative dumpster, Whitehouse wrote.

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[kaldridgewv2211]

the boozing and banging HS girls is not as important as who paid off his massive debt.  That to me is the million dollar question and you would think it would take about 2 minutes for the FBI to find out.

[btomba_77]

Sheldon was right …
 
 
[b]FBI Forwarded Kavanaugh Leads to Trumps Legal Team[/b][/h1]  
Nearly three years after Justice Brett Kavanaughs tumultuous confirmation to the Supreme Court, the FBI has disclosed more details about its efforts to review the justices background, leading a group of Senate Democrats to question the thoroughness of the vetting and conclude that it was shaped largely by the Trump White House, the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/22/us/politics/kavanaugh-fbi-investigation.html]New York Times[/link] reports.
 
FBI assistant director Jill Tyson said that the most relevant of the 4,500 tips the agency received during an investigation into Mr. Kavanaughs past were referred to White House lawyers in the Trump administration, whose handling of them remains unclear.
 
The letter left uncertain whether the FBI itself followed up on the most compelling leads.

 

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/22/fbis-investigation-kavanaugh-is-laughable/?utm_campaign=wp_opinions&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0tKDdYEA_vqGIYA1zIWGBNwvTk4wBITTJWq3rMMdSc_QN_3WuX0hntrZ8]https://www.washingtonpos…3rMMdSc_QN_3WuX0hntrZ8[/link]
[b]Ruth Marcus: The FBIs investigation of Kavanaugh was laughable[/b][/h1]

The letter, which became [link=https://twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/1418241012741332996]public[/link] Thursday, offers a perfect illustration of the Trump administrations disdain for congressional oversight, and the way in which the supposedly professional FBI allowed itself to be cowed and ultimately tarnished by subservience to the Trump White House.

…

What did then-White House Counsel Donald McGahn do with the relevant tips? That, we do know: not a damn thing. McGahn had no interest in discovering what his handpicked nominee had done, or not done. He had every interest in ensuring that Kavanaugh be confirmed, facts be damned. If there was any follow-up within the FBI itself, theres no indication of that.

And that is the outrage here. The[b] [/b]FBIs investigation into sexual assault allegations against Kavanaugh wasnt designed to uncover the truth. It was a shoddy enterprise whose mission was to satisfy enough disquieted senators Republicans Jeff Flake of Arizona, Susan Collins of Maine to get Kavanaugh across the finish line.

The vaunted tip line was, in fact, a funnel to nowhere. It didnt get information to investigators eager to follow up on it; instead, it was a distraction device, to shunt aside those eager, even desperate, to get what they thought was relevant information to an investigative agency disinclined to do anything with it.

…

In the frenzied final days of the Kavanaugh confirmation, McGahn kept insisting to Coons that the FBI investigation was being conducted by the book. If that is so, this book needs rewriting.

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[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/release/after-new-details-on-kavanaugh-investigation-surface-senators-call-on-fbi-for-answers-on-handling-of-tip-line]https://www.whitehouse.se…n-handling-of-tip-line[/link]

Senator Whitehouse unsatisfied with the FBI response –

There remain questions unanswered from our August 2019 letter, and your June 2021 response raises significant additional questions:
1. Your letter notes that the FBI follows the standard process established pursuant to a March 10 memorandum of understanding (MOU) between the Department of Justice and the White House. Please provide a copy of that MOU.
2. Your letter notes that Justice Kavanaughs nomination was the first time that the FBIs set-up a tip line for a nominee undergoing Senate Confirmation, and states that it was established at the direction of the FBIs Security Division. However, your letter does not identify or describe the policies or procedures that applied to the tip line. Therefore, please identify: (a) when the decision was made to use a tip line for Judge Kavanaughs investigation; (b) who the senior-most official authorizing the tip line was; (c) whether the tip line was set up through an already existing standard FBI open line or established as a dedicated independent tip line; (d) how the tip line was staffed (how many individuals and what level of training and experience was required); (e) how the over 4,500 tips, including phone calls and electronic submissions were recorded or preserved; (f) what policies or procedures governed or applied to the creation, operation, and documentation of the tip line; and (g) whether the White House Counsels instruction for any additional limited inquiry required or requested the use of a tip line.
3. Your letter notes that [t]he FBI received over 4,500 tips, including phone calls and electronic submissions[,] and that the FBI provided all relevant tips to the Office of White House Counsel, [3] but fails to explain how any individual tip was evaluated or categorized as relevant and how those tips were delivered to the White House. Therefore, please explain: (a) what criteria or standard applied to tips to determine relevancy; (b) how many tips the FBI deemed relevant, and how many tips the FBI provided . . . to the Office of White House Counsel; (c) whether FBI Security Division personnel or any other FBI personnel sorted, vetted, verified, or investigated the tips to determine whether they were relevant; (d) what policies or procedures governed the FBI process of investigating or vetting the tips; (e) the nature and extent of review or investigation per tip before they were made available to the White House Counsel; (f) how tips were formatted and delivered to the White House Counsel; and (g) whether the FBI maintained a copy or record of each tip after provision to the Office of White House Counsel.
4. Your letter indicated that the FBI interviewed ten individuals as part of several limited inquiries, but failed to explain whether these ten interviews were conducted as a result of tips received on the tip line. Therefore, please explain: (a) whether any potential witnesses were identified as having relevant information on the basis of tips received but not interviewed by the FBI; (b) if relevant witnesses were identified by the FBI through the tip line but not interviewed, explain the policy, procedure, or instruction, from the FBI, White House Counsel, or otherwise, that directed that witnesses with relevant information not be interviewed; (c) if the failure to interview was a matter of discretion, identify the individual responsible for making that determination.
5. Was the FBI directed by the White House not to interview either Dr. Blasey Ford or then-Judge Kavanaugh as part of its limited inquiries? If yes, please describe the directive and produce any relevant communications. If no, why did the FBI fail to interview Dr. Ford and then-Judge Kavanaugh?[4]
We ask that you answer these questions no later than August 31, 2021, and to the extent not already requested above, promptly produce all records and communications related to the tip line investigation, including but not limited to: the White House-DOJ MOU referenced in your letter; all communications regarding the establishment and parameters of the tip line; all documents related to the selection and parameters of the ten interviews conducted as part of the supplemental background investigations; and all relevant tips described in your letter that the FBI provided . . . to the Office of White House Counsel. In order to minimize the discovery burden of this request and advance our comprehension of the process, we ask that someone familiar with the Kavanaugh investigations provide a briefing to explain what took place and the existence and nature of documents responsive to our requests. We ask further that the Department of Justice identify someone tasked with overseeing and facilitating the responses to these requests, given the long delay we have already experienced.
Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
CC: Hon. Merrick Garland, Attorney General of the United States
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[clickpenguin_460]

You make me laugh a lot.

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/14/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation-documents]https://www.theguardian.c…nvestigation-documents[/link]

[h1]FBI director faces new scrutiny over investigation of Brett Kavanaugh[/h1] [b]Claim that FBI lacked authority to conduct further investigation into Kavanaugh may be inaccurate[/b]

The FBI director, Chris Wray, is facing new scrutiny of the bureaus handling of its 2018 background investigation of [link=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/brett-kavanaugh]Brett Kavanaugh[/link], including its claim that the FBI lacked the authority to conduct a further investigation into the then supreme court nominee.
 
At the heart of the new questions that Wray will face later this week, when he testifies before the Senate judiciary committee, is a 2010 Memorandum of Understanding that the [link=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/fbi]FBI[/link] has recently said constrained the agencys ability to conduct any further investigations of allegations of misconduct.

…

The MOU, which was released in court documents in 2019 as part of Freedom of Information Act litigation brought against the US government by Buzzfeed, also does not explicitly state that the White House had the power to set the process parameters on any investigation. The MOU does seem to suggest that the White House had the authority to limit the FBI to investigate particular issues and questions.
 
Wray is likely to face scrutiny on why information that was specific to the allegations of sexual misconduct was not fully explored, including evidence that was reportedly offered to investigators by an alleged witness named Max Stier, an attorney and former classmate of Ramirez, who reportedly notified senators that he had witnessed an event similar to the one recounted by Ramirez.

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[btomba_77]

Senate Republicans have apparently decided they’re not going to risk asking any actual questions to Ketanji Brown-Jackson.
 
They’re spending their time in the hearing relitigating just how unfairly Brett Kavanaugh was treated. 

[kaldridgewv2211]

Yup.  the BRett Kavanaugh grievance hearing.
 
Also the hypocrites are talking about the left’s dark $ behind KBJ.  What a laugh.

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/08/kavanaugh-threat-arrest-justice/]https://www.washingtonpos…threat-arrest-justice/[/link]

Man with weapon detained near Brett Kavanaughs home[/h1] [h2]The man allegedly told police he wanted to kill the Supreme Court justice, according to people familiar with the investigation[/h2]

A California man carrying at least one weapon near Brett M. Kavanaughs Maryland home has been taken into custody by police after telling officers he wanted to kill the Supreme Court justice, according to people familiar with the investigation.
 
The man, described to be in his mid-20s, was found to be carrying at least one weapon and burglary tools, these people said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. Police were apparently notified that the person might pose a threat to the justice, but it was not immediately clear who provided the initial tip, these people said. The man apparently did not make it on to Kavanaughs property in Montgomery County, but he was stopped on a nearby street, these people said.
 
Two people familiar with the investigation said the initial evidence indicates the man was angry about the [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/02/roe-v-wade-supreme-court-draft-politico/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2&itid=lk_inline_manual_3&itid=lk_inline_manual_8&itid=lk_inline_manual_5]leaked draft of an opinion by the Supreme Court [/link]signaling the court is preparing to overturn [i]Roe. v. Wade[/i], the 49-year-old decision that guaranteed the constitutional right to have an [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/abortion/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5]abortion[/link]. He was also angry over a recent spate of mass shootings, those people said.

[/QUOTE]
 

[btomba_77]

[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/01/21/brett-kavanaugh-doug-liman-sundance/] Takeaways from Doug Liman’s secret Brett Kavanaugh documentary at Sundance

[/link]
 
[b]Director Doug Liman announced his new documentary at the festival. Then new tips began pouring in.  [/b]

 

[b]The film centers on Ramirez, not Ford[/b]

Liman gives Ramirez the public platform she never got in front of the Senate. A long, emotional interview with the Boulder-based former Yale classmate of Kavanaughs forms the movies spine. Though the interview doesnt contain much that hasnt already been reported, its powerful to hear someone who doesnt enjoy being in the spotlight tell her own story with all the anguished starts and stops that come with trying to recall a nearly 40-year-old traumatic event.
 
…
shes positive Kavanaugh was her assailant.

The prominent memory is the laughter, she says in the documentary, echoing what Ford had said in her testimony. I have never forgotten it in 35 years.

 
……..
 
[b]The FBI failed to look into at least one credible accusation[/b]

If theres a smoking gun in Limans film, its a voice message left on the FBI tip line from Max Stier, the president and CEO of the Partnership for Public Service who attended Yale with Kavanagh and Ramirez.
 

In the previously unheard recording, Stier says classmates told him not just that Kavanaugh stuck his penis in Ramirezs face, but that afterward, Kavanaugh went to the bathroom to make himself erect before allegedly returning to assault her again, hoping to amuse an audience of mutual friends. In the film, Ramirez says shed suppressed the memory so deeply she couldnt recall this second incident, even when Farrow explicitly asked her about it.
 

Stiers message to the FBI also cites another incident involving a different woman, which he says he witnessed firsthand: A severely inebriated Kavanaugh, his dorm mate, pulling his pants down at a different party while a group of soccer players forced a drunk female freshman to hold his penis.

 
….
 
 
I do hope that this triggers action, said Herdy. I do hope this triggers additional investigation with real subpoena powers.

[kaldridgewv2211]

I want someone to find who paid off his mortgage, country club, and outstanding debt.